I loved the idea of having some funds completely "out of the system". "Unfortunately", Bitcoin has become so successful that its has a lot of probabilities of becoming also "part of the system". That's good and bad at the same time. As I said, it's "complex".
Go overseas for a holiday and while you are there open a bank account. I have bank accounts around the world. I don't have that much "surplus" cash to really need that. Otherwise I would have opened a bank account in Gibraltar as some people I know have. I would like to open a USA account (for my crypto dealings) and I use to go to Las Vegas every once in a while but I don't think it is so easy, is it?? |
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I use cash for everything except online purchases.
We all should. The State would love nothing more than to abolish it once and for all so they can track our every move.
It is a "use it or lose it" kind of thing. It is up to each of us to keep the cash infrastructure operational.
I do it all the time. We all should, yeah... but it's EOL is coming. I don't think there's no turning back at this point. I have already accepted it. Fortunately we do have crypto. At least until even stricter KYC/AML controls even for purchases.... Oh... and I think I have never said one (main?) of the reasons I got into Bitcoin in 2013 was because I realised cash had its days counted. So.. thanks for that... or not... it's complex... lol I loved the idea of having some funds completely "out of the system" (besides cash buried somewhere). "Unfortunately", Bitcoin has become so successful that it has a lot of probabilities of becoming also "part of the system". That's good and bad at the same time. As I said, it's "complex". |
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Cute, but: 1/340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 to win, so.....  I believe the chances of getting to visit Mars before I die are greater  There are quicker ways to test your luck. But for perspective, the change of being hit by lightning 30,000 per second for the rest of your life is way, way bigger than finding a loaded wallet by random keypair lookup. So what do you suggest? Build a lighting rod. |
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2% of actual increase on top of the 10K, what country, planet are you from..... we have to pay for having a bank account, and probably the time will come we have to pay, to may save money on a/that bank account Banks are shit but still 2% is rather common. I got 3% and it's not under heavy conditions and it's rather risk-free. But if you consider inflation it's only a 1/1.5% net gain. So BTC wins anyway. I get exactly 0%. And inflation is well over your 2%. What planet... I get 1.15% in fully guaranteed deposit. Regular is 0% to 0.5%. You just need to do your homework. |
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Any time I've checked out boat rentals you can usually buy the boat for about 4 to 6 months of rental. I'm planning on buying a cheap $10k small boat now then buy something better later. It just needs to float and get me 12 nautical miles. We're also in high season here so all the boat prices are more expensive. Always buy boats AFTER high season. ANyways $10K is cheap enough to not deserve much consideration I guess. |
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If debt bondage is slavery then a bank loan is slavery. You are being deliberately absurd. Your entire argument is based on false premises. And as usual, you know it.
One random quote from the US State Department: Thai victims are recruited for employment opportunities abroad and deceived into incurring large debts on broker and recruitment fees, sometimes using family-owned land as collateral, making them vulnerable to exploitation at their destination. Thai nationals are known to be subjected to forced labor or sex trafficking in Australia, Bahrain, Brunei, Canada, China, Germany, India, Indonesia, Israel, Japan, Kuwait, Libya, Malaysia, the Maldives, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, South Africa, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Timor-Leste, the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, the United States, Vietnam, and Yemen. https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/210742.pdfHairy is right. Slavery exists in America. It's not a matter of opinion. People come over from 3rd world countries all the time, have their passports taken away and are forced into some kind of job... Not just sex slavery, though that is a popular one. Recently the U.S. halted issuing visas to Filipino overseas workers with the second biggest reason being "human trafficking concerns." https://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/01/22/19/us-removes-philippines-from-h-2ah-2b-eligibility-listBack in my health insurance fraud analyst days there was an English/Chilean cult-of-personality psychiatrist who recruited people to come on a "spiritual retreat" with him in Florida, then when they got there he confiscated their passports and forced them to be his servants. It happens all the fucking time. https://www.lavoz.com.ar/noticias/sucesos/detienen-buenos-aires-famoso-psiquiatra-millonario-fraude-eeuuI have never understood why is it so bad for someone having their passport taken away. Can't you just go to your country foreign embassy and request another one? |
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Sideways, sideways
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you?
