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681  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A hero or a fool? on: December 11, 2023, 11:31:13 AM
Never heard of this story before but if this exists then that guy did himself a favor by actually requesting the casino to self-exclude him. Well, if there are features like this that we can see online then it's possible to ask and request this on physical casinos. I don't know how can that guy be a hero if he's just into himself but can be said that he's a hero on his own by doing such things.

Anyway, let's just have it this way anything that you do for yourself to help you get out of addiction is a good step. Whether it's something crazy like this or even crazier, as long as you're trying hard and helping yourself out then that's the best thing that you're doing because you are initiating things. As they say, if it works then it's not stupid at all, right?

What can be other crazy ways of stopping oneself from addiction? I'm thinking of a lot of gamblers who are dealing with addiction and doing odd but effective ways to help themselves. It is a tough battle to fight your own addiction because there's no one there that's going to do it for you and no other people but you alone can do it.
682  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: December 11, 2023, 10:34:32 AM
11 hours from now, we're about to see the start of the ESL Kuala Lumpur 2023. Where are you guys? Where are the Dota 2 folks here? Let's start some discussion as I cannot cover most of the updates as I only see a few and most likely none of them regarding players and updates if someone's going to play for stand in or not.

RUMOR: Tundra Esports might move to NA and will take to their wings the roster of the released TSM players which is now named, Team Undying. While I don't see yet the name replaced for Team Undying into Tundra Esports so, this is still a rumor. What do you think of it? The last team I've known Tundra is remaining only with Topson and if the entire Team Undying going to be taken over by Tundra then it's all out for Topson.

After the 2-peat achievement of Topson, despite one of the best mid laners out there and proven to be a team player. He's like a stray dog in the proscene now. It's entirely different with his former gang with the roster that he's got with OG before. Speaking of him, what team do you think still need a strong mid as him?

I think that Topson will be very difficult to join any team, I sometimes even think that with him no team will reach high places.
I guess he's just done with his prime. He went from SEA back to EU and then still didn't manage to end with good places. Dota isn't just all about individual skills but it's a team game. Compared with his relationship and team plays with the real og, OG. It can no longer be compared with the power of friendship and chemistry for which we are seeing this with current Team Spirit.

Azure Ray defeated Secret and started well, now they already have 3 points. Considering that they could have been suspended, their performance is much more interesting to watch. It’s a pity that I didn’t have time to watch this match, it took place early in the morning in my country (

BB played to a draw with GG and Wawitas Saga. And thaey need to start winning, because a draw only gives 1 point, that’s not enough.

Tomorrow for me there will be the most interesting match AZ - BB, BB will also play with SECRET, I hope this will not be another draw) I would like to see amazing games.
I've watched the game of Azure Ray and Blacklist Rivalry, both ended up today with a 3-1 and that's a good start for both teams. Whilst for Wawitas Sagazes, they're like a bonus round for the first day.

RUMOR: Tundra Esports might move to NA and will take to their wings the roster of the released TSM players which is now named, Team Undying.
Alright, this rumor tend to be true and Team Undying's team name now changed to Tundra Esports. This is a nice move for Tundra so that they'll still have their organization in the meta, former TSM/Undying players ain't that bad at all. Knowing that there's not that much competition in the NA scene, so this is a smart choice for them.

And guys, guess who's back?
News: Chinese Dota 2 legend Ame returns to pro play with Xtreme Gaming

Who is excited to see Ame in the pro scene again? I know that most of the fans here including me wanted him to see reunite with his former gang in LGD. Currently, Xtreme Gaming is just composed of two player, him and DY. For sure that there are arrangements already and we'll need to wait further about their announcement on who are the other three players that will be added to the roster.
683  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who should quit, and why? on: December 11, 2023, 09:48:00 AM
In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
That's a tricky situation. There can be justification that both of them are responsible gamblers and parents and they are not neglecting their duties to their kids. But at the same time, if you're going to realize that they're in a bad situation if it's going to affect their parenthood and the kids will see that they're gamblers, I think that's the time that they need to adjust. But are they going to continue while the kids won't ask questions related to gambling because they can see that their parents are gambling? I don't know, I am not yet in that situation so for me only time can tell how they're going to adjust to the situation.

