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February 27, 2019, 03:20:38 PM
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LOL! Haven't you figure out that life and death both are the effects of causes? Consider the Mom and Dad cause that life is the effect of, and the flying bullet that death is the effect of. However, I'm glad you are finally starting to think a little.

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No, I haven't figured it about life and death yet, and I don't believe anyone who says otherwise. when talking about these 2 realities.

Don't confuse Life with Birth. Birth is one remarkable aspect of life but not the only one. Life is more complicated than "Mom and dad cause" metaphor.

The world is not one specific country where anyone can keep guns in their backpack.

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February 27, 2019, 03:55:26 PM
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~snip~

LOL! Haven't you figure out that life and death both are the effects of causes? Consider the Mom and Dad cause that life is the effect of, and the flying bullet that death is the effect of. However, I'm glad you are finally starting to think a little.

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No, I haven't figured it about life and death yet, and I don't believe anyone who says otherwise. when talking about these 2 realities.
But everything that we scientifically know of, operates in the universe by cause and effect, even life and death, right? I mean, if you don't breathe, you die. If you breathe, you live, except if something kills you in some other way, right? Cause and effect.



Don't confuse Life with Birth. Birth is one remarkable aspect of life but not the only one. Life is more complicated than "Mom and dad cause" metaphor.
All you need to do is read what I said, rather than assume that I meant something else. Don't confuse what I said with what is in your mind. I never said anything about birth.

You suggest I shouldn't confuse a couple of things. But there are a billion things that can be confused. Why not state the other 999,999,999 of them, as well? - metaphor. All of them operate by cause and effect... scientifically speaking.



The world is not one specific country where anyone can keep guns in their backpack.

Are you saying that that if a person doesn't have a backpack that he can't have a gun?

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February 27, 2019, 05:45:40 PM
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^^^ This is a good point. But not all religious people follow this point.

What should you do if people of a different religion attack you? Should you maintain peace by letting them kill you? Or should you fight them to protect your life and your religion... to say nothing about protecting your family?

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That is why it is important that citizen law and police force need to stay neutral and protect people, punish the one try to harm others. There are not reasons anyone can use any religious to harm others, if yes then nee to treat as a criminal case and face jail punishment
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February 28, 2019, 12:56:54 AM
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^^^ This is a good point. But not all religious people follow this point.

What should you do if people of a different religion attack you? Should you maintain peace by letting them kill you? Or should you fight them to protect your life and your religion... to say nothing about protecting your family?

Cool

That is what Jesus did.  Follow Jesus, LOL.

No, that isn't what Jesus did. Here's what Jesus did. Luke 4:28-30:
28All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard this. 29They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him off the cliff. 30But he walked right through the crowd and went on his way.

More than likely Jesus didn't have a gun. Did He use karate or some other form of martial arts? Did he slip into another dimension; could the people see Him? Did He turn Himself into a solid iron-like mass that they couldn't resist? Did He simply freeze all the people? Did He cause them to fall to the ground like He did the mob that came out to arrest Him in John 18?

Again you show your lack of understanding of the Bible. No wonder you aren't saved. You misunderstood all the teaching you received.

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^^^ This is a good point. But not all religious people follow this point.

What should you do if people of a different religion attack you? Should you maintain peace by letting them kill you? Or should you fight them to protect your life and your religion... to say nothing about protecting your family?

Cool

That is what Jesus did.  Follow Jesus, LOL.

No, that isn't what Jesus did. Here's what Jesus did. Luke 4:28-30:
28All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard this. 29They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him off the cliff. 30But he walked right through the crowd and went on his way.

More than likely Jesus didn't have a gun. Did He use karate or some other form of martial arts? Did he slip into another dimension; could the people see Him? Did He turn Himself into a solid iron-like mass that they couldn't resist? Did He simply freeze all the people? Did He cause them to fall to the ground like He did the mob that came out to arrest Him in John 18?

Again you show your lack of understanding of the Bible. No wonder you aren't saved. You misunderstood all the teaching you received.

Cool

https://youtu.be/Z2agGEqgigA

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February 28, 2019, 04:23:54 PM
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^^^ This is a good point. But not all religious people follow this point.

What should you do if people of a different religion attack you? Should you maintain peace by letting them kill you? Or should you fight them to protect your life and your religion... to say nothing about protecting your family?

Cool

That is what Jesus did.  Follow Jesus, LOL.

