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August 19, 2013, 07:14:38 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jYNMKdv36w

Now Josh pissed hitler off. When will it end Sad

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August 19, 2013, 08:34:08 PM
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I am so glad I decided not to get one of these from BFL. I'm not quite gonna call it a scam since its easier to assume they just failed completely to make any of their own targets.

The Bit Eruptor are quite nice, and I like the turn around on the orders.  Grin
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August 19, 2013, 11:32:00 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jYNMKdv36w

Now Josh pissed hitler off. When will it end Sad

I just added a link to this thread in the youtube description!

Hitler Finds out about the Butterfly Labs Monarch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jYNMKdv36w
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August 20, 2013, 01:56:09 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jYNMKdv36w

Now Josh pissed hitler off. When will it end Sad

I just added a link to this thread in the youtube description!

Hehe nice 1
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August 20, 2013, 05:17:28 AM
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I find it funny. I paid for my BFL hardware exactly three days before the first post on this thread. Personally I now can say that I was not scammed by BFL.

Now to be honest BFL is a bull-shit company, they lied with the Two Weeks again and again, now they are pulling some new bull shit with this Monarch Card crap, a terrible company.

But I finally recieved my hardware, and I will reach ROI by the end of the year.

Now they certainly scammed the community shipping time wise but I do not think they ever intended to take pre-order money and not deliver a product.

I think that BFL is a grossly mismanaged company with a whiny child like PR guy (sorry Josh, but real companies don't bitch on a public forum). But come on, what is BFL doing that Avalon hasn't at this point? I don't see people calling for Yifu to get a scammer tag.



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August 20, 2013, 11:21:44 AM
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Although their delivery schedule and business practice may be unsatisfactory, saying it's a "scam" seems like overstating the case.
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August 20, 2013, 12:52:59 PM
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I think they are just slow on shipping. they are probably not scammers.
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August 20, 2013, 02:44:40 PM
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Josh thank you for giving me a valid reason to post this picture:


That meme is stupid. The pic is obviously from the '80s when there was no public internet yet.
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August 20, 2013, 04:02:09 PM
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The people that ordered like 1 year ago and still have not got their equipment would have been way better of buying GPU`s and mining with them instead of waiting...
Are BFL scamming, well maybe, i do bet they have some equipment running that customer have paid for and are waiting for but some people trying to make it seem like everything that is in order queue is currently mining for BFL - that is not the case.
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August 20, 2013, 08:33:01 PM
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There are not that many companies that have actually delivered. 2?
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August 21, 2013, 02:26:26 AM
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Ooo look, the little trolls are are riled up.  Awesome Smiley

The waaambulance is busy today!

Congrats on achieving an F. Few companies are able to achieve such a great rating. Well done!



Here is the link to that:
http://www.bbb.org/kansas-city/business-reviews/electronic-equipment-and-supplies-wholesale-and-manufacturers/bf-labs-inc-in-overland-park-ks-1000002011

If you have or had a problem with BFL, let the BBB know.  Grin

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August 21, 2013, 02:29:57 AM
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Ooo look, the little trolls are are riled up.  Awesome Smiley

The waaambulance is busy today!

Congrats on achieving an F. Few companies are able to achieve such a great rating. Well done!



Here is the link to that:
http://www.bbb.org/kansas-city/business-reviews/electronic-equipment-and-supplies-wholesale-and-manufacturers/bf-labs-inc-in-overland-park-ks-1000002011

If you have or had a problem with BFL, let the BBB know.  Grin

Bbb is a scam fyi. Bfl could fix that f to an a by paying bbb. Google it.

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August 21, 2013, 02:52:47 AM
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has anyone recieved a product from bfl if no its a scam
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August 21, 2013, 04:04:40 AM
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Ooo look, the little trolls are are riled up.  Awesome Smiley

The waaambulance is busy today!

Congrats on achieving an F. Few companies are able to achieve such a great rating. Well done!



Here is the link to that:
http://www.bbb.org/kansas-city/business-reviews/electronic-equipment-and-supplies-wholesale-and-manufacturers/bf-labs-inc-in-overland-park-ks-1000002011

If you have or had a problem with BFL, let the BBB know.  Grin

Bbb is a scam fyi. Bfl could fix that f to an a by paying bbb. Google it.

