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December 10, 2015, 03:59:04 AM
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... We need a storage platform that people love using...

Yes, nothing else actually matters. Nothing.

Please read the Steve Jobs biography....
Obsession with "user experience" built the biggest corporation in the world.

You're mostly on the right track with Sia...
But running 3 programs, console interfaces, excessive locking, multiple passwords, lost coins, required router settings, dodgy upgrades, etc...
Show that you really DON'T GET IT... and are the sort of person Jobs would fire on the spot.

With BitTorrent, I can download a torrent with exactly 2 clicks... it's not too late to make Sia work.

BitTorrent is well over a decade old and is built by a company with 100 employees. Sia is about 6 months old and has been built by ~3 people. There is only one password, nobody has lost coins since 0.3, upnp is working, and you really only need to touch the UI.

I'm not sure what problems specifically you are talking about, but we've made substantial progress over the past 3 months. The iPhone was not built in a day, and Sia cannot be built in a day either. I think you will like 0.5.0

and apple was about to go under as a business until bill gates helped with something along the lines of a 300nillion usd injection - and a deal to get microsoft products into osx ... then apple came out with the ipod - and that made them BILLIONS - and they are what they are today ...

i cant remember the specifics - but im sure its there in the internet history books ... i have yet to look it up myself - but if memeory sevres me correctly - apple were in dire starights had it not been for the bill gates 'helping hand' ...

either way - sia is probably one of the best storage systems ive seen to date ... very early stages of will be ( if taek and team continue ) one of the most profound decentralized storage packages in history ...

i remember the days of the original bit torrent too ... damn those command line functions you had to punch in when it first started out ... hehehe ...

#crysx
your very close on that bailout deal from Gates  Wink

http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/080797apple.html

Gosh I loved the tech explosion of the late 80's into the 90's. I guess that's why I have enjoyed watching Sia develop in a similar new explosion of data storage. Its simply refreshing.  Smiley its a whole new world in how that data is best stored and by whom.... stay tuned.....

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December 10, 2015, 07:23:35 AM
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... We need a storage platform that people love using...

Yes, nothing else actually matters. Nothing.

Please read the Steve Jobs biography....
Obsession with "user experience" built the biggest corporation in the world.

You're mostly on the right track with Sia...
But running 3 programs, console interfaces, excessive locking, multiple passwords, lost coins, required router settings, dodgy upgrades, etc...
Show that you really DON'T GET IT... and are the sort of person Jobs would fire on the spot.

With BitTorrent, I can download a torrent with exactly 2 clicks... it's not too late to make Sia work.

BitTorrent is well over a decade old and is built by a company with 100 employees. Sia is about 6 months old and has been built by ~3 people. There is only one password, nobody has lost coins since 0.3, upnp is working, and you really only need to touch the UI.

I'm not sure what problems specifically you are talking about, but we've made substantial progress over the past 3 months. The iPhone was not built in a day, and Sia cannot be built in a day either. I think you will like 0.5.0

and apple was about to go under as a business until bill gates helped with something along the lines of a 300nillion usd injection - and a deal to get microsoft products into osx ... then apple came out with the ipod - and that made them BILLIONS - and they are what they are today ...

i cant remember the specifics - but im sure its there in the internet history books ... i have yet to look it up myself - but if memeory sevres me correctly - apple were in dire starights had it not been for the bill gates 'helping hand' ...

either way - sia is probably one of the best storage systems ive seen to date ... very early stages of will be ( if taek and team continue ) one of the most profound decentralized storage packages in history ...

i remember the days of the original bit torrent too ... damn those command line functions you had to punch in when it first started out ... hehehe ...

#crysx
your very close on that bailout deal from Gates  Wink

http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/080797apple.html

Gosh I loved the tech explosion of the late 80's into the 90's. I guess that's why I have enjoyed watching Sia develop in a similar new explosion of data storage. Its simply refreshing.  Smiley its a whole new world in how that data is best stored and by whom.... stay tuned.....

hehehe ...

i knew it was a huge sum - and i think back then - the aud / usd was a 2 : 1 ratio ... so the 300million was stuck in my head ...

but i agree in totality - that technologies as extreme as sia is worth the effort in the long run ... ive been working extensively on granite recently - and i cant hope to even come close to the tech advancements that sia is making - although the direction of granite is a very different one ... the possibility that one day - crypto itself could work together is a stark reminder of how unpredictable things can be - and how amazing the industry still is ...

i believe i can safely say that the technology that david ( taek ) and his team are producing in sia - is fast becoming the glue that will be the binding part of the brickwork of the storage future ... period! ...

id like to think that within this infrastructure that this brickwork is housing - that other crypto can flourish to provide their own elements and services that will work hand in hand ...

a lot of work to do yet for the future - but a very good foundation being built now ... thats sia ...

