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August 27, 2015, 02:56:02 PM
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Really need a full tutorial on the website of how to use Sia, how to setup storage hosting, how to mine, etc...
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August 27, 2015, 03:20:15 PM
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Really need a full tutorial on the website of how to use Sia, how to setup storage hosting, how to mine, etc...
Yes everyone acknowledges that. Taek and devs have stated that will be forthcoming after version 4.00 is released and many of the beta priority issues have been resolved. In the mean time for many, most questions have been ask and the answers really are in here as well. Albeit a pain to read through.  Wink

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August 27, 2015, 05:20:45 PM
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Really need a full tutorial on the website of how to use Sia, how to setup storage hosting, how to mine, etc...

I will confirm that it's my #1 priority once 0.4.0 is out. I was going to put siafunds at #1, but our recent boost in popularity puts siafunds at #2 for the time being.
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August 27, 2015, 05:28:13 PM
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Hi,

I just found this thread and find the concept interesting.

However, I can't find a tutorial on how to start participating in a few simple steps. Can someone post a link if there is one? The whitepaper and FAQ do not give much help, I'm afraid.

If there isn't one, can some kind soul answer a few questions. I only intend to act as a host.

- at the moment, just after installing the wallet, I get a notice about updating the wallet but I can't find any later release than 0.3.3.3. What is the problem here?
- I did get the update notice, I do not seem to download a blockchain and I have zero peers. Should something like a peer list be updated? For the moment I disabled all firewalls.

- I only intend to act as host and have xxx TB to share, but they are on separate rigs on my LAN and oblivious on a whole lot of HDDs. Do I have to announce each rig with the total storage capacity (or even announce each HDD)?
- To keep a single wallet, do I need to map every HDD to the rig with the wallet or is it possible to keep a single wallet (like mapping HDDs)?
- Should the disk be empty/formated or do I need to write something to them? I saw references to a GPU miner.


Sorry for being such a newbie, I just got a bit excited over this Smiley



I'm not sure why you got a notice that you should update. There is no release later than 0.3.3.3 at the moment (0.4.0 will be out very soon though).

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I do not seem to download a blockchain and I have zero peers.

Did you try restarting? You won't be able to get the blockchain until you have peers. Are you on the same IP address as another node? If you are, then it will affect your ability to get peers (we're working on fixing that for 0.4.1)

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Should the disk be empty/formated or do I need to write something to them?

Needs to be formatted. Siad will use your filesystem to store data.

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To keep a single wallet, do I need to map every HDD to the rig with the wallet or is it possible to keep a single wallet (like mapping HDDs)

I think at this point ideally you'd have a separate instance of 'siad' for each machine you run. If you want everything on one wallet, you can give each machine the same wallet file. Run siad on one of them, encrypt and unlock the wallet, and then copy the resulting wallet.json to every other machine. There are pitfalls in doing that. For example, you should never move a wallet.json file while Sia is running.

We'll have a tutorial up sometime next week, but is sounds like your questions are outside of the scope of that tutorial anyway.

Thanks for dropping by!
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August 27, 2015, 09:28:06 PM
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Really need a full tutorial on the website of how to use Sia, how to setup storage hosting, how to mine, etc...

I will confirm that it's my #1 priority once 0.4.0 is out. I was going to put siafunds at #1, but our recent boost in popularity puts siafunds at #2 for the time being.

Good to know.  Thanks.
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August 27, 2015, 11:19:22 PM
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Hello,
I'm trying to send some coins to another wallet, or to poloniex,
but it wont make any transaction. I'm trying to send it through GUI.
Lets say I send 1KS, my balance is lowered, but on the other side its not credited anywhere.
Also I've mined 4 blocks, but after 48hours i have only 285KS, so I'm not sure where is the rest.
Does anyone know what could be possibly wrong with my wallets, or what Am I doing wrong?
Thank you.

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August 28, 2015, 01:58:03 AM
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Hello,
I'm trying to send some coins to another wallet, or to poloniex,
but it wont make any transaction. I'm trying to send it through GUI.
Lets say I send 1KS, my balance is lowered, but on the other side its not credited anywhere.
Also I've mined 4 blocks, but after 48hours i have only 285KS, so I'm not sure where is the rest.
Does anyone know what could be possibly wrong with my wallets, or what Am I doing wrong?
Thank you.

