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701  Economy / Services / Re: Casual Crypto Gamblers Needed! on: December 12, 2023, 11:34:04 AM
@OP.
The concern of everyone is valid why we need to contact you through Telegram. Well, for me, there is no problem at all to contact you through that but much better to disclose all the links or whatsoever that's needed to go onto the work that you're offering.

And the suggestion of oshosondy is also a better way to get those reviews that you need of what you're working with. Also, kindly indicate if this is going to be a paid gig or not because if it's not, you'll probably get few to no interested people in giving feed back to that casino that you're working with.
702  Economy / Gambling / Re: QuitGamble.com - Free Help for Problem Gamblers on: December 11, 2023, 05:47:01 PM
for  sure that there will be other groups that may cooperate and coordinate to your team but Casino houses? I'm afraid that they will ever have any  interest in doing such because Addiction is their target, addiction is their weapon,
Maybe not all of them are interested and there could be a handful of them that want to give back to their customers by having such a theme. But it's true that not all of the casinos are going to cooperate with a service and work that will make people stop doing business with their casinos. They want people to engage on them because the more, the better and that means caching caching on them, more money.

addiction is what made them rich and will make them more richer.
Well, the irony is that many of them donate just to give back and for the good cause of other people's welfare. On the other hand, what you have said is true that they're becoming rich because of people the money that comes from their gambling business, and that happens when gamblers are losing.

There goes the cycle of who gets the benefit and who contributes a lot. But a good thing that if there are helps like this, they should be easily searched and taken away for a dial or chat because usually, addicted gamblers need someone to talk to instantly to help him change his mind if ever something bad is already circulating onto his head.
703  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: December 11, 2023, 04:45:19 PM
I don't follow any type of betting strategy but if this works for you and you are risking likely a free money from your household income, that works better. When you do this, if the income of the household is quite high then 1% is going to be high as well. But for those that have lesser income then this obviously is just a small amount of their entire income.

Needless to say, as long as the amount is bearable and won't be a source of quarrel between husband and wife then it's all good to just gamble with it, and if you can slash some more, much better. The discipline that we all have are varying from gambler to gambler so, if 1% is already enough then please don't go more than that because it is you that's going to have more problems on it and you have to deal with it later on.

If you follow this religiously and works for you perfectly. Keep the strategy and maintain it.

The gambler should have the attitude of keeping their own strategy for the game betting,this 1% percentage of the income is also the gambling fund’s handling strategy.Instead of using the one percentage of income,the gambler may choose to have 10 percentage of income to the gambling.So the gambler can experienced the real gambling game,it may help him to learn how to play that specific game,even if the gambler had loss of money in the gambling site.The gambler should understand the difference between using the free money to the gambling site and to the money for the immediate money into the gambling.The gambler should not do use of mostly needed money into gambling.
Increasing your budget in gambling doesn't mean that you're going to have more real gambling experience. 1% is more than enough for someone who's a family man. It's also not guaranteed that you're going to win more money with that much. Although the fact is, you can stay longer with that budget but as I've said, 1% is already a decent amount if the household income is quite high.

There's no need to learn any specific game with that much because as a test, you should always test the waters with small amounts only. And that's why I don't tip people to gamble with a lot of money that they can't afford to lose and always gonna say to do it only with money that they don't mind of losing it.

What you're saying is kind of conflicting about using needed money and increasing the budget to 10% just to experience real gambling. Anyway, if you are the type of gambler and you can gamble that much then just go ahead but make sure that you have no regrets after.
704  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: December 11, 2023, 03:54:08 PM
I don't follow any type of betting strategy but if this works for you and you are risking likely a free money from your household income, that works better. When you do this, if the income of the household is quite high then 1% is going to be high as well. But for those that have lesser income then this obviously is just a small amount of their entire income.

Needless to say, as long as the amount is bearable and won't be a source of quarrel between husband and wife then it's all good to just gamble with it, and if you can slash some more, much better. The discipline that we all have are varying from gambler to gambler so, if 1% is already enough then please don't go more than that because it is you that's going to have more problems on it and you have to deal with it later on.