No, that isn't what Jesus did. Here's what Jesus did. Luke 4:28-30:
28All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard this. 29They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him off the cliff. 30But he walked right through the crowd and went on his way.

More than likely Jesus didn't have a gun. Did He use karate or some other form of martial arts? Did he slip into another dimension; could the people see Him? Did He turn Himself into a solid iron-like mass that they couldn't resist? Did He simply freeze all the people? Did He cause them to fall to the ground like He did the mob that came out to arrest Him in John 18?

Again you show your lack of understanding of the Bible. No wonder you aren't saved. You misunderstood all the teaching you received.

Cool

https://youtu.be/Z2agGEqgigA

Gonna leave this here.

You misunderstand with your video. God authorizes everything... the righteous for salvation, and the wicked for a day of judgment.

Why does God authorize everything? Because He made things righteous, gave himself to mankind to make the wishes of mankind into reality. It was mankind that started to use unrighteous wishes, not God.

God does things with His strength. This is why He doesn't change from doing the things that people wish for Him to do, even when the things are evil... even though He hates the evil.

Ultimately this universe will be destroyed as though it never existed. The last an ungodly person will see of this universe is when he/she dies. The next thing he will see is the judgment.

A righteous person, at death, will receive a temporary spiritual body, with which he will be able to see the good of the universe, but won't be affected by the bad.

When God finally destroys the universe and replaces it with the new universe, the ungodly will go into the destruction of this universe, but the godly will go into the new universe where evil will never be able to happen again.

This stuff is in the Bible, though not all of it in one place.

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February 28, 2019, 06:22:32 PM
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^^^ This is a good point. But not all religious people follow this point.

What should you do if people of a different religion attack you? Should you maintain peace by letting them kill you? Or should you fight them to protect your life and your religion... to say nothing about protecting your family?

Cool

That is what Jesus did.  Follow Jesus, LOL.

No, that isn't what Jesus did. Here's what Jesus did. Luke 4:28-30:
28All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard this. 29They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him off the cliff. 30But he walked right through the crowd and went on his way.

More than likely Jesus didn't have a gun. Did He use karate or some other form of martial arts? Did he slip into another dimension; could the people see Him? Did He turn Himself into a solid iron-like mass that they couldn't resist? Did He simply freeze all the people? Did He cause them to fall to the ground like He did the mob that came out to arrest Him in John 18?

Again you show your lack of understanding of the Bible. No wonder you aren't saved. You misunderstood all the teaching you received.

Cool

https://youtu.be/Z2agGEqgigA

Gonna leave this here.

You misunderstand with your video. God authorizes everything...

I never thought you would agree that God 'authorizes' babies to be born with HIV or with open spines.

Nice plan, LOL. 

How you make sense of all of this is beyond me.

BTW, why is your God a sadistic killer? 

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
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February 28, 2019, 08:30:38 PM
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You misunderstand with your video. God authorizes everything...

I never thought you would agree that God 'authorizes' babies to be born with HIV or with open spines.

Nice plan, LOL. 

How you make sense of all of this is beyond me.

BTW, why is your God a sadistic killer? 

Did you notice how you scrapped most of what I said in the post that you quoted? Then you turned what I said into something I didn't say.

God is almighty. God is love. In love God made everything. In almightiness God controls everything. God controls it for good.

In love God set things up so that people could control aspects of His almighty strength so that people could have greatness similar in ways to God's. When people do wrong, they are simply using God's power for things that God didn't want to happen, and really, never even imagined.

God is a wonderful maker of life. He made life the first time, and when people bring about death in the way that they use God's power, God will save the memory of all things for the resurrection.

Pain and death, though they seem terrifying and destructive, are vain. They will all be destroyed in death and the coming destruction. They will never be remembered or brought to mind again. The resurrection is all that counts.

If you continue in your mindset against God, if you do not change before you die, you will never be able to change. In the resurrection, God will give you what you asked for... to be away from God and good. You will be destroyed along with this universe. Your choice, a gift from God, that you are able to choose.

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February 28, 2019, 10:53:03 PM
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^^^ This is a good point. But not all religious people follow this point.

What should you do if people of a different religion attack you? Should you maintain peace by letting them kill you? Or should you fight them to protect your life and your religion... to say nothing about protecting your family?

Cool

That is what Jesus did.  Follow Jesus, LOL.

No, that isn't what Jesus did. Here's what Jesus did. Luke 4:28-30:
28All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard this. 29They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him off the cliff. 30But he walked right through the crowd and went on his way.