I suppose its possible 3 of the 4 blocks you have not received were orphaned? or your mining software is not reporting blocks found accurately.... what miner version?  What OS? And I'm sure your sure your using 0.3.3.3  Smiley ok, lots of possibilities.

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August 28, 2015, 02:01:00 AM
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I would like to get some SIA.
Is there any faucets for this coin?
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August 28, 2015, 02:56:11 AM
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Hello,
I'm trying to send some coins to another wallet, or to poloniex,
but it wont make any transaction. I'm trying to send it through GUI.
Lets say I send 1KS, my balance is lowered, but on the other side its not credited anywhere.
Also I've mined 4 blocks, but after 48hours i have only 285KS, so I'm not sure where is the rest.
Does anyone know what could be possibly wrong with my wallets, or what Am I doing wrong?
Thank you.


One option to see how many blocks you've mined is to run
siac miner status

in the command line.. within the sia folder
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August 28, 2015, 03:00:00 AM
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I would like to get some SIA.
Is there any faucets for this coin?

There's no faucet I'm aware of but you can buy some on poloniex.
https://www.poloniex.com/

The ticker symbol is SC
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August 28, 2015, 03:57:50 AM
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Hello,
I'm trying to send some coins to another wallet, or to poloniex,
but it wont make any transaction. I'm trying to send it through GUI.
Lets say I send 1KS, my balance is lowered, but on the other side its not credited anywhere.

One thing that you can do is check the block explorer:

explore.siacoin.com

Look up the address that you sent the balance to and see if the block explorer knows where the coins went. If a transaction shows up, you can confirm that it happened. If no transaction shows up, it means that you never sent a transaction to that wallet (well, not one that made it onto the blockchain anyway).

Also I've mined 4 blocks, but after 48hours i have only 285KS, so I'm not sure where is the rest.
Does anyone know what could be possibly wrong with my wallets, or what Am I doing wrong?
Thank you.


What is your hash rate, and how long have you been mining? It's possible that 3 of the blocks were orphaned, but I don't think it's likely.

I would like to get some SIA.
Is there any faucets for this coin?

There's no faucet I'm aware of but you can buy some on poloniex.
https://www.poloniex.com/

The ticker symbol is SC

There is no faucet.
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August 28, 2015, 07:34:43 AM
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Could use some discussion on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163401.0  If you guys are really first to market with decentralized storage you shouldn't give up that advantage without a fight.
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August 28, 2015, 08:04:21 AM
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Could use some discussion on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163401.0  If you guys are really first to market with decentralized storage you shouldn't give up that advantage without a fight.

We don't intend to.

And you should help us spread the word  Smiley
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August 28, 2015, 08:10:08 AM
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Lets spread this coin, we can move up !
Any ideas?
Duo to high supply amount we need lots of new investors
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August 28, 2015, 08:23:55 AM
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How my client lost another 3m Sia:

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mishax1 [10:21 AM]
My client just lost 3m sia . again !

taek [10:24 AM]
what version are you using?

taek [10:24 AM]
0.4.0 is much safer

taek [10:24 AM]
but... 0.3.3.3 shouldn't be causing you problems either

taek [10:25 AM]
did you try restarting the wallet? The coins might come back if you restart siad

taek [10:25 AM]
or wait 40 blocks

mishax1 [10:31 AM]
0.3.3.3

mishax1 [10:32 AM]
40 blocks ? how long will it take ?

taek [10:32 AM]
400 minutes usually

taek [10:32 AM]
probably easier just to restart siad

taek [10:33 AM]
it will have the same effect

mishax1 [10:33 AM]
already restaarted the pc

mishax1 [10:33 AM]
problem is.. instead of 5m it showed 2+ m

mishax1 [10:34 AM]
I just sent those to the exchange  (dont wanna dealn with that client anymore)

mishax1 [10:34 AM]
but i see only 1 address now

mishax1 [10:34 AM]
istead of 4

mishax1 [10:36 AM]
my 3.3.2 client shows 4 addresses and from that wallet i managed to send the 2m

mishax1 [10:38 AM]
not even sure if thats the same wallet i used in 3.3.3

mishax1 [10:39 AM]
can you tell me again where is the wallet file ?