If you follow this religiously and works for you perfectly. Keep the strategy and maintain it.
705  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I think gambling is inbuilt, kids don't learn it anywhere, they do it! on: December 11, 2023, 02:43:02 PM
In my opinion, gambling depends on the home environment and the environment where he plays with his friends, because if the environment and friends are good then his brain will definitely avoid gambling. However, if the place where you live and the environment is bad, many people gamble, then indirectly, if they have a track record, the people around them will also do the same. Not because of gambling advertisements scattered in the media, because if it happened because of gambling advertisements in the media the whole world would definitely gamble.
That's the cons of it, when a kid is with friends that have been into gambling and those kids don't even let their parents know that they're into it. It's going to be shared with other kid friends that they have and out of curiosity, they're going to happily gamble with their parent's money and it won't matter to them because it's not their money. As long as they enjoy the money, whether it's with foods, drinks or gambling.

The only thing that will impact to them is the enjoyment that they're getting. I think the apps that can also be downloaded plays a role on it when they're accessible and can be downloaded anytime without having a very strict rule from such platforms like google play where they can just type a few keywords like gambling and app and then it will appear to them and they're free to download and play it. And much worse, if it's not just a free game but with deposits as well thinking that they're earning real money in an actual casino app.
706  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one you are good at? on: December 11, 2023, 01:33:09 PM
So, the question is... Which are you better at: selecting the right bet or managing your bankroll?
Well, I guess that most of us do have that not proportion bets with wins and losses that we're having. I'll take a guess that the majority of us have a bigger percentage rate with the losses than of the wins, right? Someone who's good at managing bankroll but not good in selecting right bets because when you say that you're good at selecting bets then you have to win it as well. If you're not winning it then those bets aren't selected well. And for me, that's what it means to be a good selector of bets, the win must be there.

And, how has it been going so far? Are you profitable or not, and why?
Not at all.
I've been into esports lately and can't be said to be a good one. I just have that love for it and likes how it goes in the scene but I am not an expert on the betting side and prefer not to be called one. Because it's always unpredictable in sports betting. While you get some info and ideas on what might happen, sometimes they're just too exhausting even if you did the right way of analyzing before the game commences with all the news and details you can search but still, with some clutch, the game changes and ends oppositely to the bet you make.
707  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A hero or a fool? on: December 11, 2023, 11:31:13 AM
Never heard of this story before but if this exists then that guy did himself a favor by actually requesting the casino to self-exclude him. Well, if there are features like this that we can see online then it's possible to ask and request this on physical casinos. I don't know how can that guy be a hero if he's just into himself but can be said that he's a hero on his own by doing such things.

Anyway, let's just have it this way anything that you do for yourself to help you get out of addiction is a good step. Whether it's something crazy like this or even crazier, as long as you're trying hard and helping yourself out then that's the best thing that you're doing because you are initiating things. As they say, if it works then it's not stupid at all, right?

What can be other crazy ways of stopping oneself from addiction? I'm thinking of a lot of gamblers who are dealing with addiction and doing odd but effective ways to help themselves. It is a tough battle to fight your own addiction because there's no one there that's going to do it for you and no other people but you alone can do it.
708  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: December 11, 2023, 10:34:32 AM
11 hours from now, we're about to see the start of the ESL Kuala Lumpur 2023. Where are you guys? Where are the Dota 2 folks here? Let's start some discussion as I cannot cover most of the updates as I only see a few and most likely none of them regarding players and updates if someone's going to play for stand in or not.

RUMOR: Tundra Esports might move to NA and will take to their wings the roster of the released TSM players which is now named, Team Undying. While I don't see yet the name replaced for Team Undying into Tundra Esports so, this is still a rumor. What do you think of it? The last team I've known Tundra is remaining only with Topson and if the entire Team Undying going to be taken over by Tundra then it's all out for Topson.

After the 2-peat achievement of Topson, despite one of the best mid laners out there and proven to be a team player. He's like a stray dog in the proscene now. It's entirely different with his former gang with the roster that he's got with OG before. Speaking of him, what team do you think still need a strong mid as him?