Being a parent with a lot of obligations needs to weigh a lot of things and people might say that they're not earning with gambling. Let's get real guys there are people who truly see gambling as a source of income and they are united on it because they both know the ins and outs of it. They won't get married not knowing that they're gambling or probably they even met because of a casino or both of them is their hobby. Proper communication should be done on this part, maybe a give and take for both of them. Today, the guy can gamble and tomorrow it's the wife. Something like that and I believe that things like this can be sort with any possible good solution.
684  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bankroll! on: December 11, 2023, 09:22:32 AM
I know there are bettors here who dream of investing in sports betting and hoping to consistently make money from it.
Investing and betting are two different things, it's not the same, I think that the closest call and in general will be investing in the bankroll of the casino for which you have asked the following questions.

So, I'd like to ask the following questions:

1. How much bankroll can you afford to start with?
For now, I don't have any affordability to do that. With the recent research that I've seen or let's just say quick reading from the experience of the actual bankroll investors, it's not worth it. But if you have spare money to invest there, that's much better with movement than to be stagnant and have no gains at all.

Oh, going to the point where I'll be starting to invest with the bankroll. I won't start with a small one because gains with that starting capital is so much little so mostly if I can afford more than a thousand buck.

2. With your bankroll, how much expected profit do you anticipate in a year?
This varies and depending on the revenue of the casino but with that amount, I expect no less than 3%-5%. This is just a guess percentage and more likely close to reality.

3. Will you be content with your profit? If not, have you considered increasing your bankroll, even if you cannot afford it?
Yes, if that's just a spare money of mine. As I've said, that's so much better than to gain nothing by being stagnant or deposited in a bank.
685  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Math and Gambling on: December 10, 2023, 10:39:31 PM
In cases like this, there are many gamblers who don't understand what gambling really means and only have reckless capital and a strong ambition to be able to win even though the way they play is wrong, namely excessive and uncontrolled.
IMO, they know what gambling really is and they understand it. What they don't understand is their approach towards it and they're having a hard time controlling it and they think it's just all a game of numbers and money and losses can easily be retrieved when they gamble again, heck no. That's what they don't want to accept although they understand what's actually happening.

And it's true, if things like the above continue to be done without stopping then he will experience bad effects on gambling.
There's the bad effects as usual and one is being addicted and going on with what OP is thinking that schools are useless. Well, everyone just go with the numbers and math and see if self learning will be enough when someone grows up. There's the fundamentals and normal process of what one has to learn.
686  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Aspect of Sports Betting or Casino Gambling Posed a Challenge for You? on: December 10, 2023, 08:59:53 PM
When there is something that I don't know, the internet is accessible, and can visit any website to know what are those challenges that I've met. But there's none that I need to.

Reading comments on the internet, and especially on this forum, took me to the conclusion I couldn't easily win on long run, although there were also many posts on this forum from gamblers who advised sports betting as a consistent method of gambling that could guarantee profitability along the time, unlike traditional casino's games. So, I guess trial and error was also necessary on the learnship process, because if I only took third party opinions into consideration, I would be really in doubt about who was right and wrong. I had to try by myself.
Me either. That's why even before the need to search them through the web. When I have also read the comments of the other members here, that's making me understand something too quick. But any resource is valid to determine the answer that you're looking for. A lot of information can easily be accessed and used as long as they're on the free public and that's why it's like a library of gambling terms and rules with a few keywords and they'll appear as results.
687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey on: December 10, 2023, 07:11:37 PM
Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Yup.

There's always a resolution to matters like this. It's only about how the problem gambler will handle himself and resist gambling as much as he can. If there are friends and relatives that are willing to help him completely avoid gambling, then it's on him that they're counting to help himself as well.

Problem gamblers have different approaches and whatever works for them and gradually removes the problematic thing they've got with gambling. They need to be consistent on it and focus until the results are visible and they're finally seeing it on their own that it's actually working.
688  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling? on: December 10, 2023, 05:40:02 PM
If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?
None, nothing. That's what I'll say because it is none of my business and scope to give them some warning if I'm just a staff. I'll just do whatever is tasked to me like assisting them with their bets or whatsoever but to give them a reminder, I'll only give them some reminder if they're doing things against the casino's policy and premises.

