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September 17, 2015, 03:58:16 PM
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The coins are lost after switching off the wallet! Usually the latter dug block, regardless of when it was excavated !!!

1. Wallet except as close to "x" graphic-interface, then close "siad.exe" from Task manager!
2. After starting the GUI wallet my balance is zero, walleto shows "siad exited with code:0". Obviously the database is damaged.
3. Because the database is damaged delete set.db located in the folder "consensus".
4. Restart wallet and he began again to synchronize data. Do not unlock the wallet until fully synchronized.
5. After aligning unlock wallet and see value in the portfolio that is decreased by value and one block !!!
6 ...... This is repeated many times, and after each synchronization and start to lose money from the wallet!

....?!? !! Obviously the loss of data from the database are lost and coins !!!!!

Repeated many times? You lost exactly 1 block in value many times? You were using the same wallet.json file? And you are sure that the balance was confirmed before? Given how the wallet works, this error sounds unlikely. I think you are missing some information.
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September 17, 2015, 06:40:35 PM
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Is it safe to use 3.3.3 version ?
It seems to work better for me (mining, sync, balance... I do not speak about files hosting).
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September 17, 2015, 07:54:47 PM
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Is it safe to use 3.3.3 version ?
It seems to work better for me (mining, sync, balance... I do not speak about files hosting).
I still have the bulk of my coins stored on .0.3.3.3 wallet, and seems to work fine for mining still. (Just ain't found no blocks in a while) lol

I think there is hard fork coming up at block 21,000 so not sure if its wise to have any coins stored on .0.3.3.3 as that approaches?

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September 17, 2015, 07:59:05 PM
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i am tryng to mine in windows, wallet verson 4.2 wth sia gpu miner, win 7 64,unlocked  wallet, keep gettng the "failed to load kernel" message.
anyone  have any ideas on how to fix this pls?
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September 17, 2015, 11:02:22 PM
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Is it safe to use 3.3.3 version ?
It seems to work better for me (mining, sync, balance... I do not speak about files hosting).

It's okay. Hardfork at block 21,000, so make sure to upgrade soon. 0.4.3 should address a lot of the issues that people are running into, particularly with the database corruption, but we also made some changes to the networking code. Unlocking the wallet during IBD should also stop freezing everything, though it may take time.

i am tryng to mine in windows, wallet verson 4.2 wth sia gpu miner, win 7 64,unlocked  wallet, keep gettng the "failed to load kernel" message.
anyone  have any ideas on how to fix this pls?

It means you aren't pointing it to the right gpu I believe. There are flags to set the platform and device, more help can be found by running `./sia-gpu-miner --help`
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September 18, 2015, 03:09:15 AM
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I sent all my coins to my new 0.4.1 wallet. But I couldn't upload files I keep getting error messages. So I updated to 0.4.2, uploading worked.

But here is my issue. So I took wallet.json from 0.4.1 and put it in the new 0.4.2. When opening up the client my balance is 0 fine. So I unlock it under wallet and in overview

my correct balance shows. But under the wallet tab,  Balance: says "Locked" and Pending: says "Locked" no matter what I do. I sent coins and uploaded a file and restarted to see

if it goes away it doesn't. Its obviously not locked as the wallet tab also say "unlocked" and I can send coins. Its a graphical issue only I'm sure which seemed to happened

after recovering a backed up wallet file to new 0.4.2 wallet.
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September 18, 2015, 07:50:29 AM
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Just for the record, I have used every wallet since day one. I have never lost any coins, even after 2 corrupted wallets.... once corrected those coins always where there. Of course you need to unlock the 4.1 if ya want to see them  Wink

Bugs will be worked out. I am confident Taek and the others will perfect this wallet which is a true work of genius.  Smiley

Well good for you..
Maybe you haven't actually 'used' the wallets like making transactions... but I see more people complaining about losing coins for a few months now(when was 3.3.2 released?) .  I've lost about 50% of the coins on 3 different occasions and on 3 different wallets..

These issues have never been addressed appropriately and the devs only keep pushing for the next buggy release..
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September 18, 2015, 09:58:20 AM
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Just for the record, I have used every wallet since day one. I have never lost any coins, even after 2 corrupted wallets.... once corrected those coins always where there. Of course you need to unlock the 4.1 if ya want to see them  Wink

Bugs will be worked out. I am confident Taek and the others will perfect this wallet which is a true work of genius.  Smiley

Well good for you..
Maybe you haven't actually 'used' the wallets like making transactions... but I see more people complaining about losing coins for a few months now(when was 3.3.2 released?) .  I've lost about 50% of the coins on 3 different occasions and on 3 different wallets..

These issues have never been addressed appropriately and the devs only keep pushing for the next buggy release..

I have recovered my "lost" (not really lost) coins by switching back to 3.3.3 (I think these are recently mined).
Don't erase old wallets when you upgrade.

