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December 14, 2018, 10:09:34 AM |
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Who proved the multi dimensional spaghetti god doesn't exist?
No one, unless there were spaghetti angels that would tell you. You have a since of humor btw But if we are going to analyze it. Spaghetti were made out of something(milled wheat and water). By that said somebody or there is a being who created the spaghetti. Now if we can relate it to the issue of god's existence and the issue of life's essence is it just a common sense to think that there is a being who created everything makes sense? If you were talking about the flying spaghetti monster gospel that i cannot answer tho '' Now if we can relate it to the issue of god's existence and the issue of life's essence is it just a common sense to think that there is a being who created everything makes sense?'' Not necessarily common sense but it's definitely not crazy to think some being could have created us. I personally never rejected that possibility, however, why does it have to be your particular god and not the others? Why any god at all? Why not super intelligent aliens, etc etc.
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December 14, 2018, 10:59:53 AM |
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I don't think they hate it they just don't believe in it
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ATMD
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December 14, 2018, 11:08:04 AM |
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'' Why any god at all? Why not super intelligent aliens, etc etc.
I think Astargath, if we are to say this world was created by super intelligent aliens, it begs the question, "where do these super intelligent aliens come from?" the word "God" is given as a term to mean "the First Cause/Creator" who is eternal and has always existed
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December 14, 2018, 12:08:13 PM |
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'' Why any god at all? Why not super intelligent aliens, etc etc.
I think Astargath, if we are to say this world was created by super intelligent aliens, it begs the question, "where do these super intelligent aliens come from?" the word "God" is given as a term to mean "the First Cause/Creator" who is eternal and has always existed In another thread I tried to show Astargath the idea that God is outside of the universe... had to be to make it in the first place... although He may be within and without, now. Our whole thinking is universe oriented. We can't understand what outside-the-universe is like at all. We can't think in those parameters because of how "alien" outside is to us. All that outside is to us is one thing... outside. God is one. My thoughts on eternity are, that when we go to Heaven for eternity, we are simply being placed into a position of learning God, fully. Because of how great and different God is, it will literally take eternity for us to learn all of Him... even if He is with us to teach us. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Astargath
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December 14, 2018, 01:27:35 PM |
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'' Why any god at all? Why not super intelligent aliens, etc etc.
I think Astargath, if we are to say this world was created by super intelligent aliens, it begs the question, "where do these super intelligent aliens come from?" the word "God" is given as a term to mean "the First Cause/Creator" who is eternal and has always existed Yes the word ''god'' has that definition, which is an invented definition, just like an unicorn. God begs the question just as much as super intelligent aliens. Where does he come from? Then religious people invent some more and say, oh he was always there, as if they knew that, of course they don't.
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December 15, 2018, 12:58:23 AM |
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Astargath
You are right, the word "God" begs the question just as much as super intelligent aliens, people invent this word to represent the concept of First Creator. Other languages use a different word for the same concept.
Whether they know God or not is a matter of experience. For people who have experienced God, they know God exists. For people who have never experienced God, they don't believe the testimonies of people who have.
This is my understanding.
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darklus123
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December 15, 2018, 01:15:56 AM |
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'' Now if we can relate it to the issue of god's existence and the issue of life's essence is it just a common sense to think that there is a being who created everything makes sense?'' Not necessarily common sense but it's definitely not crazy to think some being could have created us. I personally never rejected that possibility, however, why does it have to be your particular god and not the others? Why any god at all? Why not super intelligent aliens, etc etc.
Well, even I am a Christian, I don't agree to everything that our priests says. I am now talking about the god that Einstein believes in pantheistic God of Baruch Spinoza. Which actually makes since. Sources : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinozism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_philosophical_views_of_Albert_EinsteinTho, since I am a Christian i consider this god as the god i believes in
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Astargath
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December 15, 2018, 10:44:29 AM |
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'' Now if we can relate it to the issue of god's existence and the issue of life's essence is it just a common sense to think that there is a being who created everything makes sense?'' Not necessarily common sense but it's definitely not crazy to think some being could have created us. I personally never rejected that possibility, however, why does it have to be your particular god and not the others? Why any god at all? Why not super intelligent aliens, etc etc.