That's none of our business anymore but it's nice to have that someone to give some reminder to these folks. But let alone decide whether to push and continue or just walk away with whatever amount they have already. Because if not, you might even be blamed if they get bad luck. You don't know what's on the mind of these people when they gamble especially if they've been winning a lot already.

A few signs or talks and being a staff, you might get scolded for interfering with their affairs by just simply talking to them. You only talk when they talk to you, you only answer when they ask you a thing or two.
689  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: December 10, 2023, 04:46:25 PM
11 hours from now, we're about to see the start of the ESL Kuala Lumpur 2023. Where are you guys? Where are the Dota 2 folks here? Let's start some discussion as I cannot cover most of the updates as I only see a few and most likely none of them regarding players and updates if someone's going to play for stand in or not.

RUMOR: Tundra Esports might move to NA and will take to their wings the roster of the released TSM players which is now named, Team Undying. While I don't see yet the name replaced for Team Undying into Tundra Esports so, this is still a rumor. What do you think of it? The last team I've known Tundra is remaining only with Topson and if the entire Team Undying going to be taken over by Tundra then it's all out for Topson.

After the 2-peat achievement of Topson, despite one of the best mid laners out there and proven to be a team player. He's like a stray dog in the proscene now. It's entirely different with his former gang with the roster that he's got with OG before. Speaking of him, what team do you think still need a strong mid as him?
690  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 10, 2023, 04:23:19 PM
Someone introducing us to gambling may be unintentional
It all starts with some stories and that's the reason why a gambler is happily sharing his experiences due that there's someone who wants to listen with our wins and losses.

But there are still many cases where they are taking advantage of us. They introduce us to gambling so that they can get referral bonuses. This is deplorable.
You will spot on the person that's taking advantage of you. If you're a new gambler and someone just wants to sign you up under his referral link, this is one of the many possible reasons why he's introducing you to gambling and that's what I can think of but for sure that there are other many way of taking advantage. And if you think that you're forced to do it, just don't do it. But as a newbie and being friendly to that person who's introducing you, I guess that you'll just accept and let it happen.

But in the end, the fault is still ours. Our money and the right to decide still belong to us. If we are addicted, it is because we cannot control ourselves. What we need to do now is to find a way to escape addiction. Asking the closest person to help us is a perfect way because people with an addiction will not be able to escape their gambling addiction on their own.
I do not regret that I am into gambling and someone introduced me to it. But yes, it's all our decision and fault. If the results don't do us any good then there is no need to blame that person that introduced us but only us. Stop pinpointing fingers to others if it's about our personal lives and decisions.
691  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 10, 2023, 03:29:27 PM
Big congrats to Lakers for becoming NBA in season champs but also big congrats for LeBron and his MVP win award who is well deserved in my opinion even if AD really played great during this tournament. Now , the job is done , they can actually focus on NBA games and maybe it's time to deliver a winning streak.  Cool
Congrats to the Lakers, that was a heck of a journey for them to become this in season tournament's champ. I still give credit to the Pacers for reaching this far. I think that this is the first time again for me to seen them reach this quite far. Honestly, they've got a good run and Lebron being the MVP on this in season is still showing on how this "old" man can do.

Lebron is always Lebron, age is just a number for him and a whopping $500k for his pay check. Wow! Is this also a hint that the rumored additional team could be the Las Vegas? Hmmm, I've just heard of the rumor about that and instead of Seattle Sonics, it's going to be Las Vegas - what?

Another player that's good on this game is Austin Reaves. The kid after coming from the bench was on fire. It's like that he doesn't want to go back to the bench so he did all his best. Well, if most of the bench players are going to be like him, they won't get that much rest. LOL.
692  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap on: December 09, 2023, 10:43:15 PM
What to believe? Beginner's luck or the first game win trap? Let's just all enjoy gambling and let the newbies enjoy their bets whether they win or lose. I agree with the last part of what OP said about gambling only what you afford to lose. It all ends up with that story when someone wants to gamble but only with that amount that he's very fine to lose.