#crysx

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December 12, 2015, 07:35:17 PM
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Sia is about 6 months old and has been built by ~3 people. There is only one password, nobody has lost coins since 0.3, upnp is working, and you really only need to touch the UI.


You guys definitely have made substantial progress the last 3 months!! It's amazing about only 3 of you were able to build this network in less than a year.  Imagine after 2 years where Sia could be!

Could funds from the siafund sale be used to hire more devs? That way it's more than just 3 of you working on such a big project.
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December 13, 2015, 08:53:45 AM
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I just have fopund out, that sia is a project I will have a look at. Well, compared to sjcx it is yet far behind, but I am pretty sure when the block reward will halfed, the price will sky rocket. No doubt on that.
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December 13, 2015, 11:06:21 AM
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sjcx is stopped in an infinite beta phase, and you need to make a high invest to participate, i think sia is a much more open project and  only beeds a little of publi for none cryptoguys, it may skyrocket the project
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December 13, 2015, 12:29:15 PM
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I just have fopund out, that sia is a project I will have a look at. Well, compared to sjcx it is yet far behind, but I am pretty sure when the block reward will halfed, the price will sky rocket. No doubt on that.

Did you mean that Storjx is behind Sia? That is right. Sia works in the live production environment now and you can upload and download files. You can make little money by renting out your space. Sia is the only live product in this space.
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December 13, 2015, 08:19:44 PM
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I just have fopund out, that sia is a project I will have a look at. Well, compared to sjcx it is yet far behind, but I am pretty sure when the block reward will halfed, the price will sky rocket. No doubt on that.

Did you mean that Storjx is behind Sia? That is right. Sia works in the live production environment now and you can upload and download files. You can make little money by renting out your space. Sia is the only live product in this space.

Yeah Sia is the only one that is currently working.  So while this press was great https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/sia-launches-decentralized-blockchain-based-storage-platform-similar-to-filecoin-and-storj-1449082814 it would have been awesome if they also mentioned Sia was the only working one.  Storj is still in beta, and filecoin I don't think is even open to the public yet.
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December 13, 2015, 10:10:50 PM
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To be fair, we should say that sia is in beta as well.

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December 14, 2015, 01:00:08 AM
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Guys a few questions :

How many mh/s should one obtain with an r9 290 ?

How /where can one see the total GH/S of the network ?

Are there any pools ?

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December 14, 2015, 01:33:03 AM
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Guys a few questions :

How many mh/s should one obtain with an r9 290 ?

How /where can one see the total GH/S of the network ?

Are there any pools ?


Browse around in here: http://sia.tech/

And here is Sia explorer: http://explore.sia.tech/

As far as MH I was mining on a 7970's and getting a lil over 500+ MH per card, if my memory serves me right  Wink about the same with good 7950's

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December 14, 2015, 01:33:53 AM
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Guys a few questions :

How many mh/s should one obtain with an r9 290 ?

How /where can one see the total GH/S of the network ?

Are there any pools ?



about 900-1000 with stock miner.

http://explore.sia.tech/

No pools yet but, devs are working on functionality I believe.
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December 14, 2015, 07:58:35 AM
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How high is the inflation rate for this coin?

I think it is currently very high, which leads miners to dump.

This coin traded at 40 sat, wow.
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December 14, 2015, 08:05:25 AM
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How high is the inflation rate for this coin?

I think it is currently very high, which leads miners to dump.

This coin traded at 40 sat, wow.

Somehow the high inflation rate reminds me on dgb. The coin supply seems very similar. And the thing is that with that coin supply, traders can make huge profits because a price drop of one unit results in a profit or loss of currently more than 25 %. This is just not healthy for the coin. This problem would vanish only when price moves up by the factor hundred or more.

I would propose to cut the supply by factor 1000. Then price would be 4000 sat and this would not let traders profit from just the structure of the supply.

