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May 31, 2018, 06:15:28 AM
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Atheism is a conspiracy, liars who hate God because they're criminals convincing gullible and weak minds that nothing exploded one day and created everything. They hate being judged for their crimes so they hate any group that has any kind of moral code. This hate gets instilled in the Atheist by the liar who hates God for being judged.

Being critical of the atheist doesn't get at the root of the problem, the liar who hates God and who is waging a war on God needs to be dealt with.
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May 31, 2018, 07:15:24 AM
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So we've got sombody (af_newbie) who claims to be an engineer yet doesn't understand vectors or the concept of polarization nor can he conceive that air pressure pushes a helium balloon up. Yet this master of electrical forces wants you to believe the unproven theory of gravity is an undisputable fact.

Is he a member of the tribe of liars who wage war on God or is he just a child confused by their lies?
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May 31, 2018, 01:08:14 PM
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So we've got sombody (af_newbie) who claims to be an engineer yet doesn't understand vectors or the concept of polarization nor can he conceive that air pressure pushes a helium balloon up. Yet this master of electrical forces wants you to believe the unproven theory of gravity is an undisputable fact.

Is he a member of the tribe of liars who wage war on God or is he just a child confused by their lies?

Let's stick to the ground shall we...

PS. Moved this discussion to
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.11500
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May 31, 2018, 01:16:04 PM
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PS. I'm just being entertained.  I feel like I am talking to a small child, but I'm being sincere to point out the fallacies in you logic to lead you out of your madness.  I tried to do the same thing with CoinCube...

If you want to spend time debating with flat earth advocates kindly leave me out of it. I am very much on record as opposing this ideology and have no further interest in the matter.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg16144860#msg16144860
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg16145645#msg16145645
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg16146486#msg16146486
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg16187200#msg16187200
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg16188408#msg16188408
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg16201212#msg16201212

For my efforts a flat earth advocate made me this little souvenir picture.




Don't be a CoinCube. Research flat earth.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22flat+earth%22


I did not mean to say that you are a flat Earther.  You are "an infinite Entity that influences everything on Earth" believer.  Just as irrational as
the flat Earther.  Sorry about the confusion.
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May 31, 2018, 01:42:33 PM
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Because they think the earth is flat .

The polar night occurs in the northernmost and southernmost regions of the Earth when the night lasts for more than 24 hours. This occurs only inside the polar circles. The opposite phenomenon, the polar day, or midnight sun, occurs when the Sun stays above the horizon ... While it is day in the Arctic Circle it is night in the Antarctic Circle..

How does this happen if the earth is flat Religious peoples? .
I suppose it can't unless the earth is a globe.
notabatman i think he knows the earth is a globe BUT is some mad full stop

JUST SOME MAD Cheesy what ever his agenda is it's just some mad  Undecided..

Those countries like china who get rid of religion they will thrive ..
Those peoples will dream of space and new technologies that the earth will want to buy so good luck to china
for coming into the 21st century ..

Just the Chinese need to be free and they cracked it a universal income for all then the world will be better..
Hope and praying don't pay the bills ..

Getting off our butts pays the bills ..

Universal income is not the same as Universal credit   <Credit they take it away <Income you keep it no matter what ..

When they say universal credit if you find work they take that money away ..
When i say INCOME you keep it even if your worth billions ..

Your human right for a life  NOT praying for a life  but an actual income for life ..
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May 31, 2018, 02:40:24 PM
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So we've got sombody (af_newbie) who claims to be an engineer yet doesn't understand vectors or the concept of polarization nor can he conceive that air pressure pushes a helium balloon up. Yet this master of electrical forces wants you to believe the unproven theory of gravity is an undisputable fact.

Is he a member of the tribe of liars who wage war on God or is he just a child confused by their lies?

Let's stick to the ground shall we.  You said that electric field lines go straight down to push objects to the ground, right?  They would have point straight down in your model otherwise a 200 lbs person in Argentina and would weigh more when he traveled to Canada.

Why there are more electric field lines going through more dense objects than through lighter ones?  Gold vs steel, red oak vs pine blocks.