Let the new gamblers experience their fate with their first bets. Win or lose, let them feel the essence of feeling how it's like. Because they will be the one to determine what it is actually, if it's beginner's luck or the first game win trap. But regardless of that, we're all going to have some good moments and many losing moments so, share the joy and don't skip the fun but with proper management and control so that you won't lose a lot.  Tongue
693  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Looking forward to invest on: December 09, 2023, 10:04:12 PM
Go to these links that will help you how to start buying Bitcoin guides:


You don't know what coin to start? And that's why Bitcoin is the best coin for you to start buying, there's no need for you to get on that much with most altcoins when you're still beginning although no one stops you from doing that.
694  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: December 09, 2023, 11:25:36 AM
with some statements from Yatoro that the Aegis in the TI is a scam because they're just allowed to keep it for a night and then will be taken away from them the next day.

So basically Valve reused all those aegis every year huh, kinda lame. I thought the winner would be able to keep them but honestly it just doesnt really make sense to keep them either because most team or organization got disbanded in a year or two after they got The Aegis.
Probably, I don't know about OG's story about the Aegis but it could be the same or they're able to keep it. But as we are all expecting, it's a trophy that the champions should keep forever, right? It's a plaque of their success for being the best team for the entire year. Yes, there goes the teams that disbanded after taking the aegis but Team Spirit is still intact but with just 1 changed player.

I think the matter of fact here is the authenticity that it came from Yatoro who's now a 2 time TI champion. It's just sad that the moment that should be theirs with the aegis was taken away, anyway they can just make their own plaques and trophies and display it to their salas or rooms. But I've seen collapse has a better trophy with that brand new car or it was just a photo op.
695  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would it be enough to buy 100 dollars worth of Bitcoin every month? on: December 09, 2023, 09:17:49 AM
I'm preparing for the college entrance exam to go to college, so I can't make money from working. I get about $100 of allowance from my father every month. I use all of them to buy bitcoin because I can use father's credit card for expenses such as food, clothes. I can buy Bitcoin on a satoshi basis every month, but when I see people buying Bitcoin basis on the internet, I feel like I'm too behind myself. Maybe they have a much higher income than me because they have a job.
Other race is not your race, so make your own race-worthy and focused, and don't look at how much they accumulate. If you think that you're behind them, how about those people who are still in doubt about investing in Bitcoin and are not even aware of it? There's more with those people to discover while you, you understand a lot of things already about bitcoin and that's what makes you want to invest.

I think I can only invest $100 a month for the next year or two, would that be enough? I am worried about missing big bull market with halving and etf approval.
It doesn't matter, just do it and when you're able to buy as much as you can after your graduation or when you already have a job. Bull runs are going to be in a cycle and it's not just going to appear within the next few years. So, think of that moment that when you're not yet able to buy in bulk but soon you'll be able to. Just now, purchase what you can purchase and be well with it. There's no quick hocus pokus on buying Bitcoin as a starter and being a student, everything is understandable with your situation and at least, you're trying.
696  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: December 08, 2023, 11:57:11 PM
Yeah, I remember that about Korben and still he insists about that disqualification because of the three players replacement for the roster. I don't know why he's still into it when the fact that Team Spirit was said to be taking a rest for this year and won't participate to this big tournament before this year ends.

I didn't know that there's still some point system because I thought that the entire pointing system(DPC) is going to be changed. Yes, I know that these points aren't with the DPC but with this EPT points, let's see on how teams are going to take it and for sure that there's gonna be another basis for this one.

What people are waiting for now is the Riyadh Masters that's said and rumored to have that $45M prize pool and every team is going to be crazy about it and who knows if Team Spirit is going to cash out and participate that tournament again.  Tongue
But Korben is always in my news feed, although he should calm down and relax during the upcoming New Year holidays.
Then just ignore him if you're bothered by him, hehe.  Tongue

$45 million in prize money, such a sum is mind blowing! If this is confirmed, I will fall off my chair) With such prize money from Riyadh Masters, everyone’s favorite TI will fade into the background. Money changes the location of tournaments and it seems that no one will compete with the Arab sheikhs in conquering the e-sports market. From such a large sum, several more professional teams should appear, because the stakes are very high.
Valve should give themselves a break if this is going to be another real prize pool. Because instead of the players craving to go to the TI, they're now going to focus more with the Riyadh Masters because the huge prize pool is in there and with some statements from Yatoro that the Aegis in the TI is a scam because they're just allowed to keep it for a night and then will be taken away from them the next day.