Well, even I am a Christian, I don't agree to everything that our priests says. I am now talking about the god that Einstein believes in pantheistic God of Baruch Spinoza. Which actually makes since. Sources : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinozism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_philosophical_views_of_Albert_EinsteinTho, since I am a Christian i consider this god as the god i believes in I don't care what Einstein believed in. To a certain degree we all believe in all of sorts of ideas even though we can't prove them. They are just ideas, though, can't be proven, at least not now, you have to live in the real world, you can't live your life based on ideas.
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December 15, 2018, 12:54:52 PM |
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'' Now if we can relate it to the issue of god's existence and the issue of life's essence is it just a common sense to think that there is a being who created everything makes sense?'' Not necessarily common sense but it's definitely not crazy to think some being could have created us. I personally never rejected that possibility, however, why does it have to be your particular god and not the others? Why any god at all? Why not super intelligent aliens, etc etc.
Well, even I am a Christian, I don't agree to everything that our priests says. I am now talking about the god that Einstein believes in pantheistic God of Baruch Spinoza. Which actually makes since. Sources : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinozism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_philosophical_views_of_Albert_EinsteinTho, since I am a Christian i consider this god as the god i believes in I don't care what Einstein believed in. To a certain degree we all believe in all of sorts of ideas even though we can't prove them. They are just ideas, though, can't be proven, at least not now, you have to live in the real world, you can't live your life based on ideas. While there are all kinds of things that CAN'T be proven, there are some that can be, and there are some that leave one with a sense of pain even though proving them is not particularly easy. The Bible and Christianity makes sense. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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December 15, 2018, 04:02:59 PM |
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While there are all kinds of things that CAN'T be proven, there are some that can be, and there are some that leave one with a sense of pain even though proving them is not particularly easy. The Bible and Christianity makes sense. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Irreducibly complex
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December 15, 2018, 10:25:45 PM |
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While there are all kinds of things that CAN'T be proven, there are some that can be, and there are some that leave one with a sense of pain even though proving them is not particularly easy. The Bible and Christianity makes sense. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Irreducibly complex People are complex beings. The universe is more complex (except that the soul might be more complex than the universe). Is God complex? Or just different? Simply: - This universe will be destroyed someday, and... - the destruction will destroy the souls along with it, except... - if a person accepts Jesus salvation. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Astargath
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December 15, 2018, 11:24:35 PM |
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'' Now if we can relate it to the issue of god's existence and the issue of life's essence is it just a common sense to think that there is a being who created everything makes sense?'' Not necessarily common sense but it's definitely not crazy to think some being could have created us. I personally never rejected that possibility, however, why does it have to be your particular god and not the others? Why any god at all? Why not super intelligent aliens, etc etc.
Well, even I am a Christian, I don't agree to everything that our priests says. I am now talking about the god that Einstein believes in pantheistic God of Baruch Spinoza. Which actually makes since. Sources : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinozism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_philosophical_views_of_Albert_EinsteinTho, since I am a Christian i consider this god as the god i believes in I don't care what Einstein believed in. To a certain degree we all believe in all of sorts of ideas even though we can't prove them. They are just ideas, though, can't be proven, at least not now, you have to live in the real world, you can't live your life based on ideas. While there are all kinds of things that CAN'T be proven, there are some that can be, and there are some that leave one with a sense of pain even though proving them is not particularly easy. The Bible and Christianity makes sense. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) A lot of things make sense but are not true.
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darklus123
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December 16, 2018, 03:01:36 AM |
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I don't care what Einstein believed in. To a certain degree we all believe in all of sorts of ideas even though we can't prove them. They are just ideas, though, can't be proven, at least not now, you have to live in the real world, you can't live your life based on ideas.
Well, that is your idea. Sometimes you have to get the idea in order for you to understand or atleast know the possible mysteries that this world have. Knowing the ideas doesn't mean you have to live with it. You just need to open those doors. You might have no interest on that aspect but(looking for answers for any mystery is just an amazing thing and a part of the real world). Everyone is here for a great purpose not just because you were injected by your father to your mother
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darklus123
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December 16, 2018, 04:51:34 AM |
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Everyone?
What is your great purpose?