What happens when the objects move to other places does the electric field moves with the object?

Your car weighs the same as you drive it, so electric field would have to follow it to keep the pinning down force (weight) the same, no?

Does this make sense to you?  What causes the electric field to be non-uniform, constantly changing as people move around objects on the ground.  The charges on the dome and the ground would have to be constantly adjusted to maintain the pinning down forces the same everywhere on the disk, all in real-time.  Who would be doing the adjustments?  God?

Why a negatively charged object placed on the ground (that you said is negatively charged) does not weigh less?

PS. Moved this discussion to
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.11500



You keep strawmaning my statements i.e. I stated the displaced atmosphere pushes objects down and the electric field dictates the magnitude (density of field lines) and direction (orientation of field lines).

My point being the foundations of atheism are based on questionable science i.e. the unproven theory of gravity being one tenant and that religion isn't involved in a science vs. religion debate, but is a group of criminals conspiring to suppress any group that openly promotes any kind of morality. Atheism is pseudo-theism and falls apart under scrutiny.

This discussion is getting off-topic so before our mod de jure births a live cow, I'll do my best to answer any questions about why helium balloons are pushed up or bars of gold are pushed down in the off-topic/Flat Earth thread. The physics involved most definitely requires a flat & motionless Earth with an electrified dome.


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May 31, 2018, 06:19:07 PM
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So we've got sombody (af_newbie) who claims to be an engineer yet doesn't understand vectors or the concept of polarization nor can he conceive that air pressure pushes a helium balloon up. Yet this master of electrical forces wants you to believe the unproven theory of gravity is an undisputable fact.

Is he a member of the tribe of liars who wage war on God or is he just a child confused by their lies?

Let's stick to the ground shall we.  You said that electric field lines go straight down to push objects to the ground, right?  They would have point straight down in your model otherwise a 200 lbs person in Argentina and would weigh more when he traveled to Canada.

Why there are more electric field lines going through more dense objects than through lighter ones?  Gold vs steel, red oak vs pine blocks.

What happens when the objects move to other places does the electric field moves with the object?

Your car weighs the same as you drive it, so electric field would have to follow it to keep the pinning down force (weight) the same, no?

Does this make sense to you?  What causes the electric field to be non-uniform, constantly changing as people move around objects on the ground.  The charges on the dome and the ground would have to be constantly adjusted to maintain the pinning down forces the same everywhere on the disk, all in real-time.  Who would be doing the adjustments?  God?

Why a negatively charged object placed on the ground (that you said is negatively charged) does not weigh less?

PS. Moved this discussion to
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.11500



You keep strawmaning my statements i.e. I stated the displaced atmosphere pushes objects down and the electric field dictates the magnitude (density of field lines) and direction (orientation of field lines).

My point being the foundations of atheism are based on questionable science i.e. the unproven theory of gravity being one tenant and that religion isn't involved in a science vs. religion debate, but is a group of criminals conspiring to suppress any group that openly promotes any kind of morality. Atheism is pseudo-theism and falls apart under scrutiny.

This discussion is getting off-topic so before our mod de jure births a live cow, I'll do my best to answer any questions about why helium balloons are pushed up or bars of gold are pushed down in the off-topic/Flat Earth thread. The physics involved most definitely requires a flat & motionless Earth with an electrified dome.




Atheism and gravity are not related.  They are in completely different fields.

Let's assume that your pressurized, electrified dome exist and gravity does not exist.

How do you explain that two identical in size blocks of wood one made of red oak the other made of pine, have different weight. They replace the same volume of air.

They are placed on the ground next to each other.

Please explain your theory.   From little you have said I understand that you think that positively charged air (oxygen and nitrogen) molecules will travel along perpendicular to the ground electrical field lines and exert force on all surfaces parallel to the ground.  Is that correct?

Don't be shy, I studied electrical engineering for 6 years, you can use whatever math you wish.  I'll be able to help you find mistakes in your reasoning or math.