I know what I will do... Hodl and sell some on the next bubble. And I also know what to do in the meantime... I decided to embark in a new project that will probably make very busy for most of the year (or maybe more). It is working awesomely. No more hurry for the next rally... I will be ready by the time it comes but I don't care anymore if it takes a while.
It will happen, eventually.
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Fuck this market, i sold 60% of my btc yesterday. if it goes on like this for the next three months, I'll sell everything.  Yes. 60% of your .1 btc would be .06 BTC. At least, you still have some BTC (.04btc), right? Thanks for letting us know that you are both a dumb ass and a small player. A jealous legendary miner who has 1to 2btc. Don't cry. Just hold Your statement is most probably wrong. Most of regulars here have a median of two digits BTC, with a few in the three and even 4 digits. I am COMPLETELY sure JJG has at least two digits BTC. I am absolutely not wrong in that... a little maybe in the three digits but I wouldn't think so as most probable. I would bet, with enough confidence, he doesn't reach three digits and if he does it is a in the very lower end. I don't think he has ever been a miner either. |
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Sideways, sideways
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you?
Modded to haiku 5-7-5: Sideways, forever Singing: When they come for you.. When they come for you? How you dare?!?! Your haiku has broken all the meaning of my masterpiece! Respect art! Will ya? I thought that is was open source, lol Damn forkers.... The original chain is 3 bytes longer btw. |
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Sideways, sideways
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you?
Modded to haiku 5-7-5: Sideways, forever Singing: When they come for you.. When they come for you? How you dare?!?! Your haiku has broken all the meaning of my masterpiece! Respect art! Will ya? |
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Sideways, sideways
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you?
Wait, that can't possibly be proper haiku. Who are you? The haiku nazi police?!? |
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Sideways, sideways
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you?
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Yes I know I would need batteries and in fact that would be the most expensive part of the project for the amounts of energy I would need to storage. But if the solar panels are able to deliver the 5KW I would need during sun hours then I would move to the second phase before cutting from the grid. If it doesn't then maybe I will anyways install some panels to reduce the electricity bill but my idea of a completely self sustained property would not be viable.
I suppose there are many differences between a small boat/RV installation and a home one. Main one being the space limitation to install enough panels and maintaining the proper orientation and angle against the sun.
It's really all pretty much the same. The main difference is the type of voltages required. Higher voltages mean you can run your wires farther on a narrower gauge wire with less resistance. Typical electrical instillation's want to stay below 80% of your total capacity. ie, if you want 5kW of continuous load then plan on having a 6kW or higher system. Like I mentioned before having a good inverter is key. You don't want a bunch of noise in your circuit playing havoc with valuable electronics. If I can get near 80% max output from the panels then I guess this would be viable and cost effective. Panel price has dropped a lot in the past few years. Just an example: https://autosolar.es/paneles-de-conexion-a-red/panel-solar-270w-talesun-policristalinoAnd they can bought even cheaper. So, at less than 0.5$/Watt I would say the ROI would be reasonably good. Good advice that of the inverter. The panels I understand don't matter that much and mostly just care about the cost per Watt, but will be very careful on choosing a good inverter thanks! |
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Sideways, sideways....
Well... After the btcmillionaire more than successful subject about creating a self sustainable pond in his property... I would like to ask.... Anyone here has fully self-sustainable solar powered property? I have studied a lot about it, but some real life experience from another fellow WO'er would be great.
I think it is already at the point where it is cost efficient (more so considering where I live... SUN all the time!) and I am perfectly capable of doing everything myself and know my shit about buying stuff for way less that its usual price (either second hand or surplus) which will also help reduce the total cost substantially.
The property already has its own waterwell with enough capacity to fill the 125000 litres pool over a couple days. So it is only the power grid what I would like to cut off for a completely self sustainable property. My dream!