I think the dev team should focus on the good functionning of the coin before improving file sharing : this include fixing problems on the wallet, use of a good difficulty adjustement algo (the difficulty is too slow in adjustements : you may see the delta algo used by guldencoin for instance) to keep the block time more regular...

On the other hand, I still believe on this projetc and I have invested a bit more thanks to the rather low prices.

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September 18, 2015, 10:03:34 AM
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Just for the record, I have used every wallet since day one. I have never lost any coins, even after 2 corrupted wallets.... once corrected those coins always where there. Of course you need to unlock the 4.1 if ya want to see them  Wink

Bugs will be worked out. I am confident Taek and the others will perfect this wallet which is a true work of genius.  Smiley

Well good for you..
Maybe you haven't actually 'used' the wallets like making transactions... but I see more people complaining about losing coins for a few months now(when was 3.3.2 released?) .  I've lost about 50% of the coins on 3 different occasions and on 3 different wallets..

These issues have never been addressed appropriately and the devs only keep pushing for the next buggy release..

I have recovered my "lost" (not really lost) coins by switching back to 3.3.3 (I think these are recently mined).
Don't erase old wallets when you upgrade.

I think the dev team should focus on the good functionning of the coin before improving file sharing : this include fixing problems on the wallet, use of a good difficulty adjustement algo (the difficulty is too slow in adjustements : you may see the delta algo used by guldencoin for instance) to keep the block time more regular...


Do you know where I can download the old but much more reliable version 0.3.3.3?
I hope that I have not lost coins and to restore them!
Thanks a lot!

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September 18, 2015, 12:57:12 PM
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when do you plan to release wallet update?
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September 18, 2015, 01:21:35 PM
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Do you know where I can download the old but much more reliable version 0.3.3.3?
I hope that I have not lost coins and to restore them!
Thanks a lot!
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https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia/releases
scroll down to 0.3.3.3
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September 18, 2015, 01:30:15 PM
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Do you know where I can download the old but much more reliable version 0.3.3.3?
I hope that I have not lost coins and to restore them!
Thanks a lot!

https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia/releases
scroll down to 0.3.3.3
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Thanks, but I had in mind the GUI version of wallet 0.3.3.3! This version I have no idea how to use!

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September 18, 2015, 03:17:32 PM
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I have recovered my "lost" (not really lost) coins by switching back to 3.3.3 (I think these are recently mined).
Don't erase old wallets when you upgrade.

I think the dev team should focus on the good functionning of the coin before improving file sharing : this include fixing problems on the wallet, use of a good difficulty adjustement algo (the difficulty is too slow in adjustements : you may see the delta algo used by guldencoin for instance) to keep the block time more regular...

On the other hand, I still believe on this projetc and I have invested a bit more thanks to the rather low prices.



We've spent the entire past two weeks working on the problems you've been complaining about, and done nothing with file storage or mining pools since people have been having trouble.

We can't switch the difficulty algo, most of the popular ones have problems with other attacks such as difficulty raising attacks.

I'm sorry that everyone feels like switching back to 0.3.3.3 is the safest thing to do. As far as losing coins is concerned, 0.4.x is far safer. The UI has bugs where it won't show your balance (we're working on it), and the consensus database has corruption issues (also working on it - it's done but need to continue testing to make sure no consensus forks were introduced).

I'm sorry the 0.4.x series has been so buggy.  Undecided. We solved a lot of the major security issues but in the process we destroyed usability.
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September 18, 2015, 04:05:47 PM
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Just for the record, I have used every wallet since day one. I have never lost any coins, even after 2 corrupted wallets.... once corrected those coins always where there. Of course you need to unlock the 4.1 if ya want to see them  Wink

Bugs will be worked out. I am confident Taek and the others will perfect this wallet which is a true work of genius.  Smiley

Well good for you..
Maybe you haven't actually 'used' the wallets like making transactions... but I see more people complaining about losing coins for a few months now(when was 3.3.2 released?) .  I've lost about 50% of the coins on 3 different occasions and on 3 different wallets..

These issues have never been addressed appropriately and the devs only keep pushing for the next buggy release..
I wasn't bragging Mishax, only making a point. Its wise to always test your new wallet on another pc with a limited amount of coins only, rather then the one with your bulk of coins.

And yes I have used the wallets in everyway since June 7th, hosting, uploading mp3 files, transferring coins to test wallets from main wallet, mining, sending coins to main from mining rigs wallets, uploading coins and selling on Poli, withdrawing coins from Poli back to main wallet and sold some in the early days to those that needed some for testing before Poli... so to your insinuation I haven't used the wallet? well

As a user be cautious and test everything with small amounts of coins before risking you stash  Smiley

PS: I guess there is always a chance I could lose my coins at some point but it won't be because I didn't exercise prudence while in beta..... and I have stayed on top of what others in here have suggested in solving problems or work arounds to correct as in the corrupted wallet issue... cause I wasn't smart enough to figure out what went wrong on my own...  Grin

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September 18, 2015, 08:22:36 PM
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I have recovered my "lost" (not really lost) coins by switching back to 3.3.3 (I think these are recently mined).
Don't erase old wallets when you upgrade.