I think that Topson will be very difficult to join any team, I sometimes even think that with him no team will reach high places.
I guess he's just done with his prime. He went from SEA back to EU and then still didn't manage to end with good places. Dota isn't just all about individual skills but it's a team game. Compared with his relationship and team plays with the real og, OG. It can no longer be compared with the power of friendship and chemistry for which we are seeing this with current Team Spirit.

Azure Ray defeated Secret and started well, now they already have 3 points. Considering that they could have been suspended, their performance is much more interesting to watch. It’s a pity that I didn’t have time to watch this match, it took place early in the morning in my country (

BB played to a draw with GG and Wawitas Saga. And thaey need to start winning, because a draw only gives 1 point, that’s not enough.

Tomorrow for me there will be the most interesting match AZ - BB, BB will also play with SECRET, I hope this will not be another draw) I would like to see amazing games.
I've watched the game of Azure Ray and Blacklist Rivalry, both ended up today with a 3-1 and that's a good start for both teams. Whilst for Wawitas Sagazes, they're like a bonus round for the first day.

RUMOR: Tundra Esports might move to NA and will take to their wings the roster of the released TSM players which is now named, Team Undying.
Alright, this rumor tend to be true and Team Undying's team name now changed to Tundra Esports. This is a nice move for Tundra so that they'll still have their organization in the meta, former TSM/Undying players ain't that bad at all. Knowing that there's not that much competition in the NA scene, so this is a smart choice for them.

And guys, guess who's back?
News: Chinese Dota 2 legend Ame returns to pro play with Xtreme Gaming

Who is excited to see Ame in the pro scene again? I know that most of the fans here including me wanted him to see reunite with his former gang in LGD. Currently, Xtreme Gaming is just composed of two player, him and DY. For sure that there are arrangements already and we'll need to wait further about their announcement on who are the other three players that will be added to the roster.
709  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who should quit, and why? on: December 11, 2023, 09:48:00 AM
In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
That's a tricky situation. There can be justification that both of them are responsible gamblers and parents and they are not neglecting their duties to their kids. But at the same time, if you're going to realize that they're in a bad situation if it's going to affect their parenthood and the kids will see that they're gamblers, I think that's the time that they need to adjust. But are they going to continue while the kids won't ask questions related to gambling because they can see that their parents are gambling? I don't know, I am not yet in that situation so for me only time can tell how they're going to adjust to the situation.

Being a parent with a lot of obligations needs to weigh a lot of things and people might say that they're not earning with gambling. Let's get real guys there are people who truly see gambling as a source of income and they are united on it because they both know the ins and outs of it. They won't get married not knowing that they're gambling or probably they even met because of a casino or both of them is their hobby. Proper communication should be done on this part, maybe a give and take for both of them. Today, the guy can gamble and tomorrow it's the wife. Something like that and I believe that things like this can be sort with any possible good solution.
710  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bankroll! on: December 11, 2023, 09:22:32 AM
I know there are bettors here who dream of investing in sports betting and hoping to consistently make money from it.
Investing and betting are two different things, it's not the same, I think that the closest call and in general will be investing in the bankroll of the casino for which you have asked the following questions.

So, I'd like to ask the following questions:

1. How much bankroll can you afford to start with?
For now, I don't have any affordability to do that. With the recent research that I've seen or let's just say quick reading from the experience of the actual bankroll investors, it's not worth it. But if you have spare money to invest there, that's much better with movement than to be stagnant and have no gains at all.

Oh, going to the point where I'll be starting to invest with the bankroll. I won't start with a small one because gains with that starting capital is so much little so mostly if I can afford more than a thousand buck.

2. With your bankroll, how much expected profit do you anticipate in a year?
This varies and depending on the revenue of the casino but with that amount, I expect no less than 3%-5%. This is just a guess percentage and more likely close to reality.