Waits for the payoff
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August 21, 2013, 04:55:48 AM
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i feel like i got scammed by butterfly labs.....over a year waiting for product now.....bloody scammmermemrermemrers
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August 21, 2013, 06:38:53 AM
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BFL is not a scam!

BTW: I have this video card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131479 that I want to sell.

I will give you a great price and install this http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19962/ex-blc-1453/EK_Radeon_HD_7990_SE_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Nickel_EK-FC7990_SE_-_Nickel.html?gclid=CJ-CstjzjbkCFed_QgodsVsA3Q waterblock for a small additional charge.

Send me $1,000 today and I will install the waterblock as soon as I can but it may take me until August or September of 2014 to deliver it.

Oh, I forgot to mention that I don't accept refunds. There may or may not be a power supply cable included and if I do include one it may be broken. I will accept payment in btc because this is a Bitcoin forum and all but I will exchange it for the good stuff (dollars) immediately. So don't even bother bitching about giving me 10 btc today when you can buy it for 1 btc next year.

Oh, one more thing I forgot to mention, I took this class on customer service and I want to try it out: You're all just a bunch of stupid fucking morons. I can't believe how fucking dumb you all are. I have to tell you fucking fools the same thing over and over again.

Thank you for your order!

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August 21, 2013, 07:14:09 AM
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BFL is not a scam!

BTW: I have this video card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131479 that I want to sell.

I will give you a great price and install this http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19962/ex-blc-1453/EK_Radeon_HD_7990_SE_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Nickel_EK-FC7990_SE_-_Nickel.html?gclid=CJ-CstjzjbkCFed_QgodsVsA3Q waterblock for a small additional charge.

Send me $1,000 today and I will install the waterblock as soon as I can but it may take me until August or September of 2014 to deliver it.

Oh, I forgot to mention that I don't accept refunds. There may or may not be a power supply cable included and if I do include one it may be broken. I will accept payment in btc because this is a Bitcoin forum and all but I will exchange it for the good stuff (dollars) immediately. So don't even bother bitching about giving me 10 btc today when you can buy it for 1 btc next year.

Oh, one more thing I forgot to mention, I took this class on customer service and I want to try it out: You're all just a bunch of stupid fucking morons. I can't believe how fucking dumb you all are. I have to tell you fucking fools the same thing over and over again.

Thank you for your order!
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August 21, 2013, 11:02:07 AM
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finally I could pick it up!

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August 21, 2013, 12:03:28 PM
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I've been watching the BFL situation for awhile now, and just my $0.02.

They're the classic small firm too-good-to-be-true model - that is, they start producing a product, but over-hype it and then when everyone bites, they can't keep up with demand.
Not wanting to piss any already-customer clients off, they don't reject or refund new or pending orders, and further tank until the entire world has a boot ITA.

FPGA modules were one thing...massively-parallel FPGA clusters another, but mass-production ASICs are a completely 'nother beast. It takes serious overhead to contract a semi foundry, and it takes serious overhead to contract enough units to prevent from tanking on a level that would bankrupt an entire city in the process. It's called "no such thing as a free lunch": If the chip is cheap, you can better believe you'll need a lot of them. If they're expensive, then less so.

Anyone trying to push custom ASICs running 3,500Mhash per chip and arraying them in a cluster as well as having the specific intent to market them to the entire world without going through the process of building a corporate infrastructure for which to do so is as far as I'm concerned, criminally insane.

Until TI or NXP starts manufacturing SHA-256 hashrunning ICs, I'll stay away from the ASIC craze. There is more grief than gain involved, and with the diff shooting through the roof because of everyone and their grandmother deciding to gangbang the Bitcoin concept with dreams of riches, the collective rug is getting pulled out from everyone's feet faster than they think.
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August 21, 2013, 12:17:06 PM
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has anyone recieved a product from bfl if no its a scam

Heaps of people have received product from BFL (lots of unboxing photos around the net). I certainly have, if you want any sort of proof I have my two jalapenos, let me know...

Probably should put something here.... Maybe an LTC address?
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