Many of bitcoin's detractors will often say that it's held by too few people. Well, look at "actual money" then. 85% of it is completely unaccounted for.
Keep this in mind next time someone says anything about bitcoin.
Everything is accounted for; that's the role of the central bank. Any money that will be created or destroyed is just like a plus or minus on their books. Maybe the right description is that 85% is not in circulation for use by the majority of the people, as mentioned; it's used by big corporations and banks for their business purposes. Many of the members who wrote here are surprised because most of the money is not printed, but they take it for granted that there is a real risk of extinction of bills and coins if the CBDCs succeed, and I'm almost sure that most of them pay with credit card even the most casual purchase. If more physical money doesn't exist is because with a 15% seems to be enough (it shouldn't, but...). |
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There is too much noise affecting people's minds, creating a rush to invest anywhere sooner. People present on the forum are unlikely to make mistakes with investments since the truth is repeated many times: there is nothing free on the Internet. But fans of social networks are future victims, greedily hunting for “gifts” either from the public or now from the impending halving, which will certainly be presented in the news as the coming of the time when you need to prepare for riches. And scammers, who are still very inventive, will show everyone the high art of deception.
I agree with you that the members of this forum are a bit better prepared against scam attempts, but anyone can fall into these traps, and thinking that it would be hard for anyone to fall is the first step towards this end. Especially in times like this one. Bull runs are the moment where scammers can get the best results from their dubious practices, not only because of these special feelings (FOMO, rush to invest, hype) but because it is the time when most people decide to take action, and once the decision is made, it is easier for scammers to manipulate them on how that action should be materialized. |
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Whatever method 1xbit uses by using a new brand and a new business, people will still know they are the same business, which is why 1xbit might be a little frustrated, especially if they appear again like in the past where they tried another campaign on this forum. However, they will still be marked as scam sites and people will stay away from them.
The brand of being a scam website will never go away, it's never going anywhere so in my opinion, they're going to be having a hard time atoning and trying to prove themselves to the community, I believe in redemption so I hope that that's the path that 1xbit will take on, hopefully many of us will be proven wrong that they're just good for it on the early stages and won't commit until forgiven. Man, it's hard to run a gambling website that was supposed to be dead with all the scam allegations and accusations that turned out to be true. I also believe in the redemption, although once you lose the trust of the people it is hard to reestablish it. But I'm not necessarily for the opinion about the brand. A few days ago I learnt how they were creating physical casinos in certain countries, with a slightly different name (1xbet) and, if they get popular this way, chances are that their past reputation in this forum is forgotten some day. |
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Great! Thank you Hatchy, I'll update all the links right now. Lastly, my current signature campaign had ended, and I won't be joining another one anytime soon, so I decided to wear the AOBT signature, but found out that there wasn't one made for my current rank FULL MEMBER. I wanted to ask if it were possible to get @jayce the original designer of the AOBT signatures to create one for the full member rank. Also, I noticed we didn't have an avatar for the AOBT and since Im also good at graphics designs and arts, I decided to put my skills to work.  I made an avatar for the gang, I actually designed 2 and want the gang to see if its okay or pick from both avatar, which will be better as THE AOBT AVATAR. I would love to hear from you guys so I can put the avatar on. Here's the avatar   -snip- Hey! that was really unexpected  Thank you for your effort and motivation. I think that other members like the idea too (I personally do). It reminds me of Ace Attorney, but instead of "Objection!" it would be more like "Translation!"  Porf: please be aware that there are some translations made by you which have still the old model for the above sentence ( link 1, link 2, link 3, link 4; at link 4 maybe you can take a look also at the image links as they are broken...). Thank you Gazeta, these days are being chaotic with many exams, but I'll edit them asap. |
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Eh pues está bien eso de "hacer el Bitcoin". Eso no es lo que les contestaban a sus madres los mineros de la década pasada, cuándo les preguntaban qué hacía tanto tiempo el ordenador encendido? - Estoy haciendo el Bitcoin, mamá!!
Bueno, a mí toda la controversia política me importa poco (ellos sabrán...), pero no estaría mal del todo un El Salvador ahí, bien cerquita de Andorra, con el satoshi como legal tender. Todo un reclamo paradisíaco para incluencers, deportistas y shakiras.
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I have some ideas
Yeah, care to enlighten us?.. Taking into account that he/she hasn't answered since he/she created the OP, I think that we will be left with the doubt. It's why 1 BTC = 1 BTC, not 1 BTC = $34,000 or anything else.
If you view BTC in USD equivalent, you will not able to get rid from USD, while fiat will become worthless and banks will bankrupt. While Bitcoin is resistance against that since Bitcoin has own it's feature and you're don't rely with third party platform.
