Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[gabmen]

How do you know the others are false religions? They also say the same about yours, there is no way to know which religion is the true religion.

We have gone through this in the past. The thing that anyone can plainly see is that your religion of non-religion is about the stupidest religion of all.

I guess atheists see us that was as well. As you said dude, i've seen all different arguments about religion and no one, christians, muslims, atheists, are giving ground and the arguments just keep on going in circles lol. Atheists became atheists for their own reasons, like we christians are because of our own. I don't think we can change anybody's mind here.

[talkbits]

i can't fathom why those people have this kind of point of view in life, anyway, i'm still respecting them however, i am really wondering !

[talkbits]

"Humanities" needs no religion. Honestly I believe if we think it deeply that all the different religious person are same in blood then it will be pretty much easier to live on our society with different types of religious. Which is really important for us is that we are not animal, we are human. We are different from animals because we got the ability to think about rights and wrongs. If we conflict with each other then that difference is nothing but a simple word.

But religion guides people in the right path!

[Astargath]

How do you know the others are false religions? They also say the same about yours, there is no way to know which religion is the true religion.

We have gone through this in the past. The thing that anyone can plainly see is that your religion of non-religion is about the stupidest religion of all.

If it was the stupidest then why all statistics show that educated people tend towards atheism rather than any other religion? Nothing suggests that smart people chose religion over science, nothing, in fact scientists are the group with biggest percentage of atheists.

[CoinCube]

If it was the stupidest then why all statistics show that educated people tend towards atheism rather than any other religion? Nothing suggests that smart people chose religion over science, nothing, in fact scientists are the group with biggest percentage of atheists.

People with high IQ grow very confident in their ability to control the world and in their intellectual superiority over “lesser minds”. That leads to a tendency to reject inherited traditions as unwanted restraints from primitive times shackles placed upon them by their intellectual inferiors.

Like an intelligent teenager who rejects the rules of his school and parents because he wants to do his own thing and thinks he is smarter than his school teachers.

Ultimately it’s not a choice between science and religion that is a false dichotomy. The choice is between theism and a materialism which if embraced leads to nihilism.

[cpolkenami]

Atheists do not hate religion. I am an atheist, but I treat religion superficially. I do not think that it is necessary as something to it relates.

[Astargath]

If it was the stupidest then why all statistics show that educated people tend towards atheism rather than any other religion? Nothing suggests that smart people chose religion over science, nothing, in fact scientists are the group with biggest percentage of atheists.

People with high IQ grow very confident in their ability to control the world and in their intellectual superiority over “lesser minds”. That leads to a tendency to reject inherited traditions as unwanted restraints from primitive times shackles placed upon them by their intellectual inferiors.

Like an intelligent teenager who rejects the rules of his school and parents because he wants to do his own thing and thinks he is smarter than his school teachers.

Ultimately it’s not a choice between science and religion that is a false dichotomy. The choice is between theism and a materialism which if embraced leads to nihilism.

Do they? Aren't stupid people the ones who think they are smart and smart people the ones who tend to underestimate their abilities? Your argument is that people with high IQ think they are better? Well, they are, usually. What's your point, though?

[BADecker]

If it was the stupidest then why all statistics show that educated people tend towards atheism rather than any other religion? Nothing suggests that smart people chose religion over science, nothing, in fact scientists are the group with biggest percentage of atheists.

People with high IQ grow very confident in their ability to control the world and in their intellectual superiority over “lesser minds”. That leads to a tendency to reject inherited traditions as unwanted restraints from primitive times shackles placed upon them by their intellectual inferiors.

Like an intelligent teenager who rejects the rules of his school and parents because he wants to do his own thing and thinks he is smarter than his school teachers.

Ultimately it’s not a choice between science and religion that is a false dichotomy. The choice is between theism and a materialism which if embraced leads to nihilism.

Do they? Aren't stupid people the ones who think they are smart and smart people the ones who tend to underestimate their abilities? Your argument is that people with high IQ think they are better? Well, they are, usually. What's your point, though?

If you really want his point, all you need to do is read what he said... rather than interject all kinds of silly stuff, and then ask what his point was. It's right up above. Read it.