I think the dev team should focus on the good functionning of the coin before improving file sharing : this include fixing problems on the wallet, use of a good difficulty adjustement algo (the difficulty is too slow in adjustements : you may see the delta algo used by guldencoin for instance) to keep the block time more regular...

On the other hand, I still believe on this projetc and I have invested a bit more thanks to the rather low prices.



We've spent the entire past two weeks working on the problems you've been complaining about, and done nothing with file storage or mining pools since people have been having trouble.

We can't switch the difficulty algo, most of the popular ones have problems with other attacks such as difficulty raising attacks.

I'm sorry that everyone feels like switching back to 0.3.3.3 is the safest thing to do. As far as losing coins is concerned, 0.4.x is far safer. The UI has bugs where it won't show your balance (we're working on it), and the consensus database has corruption issues (also working on it - it's done but need to continue testing to make sure no consensus forks were introduced).

I'm sorry the 0.4.x series has been so buggy.  Undecided. We solved a lot of the major security issues but in the process we destroyed usability.
I would not blame you about this : the project is ambitious, you and your team has done a huge amount of work.
You have been active et helpful when some of us had have problems.
Don't be to much sorry.
About difficulty algo : it would be helpful while hasrate is up and down and on the low side : some coins with good trading volume and high market cap use them without problems I believe. On the other hand,  once pools are ready, it should be less of a problem with hasrate more stable : did you contact ocminer for some help on this? he is really good setting up pools for coins which are not bitcoin clones  in the pow side (spreadcoin, ethereum ...).


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September 18, 2015, 10:43:58 PM
Last edit: September 18, 2015, 11:21:41 PM by andyatcrux
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Just for the record, I have used every wallet since day one. I have never lost any coins, even after 2 corrupted wallets.... once corrected those coins always where there. Of course you need to unlock the 4.1 if ya want to see them  Wink

Bugs will be worked out. I am confident Taek and the others will perfect this wallet which is a true work of genius.  Smiley

Well good for you..
Maybe you haven't actually 'used' the wallets like making transactions... but I see more people complaining about losing coins for a few months now(when was 3.3.2 released?) .  I've lost about 50% of the coins on 3 different occasions and on 3 different wallets..

These issues have never been addressed appropriately and the devs only keep pushing for the next buggy release..
I wasn't bragging Mishax, only making a point. Its wise to always test your new wallet on another pc with a limited amount of coins only, rather then the one with your bulk of coins.

And yes I have used the wallets in everyway since June 7th, hosting, uploading mp3 files, transferring coins to test wallets from main wallet, mining, sending coins to main from mining rigs wallets, uploading coins and selling on Poli, withdrawing coins from Poli back to main wallet and sold some in the early days to those that needed some for testing before Poli... so to your insinuation I haven't used the wallet? well

As a user be cautious and test everything with small amounts of coins before risking you stash  Smiley

PS: I guess there is always a chance I could lose my coins at some point but it won't be because I didn't exercise prudence while in beta..... and I have stayed on top of what others in here have suggested in solving problems or work arounds to correct as in the corrupted wallet issue... cause I wasn't smart enough to figure out what went wrong on my own...  Grin

I have never lost coins either and I have definitely made many transactions and used all the versions of the wallet so far. Many of the "lost" coins that people have reported turned out to not be lost at all. Bugs? Definitely. But each consecutive release has had improvements in security and as it stands having a wallet that can be recovered with a passphrase makes this one of the harder wallets out there to lose coins on. The reports of losing coins have been way overblown and caused panic when using the GUI because the slow loading and database corruption give the unfortunate illusion of "lost" coins when this is not the case. I am not saying that Mishax made some sort of user errors to lose coins, but in the troubleshooting channel of slack I have definitely read some steps people took that lead to their own loss, such as deleting backups, etc.
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September 19, 2015, 02:23:02 AM
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Ya all the chatter of lost coins and buggy releases and all, surely can't help coin value but it is in beta.. lol, but ill say it again ... even the 4.2 wallet now, still kicks azz!! it works! ... (just gotta watch that little "siad" thingy) just shut that down properly if needed and its all good  Cheesy

Everyone hang tight the best is yet to come Smiley

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September 19, 2015, 02:30:23 AM
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If coin price drops a hair more I am going to scarf up a ton. Hit 10 a couple weeks ago, then shot back up to mid 20's or so.... cha ching lol Buyers market right now again.

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September 19, 2015, 02:39:48 AM
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I'm trying to recover wallet without the wallet.json in command line. So I after I type siac wallet load seed it asks for the password. So I type

the 29 word password then it says new seed: what do I type here?

Also can this be done with the UI yet? It doesn't seem to.
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September 19, 2015, 07:35:06 AM
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Do you know where I can download the old GUI version of wallet 0.3.3.3?
I can give e-mail of PM or Skype if someone is willing to send it!
Thanks!

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