Not necessarily. 1 BTC is 1 BTC; $34,000; €33,000; one Toyota C-HR... all of these at the same time. We value things in comparison to others since we started trading eggs for apples thousands of years ago. It's common in our circle the saying 1BTC is 1BTC, and while it is true, we shouldn't believe at face value all the other implications we tend to associate with it, like the one that states that it cannot be valued compared to other currencies. |
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Pues a mí me preocupa un poco que a estas alturas de ciclo un porcentaje tan grande de inversores estén ya en ganancia. Creo recordar que en esta fase todavía incipiente, otros ciclos las direcciones en ganancia eran menos en términos porcentuales.
Otra cosa es que, como decís, muchos aunque estén en ganancias vayan a esperar a que suba, pero ¿otra vez ponemos el ancla en los 100k? con tanta gente en una posición cómoda para vender, ojalá me equivoque pero me parece que va a estar complicado traspasar la barrera de las seis cifras.
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Thank you! I have just added the all translations mentioned.
In fact, I like to add at the end of my translations the following code: Translation made at AOBT initiative (<--- this sentence should be translated into your own language):
[center][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5442314.0][img width=500]https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AOBTranslators/Images/main/AOBT%20Logo.png[/img][/url][/center] which looks like this, with a link to our ANN included: Traducción ofrecida a iniciativa de: So, following Gazeta's reminder, please, take it into account when you finish your new translations and update, when possible, the old ones too.
Last but not least: Hatchy, OP was updated. Welcome to our Hall of Fame!! Keep up! |
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Do you ever feel like that being after saving or investing for future you forget to live in the present? You don't buy the things you want to or don't go after experiences you want because you'd rather save/invest for future instead.
Absolutely. Future is uncertain, so it is better to start saving as soon as possible, just in case. I see how friends of mine spend all the money they earn every month because they "don't work all day to want something and not buy it", but I'm happy valuing immaterial things, and trying to achieve financial freedom someday. In the end you end up liking the stoic taste taken in the act of holding back yourself and saving or investing instead of spending. Dreaming with future promises is something very pleasurable too. |
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If the offline version is that much reputable then the owner behind it must be doing the maintenance on his own while he must have appointed a different group who are capable to operate into online section. Also, there's the fact about age range. Most people who are gambling online are those who knows how to deal with internet. They are much younger. There could be people who are older, but the amount is low when it comes to gambling online.
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It depends on the country where you live. I think that in most developed countries, thanks to advertisements in different platforms (TV, social media) I think that almost anyone can gamble online, except vary rare cases of very old people. Today we have Apps almost for everything, and those casinos that are only reachable via web aren't much harder to find either. |
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Hey Porf!
I'd like to change my testimony from OP. Are you so kind, please, to change the following part?
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wow Gazeta! that is a very impressive achievement and i was not aware that you had translated the bitcoin whitepaper on bitcoin.org until now  👍 btw @Porfirii why can't i find a testimony to my user?  We wrote them when we created the Alliance and since then we haven't updated it. Tell me the one you want and I'll add it below  Gazeta, I'm also updating yours right now. And, of course, if any other AoBTer wants to add or change any testimony, let me know. So fast! OK, I'll create the new link and add add a link to your translation. Thank you |
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I often read people saying they want to earn enough money so they don't have to look at price tag of product. Imo, even if you are rich you wouldn't want to spend money on things that are not worthy of price being paid.
That mindset by the people you read shows a wrong approach, the one a person focused on consuming would show. If I was rich, I wouldn't want to spend more than what is good, independently on being worth the price asked or not. Just look at how calm and happy are minimalists. I don't mean to get to such an extreme, but to a balance between that and the other one, more obvious, followed by the majority. Most people think: if I was rich I would buy... but only a few think: of I was rich, how happily would I live being financially free, and how many people would I be able to make happy too... |
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Thank you gagux123! Just one more translation and we'll be able to move it to finished translations. Russian, Indonesian, Filipino, Italian and Arabic are still available (I'm sure that I'm forgetting some others); who will be the first one? zasad@?? Kavelj22??? Yatsan?  As soon as we make it, I'll add the one proposed by iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2 as translation in progress for those waiting for new interesting material to translate.
Hatchy, this weekend at the latest, I promise
Yatsan, Peanutswar, Ale88, and a couple more: you didn't take part in the vote. Please, let me know your answer so I can add it to the record, or share it with the rest of the members directly answering the group message. |
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What step are you having problems with specifically? Binance account verification is very straightforward and they have instructions for every step anyway that even my non-savvy parents can follow the instructions easily.
