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181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DOGS Token Distribution is Arriving already with different Distribution Time. on: September 02, 2024, 11:16:31 AM
This is the price when I've dumped and I know that this is going to change over time but while it's still fresh, I'd shut up and take the money. So, congratulations to everyone that have made free money from dogs and from the telegram accounts that you have. There will be more this type of project because it seems successful, effortless but with actual real cash that has been made by the devs for everyone. I'd avoid also the arguments about #freedurov because it will eventually be fine with the influence and money he's got.

I have also earned some dollars from Dogs. Yes the best time to sell Dogs and make a profit is now. Dogs coin has a lot of Airdrop participants. There will be tremendous selling pressure because Dogs holders will definitely try to make a profit from the listing on the exchange. Yes I agree with you that there will be many similar projects in the future. So I think stop expecting significant upside on Dogs by holding them for a long time.
dogs is big project and around 50 million users so over 80% tokens in their hand but dogs listed on several major exchanges so they have enough liquidity,
Imagine that most of the holders or those that have received the dogs were all users of Telegram. The longer the telegram account is in existence, the more dogs. But we're all done with that part and most dogs now are in the exchanges.

first day of listing selling pressure was high so i did not sell my token, i sold token after 2 days of listing and i got high price 0.0015$. it's should not hold long time.
Good for you that you've sold at a higher price compared to the price now. The price has dumped because of the market is dumping too. I think that the sentiment is still going to continue for a week or two for dogs. I might be wrong on this but whoever is waiting for another sequence of buying, you decide it today or within the upcoming days. It's price currently...

182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - Sportsbet.io discussion thread on: September 02, 2024, 10:40:53 AM
Update for The International(13) 2024.

They already have the matches for the group stages and two days from now, it's about to start and there's so many games to bet on for day 1 with these 4 groups.





I have picked two bets already but for draw, so these matches on group stages are a best of 2 match only. Most of the games in here are likely to get draw based on what I've seen in the past tournaments but who knows, this is TI and it could be different this time. I am still contemplating about the other matches that I should bet on but for now, this is my first dibs.

183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: September 02, 2024, 10:01:38 AM
Anyway, 3 days to go and it seems none of team members are going to be replaced so everyone got their visa approved
There's only one afaik and it's 9Class on the side of Tundra, it's a bit unfortunate when they're starting to look better as a team, but at least they got Saksa as his replacement.


Yeah, there's one and that's 9class. It should be his first The International but because of the visa issue, he's got replaced by saksa who's also a former Tundra. For saksa, this is a blessing in disguise but of course this is bad for 9Class. Is it because 9class is a russian although he's got russian teammates but pure and ramzes have their international flights and tournaments already long time ago.



I am cheering for them because they're a consistent team and topson is a three-time TI champ hopeful.
184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Launchpool or launchpad, which is better? on: September 02, 2024, 01:48:12 AM
Man, we've got a lot of launchpools and launchpads with several exchanges and I know that you're specific on this and probably you're one of them that you're working for. I like Binance and they have given me significant rewards for what I have staked there with my BNB and when I tried the other exchanges, they've got their own native tokens or the casual ones that they support.

In my experience, I really like when I was able to make some pennies there and while we're in the bull, everyone can enjoy it while it's there. Not all of the time these rewards are going to be decent whether it is with Binance or with the exchange that you're supporting. As long as you're making some good returns there or pennies to be honest, you're still at gain as long as you're above your losses already.
185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bank teller stole $28,000 from customers to feed her gambling addiction on: September 01, 2024, 11:54:57 PM
Anyway... regardless of how this happened, the reason for it happening is easy: Gambling addiction.

People steal other people's objects, rob their own family, sell cars and houses to have money to gamble, so why wouldn't someone with "easy access" to other people's money do the same to support their addiction!?

Surely the elderly were reimbursed by the bank, and this employee should be duly punished, but he probably doesn't have the money to pay compensation or a fine.
Yeah, someone who has accessed to someone's fund and they've seen the disadvantage of these elderly that they might be forgetful about their funds and resources has been taken advantaged by the teller. It's for sure that the bank have done a legal action together with the victims so that this teller will learn the lesson the baddest way and shouldn't take people's hard earned money easily.