taek [10:39 AM]
if you have also been running 0.3.3.2 that would explain why your coins are getting eaten

taek [10:39 AM]
0.3.3.2 eats coins

taek [10:39 AM]
:disappointed:

mishax1 [10:40 AM]
no no no

mishax1 [10:40 AM]
I ran 3.3.2 only after I saw my 3.3.3 lost the wallet/coins

taek [10:41 AM]
wallet file is in Sia/app/resources/dependencies/Sia/wallet/wallet.dat I think

taek [10:41 AM]
ok

taek [10:41 AM]
if the number of addresses that the wallet is showing went down, it means that somehow your wallet file got overwritten

taek [10:41 AM]
=/

taek [10:42 AM]
0.4.0 fixes this problem

mishax1 [10:42 AM]
how did it get overwritten ?

mishax1 [10:42 AM]
can you give me a link to 0.4.0 ?

taek [11:05 AM]
it not released yet

taek [11:05 AM]
was supposed to be ready a few days ago

taek [11:06 AM]
but there have been a series of bugs that have delayed it

taek [11:06 AM]
as far as we know, just 1 bug remains

taek [11:06 AM]
but it's an important one =/

mishax1 [12:40 PM]
so how do i recover the lost sia ?

chanc3r [12:59 PM]
@mishax1:  which wallet version did you send the Sia from and on what platform, windows, mac, linux? (edited)

mishax1 [1:04 PM]
Sia-UI-v0.3.3.2-beta-win64

taek [1:07 PM]
there's a chance that the coins are in a wallet in your home folder

taek [1:07 PM]
$HOME/.config/Sia/wallet/wallet.dat

taek [1:07 PM]
but I think most likely 0.3.3.2 destroyed them

taek [1:08 PM]
:disappointed:

taek [1:09 PM]
the fundamental problem is that new wallet addresses would be generated and saved to the wallet, but then a different wallet would overwrite the generated addresses

taek [1:09 PM]
and so the generated addresses would not be recoverable

taek [1:10 PM]
We fixed this by making sure that a unique backup of all addresses is made in 0.4.0, so that a backup would never get overwritten

taek [1:10 PM]
additionally, most of the time when you generate a new address, very little changes in the wallet

taek [1:10 PM]
sorry that 0.4.0 is not out yet

chanc3r [1:14 PM]
@taek thats a unix path

taek [1:15 PM]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_directory

taek [1:16 PM]
I meant to suggest $HOME as a os-neutral variable, perhaps $(HOME) would have been more clear

taek [1:16 PM]
windows has a home folder

chanc3r [1:16 PM]
I meant the ‘.config’ bit

taek [1:17 PM]
I think we stored them in '.config' even on Windows

chanc3r [1:17 PM]
lol

taek [1:17 PM]
the alternative place would have been $HOME/.sia/wallet/wallet.dat

taek [1:17 PM]
:stuck_out_tongue: still a dotfile

mishax1 [1:17 PM]
what made the client to destroy my wallet in the first place ?

chanc3r [1:18 PM]
with 0.3.3.3 mine is in <directory>\win32\resources\app\sia\wallet

taek [1:18 PM]
I forget all of the reasons that 0.3.3.2 would screw up. The most common I think was accidentally running 2 instances of 'siad' at a time

taek [1:18 PM]
0.3.3.3 doesn't use the home folder

chanc3r [1:18 PM]
ah

chanc3r [1:20 PM]
so if mishax ran 0.3.3.3 or 0.3.2 they couldnt overwrite each others wallet.dat as they have them in different places

taek [1:21 PM]
0.3.3.2 had them in both places =/

taek [1:21 PM]
so it would overwrite the 0.3.3.3 wallet as well as it's own wallet

taek [1:22 PM]
basically, some very bad programming

mishax1 [1:22 PM]
i didnt open 3.3.2 untill i saw that 3.3.3 lost my wallet and balance

taek [1:23 PM]
@mishax1: I think you would have been okay if you hadn't opened 0.3.3.2, but I'm not sure where those coins went. We should check the block explorer once it's fixed

cryptoscalper [1:28 PM]
@taek:  shouldn't he be ok if there is a backup even with the overwrite?

