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May 26, 2017, 07:42:59 AM
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http://files.meetup.com/12568742/2015%2005%2004%20the-bitcoin-revolution%20(1).pdf


1995: January 1, Laissez Faire City is first created, owned by BFL's Sonny Vleisides and his real dad, James Ray Houston.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Orlin_Grabbe#60_Minutes_Investigation

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Grabbe wrote articles and essays about personal freedom and governmental abuse, and was an editor of Internet magazines such as the Laissez Faire City Times.

And who was the original editor of the Laissez Faire City Times?

Sonny Vleisides.

And when did James Orlin Grabbe supposedly died?

March 15, 2008

And when was Satoshi Nakamoto's Bitcoin white paper released?

October 31, 2008.

And who was directly connected to a many cyberpunks and had access to excellent coders?

James Orlin Grabbe.

And why was Sonny Vleisides never returned to prison in spite of breaking his probation on myriad occasions?

This: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=36844.msg453154#msg453154

That's all I'm sayin'!

PS: And who gets to visit North Korean under the auspices of a vacation?

Josh Zerlan.

Speaking of Founder Funds ...

The firm was organized by Peter Thiel, Ken Howery, and Luke Nosek in early 2005 and raised its first fund of $50 million from individual entrepreneurs and angel investors in January of that year. Sean Parker, Co founder of Napster and ex-president of Facebook, joined in 2006.[1] In 2007, the firm raised a new fund of $220 million.

Can you name an entity they funded which illegal exchanged over U$10M worth of bitcoins to various bank accounts controlled by Sonny Vleisides?

One more thing: Peter Theil = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies
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May 28, 2017, 06:48:33 AM
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Gleb went to meet Hashfast or some other scam miner maker,he was at THEIR office & had done a video apology....

Oh the memories!!!  Cheesy

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day long, you are the asshole."  -Raylan Givens
Got GOXXED ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiqRpPiJAU&feature=youtu.be
"An ASIC being late is perfectly normal, predictable, and legal..."Hashfast & BFL slogan Smiley
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May 28, 2017, 03:40:39 PM
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Gleb went to meet Hashfast or some other scam miner maker,he was at THEIR office & had done a video apology....

Oh the memories!!!  Cheesy

I heard the same rumor. That was 100% fucked up. That cocksucker should have his ... FUCK ME! I logged in with the wrong account.
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May 29, 2017, 06:17:14 AM
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Gleb went to meet Hashfast or some other scam miner maker,he was at THEIR office & had done a video apology....

Oh the memories!!!  Cheesy

I heard the same rumor. That was 100% fucked up. That cocksucker should have his ... FUCK ME! I logged in with the wrong account.

Ain't no rumor bro,you remember the guy had you say you lied & were sorry on video,can't remember the ASIC maker......been sooo long ago....

Oh & he gave you a miner,think you sold it a year later or sooner maybe.......it was under your Bruno account  Wink

Edit:Phinneaus Gage account...my bad  Roll Eyes

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June 14, 2017, 06:40:17 PM
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Just when you thought that the Sonny Vleisides saga couldn't get any stranger, I've got some bad news for you sunshine ...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm8150834/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t51


A female FBI agent is offered millions to help a thief escape from a hijacked airplane.

Sonny Vleisides is now an FBI agent.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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June 14, 2017, 08:30:49 PM
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[...] Sonny Vleisides is now an FBI agent.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

And probably a very confincing one, at that... Oh the irony...  Grin

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Get a HUGE 3% discount with promo code: MOON @ Genesis Mining
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June 15, 2017, 12:55:46 PM
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[...] Sonny Vleisides is now an FBI agent.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

And probably a very confincing one, at that... Oh the irony...  Grin

Imagine the small talk between actors between takes:

Sonny: I'm Sonny Vleisides.
Fellow Actor: Sec, while I Google that. Ahhhh, you're the Bitcoin dude who scammed closed to U$100M during your lifetime in various scams stemming from 1995 forward.
Sonny: <sticks his chest out> THAT'S ME! But I'm on a good track now. I'm playin' Officer Jones in this movie. Wanna see my FBI badge?

The reviews are starting to come in: http://valleywag.gawker.com/bitcoin-mining-company-screwed-customers-and-bought-gun-1638224170

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Vleisides and partner Nasser Ghoseiri (left) went on to become some of the most hated actors in Bitcoin world, earning Kansas-based BFL a notoriously unscrupulous and scammy reputation, even in a fledgling finance sector that's no stranger to unscrupulousness.
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June 16, 2017, 07:51:34 AM
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[...] Imagine the small talk between actors between takes:

Sonny: I'm Sonny Vleisides.
Fellow Actor: Sec, while I Google that. Ahhhh, you're the Bitcoin dude who scammed closed to U$100M during your lifetime in various scams stemming from 1995 forward.
Sonny: <sticks his chest out> THAT'S ME! But I'm on a good track now. I'm playin' Officer Jones in this movie. Wanna see my FBI badge?[...]