The bank's policy into hiring recruitment for sure have also became stricter and they'll read and learn the background of their future employees if they have been involved with gambling or any related kind of activities so that they're not only protecting their company's reputation but also the welfare of their customers as well as their funds. Because it's about the customers that they're working with and the customer satisfaction is what gives them the kind of living not only for the company but also to its employees.
186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Looking to maximize earnings from your DOGS holdings? on: September 01, 2024, 11:21:14 PM
So, how can we, as holders, make the most of this opportunity now that it’s shaping up to be even bigger than anticipated?
None other than trading. Or if you've got some other airdrops and you've earned well there, convert it into dogs so that's how you make the most of it if you're a believer that this coin will be moving a lot in the upcoming cycle.

A quick survey on Twitter shows that most holders are weighing their options, looking for exchanges with the best giveaway offers.
Do you mean about staking it on an exchange that might give 1%-5% of APY? that's not worth of the risk to be honest. Most of the people that are holding little of dogs won't really get the most by doing that and they even don't hold their dogs there or any other coins if that's the option that they have on their minds.

So, where do you think the majority will flock to? Your insights could be invaluable, especially for newbies navigating this landscape!
I am not sure but they'll just probably put it on their wallet while looking for some other airdrops or the next dogs in their mind to participate. There's really no need to be thoughtful about such.
187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Finding Value ( sports betting) on: September 01, 2024, 10:48:14 PM
I read an article that says in order to win in sports betting in the long run, we need to find value before making a bet. This means we don't need to bet on all the games available because we can't find value in all of them. Since it requires careful analysis based on the information available, it's impossible to analyze every game available for betting. Therefore, it's important to limit the number of bets and make sure that all the bets we make are well-studied so we can come out ahead in the long run.

If you believe in this, from your personal perspective, how do you find value?
With most of my bets, I've got only a few of them that I haven't found any value. Like it was a random thought and just went straight away for those matches. I'm not the type of gambler that bets on something that I don't know but you know that we've got all of our crazy times, so when I did sometimes when that bet wins, that's giving more joy than the ones that I've found value and I know most of with those games.

I am limiting my bet and trying to bet on good odds and that's the type of gambler I am even though I know that the underdogs have lesser chances of winning but it's different with esports. Sometimes, the underdogs can really turn the table and they'd give some good wins and that's why for me it's worth to go extra mile of odds when it's with the underdogs. I don't bet on everything that I know, even if I want to, I stop myself and still limits for some bets each day.
188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - Sportsbet.io discussion thread on: September 01, 2024, 10:18:50 PM
Oh my, I've lost this bet. I should have followed my heart to bet on Avulus as the champ of this tournament with a good odds. The first 2 maps were won by 1win but then 3rd and 4th map was taken by Avulus up to fifth map, that was heck of a sweep from them, a reverse sweep indeed.

Reminder: 4 days to go and the TI2024 starts, the prize pool isn't interesting as it's quite low until now. So, this is expected that each year of TI, prize pool will become lesser as the game is getting older and there are lesser support from the community now.
Thanks for the headups on the Dota2 scene @passwordnow because as we all know I am not fluent in that game, yet atleast. Wink
That's okay man, we've got a lot of dota 2 gamers and bettors here and that's why everyone of them is updated in anyway.

Heard some terms about it on my sportschat that I am on and catching up on the game this way.
That happens but very rare, I remember that with former Team Liquid roster with insania, they've picked a wrong hero that was in the meta of being a carry but they played it as a support role in a TI game, yes.

So what are the prize amounts and why are they so low compared to last year?
There's lesser support from the community I guess and gamers don't buy the compendium that they've made for this year. I think that the trend as well is going down for dota 2. Currently, the prize pool becomes $2.350M. I am waiting for the update of the group stages and will post that soon when it's available already.
189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: September 01, 2024, 09:56:43 PM
Lucky are those players and teams that have made a lot of money from the past TIs, their shares for each of them now has become the actual prize pool for the entire The International. They've got the luxury to retire or continue but now, even I guess a team that has won the TI will have no luxury to retire but to keep on competing and wishing to participate the bigger prize pool tournaments.