That is true, so I don't know what advice he wants from "experienced and senior brothers in this forum" Is he/she looking for a method to bypass KYC fast, maybe through identity fraud? I don't think that this is the philosophy of most members of the forum (or maybe I'm not so senior, but I don't think that is the problem). So who knows, maybe he/she was simply asking how to verify identity, that can be done without coming to a specialized forum, or maybe someone understands what he really means and contact him/her in private. OP, if your intentions are good, beware of possible scam attempts in your inbox. If they're not, consider getting back on the right track before it's too late. |
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Concerning the discussion of "the more tickets one buys, the better the chances of that person winning" we can draw an example from Freebitco's lottery system, where we see that people with such a few hundred tickets end up winning the jackpot, while those with millions of tickets end up winning just a tiny amount of bitcoin, and sometimes, nothing at all. You gave a very appropriate example and I'm sure most people here can understand what you are saying about the fact that the number of tickets we have will not provide any guarantee, even an almost small chance of getting a big jackpot. I might also buy a lottery ticket but I hardly think about buying more tickets to get a bigger chance because I think if I play the same slot based on luck, I rarely get a win, especially in the lottery it will definitely be very difficult so I choose to buy a ticket with small value just to try your luck. In fact, those who buy many tickets is because they are seeing it more like an investment than a bet. But according to maths, it is a terrible investment. Looking at a bigger picture, in the long run those who buy millions of tickets should win more often. The problem is that the chances are still so small in terms of probability that it can only be seen in the very long run, with billions (trillions? more?) of bets. So, for an individual player, it is practically the same to buy 1 ticket than many, because the chances if they buy 10 tickets for example go from being hit 200 times by a lightning to 20, which won't happen either, but they spent ten times more. And if they buy 100 tickets, they won't be hit two times by a lightning either before winning. You follow me, right? So tusandii and Fivestar4everMVP explained it very well, and more lottery tickets is never, IMO, a better option than just one. |
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Espero que lo que comenta albert0bsd no sea real, o por lo menos se trate de un caso excepcional, porque como sea algo más generalizado, además de la desgracia que va a suponer para muchos hodlers (literalmente la ruina), puede crear pánico en un momento clave en el ciclo de mercado.
Al leer el título del hilo pensé que se trataría de un caso español o latinoamericano. Reconforta (no mucho, pero algo), ver que se trata de otro caso. Al fin y al cabo el mundo es grande y los casos extraordinarios, de ser ciertos, deberían tomarse como lo que son: una rareza.
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This clearly shows that the scammers are always one step ahead. They impersonated someone whom everyone in Crypto trusts, so when he says to do something, they do.
Sad for those who lost nearly $50,000. Kudos to the scammer for being so innovative, creating an account with a similar name, and still not being flagged by Zachxbt himself.
The domain sounds original to be very honest like that's what it's meant to do.
The scammer could better use his/her creative skills in something more productive (not only for him I mean, because the loot was large...). I hope that those who were scammed could afford to lose that money. I wonder if the social media platform itself can be made responsible of the loss for not establishing more strict security measures. |
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Dears, don't hesitate and use the scissors whenever you need it. It is a practice in line with the recommendations of the forum, which makes it much easier for others to follow the conversations that you are holding, and I don't think that anyone will feel offended if you cut the dispensable parts |
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Tranquilo darbitmobilerecovery que te expresas muy bien, y el que no te entienda es que no empleó el tiempo suficiente en leerte. En mi caso no sé si hablaría de tanto como enamoramiento, pero también le tengo un cierto cariño al aspecto que ya podríamos calificar de retro del foro. En otro orden de cosas, buena matización con lo de que es el tipo del avatar que se lame la teta me has alegrado el día fM. En cuanto a los Bitcoins donados habría que ver si realmente se quería hacer una donación condicional, condicionada valga la redundancia al desarrollo del sitio. Si es así se podría exigir la devolución, al igual que en el caso de una subvención en la que no se justificaran los gastos. Pero hay dos problemas: el primero, que al parecer no se fijaron claramente los límites de la condición; y, el segundo, que no es para nada lo mismo devolver 2 BTC o los que sean a devolver el valor que tenían en 2014. En el caso de MtGox no recuerdo cómo resolvieron lo de la devolución al final, creo que en Bitcoins, pero no creo que haya fijado antecedente como para obligar a hacerlo así en todas las devoluciones. |
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Bueno, pues habrá que esperar a esa página web en construcción. Yo también soy más partidario de los medios de resolución de controversias pacíficos pero, por lo que veo, sí que se está complicando la cosa de mala manera.
Quién sabe, quizá todo esto sirva para que finalmente veamos mejoras en el foro: aunque a mí no me disgusta tal y como está, no cabe duda de que no resulta muy atractivo viendo las tendencias de hoy en día. Se podrían hacer muchas cosas más allá de una UX más atractiva y funcionalidades nuevas (vídeo embebido, por ejemplo), como integrar una cartera (no custodial) y que además de méritos se pudieran enviar satoshis con la misma facilidad. Y quitando todos estos sueños, que visto lo visto suenan más a ciencia ficción que otra cosa, si solo se invirtiera en SEM/SEO y se le diera un buen arreo a todo esto... no será porque la petición no se haya repetido hasta la saciedad.
Bueno, pues estaremos al tanto de las novedades. Al parecer no parece que vaya a tener unas repercusiones tan graves como me había imaginado en un principio al leer el OP. Gracias Mr. Peter y Ddmr2 por compartir y mantenernos al día.
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