3. Will you be content with your profit? If not, have you considered increasing your bankroll, even if you cannot afford it?
Yes, if that's just a spare money of mine. As I've said, that's so much better than to gain nothing by being stagnant or deposited in a bank.
711  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Math and Gambling on: December 10, 2023, 10:39:31 PM
In cases like this, there are many gamblers who don't understand what gambling really means and only have reckless capital and a strong ambition to be able to win even though the way they play is wrong, namely excessive and uncontrolled.
IMO, they know what gambling really is and they understand it. What they don't understand is their approach towards it and they're having a hard time controlling it and they think it's just all a game of numbers and money and losses can easily be retrieved when they gamble again, heck no. That's what they don't want to accept although they understand what's actually happening.

And it's true, if things like the above continue to be done without stopping then he will experience bad effects on gambling.
There's the bad effects as usual and one is being addicted and going on with what OP is thinking that schools are useless. Well, everyone just go with the numbers and math and see if self learning will be enough when someone grows up. There's the fundamentals and normal process of what one has to learn.
712  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Aspect of Sports Betting or Casino Gambling Posed a Challenge for You? on: December 10, 2023, 08:59:53 PM
When there is something that I don't know, the internet is accessible, and can visit any website to know what are those challenges that I've met. But there's none that I need to.

Reading comments on the internet, and especially on this forum, took me to the conclusion I couldn't easily win on long run, although there were also many posts on this forum from gamblers who advised sports betting as a consistent method of gambling that could guarantee profitability along the time, unlike traditional casino's games. So, I guess trial and error was also necessary on the learnship process, because if I only took third party opinions into consideration, I would be really in doubt about who was right and wrong. I had to try by myself.
Me either. That's why even before the need to search them through the web. When I have also read the comments of the other members here, that's making me understand something too quick. But any resource is valid to determine the answer that you're looking for. A lot of information can easily be accessed and used as long as they're on the free public and that's why it's like a library of gambling terms and rules with a few keywords and they'll appear as results.
713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey on: December 10, 2023, 07:11:37 PM
Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Yup.

There's always a resolution to matters like this. It's only about how the problem gambler will handle himself and resist gambling as much as he can. If there are friends and relatives that are willing to help him completely avoid gambling, then it's on him that they're counting to help himself as well.

Problem gamblers have different approaches and whatever works for them and gradually removes the problematic thing they've got with gambling. They need to be consistent on it and focus until the results are visible and they're finally seeing it on their own that it's actually working.
714  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling? on: December 10, 2023, 05:40:02 PM
If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?
None, nothing. That's what I'll say because it is none of my business and scope to give them some warning if I'm just a staff. I'll just do whatever is tasked to me like assisting them with their bets or whatsoever but to give them a reminder, I'll only give them some reminder if they're doing things against the casino's policy and premises.

That's none of our business anymore but it's nice to have that someone to give some reminder to these folks. But let alone decide whether to push and continue or just walk away with whatever amount they have already. Because if not, you might even be blamed if they get bad luck. You don't know what's on the mind of these people when they gamble especially if they've been winning a lot already.

A few signs or talks and being a staff, you might get scolded for interfering with their affairs by just simply talking to them. You only talk when they talk to you, you only answer when they ask you a thing or two.
715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: December 10, 2023, 04:46:25 PM
11 hours from now, we're about to see the start of the ESL Kuala Lumpur 2023. Where are you guys? Where are the Dota 2 folks here? Let's start some discussion as I cannot cover most of the updates as I only see a few and most likely none of them regarding players and updates if someone's going to play for stand in or not.

RUMOR: Tundra Esports might move to NA and will take to their wings the roster of the released TSM players which is now named, Team Undying. While I don't see yet the name replaced for Team Undying into Tundra Esports so, this is still a rumor. What do you think of it? The last team I've known Tundra is remaining only with Topson and if the entire Team Undying going to be taken over by Tundra then it's all out for Topson.

After the 2-peat achievement of Topson, despite one of the best mid laners out there and proven to be a team player. He's like a stray dog in the proscene now. It's entirely different with his former gang with the roster that he's got with OG before. Speaking of him, what team do you think still need a strong mid as him?
716  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 10, 2023, 04:23:19 PM
Someone introducing us to gambling may be unintentional
It all starts with some stories and that's the reason why a gambler is happily sharing his experiences due that there's someone who wants to listen with our wins and losses.