For real men, even the recent Riyadh Master has a lower prize pool on Dota2 since they allocate more prize to different e-sports which they support compared before that Dota2 alone has an insane prize pool equivalent to the total prize pool on the recent Riyadh Master.

Also battle pass sales is not that popular probably due to the saturated item and skins available in the market while there’s a lot of new games that shares already to the popularity of Dota2. Personally, I don’t play anymore due to the more complex on the gameplay.

It’s not a game to relax anymore compared before. I miss the old Dota version.
Dude, you've said a real talk in the latter and everything you've said are true. It's different today that you have to win every game and not just to have fun anymore, let's say that it has become competitive but that competition for every individual has gained toxicity and it's hard to contain. When you're a regular working man and your love for this game was there before after work, you gotta sit back and relax as you play. But not today anymore.

Battlepass is no longer a thing or it might be different if this is what they have focused on prior to the TI 2024 but it's not. The teams are going to most tournaments now with good prize pools because they can no longer wait for how much the prize pool of TI because it's most expectedly that it's not going to be a lot anymore. Good thing that there's the Riyadh Masters that has a larger prize pool not just for Dota 2 but for other esports too. The kingdom of Saudi Arabia really is investing into esports and they'll be known for this.
190  Economy / Economics / Re: No point to own real estate now or buying or dealing before reset system on: September 01, 2024, 09:40:41 PM
The great reset is coming all property and land will be tokenized.
Didn't we have a reset already during the covid19 pandemic and the war between Russia and Ukraine? And that's such a crazy order to see that land assets will be tokenized. That won't be land anymore if it's in the form of token and everyone is traditional with lands because you own the thing if you have the title of it but if you're going to own a token then it won't be preferred by the vast majority who likes to own a piece of land from any state that they can afford to. I doubt it will become a thing because I've seen projects like this before but it didn't really materialized as we have different point of view about it and it's not good at all.

You can't own the assets like house you will have tokens.
Unless you're living in a communist country then you might be forced to own tokens and every asset you have will be taken away from you by the government.
191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Filipinos Playing crypto games for a living - Developer even says it is gambling on: September 01, 2024, 09:10:39 PM
Finally, the TGE for Hamster Kombat has come. I don't have it but I am happy for my friends that have been tapping for so long that this has now been supported in the exchanges that they can trade the token that will be generated. Some exchanges have already gave the date of listing it and it is in less than a month now. Hope for it folks that there won't be any reason for them anymore to delay it.
TGE what is that exactly? Exchange listing if it is then which one will it be available for trading once it is released to all those users?
On the very first day expect a massive dump of the coin on to that exchange then.
Yes, it's the exchange listing as well. TGE means token genetion event. I am also guessing that a massive dump is about to come there. But it won't be surprising if some delay might possible happen again as it did before.

Also was wondering about another thread I had just noticed about:
PH Senator pushes a Ban to POGOs and All Sort of Online Gambling...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5501566.0

Will this affect the P2E ecosystem because I believe the Philippines will find a way to say this is gambling and to have it banned under this law they look to put in place.
P2E is different from gambling so I don't think that there's any relation to that. But who knows soon if some connection will be done by the rulers, officials or senators for something to push like that.

We can all agree that any government, no matter which corner of the world you are in, will try and find a way to tax or outright ban if it's citizens are making an income that is not in their control.
This is so true, no can skip that taxation from whatever we're all earning from.
192  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Common Mistakes people make in Trading on: August 31, 2024, 01:39:29 PM
The problem is, not all traders are patient enough to wait for the right set-up to trade as majority of newbies in trading are greedy and would want to earn get-rich-quick profits. That's probably the reason why majority at loss while only those early traders have been succeeding and are making sustainable profits when trading. Trading is not chasing profits at all cost, but it's certainly trading when there is a good opportunity to.
Why majority are losing in trading is because they are too greedy. You're right that many of them wants to get rich so quick in trading and they are testing strategies that doesn't go along with what suits them. And they think that trading is an easy financial game but their expectations are broken when they have face the real thing in the market. This is why do not expect that you'd always be good in everything that you're testing out. The good traders out there really make money but it doesn't mean that they have no mistakes that they commit.