More than likely Jesus didn't have a gun. Did He use karate or some other form of martial arts? Did he slip into another dimension; could the people see Him? Did He turn Himself into a solid iron-like mass that they couldn't resist? Did He simply freeze all the people? Did He cause them to fall to the ground like He did the mob that came out to arrest Him in John 18?

Again you show your lack of understanding of the Bible. No wonder you aren't saved. You misunderstood all the teaching you received.

Cool

https://youtu.be/Z2agGEqgigA

Gonna leave this here.

You misunderstand with your video. God authorizes everything...

I never thought you would agree that God 'authorizes' babies to be born with HIV or with open spines.

Nice plan, LOL. 

How you make sense of all of this is beyond me.

BTW, why is your God a sadistic killer? 

Personally I'm gonna start killing babies, after all, logically, it's the best we can do, right?

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March 01, 2019, 12:00:05 AM
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each person has their own opinion , so judging each other to make other people trust that you are the right one is absolutely not good.

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For me, our experiences are different and what can make one utterly turn out on religion is multiple. Like Betrayal from a trusted religious friend. But for me, people hate religion because of the commandments or rules that goes with each creed. Many like freedom and they feel religion tends to bound and restrict them. But religions such as Christianity don't have bothersome rules....
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In my personal experience, it's always the religious folk that beat their children senseless. I know a married couple and they're both Atheist, and they don't hit their kids(Only going so far as a slap on the wrist), and there children are the most well-behaved I have ever seen.

When I was growing up, you'd hear horror stories of my friends Italian parents beating them with broom sticks and belts, and half of those guys are on drugs or entirely broke now. Don't even mention the various nuns in Ireland that worked the girls sent to their monasteries to death. Religious people are the worst example of parents in my experience(At least concerning Christianity, don't know about other religions in that personal regard).
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Nobody lives without religion.

People who use formal religion to harm other people are generally liars and criminals, because most formal religions have the good of people in mind... technically, in their writings and in the way they should be practiced.

People who have a religion of goodness and love, though it is not any formal religion, do better than crooks who use formal religion to do bad things.

Most formal religions have good people in them, who prove their goodness by doing good things.

No matter how good a person might be, in either his formal religion, or in his personal religion, if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.

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Nobody lives without religion.

People who use formal religion to harm other people are generally liars and criminals, because most formal religions have the good of people in mind... technically, in their writings and in the way they should be practiced.

People who have a religion of goodness and love, though it is not any formal religion, do better than crooks who use formal religion to do bad things.

Most formal religions have good people in them, who prove their goodness by doing good things.

No matter how good a person might be, in either his formal religion, or in his personal religion, if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.

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''if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.''

Take a moment to read this folks.

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Nobody lives without religion.

People who use formal religion to harm other people are generally liars and criminals, because most formal religions have the good of people in mind... technically, in their writings and in the way they should be practiced.

People who have a religion of goodness and love, though it is not any formal religion, do better than crooks who use formal religion to do bad things.

Most formal religions have good people in them, who prove their goodness by doing good things.

No matter how good a person might be, in either his formal religion, or in his personal religion, if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.

Cool

''if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.''

Take a moment to read this folks.

Sometimes the true colors of his mental illness come out.  Most of the time he manages to hide it behind 'being religious'.

The sad part is he does not know that he is mentally ill, but then again, not many mental patients do.

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
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Nobody lives without religion.

People who use formal religion to harm other people are generally liars and criminals, because most formal religions have the good of people in mind... technically, in their writings and in the way they should be practiced.

People who have a religion of goodness and love, though it is not any formal religion, do better than crooks who use formal religion to do bad things.

Most formal religions have good people in them, who prove their goodness by doing good things.

No matter how good a person might be, in either his formal religion, or in his personal religion, if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.

Cool

''if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.''

Take a moment to read this folks.

Sometimes the true colors of his mental illness come out.  Most of the time he manages to hide it behind 'being religious'.

The sad part is he does not know that he is mentally ill, but then again, not many mental patients do.

Thanks, you guys. Perhaps now everybody will see and understand how important God is - Who holds your life and all that you think and do in His hands.

I'm kinda amazed that you do not at least revere Him, if not downright fear Him.

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Their point of view in life is far different from us so it's really hard to explain why they hate religion. But, i have a friend of mine, he pretends atheist because he just want an attention by his parents and friends hahhaha!
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Nobody lives without religion.