Fellow Actor: Where's my miner? You no ship!!!
Weird looking parachute jumper dude: In two weeks!!!

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June 16, 2017, 01:18:29 PM
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[...] Imagine the small talk between actors between takes:

Sonny: I'm Sonny Vleisides.
Fellow Actor: Sec, while I Google that. Ahhhh, you're the Bitcoin dude who scammed closed to U$100M during your lifetime in various scams stemming from 1995 forward.
Sonny: <sticks his chest out> THAT'S ME! But I'm on a good track now. I'm playin' Officer Jones in this movie. Wanna see my FBI badge?[...]

Fellow Actor: Where's my miner? You no ship!!!
Weird looking parachute jumper dude: In two weeks!!!

That's funny, bud, just as funny as the only guy part of the BFL fiasco to be successfully found guilty of a crime, now serving his third year under surveillance (can't stalk 26163 West 108th Terrace, Olathe, Kansas 66061), namely the dude penning this post thanks to weird looking parachute jumper dude who feared for his life because I posted a pic of his BTC-house master bathroom on his birthday while we here were enjoying sticking it up his ass for stolen valor causing him to edit his bio on BFL's Nefarious Actors page.
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June 16, 2017, 02:15:31 PM
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[...] the only guy part of the BFL fiasco to be successfully found guilty of a crime, now serving his third year under surveillance (can't stalk 26163 West 108th Terrace, Olathe, Kansas 66061), namely the dude penning this post thanks to weird looking parachute jumper dude who feared for his life because I posted a pic of his BTC-house master bathroom on his birthday while we here were enjoying sticking it up his ass for stolen valor causing him to edit his bio on BFL's Nefarious Actors page.

After actually buying an AR-15 of customers... I mean; BFL's company funds...  Lips sealed

PS. has it been three years allready?  Shocked

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June 16, 2017, 03:56:49 PM
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[...] the only guy part of the BFL fiasco to be successfully found guilty of a crime, now serving his third year under surveillance (can't stalk 26163 West 108th Terrace, Olathe, Kansas 66061), namely the dude penning this post thanks to weird looking parachute jumper dude who feared for his life because I posted a pic of his BTC-house master bathroom on his birthday while we here were enjoying sticking it up his ass for stolen valor causing him to edit his bio on BFL's Nefarious Actors page.

After actually buying an AR-15 of customers... I mean; BFL's company funds...  Lips sealed

PS. has it been three years allready?  Shocked

They say that if I behave, I can have the ankle bracelet removed in three more years.  Cry Cry Cry

If you or I were on probation for committing a felony, you would be locked up if you had a weapon located at the business which you own regardless who owns it, especially if it were purchased with company moneys. But in Sonny Vleisides case, he merely gets slapped on the wrist again and offered to play an FBI agent in a movie.

Further, you or I would be hard-pressed to visit North Korea, but Josh Zerlan had no problems crossing the border. Now that furry pervert is fondling teens at some skydive venture in KC while one of BFL's thieves, Bruce Peterson, is back at home living with mommy.

Speaking of honey badgers not giving a shit, I once got a call from the Nevada, Iowa, police department instructing me that I'm no longer allowed to evoke the name Bruce Peterson, so I won't.  Roll Eyes

One more thing, if you had a business that accepted bitcoins and used BitPay as your third-party payment provider, once they send you a dollars worth of bitcoins, you can't sit on it for a spell, then sent the coins back to them so to be converted to fiat and sent to your bank because ... wait for it ... BitPay IS NOT an exchange and NOT licensed to conduct such. BUT, if you're Sonny Vleisides, you can get tens of millions of dollars of bitcoins via BitPay for purchases of miners, sit on the coins, then later convert tens of millions worth of bitcoins into fiat via BitPay, directed to various bank accounts, with Sonny NOT suffering any subsequences. In fact, the FTC confiscated the wallet address I'm alluding to, then ... wait for it AGAIN ... gave it back to Sonny, whereupon he was able to pick up where he left off.

One more thing, under the watchful eye of Sonny's probation officer, he funded a charity, then took all the funds outta the charity and used it ALL to pay BFL bills. I'm pretty sure that some bubba would be fuckin you or I in the ass right about now if we pulled such a stunt.

Here's a good one! http://waynedupree.com/trump-supporter-trump-protester-becomes-friends-media-ignores-will/ (guess which one's the Trump supporter)
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June 17, 2017, 01:06:34 PM
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thanks to weird looking parachute jumper dude who feared for his life

Josh Zerlan is a bigger faggot than I am. He should have been part of the trial.