taek [1:29 PM]
that's the bad part. When you send coins, you create a new address (because of the way outputs work, a refund goes back to you)

taek [1:30 PM]
that new address is not in your backup in the old versions

taek [1:30 PM]
(in 0.4.0, it IS in your backup, because it's a pregenerated address)

cryptoscalper [1:30 PM]
oh yeah...  i recall going over this before...  my bad

mishax1 [1:30 PM]
my 3.3.3 still shows a single address

mishax1 [1:31 PM]
what can i do to recover my wallet to 3.3.3 ?

taek [1:40 PM]
if you don't have a backup there isn't anything you can do

taek [1:40 PM]
but if you can find a backup with more than 1 address, then you might get your coins back

mishax1 [1:44 PM]
i didnt backup sia

mishax1 [1:48 PM]
my .config  wallet was modified in june

mishax1 [1:48 PM]
can i recover from it ?

taek [1:51 PM]
unlikely

chanc3r [2:00 PM]
@taek how about (last ditch attempt)
mishax1 searches  user directory tree for all sia wallet.dat files
make unique copies wallet01.dat wallet02.dat etc
ie collect them all together (their may be only 2) in win64\resources\app\Sia\wallet
feed them 1 at a time into the 0.3.3.3 wallet directory
copy wallet01.dat wallet.dat - run Sia - check balance
copy wallet02.dat wallet.dat - run Sia check balance

taek [2:01 PM]
it's possible that it would turn up something

taek [2:01 PM]
but I am not optimistic

taek [2:01 PM]
he'd want to search for wallet.dat and wallet.bak

chanc3r [2:11 PM]
true

mishax1 [2:24 PM]
cant find any .bak

mishax1 [2:24 PM]
i guess that the client fucked me over again

mishax1 [2:24 PM]
unfuckingbelivable

mishax1 [2:25 PM]
taek that one is on your head.

mishax1 [2:27 PM]
its the second time the client messed up my wallet , and its not even the same bug

mishax1 [2:28 PM]
3.2m sia..

taek [2:28 PM]
the warning hasn't changed: don't open 0.3.3.2

mishax1 [2:29 PM]
3.3.2 wasnt the problem

taek [2:31 PM]
I'm not sure what else would have done it

mishax1 [2:31 PM]
i still have that 3.3.3 with that singe address

taek [2:32 PM]
Nobody else has been having problems like that with 0.3.3.3

taek [2:32 PM]
afaik nobody has lost coins from using exclusively 0.3.3.3

mishax1 [2:32 PM]
i dont know what to tell you

mishax1 [2:33 PM]
i was mining sia and due to wrong msi afterburner settings my pc froze

mishax1 [2:33 PM]
i had to restart it and thats when the problem appeared , as a 0 balance wallet with a singe new address on 3.3.3

taek [2:34 PM]
you failed to mention that your computer froze

mishax1 [2:34 PM]
i did mention it

mishax1 [2:35 PM]
how does it make any difference ?

taek [2:36 PM]
I don't see it in the logs, but maybe I'm missing it. It's pretty late.

taek [2:36 PM]
Honestly I don't think it should make a difference

taek [2:36 PM]
the wallet saves itself every time it generates a new address

taek [2:36 PM]
if your computer froze at the exact wrong time, there might have been an issue but the window is only a few milliseconds wide

taek [2:36 PM]
if it even exists at all

taek [2:37 PM]
so I don't think it would have made a difference

taek [2:37 PM]
I don't know why your coins disappeared, but if you opened 0.3.3.2 it would have replaced your 0.3.3.3 wallet with the wallet that was being used by 0.3.3.2 whenever the last time you opened it was

taek [2:37 PM]
which is how I'm guessing you lost the coins

taek [2:38 PM]
*the coins were lost

mishax1 [2:40 PM]
3.3.2 and 3.3.3 were suppose to have the same wallet file

mishax1 [2:40 PM]
anyways.. the 3.3.3 still have that singe address wallet ,  why 3.3.2 doesnt replace it right now ?

taek [2:41 PM]
I am not sure, I would have expected 0.3.3.2 to have the same wallet at this point

mishax1 [2:42 PM]
well it doesnt.. so there is a hole in your theory..

taek [2:43 PM]
=/ guess so

mishax1 [2:58 PM]
you said i should be looking for wallet .bak , but there arent any..