Based on the experience, the Aegis was only with Team Spirit for one night before Valve took it back, which he described as a "scam".
697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Trend or long term projects? on: December 08, 2023, 11:42:14 PM
depends on the degree of risk and excitement. There are traders who buy only trending meme tokens and try to make capital on them, it seems to me that Shiba brought many such traders to the market and gave rise to this trend.
Shiba did really made a lot of people grow their capital and that's why it's like a domino effect that even if it's no longer that much in the trend these days. The impact that it has made to many lives are being kept even until now, there are still a lot of people hoping that shiba will still be the one remaining at the top of these meme coin pumps.

I was interested in this in 2017-18 when there were a lot of hype projects and i could make money on them without much effort, after that the excitement went away and now I prefer to buy something for a long time.
That's true, those were like the times when every project on the market becomes successful and you can make money with almost everything you invest in. But not until 2018, the bear market existed and that has made everyone lose their hope on it and maybe this time, the entire market is going to be alive again just as what we're seeing it pump again.
698  Economy / Economics / Re: COVID is dead, "long live the new COVID". World economy get ready? on: December 08, 2023, 11:07:15 PM
-snip-
There are other concerns that should be done especially in poor countries where diseases are rampant like cholera, and other epidemic that's unlikely to stop.
All parties must work together, but can some parties be trusted?
Covid which was originally a Pandemic is now transitioning into an Epidemic and this virus will still exist.

Some other epidemics such as Cholera must also be watched out for its spread, it could be an epidemic that cannot be stopped.
But when everyone has got the vaccine, it's the first protection.
That's true, COVID-19 is going to live with us forever but just not as strong as it was before. And just like those diseases that are in epidemics in some parts of the world, they're fatal as well but the WHO seems to disregard those and don't focus monitoring on them. But sadly, those that affected by those diseases and people who are living with them seem to be immune to what's with them.

And like what we're living right now together with covid-19 virus. These viruses will just flow in the air, the airborne diseases and waiting to contain another host. These days are unhealthy. We're just done with the other and there goes the others that will live with us forever. Scaring but we need to deal with the reality and we need to strengthen not just our body, minds, souls but also our pockets.
699  Economy / Economics / Re: Idea and money are very important to investment. on: December 08, 2023, 10:36:04 PM
But for rich investors, obviously they have all the edge on that matter.
They can fail with their investments as many times as they can until one of them becomes successful. That's how it usually goes when it's about the resources for being rich. They're not afraid to fail because they've got a lot of back up and they can invest with every investment they think suits their needs. That's an ideal thing for the rich people because they don't have to be problematic with money whether the investment makes or breaks.

The only problem is if they have gained the best ideas and concepts that will make any investment works.
Yes, but still they have all the advantage because they have it all for the money that they can release to any investment of their choice. Like the shark tank people, they're all investors and business people. They know how it goes to invest into a business that can make them money and they're not afraid at all to lose them all but they also know that it can be successful based on the factors that they can see from them.
700  Economy / Economics / Re: What class of an investor are you? on: December 08, 2023, 09:58:38 PM
I guess that many of us here became the Ponzi investor before we even knew that this scheme was a scam. And then from there, we started to become the research type of investor to make sure that mistake won't happen again. We don't wanna be a victim of the same scams that we've encountered before.

Beginner need more education to choose which one class of an investor in the future, but many kinds of ponzi investment make new investor interested to invest there and they less knowledge how bad with ponzi investment class.
And that's why they need to know more about the classic investments and the classic scams that are into existence. Because if they don't do, they'll fall for the same scam schemes again and again. But to remember, one time of being scammed is a lesson but second and more is being stupid and ignorant.
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