What have devs thought when doing such a supply when they knew that 100,000,000 is the smallest amount in blockchain tec. in almost all projects?!
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December 14, 2015, 08:27:20 AM
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How high is the inflation rate for this coin?

I think it is currently very high, which leads miners to dump.

This coin traded at 40 sat, wow.

Somehow the high inflation rate reminds me on dgb. The coin supply seems very similar. And the thing is that with that coin supply, traders can make huge profits because a price drop of one unit results in a profit or loss of currently more than 25 %. This is just not healthy for the coin. This problem would vanish only when price moves up by the factor hundred or more.

I would propose to cut the supply by factor 1000. Then price would be 4000 sat and this would not let traders profit from just the structure of the supply.

What have devs thought when doing such a supply when they knew that 100,000,000 is the smallest amount in blockchain tec. in almost all projects?!

Tbh we weren't really thinking about the price in those terms. What Poloniex could do is force you to trade 1000 siacoins at a time.

Sia's inflation curve is substantially less heavy than Bitcoin's inflation curve, already the number of coins per block is down about 10% and it's only been 6 months. It's pretty high for an altcoin, Bitcoin's price was basically zero for the first year or so, we probably should have taken that into consideration. But the inflation curve will level out, especially as Sia starts to grow the userbase.
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December 14, 2015, 10:44:08 PM
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Really the coin price is almost irrelevant right now unless you are buying for its intended use, which is to buy storage space. But like many others, I see the coins price rising again based on the user demand one day as Sia becomes more market ready.

So with that in mind SIAcoin is still a super investment opportunity, especially at its current low price. Which it will go back up I am confident. I am sitting tight on my coins, and also for storage use.

Where many coins have been mined and it seems like a lot now, I believe the coins will get purchased quickly once Sia goes mainstream. Plus I see a potential for the coin to be used for other things aside from Sia storage  Smiley

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December 14, 2015, 10:58:19 PM
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Plus I see a potential for the coin to be used for other things aside from Sia storage  Smiley

Enlighten us!   Smiley
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December 14, 2015, 11:00:43 PM
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This coin traded at 40 sat, wow.

Somehow the high inflation rate reminds me on dgb. The coin supply seems very similar. And the thing is that with that coin supply, traders can make huge profits because a price drop of one unit results in a profit or loss of currently more than 25 %. This is just not healthy for the coin. This problem would vanish only when price moves up by the factor hundred or more.

Tbh we weren't really thinking about the price in those terms. What Poloniex could do is force you to trade 1000 siacoins at a time.

Poloniex could also allow trading XMR:SC, which would eliminate the price differential issue. I've asked Polo about it, without reply. Maybe if we go at them all at once they'll wake up to the possibility this would be healthy for SC trading.
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December 15, 2015, 12:07:10 AM
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Plus I see a potential for the coin to be used for other things aside from Sia storage  Smiley

Enlighten us!   Smiley

Well I could sell you anything..... for X- amount of Sia coin, as is with any other coin. "Now excepting SIAcoin" sorta like bitcoin  Grin It has a value too. Unlike most other alts that come and go quickly, Sia should be around for a long time and have a worth (and name brand recognition), which because of its base purpose of use, and should foster other forms of trade for the coin. One would think  Smiley

OR could be tied to sweeten other deals... I sell new and used computers. By a pc from me and receive 500,000 free SIAcoin for your cloud storage use. lol

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December 15, 2015, 01:19:26 AM
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Plus I see a potential for the coin to be used for other things aside from Sia storage  Smiley
Enlighten us!   Smiley
OR could be tied to sweeten other deals... I sell new and used computers. By a pc from me and receive 500,000 free SIAcoin for your cloud storage use. lol

This is the better of your ideas: Sell PCs bundled with pre-installed Sia and a wallet loaded with X coins for backing up files (or maybe have them come to you to claim their coins so you don't waste coins on your most clueless customers...)
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December 15, 2015, 09:45:55 AM
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Guys i have a problem : I have two r9 290s in my rig but i can only get one to start mining !

If i use -p 1 or -p 2 i get the message :

Platform selected (1) is the same as, or higher than, the number of platforms reported to exist by OpenCL on this system <1>. Remember that the first platform has the index 0!


However both GPU-s are active, i can see them in Device Manager as being enabled.


Please advise.
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