taek [2:58 PM]
it's been a while, and I forget the exact behavior, but the early versions of the wallet all made backups

taek [2:58 PM]
automatically

taek [2:59 PM]
in the same folder as the regular wallet

mishax1 [3:02 PM]
wallet.backup not .bak i guess

taek [3:03 PM]
oh. my mistake

mishax1 [3:03 PM]
how does .backup help me ?

taek [3:03 PM]
it might have the address with the coins

taek [3:03 PM]
unlikely at this point, but there's a chance

taek [3:04 PM]
first move should always be to backup existing files somewhere safe

taek [3:04 PM]
then you should shut down siad and replace wallet.dat with wallet.backup

taek [3:04 PM]
please only run 0.3.3.3

taek [3:04 PM]
run siad, and see if it finds the coins that got lost (edited)

chanc3r [3:06 PM]
mishax1 - if you copy wallet.backup to wallet.dat then start sia it will use that backup file as the wallet

chanc3r [3:07 PM]
I always load my wallet files into keepass with my other passwords which can store them encrypted and then backup the encrypted files to USB / CD etc and put in a safe :simple_smile:

taek [3:08 PM]
I am really sorry about the lost coins. It was avoidable, but the early versions of the wallet are poorly implemented

taek [3:09 PM]
we made several novice mistakes that combined make everything kind of fragile

taek [3:09 PM]
but it is a risk inherent to using beta software

mishax1 [3:15 PM]
what abou .config wallet file ? what should i do with it ?

taek [3:17 PM]
(I swear we're writing an faq soon)

taek [3:18 PM]
I'm pretty sure that you just want to keep the same .config file

chanc3r [3:20 PM]
@mishax1 when you run 0.3.3.3 do you have any coins in that wallet?

chanc3r [3:20 PM]
@taek but hopefully not with issues like this :confused:

mishax1 [3:25 PM]
what i ran 3.3.3 after the pc crashed it was empty with a new address (wallet)

taek [3:26 PM]
that seems odd.  That would indicate that the old file got destroyed completely

taek [3:26 PM]
not just corrupted but disappeared altogether

mishax1 [3:29 PM]
wonder how..

mishax1 [3:38 PM]
can i try the 0.4.0 to recover the coins Huh

mishax1 [3:39 PM]
i'm getting pissed of with these bugs alrady

chanc3r [3:41 PM]
mishax1 0.4.0 will not do anything magic let stick with 0.3.3.3 and 0.3.2
if the wallet containing the private key to your previous address is no-longer on your PC then anything to do with that wallet is lost forever
this is the same with ALL crypto - if the private key is lost then it can never be recovered

mishax1 [3:42 PM]
but it is on my pc...

chanc3r [3:42 PM]
now you have 2 copies of Sia - yes - 0.3.3.3 and 0.3.2 ? yes/no (edited)

chanc3r [3:44 PM]
when you run 0.3.3.3 you get a wallet with a ‘new address’ and 0KS?

mishax1 [3:44 PM]
yeah

chanc3r [3:45 PM]
when you sent the transaction of 2M coins it was from 0.3.2 or 0.3.3.3?

mishax1 [3:46 PM]
332 since i panicked that i might lose all coins again like before

chanc3r [3:46 PM]
ok

chanc3r [3:47 PM]
so looking back you sent 2M or 3M coins from 0.3.2 wallet to an address?

mishax1 [3:47 PM]
note that 3.3.2 was empty before... (coz i lost all coins)

chanc3r [3:47 PM]
you started this with my wallet lost 3M coins again

cryptoscalper [3:48 PM]
hey...  didn't 0.3.3.2 create a wallet folder into two different places?  maybe that's why 0.3.3.3 is still showing the same address

chanc3r [3:48 PM]
shh we covered that read up.. trying to do this slowly!

mishax1 [3:48 PM]
yeah.  i had 5m in 333    and 0 at 332 (since the last incident.

cryptoscalper [3:49 PM]
@chanc3r:  oops...  i'll read more carefully next time (edited)

chanc3r [3:49 PM]
so you had a 333 wallet showing 5m

mishax1 [3:49 PM]
then after the freezing and pc restart i found that 333 had 0 coins and some new address

mishax1 [3:49 PM]
333 and 332 had the same wallet files

mishax1 [3:50 PM]
so i opened 332 and found 2m

chanc3r [3:51 PM]
so when you upgraded previously you copied the wallet.dat from 332 to the 333 directory because they have then in different places

mishax1 [3:51 PM]
yeah i copied the wallet files.