What we can guarantee is that there is no 100% accuracy for trading. Losses are there even the best of the best gets some filthy moments and trades that are losing them. The mistake is by becoming too confident whenever someone is able to make a trade or two but this market relies on so many things and not just all about the charts. Sometimes it becomes connected to the world events, the actual market motion and more fundamentals. An ugly news can make someone happily trade with their positions and that's why from the mistakes that we commit, we should learn from it or better not trade at all when you can't go along with the tough market.
193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: $DOGS on MEXC on: August 31, 2024, 12:41:25 PM
There is a 31% gain for dogs today. The current price is $0.0016 and those that have held their dogs and didn't sell during the trades, they're now in profit as well because majority of them came from airdrops. I agree with you that it's not yet a week and those that wants to take a ride with it can still accumulate some. I want to do that and take some quick profit but still hesitating to do that since I don't have much funds for it as of the moment.



TON will be a factor to consider, I think when the dust settles with it and Durov himself, there will be a clearer path to take in terms of whether to go into TON tokens Grin Good luck to you and thanks for participating!
That is for sure.
We will have to wait for that and with the situation right now so before I invest back to dogs, I should consider looking at TON first. If it drops down to $1 prior to Durov's arrest then I might buy a bunch of it. But it seems that it's a wishful thinking and it's quite too low but we don't know how the market will react because of its volatility. I'm sure that many of us here are also trying to look for sometime to get into dogs as well.
194  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: El Salvador is still the number one country for 'Bitcoin' search on Google on: August 31, 2024, 11:57:39 AM
With the acceptance of Bitcoin as their legal tender, no doubt why it is the top result when someone searches for a "bitcoin country". To be honest, when they didn't accepted it yet as a legal tender there are other countries that were considered one before. Like Malta, Japan, other Asian countries too. But because of this action that El Salvador did, they were the first in the history that has become an actual country that has adopted it.

Not to mention the other countries that became first crypto friendly countries. Central African Republic supposed to be the next one but they didn't continue it from happening. But soon, we will see some other countries that might also declare Bitcoin as their legal tender. It is only a matter of time but we should be happy that the number of countries that recognizes Bitcoin is increasing. Maybe sometime in the next months, there will be countries like UAE that will be more friendly to crypto because of the type of government and rules that they are setting.
195  Other / Off-topic / Re: The real sentiment of gambling. on: August 31, 2024, 11:21:06 AM
I couldn't agree more with those gamblers saying that they gamble just for fun because the truth is that people gamble in the hope of multiplying their money. But from what we have witnessed and seeing the sentiment of the majority, we definitely see that they feel disappointed when losing. Which is not really the behavior of gamblers who just think about entertaining themselves. A real gambler never seeks winning but pleasure and fun.
This really is a long argument from those actual gamblers that are in there for the money. Regardless of what others are telling about the reason they gamble, they won't be stopped for whatever reason they are up to. So, someone who's gambling for money/profit cannot be stopped from doing it because I've been there before and thought that it's an easy way to make money from gambling. At first it was but in the long run, my perspective has changed and it's really all about having fun first and if there's profit, much better.

Hearing the news that some people committed suicide and crimes can also prove that my statement is right. Maybe I'm wrong, but what I've seen is enough to say that gamblers are here for money, not for fun. 

I also wanted to hear opinions from others. 
I am for fun, I've got a bunch of losses for this week from my bets and that's fine. There really are days that I am not as good as the past week that I am or the past month that I've got huge wins. But this time, I just enjoy my bets so that I won't be stressed if there are bets that I need to chase my losses. So be it, I gamble for whichever purpose that it is for me but mostly for fun and if I am up with profit, that's just a bonus. Sometimes we need to trick our brains and reason out to the best that we can not to stress out the negative results that we're having.
196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: August 31, 2024, 10:45:46 AM
Even if the crowdfund still ongoing even after TI start, I still doubt that we are getting close to last year.
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They're the developers of this game and they need to make more attraction if they don't want to see next year Riyadh master to be the alternative of TI and become the most sought yearly tournament of everybody.