Please answer why more dense objects on the ground weigh more than less dense objects weigh of the same size.

Assume that I am a firm believer in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour. If you think that makes any difference to your dome theory.
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May 31, 2018, 07:26:48 PM
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I did not mean to say that you are a flat Earther.  You are "an infinite Entity that influences everything on Earth" believer.  Just as irrational as
the flat Earther.  Sorry about the confusion.

All of your hyperbole implying the people you are debating with belong in insane asylums, your misuse of the world child abuse, and your attempts to strawman arguments by associating them with positions they are on the record as arguing vociferously against might sway a few shallow thinkers but they actually undermine your debate credibility.

I don't take offence when people choose to take a stick to a strawman. I also don't think you need to resort to such gimmicks to win your argument with notbatman.

Here is an article that will help you improve your debate skills.

Utilize the "Steel Man" Tactic to Argue More Effectively
https://lifehacker.com/utilize-the-steel-man-tactic-to-argue-more-effectivel-1632402742
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"Straw man arguments" are utilized in debates to undermine the opposition. If you want to take the high road–and debate more effectively in the process–utilize the "steel man" argument.

Contrary to some common misinterpretations, a straw man is employed when one side on an argument creates a false narrative and then argues with that, instead of the point a person actually made.
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The "steel man" is the opposite approach. As writer Robin Sloan explains, the steel man requires a debater to find the best form of her opponent's argument and then argue with this. Explain what you think your opponent means to them, ask them if they agree this is what they mean, and then argue with that. This is a tougher debate tactic because it allows for fewer shady arguments, but the result is a stance that holds up to scrutiny:

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May 31, 2018, 11:00:37 PM
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Atheism is a conspiracy, liars who hate God because they're criminals convincing gullible and weak minds that nothing exploded one day and created everything. They hate being judged for their crimes so they hate any group that has any kind of moral code. This hate gets instilled in the Atheist by the liar who hates God for being judged.

Being critical of the atheist doesn't get at the root of the problem, the liar who hates God and who is waging a war on God needs to be dealt with.

Mate, you realize that 99.99% of religious people also know the earth is not flat? This is not a matter of belief or not and while I agree that most religious people are quite gullible, they are not this gullible.



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^^^ One day nothing exploded for no particular reason and the shit from the explosion condensed into a ball due to the magic of gravity. The ball of shit then formed life for no particular reason that then evolved into monkeys who birthed humans.

This is the official atheist narrative and anybody who belives it is a gullible fool.
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^^^ One day nothing exploded for no particular reason and the shit from the explosion condensed into a ball due to the magic of gravity. The ball of shit then formed life for no particular reason that then evolved into monkeys who birthed humans.

This is the official atheist narrative and anybody who belives it is a gullible fool.

Can you please stop the recruitment to your flat Earth cult?

I have debunked your "no gravity theory" here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg39136223#msg39136223

Take some high-school Physics, then re-read my post.
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^^^ One day nothing exploded for no particular reason and the shit from the explosion condensed into a ball due to the magic of gravity. The ball of shit then formed life for no particular reason that then evolved into monkeys who birthed humans.

This is the official atheist narrative and anybody who belives it is a gullible fool.

Yes, it's much better to believe that nothing made everything in six or seven days than to believe nothing exploded and the Universe, Earth and life formed over millions of yearsRoll Eyes
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^^^ One day nothing exploded for no particular reason and the shit from the explosion condensed into a ball due to the magic of gravity. The ball of shit then formed life for no particular reason that then evolved into monkeys who birthed humans.

This is the official atheist narrative and anybody who belives it is a gullible fool.

Yes, it's much better to believe that nothing made everything in six or seven days than to believe nothing exploded and the Universe, Earth and life formed over millions of yearsRoll Eyes

Big bang is absence of nothing as well as all the stuff that supposedly came into being. Consider it well. What do you have when you don't have anything and you don't have nothing. That's essentially what big bang is all about. Is that what is easy to believe?

Isn't it a lot easier to believe that God lives in something like a universe that is way different than anything in our universe, and that He made our universe and everything in it, all in 6 days because of how much power He has?