[af_newbie]

If it was the stupidest then why all statistics show that educated people tend towards atheism rather than any other religion? Nothing suggests that smart people chose religion over science, nothing, in fact scientists are the group with biggest percentage of atheists.

People with high IQ grow very confident in their ability to control the world and in their intellectual superiority over “lesser minds”. That leads to a tendency to reject inherited traditions as unwanted restraints from primitive times shackles placed upon them by their intellectual inferiors.

Like an intelligent teenager who rejects the rules of his school and parents because he wants to do his own thing and thinks he is smarter than his school teachers.

Ultimately it’s not a choice between science and religion that is a false dichotomy. The choice is between theism and a materialism which if embraced leads to nihilism.

The choice is between materialism and spiritualism (which can lead to the belief in the supernatural which in turn leads to theism).

BTW, materialism can also lead to existentialism and/or humanism; and theism can lead to nihilism if your deity views human life as worthless.

You suffer from myopic Christian vision.

[BADecker]

^^^ Your expressed view is quite unscientific. After all, science is starting to suggest that there is such a thing as a spirit in each one of us.

[CoinCube]

People with high IQ grow very confident in their ability to control the world and in their intellectual superiority over “lesser minds”. That leads to a tendency to reject inherited traditions as unwanted restraints from primitive times shackles placed upon them by their intellectual inferiors.

Like an intelligent teenager who rejects the rules of his school and parents because he wants to do his own thing and thinks he is smarter than his school teachers.

Ultimately it’s not a choice between science and religion that is a false dichotomy. The choice is between theism and a materialism which if embraced leads to nihilism.

The choice is between materialism and spiritualism (which can lead to the belief in the supernatural which in turn leads to theism).

BTW, materialism can also lead to existentialism and/or humanism; and theism can lead to nihilism if your deity views human life as worthless.

You suffer from myopic Christian vision.

I don't actually disagree with what you said here af_newbie well except for the part I struck out and the gratuitous insult at the end.

Spiritualism, however, does not have to lead to a belief in the supernatural. I don't believe in the supernatural. I think everything in the universe happens through cause and effect and there is a direct cause for every event. Those events that seem "supernatural" are simply events for which we don't understand the cause.

As for materialism leading to viewpoints distinct from nihilism. Well I am not a philosopher and I know they like to split hairs. Here is an excerpt from the wikipedia page on existentialism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism#Criticisms

Although nihilism and existentialism are distinct philosophies, they are often confused with one another as both are rooted in the human experience of anguish and confusion stemming from the apparent meaninglessness of a world in which humans are compelled to find or create meaning.[51] A primary cause of confusion is that Friedrich Nietzsche is an important philosopher in both fields. Existentialist philosophers often stress the importance of Angst as signifying the absolute lack of any objective ground for action, a move that is often reduced to a moral or an existential nihilism.

You know what they say if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck. Nevertheless if you want to call this vastly different from nihilism fine. The foundations seem very similar to me.

You may also be correct that a theism centered on a deity that views human life as worthless could lead to nihilism. However, I tend to think that such a religion would lead to something much worse then nihilism. John C. Wright wrote a superb book describing what it might look like. Its a fascinating read. I wrote a review on it here.

Awake In The Night Land (Book Review)

[Astargath]

^^^ Your expressed view is quite unscientific. After all, science is starting to suggest that there is such a thing as a spirit in each one of us.

Right... when exactly has science done that? I would like to know, perhaps you can show us. Science suggests that death is, well, death, nothingness, there is nothing right now that suggests there is something else after death, not that it can't be possible since we don't know everything but if we are talking about what science suggests, that's what it suggests.

[BADecker]

^^^ Your expressed view is quite unscientific. After all, science is starting to suggest that there is such a thing as a spirit in each one of us.

Right... when exactly has science done that? I would like to know, perhaps you can show us. Science suggests that death is, well, death, nothingness, there is nothing right now that suggests there is something else after death, not that it can't be possible since we don't know everything but if we are talking about what science suggests, that's what it suggests.

So, you've been to the library, eh? But do you know how to use an Internet search engine?

 

[Astargath]

^^^ Your expressed view is quite unscientific. After all, science is starting to suggest that there is such a thing as a spirit in each one of us.