The purpose i have choosed is to help homeless people in my place in my own little ways (its either giving food to them or making them smile) Seriously, our purpose is to provide genetic diversity to our species.
ahmm, how about those who doesn't have capabilities to contribute? Some of us make significant contributions to arts, science or engineering while others are here to do exactly what you suggested, pass their genes to the next generation.
I agree on this one BTW, the idea (feeling) of 'God' changes over time. The more you know about how the world works the less 'God' ideas you need to fill the gaps in your knowledge.
Still can't agree with this one ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) , the more humans discovers something just leads to another looping questions or shall I say a new discoveries would leads us to new mysteries Eventually, you reach a point where the idea of God becomes ridiculous
Go back to me when we die and you have proved it.
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Astargath
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December 16, 2018, 11:15:30 AM |
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Everyone?
What is your great purpose?
The purpose i have choosed is to help homeless people in my place in my own little ways (its either giving food to them or making them smile) Seriously, our purpose is to provide genetic diversity to our species.
ahmm, how about those who doesn't have capabilities to contribute? Some of us make significant contributions to arts, science or engineering while others are here to do exactly what you suggested, pass their genes to the next generation.
I agree on this one BTW, the idea (feeling) of 'God' changes over time. The more you know about how the world works the less 'God' ideas you need to fill the gaps in your knowledge.
Still can't agree with this one ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) , the more humans discovers something just leads to another looping questions or shall I say a new discoveries would leads us to new mysteries Eventually, you reach a point where the idea of God becomes ridiculous
Go back to me when we die and you have proved it. It's true, the more science discovers, the more ridiculous religions look. We got rid of witches and possessions a long time ago, science proved those things were not real, just like the earth wasn't flat and other ridiculous things that are said in the bible.
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darklus123
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December 16, 2018, 12:00:08 PM |
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It's true, the more science discovers, the more ridiculous religions look. We got rid of witches and possessions a long time ago, science proved those things were not real, just like the earth wasn't flat and other ridiculous things that are said in the bible.
If you are going to read my above post. I am now not talking about the god of any type of religion. I am now talking about the god that Einstein believed in, which is more sensible IMO. I agree, witchcraft are proven by science and basically most of the scientists favors the facts. Ridiculously speaking is that even the greatest scientists believes in a god(not the god by religion) and have already concluded that it is impossible for us humans to prove whether there is or there isn't a being. Therefore, I consider atheism as no difference with any other type of religion since this type of belief only covers the absence of physical evidences by the god that other religions believed in
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December 16, 2018, 01:27:51 PM |
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It's true, the more science discovers, the more ridiculous religions look. We got rid of witches and possessions a long time ago, science proved those things were not real, just like the earth wasn't flat and other ridiculous things that are said in the bible.
If you are going to read my above post. I am now not talking about the god of any type of religion. I am now talking about the god that Einstein believed in, which is more sensible IMO. I agree, witchcraft are proven by science and basically most of the scientists favors the facts. Ridiculously speaking is that even the greatest scientists believes in a god(not the god by religion) and have already concluded that it is impossible for us humans to prove whether there is or there isn't a being. Therefore, I consider atheism as no difference with any other type of religion since this type of belief only covers the absence of physical evidences by the god that other religions believed in If you read the thread, Scientific proof that God exists? - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.0, you will see that Astargath is simply opposed to the idea of God. God could walk right up to him and give him a $million, or slap him in the face, or heal all his ills, or anything else, and still Astargath wouldn't accept that God exists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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December 16, 2018, 07:49:10 PM |
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Actually, the existence of God has been proven.
Obvious lie. To prove something you have to test it repeatedly with the same results.The god you have chosen forbids you to test him in any way. Your personal religion is all about dishonesty/fraud/pedophilia. There are many others to choose from.
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December 16, 2018, 07:52:08 PM |
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If you read the thread, No scientific proof that God exists! you will see that Astargath is simply opposed to the idea of God. God could walk right up to him and give him a $million, or slap him in the face, or heal all his ills, or anything else, and still Astargath wouldn't accept that God exists. I'm sure Astargath would realize he is dreaming and accept that the one god exists in his mind while he is sleeping. But he has to wake up sometime, and your particular god probably does not exist - but there is no way to prove either way. :/
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