People who use formal religion to harm other people are generally liars and criminals, because most formal religions have the good of people in mind... technically, in their writings and in the way they should be practiced.

People who have a religion of goodness and love, though it is not any formal religion, do better than crooks who use formal religion to do bad things.

Most formal religions have good people in them, who prove their goodness by doing good things.

No matter how good a person might be, in either his formal religion, or in his personal religion, if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.

Cool

''if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.''

Take a moment to read this folks.

Sometimes the true colors of his mental illness come out.  Most of the time he manages to hide it behind 'being religious'.

The sad part is he does not know that he is mentally ill, but then again, not many mental patients do.

Thanks, you guys. Perhaps now everybody will see and understand how important God is - Who holds your life and all that you think and do in His hands.

I'm kinda amazed that you do not at least revere Him, if not downright fear Him.

Cool

Hmm, I think they will only see how insane you are.

It's hard for me to understand why an eternal, all knowing, all powerful being would even care about us, denying or not his existence.

You are literally saying a child rapist and murderer that kills 1 million children and rapes them but accepts god is better than a guy who has no money but still gives 90% of his money to charities but denies god.

What happened to all the, you should not kill, rape etc etc? I guess those laws are useless because as long as you accept god, you are fine.

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Nobody lives without religion.

People who use formal religion to harm other people are generally liars and criminals, because most formal religions have the good of people in mind... technically, in their writings and in the way they should be practiced.

People who have a religion of goodness and love, though it is not any formal religion, do better than crooks who use formal religion to do bad things.

Most formal religions have good people in them, who prove their goodness by doing good things.

No matter how good a person might be, in either his formal religion, or in his personal religion, if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.

Cool

''if he denies the existence of God, he is fundamentally worse than if he had been the worst kind of criminal who understood and accepted the existence of God. Why? Because God is way more important that anything else, and all other things combined.''

Take a moment to read this folks.

Sometimes the true colors of his mental illness come out.  Most of the time he manages to hide it behind 'being religious'.

The sad part is he does not know that he is mentally ill, but then again, not many mental patients do.

Thanks, you guys. Perhaps now everybody will see and understand how important God is - Who holds your life and all that you think and do in His hands.

I'm kinda amazed that you do not at least revere Him, if not downright fear Him.

Cool

Respect him, fear him?

Do you revere or fear wolf from the Red Riding Hood?

You don't get it.  You have been brainwashed to fear the idea of hell, God, spirits etc.

The reality is that all of these ideas are fictional.  There is no hell, no God, no souls, end of story.  Lights out.

Your 'God' is only in your mind, nowhere else.

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
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Thanks, you guys. Perhaps now everybody will see and understand how important God is - Who holds your life and all that you think and do in His hands.

I'm kinda amazed that you do not at least revere Him, if not downright fear Him.

Cool

Hmm, I think they will only see how insane you are. - Since you are against God, you would say something like that. But God knows where you are in your life.

It's hard for me to understand why an eternal, all knowing, all powerful being would even care about us, denying or not his existence. - You just don't get it. Jesus was God and man, together. When He died, both the man part of Him died, and the God part of Him. When He was raised by the glory of the Father who cannot die, both parts of Him were raised. In doing this, he is extending God-qualities to all mankind.

What does this mean? It means that when you use your God-qualities to be against God, you are also being against yourself. It's the God-qualities that all people have that they are using to do their evil. God, Himself, being stronger than all people (because people are also man/woman), will, in the judgment, at the resurrection, give people what they asked for when they used their God-qualities to ask... Heaven or Hell.


You are literally saying a child rapist and murderer that kills 1 million children and rapes them but accepts god is better than a guy who has no money but still gives 90% of his money to charities but denies god. - Yes, if the criminal accepts Jesus salvation when he accepts God, and not ony knows that God exists. However, the guy who did good in this life but didn't believe in God, will be punished in Hell less than an evildoer who didn't believe in God.

What happened to all the, you should not kill, rape etc etc? I guess those laws are useless because as long as you accept god, you are fine. - Why do you think that this stuff is gone? It's right where it always has been. Some people break the law without knowledge of what they are doing. Some do it on purpose. Everybody will be judged according what he has done. This means, the saved person who did great evil in his life on earth, will hold a far lower position in Heaven than a person who does good on earth and makes it to Heaven.


God is the accurate and righteous judge regarding all of the above. God can't be rejected. Rejecting God is really only rejecting yourself.

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