Valve gonna milk whatever they can milk so yeah I guess most people would expect Riyadh to be the event of the year due to its prizepool. On another note, most players would be force to stay and keep playing dota2 competitively even after they win T1 because of this

Imagine if the prizepool stays above $40m. Some winners might just retired right after winning that huge amount of money
Lucky are those players and teams that have made a lot of money from the past TIs, their shares for each of them now has become the actual prize pool for the entire The International. They've got the luxury to retire or continue but now, even I guess a team that has won the TI will have no luxury to retire but to keep on competing and wishing to participate the bigger prize pool tournaments.

We don't also need more heroes, we've got a bunch of it but more competition that shall attract more players to get onto the game and become pros.

People are moving away from this game for sure because of the gatekeeping, even LOL has its own mobile version while dota2 still exclusively only can be played through pc. Imagine 5-10 years from now, number of people playing this game would drop drastically
That is for sure, AFAIK there's now another game that Valve is testing so I guess they're pushing players to go there while it's on an invite-test phase.
197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - Sportsbet.io discussion thread on: August 31, 2024, 09:57:48 AM

Oh my, I've lost this bet. I should have followed my heart to bet on Avulus as the champ of this tournament with a good odds. The first 2 maps were won by 1win but then 3rd and 4th map was taken by Avulus up to fifth map, that was heck of a sweep from them, a reverse sweep indeed.

Reminder: 4 days to go and the TI2024 starts, the prize pool isn't interesting as it's quite low until now. So, this is expected that each year of TI, prize pool will become lesser as the game is getting older and there are lesser support from the community now.

198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: August 30, 2024, 08:21:05 PM
Even if the crowdfund still ongoing even after TI start, I still doubt that we are getting close to last year.
Valve don't want to throw money from their savings but are getting the call from the players. I hope that this year's prize pool will give them a sign that somewhere else, a tournament is becoming better with the prize pool and making the game more competitive. They're the developers of this game and they need to make more attraction if they don't want to see next year Riyadh master to be the alternative of TI and become the most sought yearly tournament of everybody.

Well I guess the game is dying, everyone gets older then move to another game or probably just casually play whenever we have time for some fun Smiley
Hate to admit that it's closely there but we are seeing the signs and you know what? Gaben had banned teams to have sponsors on their banners, team names and even players name's. They are pushing away the money that's injecting these teams and players to remain competitive and stay with the game that we all like.

The real OGs are getting older and the items that they're releasing like the BP or compendium aren't really interesting at all. We don't also need more heroes, we've got a bunch of it but more competition that shall attract more players to get onto the game and become pros. But what they're doing is denying all of these sponsorships for this upcoming TI. And to give that reminder, we're just 4-5 days away from it.

199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have some people used casinos to hide the origin of funds? on: August 30, 2024, 07:39:14 PM
When someone does this, they'll for sure ready to take on a verification because casinos are also smart if they're being used just as a way of their users to pass or mix their funds through them. That's why there are strict rules like wagers first before withdrawals.

Do telegram casinos or most of them also ask for Kyc?
I have seen some of them operated and made a thread in the forum but not all of them stayed for so long. I think that most of them have started as noKYC but then, it won't be surprising if some of them that have stayed will start asking for kyc soon.

And why do some casinos operate on telegram?
Just a trend and they think that it will be popular and liked by the community.
200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you often using the gambling site you promote to gamble? on: August 30, 2024, 06:56:54 PM
Yes, I'm betting my esports bets and other kinds of bets on stake. I have no issues about it and maybe I am one of the many fortunate gamblers of not having any issues with withdrawals or my balances there. We have different experiences with the casinos that we're gambling with. We have to understand if the others have a genuine reason why they have those problems and complaints to the casino that they're gambling with. But we can also understand the frustration of a gambler of why they are making up issues and they have no one to blame with their losses for being unlucky.
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