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October 01, 2013, 11:20:04 AM
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You guys should collectively sue BFL. Seriously. It's unbeliveable how much money they have scammed.

It is not unlawful to delay pre-orders, but when someone behaves unethically and with contempt, tends to cross other lines and commit accessory crimes.

Dude, look around you, The sytem is failing from west to east, Josh and his cronnies knew this. YOU WILL BE ABLE DO NOTHING AS THE SYSTEM IS/AS ALWAYS BEEN BROKE!

No one will see or get anywhere with anything they do with BFL as the whole way everyone around the world does business is collapsing in every sector with no hope of recovery. This is the world we've allowed to take place and we will pay the price very soon.

But for the few that realise whats going on, They will position themselves in places of VAST opportunity all around the world. You know more millionaires were created the year after the great depression happened! In every disaster (AND IT IS A HUGE DISASTER WERE IN/COMING) the is more opportunity than any other time.

Look up swarm wise and get the picture of how to put yourself in a position of oppertunity, THats if you got any brains as it seems a lot around here still believe that 999/911 is there to help you! That the goverments knows its arse from its mouth and that 'we can get through this'!

WAKE THE FUCK UP!

YOU WILL SEE NOTHING BACK FROM YOUR MISTAKES (ORDERING FROM BFL). Face the music and move on!
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October 02, 2013, 03:40:12 AM
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I didn't buy anything from BFL, so I'm fine. But are you trying to say that people shouldn't sue BFL?

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October 02, 2013, 11:53:43 AM
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I didn't buy anything from BFL, so I'm fine. But are you trying to say that people shouldn't sue BFL?
If it makes them feel better then yes, My point is, what will it get you when the system is collapsing.

i.e - There more pressing matters than josh the spunk bubble and his cronies... The global gansters are losing there grip and bitcoin could be a powerful tool. Don't waste your time/effort on scum like BFL...

is i suppose what i'm saying ;-)

I will be putting mine up on a mantal as a reminder of bitcoins not so pleasant history, but will always make me giggle thinking of josh. going have rip that 2012 meeting at bitcoin conference in london. It's even funnier as of 30th sept 2013......

'2 more weeks'.

So many classic quotes
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October 02, 2013, 02:33:23 PM
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Guys, please dont buy anything from BFL anymore. Especially pre-order!!

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October 02, 2013, 03:10:07 PM
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Yes...please do not buy anything from BFL!

I bought a little single back in may.  I'm looking at, if I'm lucky, getting mine by the end of october.  I'm gonna have to run that joker forever to even make my $$$ back.

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October 07, 2013, 09:52:10 PM
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Yes...please do not buy anything from BFL!

I bought a little single back in may.  I'm looking at, if I'm lucky, getting mine by the end of october.  I'm gonna have to run that joker forever to even make my $$$ back.


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October 07, 2013, 10:13:47 PM
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haha man I'm so glad I paid with a CC!! Got a refund a few weeks back and never looked back. BFL will be bankrupt sometime next year.
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October 07, 2013, 10:48:56 PM
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Guys, please dont buy anything from BFL anymore. Especially pre-order!!


Funny, does BFL ever have in-stock miner  Smiley

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October 07, 2013, 10:59:31 PM
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haha man I'm so glad I paid with a CC!! Got a refund a few weeks back and never looked back. BFL will be bankrupt sometime next year.

Ive just argued this point in another post , i agree i belive there company has no future i can and have bought Bluefurys cheaper and faster than a BFL Machine lol
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October 08, 2013, 01:20:55 AM
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From a gentlemen on the BFL Forums:


There are some VERY poor design choices on that board:

While a switch to what appears to be a 5-phase regulator per chip is a very good design choice, the choice to use a non-synchronous regulator (you can spot one of these by the need to use a diode(s) in the power path) is very poor.

1/ Synchronous regulators are more efficient than non-synchronous regulators, particularly at low voltages.
2/ Non-synchronous regulators require a diode powerful enough to handle the full current of the output. (That's a BIG diode!)
3/ BFL engineers appear to think they can use lots of smaller diodes in parallel instead of one big diode - that's a big no-no! Google 'diodes in parallel' if you care to know why!

