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September 16, 2015, 05:21:51 AM
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Just so:
Have anyone contact bittrex to add Siacoin!? We have volume...

They won't add it, they don't like adding unique coins/assets , that is probably why they didn't add Ether which had and still has massive volume..  or Maidsafe, or w/e..
They mainly add shitcoins and scamcoins which are copy-pasta and easy to operate..

They did eventually add ETH, but yeah I agree with your sentiment. Poloniex will keep even low volume coins that hold a strong place in crypto history. I remember when Bittrex delisted Peercoin but then added Nubits. No rhyme or reason.

Edit: well I guess they did add Peercoin back on Bittrex. I stand corrected. Anyhow, that was not your point. Bittrex does love to add scamcoins as long as they have the 3 BTC to pay.
Ya Bittrex Richie luvs to cash in on the scam coins... watch em pump and dump and make a nice quick buck for sure....  Grin

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I just think that we have to move SC also to other exchanges to get out of the same sell/buy circle... to increase the recognisability and price.... SC is great... it would be shame to lose the momentum

No worries, it was not a bad question. There are pros and cons to adding to another exchange at this point. Arbitrage creates sell pressure is one con a this point. Sure there is decent volume for  a single exchange, but I am not sure another exchange at right now would add to volume rather than divide it. I predict that Sia will be subject to slow growth due to the inflationary curve over the next year. As its a long term project I am now content to not worry about the price. It is one of the few projects out there that I can say that about. My humble opinion.  Wink
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September 16, 2015, 09:26:37 AM
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There is no good exchange but the problem with Polinex which is really making the market is they almost actively dismiss any long term great projects for easy hypeable coins with no real long term future. Plus it's easy to FUD SC, someone says there are too many coins and the price tumbles.
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September 16, 2015, 10:06:19 AM
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I'm sure many times when someone is fudding they're trying to get people to dump into their buy orders.

I haven't been following SC for long but it seems to have some real potential, how many coins will there be after 1 year? is there a cap

if MINT can hold 15-25 as well as it has with 22 billion coins, then a project like SC should be able to hold much greater value over time HA as long as we don't end up with too many billion

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September 16, 2015, 10:12:34 AM
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I'm sure many times when someone is fudding they're trying to get people to dump into their buy orders.

I haven't been following SC for long but it seems to have some real potential, how many coins will there be after 1 year? is there a cap

if MINT can hold 15-25 as well as it has with 22 billion coins, then a project like SC should be able to hold much greater value over time HA as long as we don't end up with too many billion



I tend to look at marketcap rather than price which is still very very low.  Because actually supply of coins is a red herring, you can have a trillion coins and be underpriced. The total supply is 4billion I think with some relatively minor inflation annually.
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September 16, 2015, 11:52:35 AM
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Is there information will appear when a new version of the graphic wallet v0.4.3.
2 days I have problems with version v0.4.2 database already lost and coins !!! Hopefully the problems in v0.4.3 be eliminated soon, because it will make me abandon Mining of this coin! Unfortunately, of course!  Sad

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September 16, 2015, 11:56:27 AM
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There is no good exchange but the problem with Polinex which is really making the market is they almost actively dismiss any long term great projects for easy hypeable coins with no real long term future. Plus it's easy to FUD SC, someone says there are too many coins and the price tumbles.
The amount of coins shouldnt make any difference since even bitcoins are divisible up to a 100 000 000 times. We could just as well argue that there are too many bitcoins. 0.00000001btc is still bitcoin.
Amirite? I've thought about this before, and it always annoys me to see new coins with small supply. Personally I'd much rather buy 100btc for $100 than 0.3 or whatever, because its more convenient.

There is a psycological effect and a trading effect with a small unit of account.
The latter come from the bid/ask spread : while sia is trading in the 10-20 satoshi range, the bid/ask spread is at least  between 5% and 10% since trading in most places doesn't use decimals beyond satoshi. On the other hand, trading in kilo-sia would lead to a range which could be as low as 0.005%-0.01%.
Suppose you bought sia, then latter you want to sell : with stable price, you will loose 5-10% of value.