But here is the really big question. WHY do you believe it one way or the other? Even Hawking just before he died expressed essentially that the "place" that big bang came from is completely unknown and not even knowable.

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^^^ One day nothing exploded for no particular reason and the shit from the explosion condensed into a ball due to the magic of gravity. The ball of shit then formed life for no particular reason that then evolved into monkeys who birthed humans.

This is the official atheist narrative and anybody who belives it is a gullible fool.

Yes, it's much better to believe that nothing made everything in six or seven days than to believe nothing exploded and the Universe, Earth and life formed over millions of yearsRoll Eyes

Big bang is absence of nothing as well as all the stuff that supposedly came into being. Consider it well. What do you have when you don't have anything and you don't have nothing. That's essentially what big bang is all about. Is that what is easy to believe?

Isn't it a lot easier to believe that God lives in something like a universe that is way different than anything in our universe, and that He made our universe and everything in it, all in 6 days because of how much power He has?

But here is the really big question. WHY do you believe it one way or the other? Even Hawking just before he died expressed essentially that the "place" that big bang came from is completely unknown and not even knowable.

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I used the word nothing in both cases in an attempt to highlight the flaw in notbatman's attempt to ridicule Atheists; the key point is not the word nothing.

It doesn't matter whether you believe in a Creator or the Big Bang, both require the existence of something outside of our known universe. The choice past the point of our universe's creation as to whether to believe in a Creator or Big Bang then becomes one of evidence. I personally fail to see any evidence of a supreme being's hand in anything that occurs around me in day to day life. On the other hand, I use humankind's collective knowledge on a day to day basis to understand, explain and interact with the things going on around me.

Now, you ask "Isn't it a lot easier to believe that God...". This is the fundamental issue I have with any religious faith, instead of using the words "I don't know" to explain a gap in their knowledge they replace it with "God/Allah/Jesus/<insert deity name here> did it". Imagine what the world we live in today would be like if no-one had searched for answers outside of religious texts.
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June 02, 2018, 05:55:56 PM
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^^^ One day nothing exploded for no particular reason and the shit from the explosion condensed into a ball due to the magic of gravity. The ball of shit then formed life for no particular reason that then evolved into monkeys who birthed humans.

This is the official atheist narrative and anybody who belives it is a gullible fool.

You realize that your narrative is far crazier right? Your narrative is that a supernatural being magically created everything from nothing and now observes us.



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June 03, 2018, 04:36:31 PM
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The phrase "atheists hate gods (AHG) is a fallacious anti-atheist argument which attempts to label atheism as a mere emotional opposition to gods, rather than a reasoned denial of the existence of said gods. Atheists do not deny the existence of god(s) because they "hate god(s)" or "want to live in sin", because atheists don't believe in these things, any more than Christians hate, say, the gods of Hinduism. If they're mad, generally they're pissed at something a religious person or group has done

That is the first rational explanation I read since August 2015 I'm following this thread.


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June 03, 2018, 06:45:37 PM
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In answer to the bit about religious leaders, let's try a thought experiment. Let's suppose your church is absolutely right, in every feature and detail. That means you and I can agree that all those OTHER believers--everyone who has viewed God differently than you do--has been mistaken. That's over 6 of the 7 billion alive today, and tens of billions through history believing in false gods.



Who could be behind all these false gods?



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June 04, 2018, 02:49:34 AM
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Atheist don't hate god, they just want to keep an equal relation with every god so that they don't get punished by any of them.
It's not just about not getting punished, it's about getting the good stuff.

Hey, don't forget the free handouts, various highs, and beer.
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June 17, 2018, 08:47:57 PM
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There is no stigma concerning the expressed dislike of the non-religious. While there is a stigma (to varying degrees, depending on one’s social milieu) attached to being racist, or anti-Semitic, or Islamophobic, or homophobic – there has never existed a social or cultural backlash against people who openly express disdain for secular folks. So people simply feel much more comfortable expressing their dislike for atheists than, say, Latinas/os or women.
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