I can't remember the last time I saw a motherboard which had anything other than a multi-phase synchronous regulator for the CPU - and they don't have to deliver as much power as the Monarch does!


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So it is very likely we are going down the same path, attach the chips, plug it in, it burns up,
start again. See you in March.

Dejavu all over again.


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October 15, 2013, 05:16:12 AM
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They still have 45 days of shipping on each product line,
only moving 3 days per line per day.

Might clear April in 3 more weeks, so the "2 weeks or so" will end up being 5 weeks.

That's pretty good for the Monkey crew considering 2 weeks usually equals 5 months.

What is absolutely staggering to me is we are talking about them clearing April 2013 orders!!! Not getting caught up, when they make this milestone then they will be 6 MONTHS BEHIND STILL!!

Sadly those with order numbers of 40,50,60,000

When the package comes just throw it away, it will be Feb 2014 and you won't mine a single coin.

So sad.



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October 15, 2013, 07:13:00 PM
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I got my BFL 60Gh/s miner and I'll be stoked to break even (and I ordered mine in early Feb).  Anyone that hasn't received their miner from BFL should just get a refund now of (if you're desperate to stay in the game) upgrade to the Monarch and risk the exact same thing happening.  I hate to say it, but BFL is a scam.  My miner came back with scratches all over and a fan that was broken.   I'm pretty sure those dirtbags mined with it before shipping it (why else would it look used). 
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October 16, 2013, 03:12:40 PM
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Anybody have successfully receive any refund from pre-order? I would really like to know..

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October 16, 2013, 11:08:45 PM
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I got my BFL 60Gh/s miner and I'll be stoked to break even (and I ordered mine in early Feb).  Anyone that hasn't received their miner from BFL should just get a refund now of (if you're desperate to stay in the game) upgrade to the Monarch and risk the exact same thing happening.  I hate to say it, but BFL is a scam.  My miner came back with scratches all over and a fan that was broken.   I'm pretty sure those dirtbags mined with it before shipping it (why else would it look used). 

Would you rather be shipped a dysfunctional miner, or had them test it before they shipped it? (Assuming the broken fan was from poor shipping)
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October 16, 2013, 11:14:45 PM
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Anybody have successfully receive any refund from pre-order? I would really like to know..

i am curious about that too , i have 2 order and not processing at all .
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October 17, 2013, 12:22:12 AM
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Anybody have successfully receive any refund from pre-order? I would really like to know..

i am curious about that too , i have 2 order and not processing at all .

many people got refunds.  I got a refund of around $6k about 90 days after I ordered by calling American Express which did a charge back to paypal which contacted BFL.  They didn't hear back so Paypal gave me the full refund to my Amex..

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October 17, 2013, 12:28:22 AM
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Anybody have successfully receive any refund from pre-order? I would really like to know..

i am curious about that too , i have 2 order and not processing at all .

many people got refunds.  I got a refund of around $6k about 90 days after I ordered by calling American Express which did a charge back to paypal which contacted BFL.  They didn't hear back so Paypal gave me the full refund to my Amex..



what about after 5 month of order ? any idea or suggest ?
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October 17, 2013, 01:29:06 AM
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Anybody have successfully receive any refund from pre-order? I would really like to know..

i am curious about that too , i have 2 order and not processing at all .

many people got refunds.  I got a refund of around $6k about 90 days after I ordered by calling American Express which did a charge back to paypal which contacted BFL.  They didn't hear back so Paypal gave me the full refund to my Amex..



what about after 5 month of order ? any idea or suggest ?

I guess it should also work if you pay by credit card.

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October 17, 2013, 03:46:56 AM
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how much did they actualy scam  , i heard they still sending the rig on thier forum
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October 17, 2013, 07:43:23 AM
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how much did they actualy scam  , i heard they still sending the rig on thier forum

The scam is the delay, they will send you the unit with the spec you ordered when it is not profitable anymore.

But to be fair, those waiting almost one year got it when it was profitable

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