Now imagine some dips in the 5 satoshis (it has happened to mintcoin) : 20% spread...
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September 16, 2015, 12:30:21 PM
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In the latest 32 bit version I found that siad cannot be run. The package may have included the 64 bit siad.exe by mistake?

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September 16, 2015, 02:53:12 PM
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There is no good exchange but the problem with Polinex which is really making the market is they almost actively dismiss any long term great projects for easy hypeable coins with no real long term future. Plus it's easy to FUD SC, someone says there are too many coins and the price tumbles.
The amount of coins shouldnt make any difference since even bitcoins are divisible up to a 100 000 000 times. We could just as well argue that there are too many bitcoins. 0.00000001btc is still bitcoin.
Amirite? I've thought about this before, and it always annoys me to see new coins with small supply. Personally I'd much rather buy 100btc for $100 than 0.3 or whatever, because its more convenient.

There is a psycological effect and a trading effect with a small unit of account.
The latter come from the bid/ask spread : while sia is trading in the 10-20 satoshi range, the bid/ask spread is at least  between 5% and 10% since trading in most places doesn't use decimals beyond satoshi. On the other hand, trading in kilo-sia would lead to a range which could be as low as 0.005%-0.01%.
Suppose you bought sia, then latter you want to sell : with stable price, you will loose 5-10% of value.

Now imagine some dips in the 5 satoshis (it has happened to mintcoin) : 20% spread...


Yeah I do agree that when we are trading around 10-20 sats moves are a bit binary and can make any moves in price violent, that can also be good, but  yeah it scares some I think. Far better when rises are smaller and aren't so drastic.....hopefully we will be in the 100's of sats soon so this is less of an issue.
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September 17, 2015, 09:54:28 AM
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Is there information will appear when a new version of the graphic wallet v0.4.3.
2 days I have problems with version v0.4.2 database already lost and coins !!! Hopefully the problems in v0.4.3 be eliminated soon, because it will make me abandon Mining of this coin! Unfortunately, of course!  Sad

?!?!?!?!??!?!?!

Does anyone know anything about it Huh

Meanwhile, this version is super, mega, terra ..... buggy in any way you can not close wallet without lost coins - about 1000000 S! Too bad that I believed in this project, but so far to stop mining until you solve the problems with the database!  Angry

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September 17, 2015, 10:05:46 AM
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Is there information will appear when a new version of the graphic wallet v0.4.3.
2 days I have problems with version v0.4.2 database already lost and coins !!! Hopefully the problems in v0.4.3 be eliminated soon, because it will make me abandon Mining of this coin! Unfortunately, of course!  Sad

?!?!?!?!??!?!?!

Does anyone know anything about it Huh

Meanwhile, this version is super, mega, terra ..... buggy in any way you can not close wallet without lost coins - about 1000000 S! Too bad that I believed in this project, but so far to stop mining until you solve the problems with the database!  Angry

ive now lost almost 8 million also ... and that was the last one ...

taek - is there anyway to recoup the lost coins? ... or are they gone forever? ...

its a hug amount ive lost now - and as impressed as i am with teh whole project - and KNOW that it is worth it for the storage facilities - i must agree that minign for me has also stopped ...

i have NOT lost faith in the project - as i am willing to help in anyway i can ... even to host servers that will help the network ... but im at a loss as understand how we can continue to mine and lose coins that could be used for storage later ...

i think if anything - that should be the priority ... the safety of the funds in the wallet via the stability of the wallet ...

tanx taek ...

edit - wait up ... the coins have re-appeared ... have you got your wallet locked or unlocked? ... it seems when you unlock the wallet and wait a few minutes - the coins re-appear ...

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September 17, 2015, 10:19:32 AM
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Current sia hashing rate (according to http://explore.siacoin.com/) is 1.407528 TH/s.

The highest I've seen.

Edit: Now it dropped to more familiar 642.957488 GH/s. Strange.
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Current sia hashing rate (according to http://explore.siacoin.com/) is 1.407528 TH/s.

The highest I've seen.

Edit: Now it dropped to more familiar 642.957488 GH/s. Strange.

thats because its not strange Wink ...

it happens when miners come and go ... as you know ...

it will pick up again ... when the new wallet is a hell of a lot more stable ...