Will WO also deliver this time? lol
WO please, I understand that we're not on a 90 degree up course to the moon, but this thread has a reputation to uphold. Somebody respond to the man. Not a licensed electrician? Want to be a human bug zapper? Wire your own solar panels. C'on we are talking about low DC power here.... just don't touch the inverter output (or any other 220V AC live wiring) when it is active but thats some common sense. P.S.: Of course don't short circuit the panel wiring.... no electroshock but nice sparks and wire melting assured. |
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Sideways, sideways....
Well... After the btcmillionaire more than successful subject about creating a self sustainable pond in his property... I would like to ask.... Anyone here has fully self-sustainable solar powered property? I have studied a lot about it, but some real life experience from another fellow WO'er would be great.
I think it is already at the point where it is cost efficient (more so considering where I live... SUN all the time!) and I am perfectly capable of doing everything myself and know my shit about buying stuff for way less that its usual price (either second hand or surplus) which will also help reduce the total cost substantially.
The property already has its own waterwell with enough capacity to fill the 125000 litres pool over a couple days. So it is only the power grid what I would like to cut off for a completely self sustainable property. My dream!
Will WO also deliver this time? lol
Totalmente sostenible es posible pero difícil debido a varios factores. Lo primero y más importante es que el Sol solo brilla tantas horas al día. Así que puedes tener tantos paneles fotovoltaicos como quieras, pero durante las horas nocturnas, estarás de vuelta en la red. Para resolver esto, debe tener algún tipo de almacenamiento y ahí es donde se vuelve más complejo y costoso. Primero tienes que averiguar cuál es tu presupuesto de energía y luego trabajar desde allí. Puedo decirle que, al reemplazar los paneles solares en mi bote y poner un pequeño sistema atado a la rejilla en mi cabina, sigue siendo extremadamente costoso y el ROI puede ser de más de 10 años como mínimo. También diré que hay un montón de recursos disponibles con solo una simple búsqueda en google. Le daré una fraseología específica que podría ayudarlo a reducir sus opciones. 1) Paneles fotovoltaicos monocristalinos con PERC 2) controlador de carga MTTP 3) Baterías de fosfato de litio y hierro o LiFePO 44) Inversor de coseno verdadero Lo más probable es que pueda pagar tanto por el banco de baterías como por el sistema fotovoltaico, pero ese no es el lugar para escatimar. Las baterías de 12 voltios están bien para sistemas en un bote pequeño o en una cabina que no se usa todo el tiempo. Si planea un uso diario o tiene un presupuesto de energía significativo, le recomendaría un banco de 48v o al menos 24v. Agregaré que me tomó casi 2 años y mucho ensayo y error descubrir lo que necesitaba e implementarlo en un sistema viable. ymmv. Yes I know I would need batteries and in fact that would be the most expensive part of the project for the amounts of energy I would need to storage. But if the solar panels are able to deliver the 5KW I would need during sun hours then I would move to the second phase (battery storage) before cutting from the grid. If it doesn't then maybe I will anyways install some panels to reduce the electricity bill but my idea of a completely self sustained property would not be viable. I suppose there are many differences between a small boat/RV installation and a home one. Main one being the space limitation to install enough panels and maintaining the proper orientation and angle against the sun. Btw, was that a google translation or is it you? lol |
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Sideways, sideways....
Well... After the btcmillionaire more than successful subject about creating a self sustainable pond in his property... I would like to ask.... Anyone here has fully self-sustainable solar powered property? I have studied a lot about it, but some real life experience from another fellow WO'er would be great.
I think it is already at the point where it is cost efficient (more so considering where I live... SUN all the time!) and I am perfectly capable of doing everything myself and know my shit about buying stuff for way less that its usual price (either second hand or surplus) which will also help reduce the total cost substantially.
The property already has its own waterwell with enough capacity to fill the 125000 litres pool over a couple days. So it is only the power grid what I would like to cut off for a completely self sustainable property. My dream!