Right... when exactly has science done that? I would like to know, perhaps you can show us. Science suggests that death is, well, death, nothingness, there is nothing right now that suggests there is something else after death, not that it can't be possible since we don't know everything but if we are talking about what science suggests, that's what it suggests.

So, you've been to the library, eh? But do you know how to use an Internet search engine?

 

Yes and it says that science does not suggest there is a soul/spirit in each human.

[BADecker]

^^^ Your expressed view is quite unscientific. After all, science is starting to suggest that there is such a thing as a spirit in each one of us.

Right... when exactly has science done that? I would like to know, perhaps you can show us. Science suggests that death is, well, death, nothingness, there is nothing right now that suggests there is something else after death, not that it can't be possible since we don't know everything but if we are talking about what science suggests, that's what it suggests.

So, you've been to the library, eh? But do you know how to use an Internet search engine?

 

Yes and it says that science does not suggest there is a soul/spirit in each human.

Good cover. After all, many people don't want to embarrass themselves by admitting straight out that they don't know how to use an Internet search engine.

[Astargath]

^^^ Your expressed view is quite unscientific. After all, science is starting to suggest that there is such a thing as a spirit in each one of us.

Right... when exactly has science done that? I would like to know, perhaps you can show us. Science suggests that death is, well, death, nothingness, there is nothing right now that suggests there is something else after death, not that it can't be possible since we don't know everything but if we are talking about what science suggests, that's what it suggests.

So, you've been to the library, eh? But do you know how to use an Internet search engine?

 

Yes and it says that science does not suggest there is a soul/spirit in each human.

Good cover. After all, many people don't want to embarrass themselves by admitting straight out that they don't know how to use an Internet search engine.

True, you are probably one of the few people who keep claiming science did or say that but never actually provide any links or studies and you are shown how wrong you are every single time, then you say something like, ahh but we don't know if those studies are right, bla bla.

[BADecker]

True, you are probably one of the few people who keep claiming science did or say that but never actually provide any links or studies and you are shown how wrong you are every single time, then you say something like, ahh but we don't know if those studies are right, bla bla.

Thank you. You are just like many scientists who want to hide aspects of the truth. You only show the stuff you want, but just can't seem to find the stuff you don't like.

[Astargath]

True, you are probably one of the few people who keep claiming science did or say that but never actually provide any links or studies and you are shown how wrong you are every single time, then you say something like, ahh but we don't know if those studies are right, bla bla.

Thank you. You are just like many scientists who want to hide aspects of the truth. You only show the stuff you want, but just can't seem to find the stuff you don't like.

Well at least I show something, you keep making outrageous claims and never show anything. You keep saying idiotic shit like science is proving creationism and other stupid shit when scientists are the group with most atheists, are you actually insane?

[BADecker]

True, you are probably one of the few people who keep claiming science did or say that but never actually provide any links or studies and you are shown how wrong you are every single time, then you say something like, ahh but we don't know if those studies are right, bla bla.

Thank you. You are just like many scientists who want to hide aspects of the truth. You only show the stuff you want, but just can't seem to find the stuff you don't like.

Well at least I show something, you keep making outrageous claims and never show anything. You keep saying idiotic shit like science is proving creationism and other stupid shit when scientists are the group with most atheists, are you actually insane?

Of course you show something. You show that you can't even do research. This shows that most of your talk is meaningless. But if it has meaning, it is just by accident.

[Astargath]

True, you are probably one of the few people who keep claiming science did or say that but never actually provide any links or studies and you are shown how wrong you are every single time, then you say something like, ahh but we don't know if those studies are right, bla bla.

Thank you. You are just like many scientists who want to hide aspects of the truth. You only show the stuff you want, but just can't seem to find the stuff you don't like.

Well at least I show something, you keep making outrageous claims and never show anything. You keep saying idiotic shit like science is proving creationism and other stupid shit when scientists are the group with most atheists, are you actually insane?

Of course you show something. You show that you can't even do research. This shows that most of your talk is meaningless. But if it has meaning, it is just by accident.

Well it might show that however since you don't actually come up with any studies, it shows you are just a lying person who doesn't even try to use research.