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September 17, 2015, 11:22:54 AM
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I'm sure many times when someone is fudding they're trying to get people to dump into their buy orders.

I haven't been following SC for long but it seems to have some real potential, how many coins will there be after 1 year? is there a cap

if MINT can hold 15-25 as well as it has with 22 billion coins, then a project like SC should be able to hold much greater value over time HA as long as we don't end up with too many billion



I tend to look at marketcap rather than price which is still very very low.  Because actually supply of coins is a red herring, you can have a trillion coins and be underpriced. The total supply is 4billion I think with some relatively minor inflation annually.

Current supply is about 5 billion. One year from now it will be around 16 billion. Sia is only a few months old, which means the inflation rate is going to continue to be very high for a while. However, the growth rate should also be very high. After about 6 years the inflation rate will dip below 3% annually.

In the latest 32 bit version I found that siad cannot be run. The package may have included the 64 bit siad.exe by mistake?

Will look into it. You are running the GUI? Do you have a more specific error message?

Is there information will appear when a new version of the graphic wallet v0.4.3.
2 days I have problems with version v0.4.2 database already lost and coins !!! Hopefully the problems in v0.4.3 be eliminated soon, because it will make me abandon Mining of this coin! Unfortunately, of course!  Sad

You should not have lost any coins. Database corruption does not result in lost coins. Make sure you unlock the wallet after your database resynchronizes.


Meanwhile, this version is super, mega, terra ..... buggy in any way you can not close wallet without lost coins - about 1000000 S! Too bad that I believed in this project, but so far to stop mining until you solve the problems with the database!  Angry

ive now lost almost 8 million also ... and that was the last one ...

taek - is there anyway to recoup the lost coins? ... or are they gone forever? ...

As you saw, coins are not gone. 0.4.x wallets should have lots of strong protections against losing coins. Coins are safe even when the database corrupts.

Currently working on fixing the database corruption. At this point, my development branch no longer experiences database corruption, but I am still testing to make sure more bugs were not introduced. Blockchain download is also much faster as a result of the fixes.
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September 17, 2015, 11:50:42 AM
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Is there information will appear when a new version of the graphic wallet v0.4.3.
2 days I have problems with version v0.4.2 database already lost and coins !!! Hopefully the problems in v0.4.3 be eliminated soon, because it will make me abandon Mining of this coin! Unfortunately, of course!  Sad

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You should not have lost any coins. Database corruption does not result in lost coins. Make sure you unlock the wallet after your database resynchronizes.

I am absolutely convinced of what I say! Always wait for the first synchronization and then unlock your wallet!Then unlock the wallet, I see your balance and start mining!
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that is true, then you have a serious problem with the wallet v.0.4.2 and should immediately pay attention to this! HE LOSES COINS! And this happens several times with me.
Please, if someone happened and confirm it!

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September 17, 2015, 12:26:46 PM
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Hello, the v0.4.2 version is fully functional with siafunds?
How I can see that the siafunds are really in one direction?

Sorry for my broken English XD
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September 17, 2015, 12:27:30 PM
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The coins are lost after switching off the wallet! Usually the latter dug block, regardless of when it was excavated !!!

1. Wallet except as close to "x" graphic-interface, then close "siad.exe" from Task manager!
2. After starting the GUI wallet my balance is zero, walleto shows "siad exited with code:0". Obviously the database is damaged.
3. Because the database is damaged delete set.db located in the folder "consensus".
4. Restart wallet and he began again to synchronize data. Do not unlock the wallet until fully synchronized.
5. After aligning unlock wallet and see value in the portfolio that is decreased by value and one block !!!
6 ...... This is repeated many times, and after each synchronization and start to lose money from the wallet!

....?!? !! Obviously the loss of data from the database are lost and coins !!!!!

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The coins are lost after switching off the wallet! Usually the latter dug block, regardless of when it was excavated !!!

1. Wallet except as close to "x" graphic-interface, then close "siad.exe" from Task manager!
2. After starting the GUI wallet my balance is zero, walleto shows "siad exited with code:0". Obviously the database is damaged.
3. Because the database is damaged delete set.db located in the folder "consensus".
4. Restart wallet and he began again to synchronize data. Do not unlock the wallet until fully synchronized.
5. After aligning unlock wallet and see value in the portfolio that is decreased by value and one block !!!
6 ...... This is repeated many times, and after each synchronization and start to lose money from the wallet!