chanc3r [3:52 PM]
so when did the balance on your 3.3.3 wallet become 5m?

mishax1 [3:53 PM]
bought 1 a week ago, mined a few the passed months..

chanc3r [3:53 PM]
ok

mishax1 [3:54 PM]
i believe the previous issue with 332 and 333 was on a different pc... not im not sure anymore

chanc3r [3:54 PM]
and your address under 3.3.3 and 3.3.2 until the crash was the same yes/no?
and when you ran 3.3.2 this was your old address yes/no?

chanc3r [3:55 PM]
when you checked the balance on 3.3.2 did you notice if it had any peers and if the block height was current?

chanc3r [3:58 PM]
basically if the answer is yes, yes, dont know or ‘no’ then
make sure no sia is running
under 3.3.3 folder
cd win64\resources\app\Sia\wallet
mkdir temp
copy wallet.* temp (get the wallets out of the way)
copy $HOME/.config/Sia/wallet/wallet.dat . (copies 3.2 wallet back to 3.3)
start Sia
your original address from 3.2 should be there
your balance is what it is…. (edited)

chanc3r [4:01 PM]
you may be lucky and you may have only seen 2M in a rush with the 3.2 sia if it wasnt synced and it may be there if the 3.2 and 3,3 wallet.dat were indeed the same

mishax1 [4:05 PM]
do you mean, to try .config wallet on 333 ?  did that.

mishax1 [4:07 PM]
i now have 5 addresses in that wallet and balance is 0

chanc3r [4:57 PM]
:confused:

andyatcrux [7:23 PM]
3.3.2 has been flagged as a do-not-use wallet for some time now. I know that when I open 3.3.3 if often shows no balance and sometimes will reload the blockchain if I have not started it in a while. mishax1, you may have just needed to wait. Your 5 million coins were probably there. Sorry to hear this happened to you.

mishax1 [9:13 PM]
@taek: can you give me 0.4.0 to try and recover the coins ?

taek [9:16 PM]
0.4.0 can't read the old wallets. If 0.3.3.3 can't find them, there's nothing more we can do.

mishax1 [9:17 PM]
so how do you upgrade to 0.4.0 ?

chanc3r [9:19 PM]
very carefully :sweat: :bomb:

mishax1 [9:20 PM]
when will the block explorer will be ready ?

mishax1 [9:22 PM]
for fucks sake those 3.2m were 50% of my sia :triumph:

chanc3r [9:28 PM]
explore.siacoin.com seems to be back

mishax1 [9:29 PM]
that doesnt help

mishax1 [9:29 PM]
I dont know the block height

mishax1 [9:29 PM]
doesnt

mishax1 [9:31 PM]
dont

mishax1 [9:32 PM]
blat

taek [9:46 PM]
oh yes, explore.siacoin.com has been back for about 4 hours I believe

taek [9:46 PM]
forgot to mention

chanc3r [11:16 PM]
mishax1 what was the address that held the coins

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mishax1 [8:08 AM]
@chanc3r:  should be one of these
8a3f2b80819f9798533bd391da58298d8e2eab4ce6dc76d70ec186de613638020d2fc0e5842f
8e6adacf188057eb571f3a3683d51150145a61932008a927683b125b4170d2a30b99cfd7e323
9e72c7c9eaa92bca0ac0beeb279462055e166c48f0d0f3f03aded37d1c98b5cb9be1b59ee9a8
edc7c90282b0259fe4f441ed9432c52459ca79212a48d0b181af153bc1f6b3a9316b2d263a96

taek [8:10 AM]
http://explore.siacoin.com/hash?h=edc7c90282b0259fe4f441ed9432c52459ca79212a48d0b181af153bc1f6b3a9316b2d263a96&submit=Submit

taek [8:11 AM]
the last addr received 1M siacoins

taek [8:11 AM]
but that address has never sent any siacoins at all

taek [8:11 AM]
all the other addresses are completely blank, meaning they've never been involved in transactions either

taek [8:12 AM]
so you should still have the 1M, and the rest of the money was never in those addresses

mishax1 [8:12 AM]
i bought 1m lately using that address. (edc7...)

mishax1 [8:14 AM]
so whats the problem ? why am i seeing 0 balance ?

taek [8:16 AM]
Is your height up to date?