Remember that time he cried when the courts posted his unredacted SSN in the early version of his testimony ? That was beautiful.

I hope the guy spends the rest of his life fighting off identity theft, and looking over his shoulder.

You wanna buy from me his SSN and DL#. Oh wait, that was another reason Josh gave the courts for fearing for the lives of himself, wife and kids, kids that he claimed he didn't have during the deposition but were disclosed on my restraining order. This fuckin piece of shit needs his balls cut off and fed to him.

That said, I have no fuckin idea why the judge thought that I was a threat to Josh Zerlan.  Roll Eyes

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16 Q And have you been married before then?
17 A Yes.
18 Q And what was that - what was your former spouse
19 name?
20 A Candace Carroll.
21 Q And what is her date of birth?
22 A I don't know.
23 Q Do you have any children?
24 A I do not.

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2 Q And do you understand that false testimony during
3 this deposition may subject you to perjury
4 charges?
5 A Yes, I do.

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5 aliases?
6 A Just Josh.

7. Q What's an Inaba?
8. A Excuse me.
9. Q Inaba?
10. A Never heard of it.
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8 Q And do you have an approximation of about how much
9 mining revenue goes into the active wallet on a
10 monthly basis?
11 A I would have no idea. I
12 Q And you said you have no idea.
13 Do you monitor that wallet at all?
14 A No.
15 Q Do you use that wallet?
16 A NO
17 Q Do you have access to it?
18 A No.

That's odd! Josh claimed he didn't have access to the wallet depicted above (nor any other BFL wallets), yet he paid me 10 BTC directly from one of them wallets to satisfy a bet, where a year later BFL sent me a 1099 for them 10 BTC.

I hate to say it, but I'm leaning heavily toward Josh Zerlan being a lyin' piece of shit. I reserve the right to retract that statement in some future life (or in two weeks, whichever comes first) if definitively proven that I was in error in my assessment in this life.
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April 01, 2019, 09:18:42 PM
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what are doing the scammer frsom Butterfly Labs, HashFast and others now?

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April 01, 2019, 09:44:01 PM
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what are doing the scammer frsom Butterfly Labs, HashFast and others now?

Last time I contacted BFL I was told they're supposedly still sending small refunds out occasionally.  That was a few years ago and probably wasn't even true at the time though, so...

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what are doing the scammer frsom Butterfly Labs, HashFast and others now?

Last time I contacted BFL I was told they're supposedly still sending small refunds out occasionally.  That was a few years ago and probably wasn't even true at the time though, so...

I did not choose to get payed back in Bitcoin. Instead I wanted my Fiat back from them. never heard anything from them.

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April 02, 2019, 08:19:24 AM
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what are doing the scammer frsom Butterfly Labs, HashFast and others now?

Last time I contacted BFL I was told they're supposedly still sending small refunds out occasionally.  That was a few years ago and probably wasn't even true at the time though, so...

I did not choose to get payed back in Bitcoin. Instead I wanted my Fiat back from them. never heard anything from them.

Took (and got) the refund (back then). Happy to have recuperated part of my "investment"... Last I "heard" Josh was working at some indoor-parachute-diving company. And Sonny Vleisides I guess is enjoying the fruits of his "work" somewhere, designing his next "product"... Or he's switched to acting...

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April 02, 2019, 06:05:32 PM
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what are doing the scammer frsom Butterfly Labs, HashFast and others now?

Last time I contacted BFL I was told they're supposedly still sending small refunds out occasionally.  That was a few years ago and probably wasn't even true at the time though, so...

I did not choose to get payed back in Bitcoin. Instead I wanted my Fiat back from them. never heard anything from them.

Took (and got) the refund (back then). Happy to have recuperated part of my "investment"... Last I "heard" Josh was working at some indoor-parachute-diving company. And Sonny Vleisides I guess is enjoying the fruits of his "work" somewhere, designing his next "product"... Or he's switched to acting...

I had several orders.  I basically tried every option.  The only thing that panned out was the delivery of units, which if I had to do over again I would have requested delivery of them all so that some funds could be recovered.  I think I lost somewhere around 400 BTC as a result of BFL's incompetence.  Shocking that they didn't refund anything to the remaining customers and avoided lengthy jail sentences.

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Shocking that they didn't refund anything to the remaining customers and avoided lengthy jail sentences.

You've got the FTC to thank for that. BFL were likely to deliver a large number of units, but the FTC came in, squatted on the company, billing charging $1m+ a month in professional fees until the company ran out of money. It was a weird situation, and I doubt the FTC person in charge did much for their careers.

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