Will WO also deliver this time? lol
I am certainly not an expert, but are you building new, or retrofitting an existing AC wired home/building? With solar I think you have two main choices to wind up with usable electricity: Use an inverter to convert it to AC to run your existing appliances (expensive), or build new, with larger wiring in the walls for DC (to avoid voltage drop), then find all DC appliances (expensive). Many do that with camping and RV appliances. That is on top of the power generation itself. Then if you want to watch TV at night (or whatever) you need batteries/storage (expensive). I don't know what your weather is, but you can get better BTUs per dollar of heating perhaps with a passive heat storage, and pump heated water around. Perhaps gravel beds under the house, and/or water for thermal storage. If you need air conditioning, you need a serious inverter (expensive) or RV AC unit. I haven't looked, there are surely green-type DC appliances now that are better than using camping/RV appliances. It would look funny for your luxurious BTC millionaire home to have tiny RV fridges around... If you are building new, it's much easier to implement some of this stuff, compared to retrofitting. I am not an expert. A 125000 liter pool doesn't sound very large (is this a swimming pool?), where I am from ponds are small (measured in tens of thousands of gallons), and lakes are measured in acres. Depending on your weather, perhaps some sort of geothermal involvement could help, and that takes a lot of power for all the pumping. The house is already AC powered from the power grid. Yes, I know the elements needed in the installation. In fact there are more than a simple inverter which might be the case for that example of a RV. The AC wiring I am already renovating to current standards (better cables, more section, etc...) so I could do a parallel DC grid but that is not what I really want. Heating is not really a problem where I live, (cool) air conditioning is. Also the pool pump and waterwell pump are quite powerfull. I would need to sustain around 5KW peaks in total for the entire house power needs. I know that is probably too much for solar but I have a 150 square meters sun oriented surface above the house where I could install the panels. So there's more than enough space. Then I see 300Watts panels are 1x2 meters square. I know panels don't usually deliver its max power but I am not sure what to expect IRL delivered power.... ie: 80% 50%? I will probably just install a couple and see how it goes before adding more if the result is satisfactory but I supposed there would be some fellow WO member that had already did it (because of self sustain and all that). Yeah, it is a swimming pool. Here it is considered a big pool I mean for a private/non-shared one. In fact I would prefer if it were a bit smaller or less deep but I can live with it thanks to the waterwell almost free water... otherwise I would be ruined by the water bill soon lol Geothermal doesn't make sense around here. I mean, heating is not problem, it is electricity what I need to power the cooling air conditioners. |
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I am bullish on Bitcoin but guys, those levels of delusion don't help. Just let Bitcoin do its thing at its own peace lol
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Gopher died. But it was *clearly* an inferior product so I don't see how that comparison applies here. |
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Sideways, sideways....
Well... After the btcmillionaire more than successful subject about creating a self sustainable pond in his property... I would like to ask.... Anyone here has fully self-sustainable solar powered property? I have studied a lot about it, but some real life experience from another fellow WO'er would be great.
I think it is already at the point where it is cost efficient (more so considering where I live... SUN all the time!) and I am perfectly capable of doing everything myself and know my shit about buying stuff for way less that its usual price (either second hand or surplus) which will also help reduce the total cost substantially.
The property already has its own waterwell with enough capacity to fill the 125000 litres pool over a couple days. So it is only the power grid what I would like to cut off for a completely self sustainable property. My dream!
Will WO also deliver this time? lol
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From current prices what crypto do you think will 10x first, Ethereum or Bitcoin?
Just get out with your ETH, nobody care’s in here Probably grin or how it is called People in here keep talking about that overhyped Grin shit that will most likely die out so I can talk about ethereum  Bitcoin is #1 in my book but the goal is to make money, the alts always pump harder when the bull starts. I will give you an honest answer: Maybe ETH sooner *IF* Bitcoin goes into a bull run... but also take into consideration that ETH also has *WAY* higher probabilities to do -10X (minus) than Bitcoin. Your money, your call. |
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