taek [8:17 AM]
if you have the edc7c address in your wallet, then there is definitely 1M in the wallet

mishax1 [8:22 AM]
it now is.

mishax1 [8:26 AM]
and where are the rest of the coins ? if these addresses havent been used, where did the mined coins went ?

taek [10:30 AM]
either they went to different addresses (most likely) or the coins never existed

mishax1 [10:50 AM]
what different addresses ? and why havent I seen any of these different addresses ?

mishax1 [10:54 AM]
what am i suppose to do with that information..  ?  wtf

taek [10:57 AM]
the miner mines into addresses that are not displayed on the UI

taek [10:58 AM]
each block gets a different address that the reward pays out to

mishax1 [11:00 AM]
and let me guess.. there is no record of that..

taek [11:01 AM]
there's not an easy way to display those addresses

mishax1 [11:07 AM]
and ?

taek [11:11 AM]
I'm sorry but I do not think that there is any way for you to recover the coins that were lost
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August 28, 2015, 08:48:33 AM
 #1636

An important note is that Sia is in beta. One of the earlier versions, 0.3.3.2 had a very poorly designed wallet, such that it destroyed addresses with coins in them. This has been known for months. Mishax1 opened this client, which has been flagged as dangerous, prior to opening the discussion. It's very likely that the coins could have been recovered had 0.3.3.2 not been opened.

We strongly encourage users to avoid using all but the latest versions of the software. This will continue to be true for as long as Sia is in beta. I think it is reasonable to assume that Sia will be in beta until at least December.

Other than mishax1, I am not aware of any users who have lost coins due to bugs in the 0.3.3.3 wallet.

The 0.4.0 wallet that is currently under construction has very strong protections against losing coins, and has been very carefully designed to be both easy and foolproof.

We do apologize to everyone who lost coins because of the faulty 0.3.3.2 release. There were numerous reports of lost coins.
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August 28, 2015, 08:55:32 AM
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Well, like it was said in the chat, 0.3.3.3 showed 0 balance and no wallet addresses (but a single new address) after my pc froze and restarted due to wrong oc settings.

And the fact that wallet.dat cannot be used to recover any funds/addresses from minded coins/private keys is bizarre and disturbing nor any record of your mined of your mined coins can be found.
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August 28, 2015, 09:04:54 AM
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Well, like it was said in the chat, 0.3.3.3 showed 0 balance and no wallet addresses (but a single new address) after my pc froze and restarted due to wrong oc settings.

And the fact that wallet.dat cannot be used to recover any funds/addresses from minded coins/private keys is bizarre and disturbing.

As stated on the slack, the fact that your wallet had 0 balance and 0 old addresses after your pc froze means that you were actually looking at a completely fresh wallet.dat. It should not be surprising that a new wallet cannot be used to recover a lost wallet. You need the old wallet.

I will also take the time now to warn about a quirk in 0.3.3.3: any time that you spend coins, a new address is created and some of your existing coins are sent to that address (this is because of how the output system in Sia works - our output system is the same as Bitcoin's output system). That means that if you back up your wallet and then spend coins, there will be coins in the wallet that are not backed up.

We have solved this problem, along with some smaller issues, in 0.4.0. We apologize for the rocky road that accompanies our beta software, but hope you do understand that we're still in the earlier phases of development and roadbumps are to be expected.
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August 28, 2015, 09:32:26 AM
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I can not get the wallet to sync, both CLI or GUI versions. I run the cmd prompt to get siad.exe to run and siac.exe, or I use the GUI instead of siac.exe. Am I doing something wrong? When I use the GUI version it just stays on block 1 with no connection, I've let it stay on for 3 hours with nothing going on. Any help is greatly appreciated in advance.

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August 28, 2015, 10:59:03 AM
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I can not get the wallet to sync, both CLI or GUI versions. I run the cmd prompt to get siad.exe to run and siac.exe, or I use the GUI instead of siac.exe. Am I doing something wrong? When I use the GUI version it just stays on block 1 with no connection, I've let it stay on for 3 hours with nothing going on. Any help is greatly appreciated in advance.

I bought some SC to play around with and thought I'd try out the wallet but I'm having the same problem. I'm using the GUI version. Hoping someone can help out.

Also, is there 0.4 windows compiled binary available as I can't find it on your main site.

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