....?!? !! Obviously the loss of data from the database are lost and coins !!!!!
If you start with a wallet from 3.3.3 client, you may try to launch 3.3.3 with the old wallet and observe the balance after sync.

On the other hand, are the lost coins recently mined ones ?
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September 17, 2015, 12:40:48 PM
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I'm sure many times when someone is fudding they're trying to get people to dump into their buy orders.

I haven't been following SC for long but it seems to have some real potential, how many coins will there be after 1 year? is there a cap

if MINT can hold 15-25 as well as it has with 22 billion coins, then a project like SC should be able to hold much greater value over time HA as long as we don't end up with too many billion



I tend to look at marketcap rather than price which is still very very low.  Because actually supply of coins is a red herring, you can have a trillion coins and be underpriced. The total supply is 4billion I think with some relatively minor inflation annually.

Current supply is about 5 billion. One year from now it will be around 16 billion. Sia is only a few months old, which means the inflation rate is going to continue to be very high for a while. However, the growth rate should also be very high. After about 6 years the inflation rate will dip below 3% annually.

In the latest 32 bit version I found that siad cannot be run. The package may have included the 64 bit siad.exe by mistake?

Will look into it. You are running the GUI? Do you have a more specific error message?

Is there information will appear when a new version of the graphic wallet v0.4.3.
2 days I have problems with version v0.4.2 database already lost and coins !!! Hopefully the problems in v0.4.3 be eliminated soon, because it will make me abandon Mining of this coin! Unfortunately, of course!  Sad

You should not have lost any coins. Database corruption does not result in lost coins. Make sure you unlock the wallet after your database resynchronizes.


Meanwhile, this version is super, mega, terra ..... buggy in any way you can not close wallet without lost coins - about 1000000 S! Too bad that I believed in this project, but so far to stop mining until you solve the problems with the database!  Angry

ive now lost almost 8 million also ... and that was the last one ...

taek - is there anyway to recoup the lost coins? ... or are they gone forever? ...

As you saw, coins are not gone. 0.4.x wallets should have lots of strong protections against losing coins. Coins are safe even when the database corrupts.

Currently working on fixing the database corruption. At this point, my development branch no longer experiences database corruption, but I am still testing to make sure more bugs were not introduced. Blockchain download is also much faster as a result of the fixes.

thats great ...

it turns out that an unlock of the wallet released the amount ... or at the very least - showed the amount that was not visible when the wallet was locked ...

tanx taek ...

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September 17, 2015, 01:43:19 PM
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The coins are lost after switching off the wallet! Usually the latter dug block, regardless of when it was excavated !!!

1. Wallet except as close to "x" graphic-interface, then close "siad.exe" from Task manager!
2. After starting the GUI wallet my balance is zero, walleto shows "siad exited with code:0". Obviously the database is damaged.
3. Because the database is damaged delete set.db located in the folder "consensus".
4. Restart wallet and he began again to synchronize data. Do not unlock the wallet until fully synchronized.
5. After aligning unlock wallet and see value in the portfolio that is decreased by value and one block !!!
6 ...... This is repeated many times, and after each synchronization and start to lose money from the wallet!

....?!? !! Obviously the loss of data from the database are lost and coins !!!!!
If you start with a wallet from 3.3.3 client, you may try to launch 3.3.3 with the old wallet and observe the balance after sync.

On the other hand, are the lost coins recently mined ones ?

Unfortunately for me I delete this version and I can not find her. Otherwise, the idea is good and worth trying.  Wink
Thanks!

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Last edit: September 17, 2015, 06:23:39 PM by MinermanNC
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Just for the record, I have used every wallet since day one. I have never lost any coins, even after 2 corrupted wallets.... once corrected those coins always where there. Of course you need to unlock the 4.1 if ya want to see them  Wink

Bugs will be worked out. I am confident Taek and the others will perfect this wallet which is a true work of genius.  Smiley

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