But there are still many cases where they are taking advantage of us. They introduce us to gambling so that they can get referral bonuses. This is deplorable.
You will spot on the person that's taking advantage of you. If you're a new gambler and someone just wants to sign you up under his referral link, this is one of the many possible reasons why he's introducing you to gambling and that's what I can think of but for sure that there are other many way of taking advantage. And if you think that you're forced to do it, just don't do it. But as a newbie and being friendly to that person who's introducing you, I guess that you'll just accept and let it happen.

But in the end, the fault is still ours. Our money and the right to decide still belong to us. If we are addicted, it is because we cannot control ourselves. What we need to do now is to find a way to escape addiction. Asking the closest person to help us is a perfect way because people with an addiction will not be able to escape their gambling addiction on their own.
I do not regret that I am into gambling and someone introduced me to it. But yes, it's all our decision and fault. If the results don't do us any good then there is no need to blame that person that introduced us but only us. Stop pinpointing fingers to others if it's about our personal lives and decisions.
717  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 10, 2023, 03:29:27 PM
Big congrats to Lakers for becoming NBA in season champs but also big congrats for LeBron and his MVP win award who is well deserved in my opinion even if AD really played great during this tournament. Now , the job is done , they can actually focus on NBA games and maybe it's time to deliver a winning streak.  Cool
Congrats to the Lakers, that was a heck of a journey for them to become this in season tournament's champ. I still give credit to the Pacers for reaching this far. I think that this is the first time again for me to seen them reach this quite far. Honestly, they've got a good run and Lebron being the MVP on this in season is still showing on how this "old" man can do.

Lebron is always Lebron, age is just a number for him and a whopping $500k for his pay check. Wow! Is this also a hint that the rumored additional team could be the Las Vegas? Hmmm, I've just heard of the rumor about that and instead of Seattle Sonics, it's going to be Las Vegas - what?

Another player that's good on this game is Austin Reaves. The kid after coming from the bench was on fire. It's like that he doesn't want to go back to the bench so he did all his best. Well, if most of the bench players are going to be like him, they won't get that much rest. LOL.
718  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap on: December 09, 2023, 10:43:15 PM
What to believe? Beginner's luck or the first game win trap? Let's just all enjoy gambling and let the newbies enjoy their bets whether they win or lose. I agree with the last part of what OP said about gambling only what you afford to lose. It all ends up with that story when someone wants to gamble but only with that amount that he's very fine to lose.

Let the new gamblers experience their fate with their first bets. Win or lose, let them feel the essence of feeling how it's like. Because they will be the one to determine what it is actually, if it's beginner's luck or the first game win trap. But regardless of that, we're all going to have some good moments and many losing moments so, share the joy and don't skip the fun but with proper management and control so that you won't lose a lot.  Tongue
719  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Looking forward to invest on: December 09, 2023, 10:04:12 PM
Go to these links that will help you how to start buying Bitcoin guides:


You don't know what coin to start? And that's why Bitcoin is the best coin for you to start buying, there's no need for you to get on that much with most altcoins when you're still beginning although no one stops you from doing that.
720  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: December 09, 2023, 11:25:36 AM
with some statements from Yatoro that the Aegis in the TI is a scam because they're just allowed to keep it for a night and then will be taken away from them the next day.

So basically Valve reused all those aegis every year huh, kinda lame. I thought the winner would be able to keep them but honestly it just doesnt really make sense to keep them either because most team or organization got disbanded in a year or two after they got The Aegis.
Probably, I don't know about OG's story about the Aegis but it could be the same or they're able to keep it. But as we are all expecting, it's a trophy that the champions should keep forever, right? It's a plaque of their success for being the best team for the entire year. Yes, there goes the teams that disbanded after taking the aegis but Team Spirit is still intact but with just 1 changed player.

I think the matter of fact here is the authenticity that it came from Yatoro who's now a 2 time TI champion. It's just sad that the moment that should be theirs with the aegis was taken away, anyway they can just make their own plaques and trophies and display it to their salas or rooms. But I've seen collapse has a better trophy with that brand new car or it was just a photo op.
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