Butterflylabs Huge SCAM

[MooC Tals]

Josh is a cocksucker

[eoakland]

Josh, better get used to this...open wide for the C.M. Sandwich

[QuestionAuthority]

That's just a sidebar. What I'm mainly talking about is that he threatened Garr by refusing to deliver the equipment he paid for because Garr was complaining and talking shit about BFL. Garr was essentially beaten into submission because he had a large order for a group of people and couldn't afford to have his delivery canceled. Josh was using his order as leverage to control Garrs behavior by threatening to cancel or delay it. I'm pretty sure the court would agree that speaks to Josh's character.

There's another word for that.  It's called "extortion."  It's a RICO predicate, incidentally.

You mean this threat?

Duly noted Garr and I understand your concerns.  I will get your refund processed first thing tomorrow when I get into the office.

I did not request a refund.

I'm done here, your refund will be processed by COB tomorrow.

In order for me to keep my pre-orders Josh is making me do the following:

• Apologize Publicly for calling Josh and BFL liars
• Admit "Werner" is a sock puppet account uner my control
• Apologize for using "Werner" to troll him

Therefore, in the best interest of Cognitive, the people who have purchased pre-orders from me, and myself:

Dear Inaba and BFL:

     Sorry for calling you liars. Werner is a sock puppet account under my control. Sorry for utilizing said account to "troll" you.

                                         With regret,
                                                     Garr255

Also, I apologize to all who I may have put at risk by speculating that BFL may have been acting in a dishonest fashion. If I had known that the cancellation of orders placed by me would result of this I would not have acted in such a way, as that would be a direct violation of the fiduciary duty imposed on me by handling others' assets.

Well done blackmail, Josh. Well done.

#askftc

Oh good, you found it. Thanks! I looked and looked to no avail.

[Amitabh S]

Ok, I've got the popcorn ready. When is the action going to start?

[sbogovac]

Ok, I've got the popcorn ready. When is the action going to start?

Most of the "action" is being commented at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.0

[Beymond]

Ok, I've got the popcorn ready. When is the action going to start?

Most of the "action" is being commented at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.0

oh i was missing it all along
Thank you

[QuestionAuthority]

Ok, I've got the popcorn ready. When is the action going to start?

Most of the "action" is being commented at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.0

oh i was missing it all along
Thank you

Don't waste your time. That thread is an abortion of complete crap. Last I checked it was a drug thread with pictures of Cheech and Chong. I don't think any reasonable on topic info has been posted there in 50 pages.

[mayax]

the moderator should lock it.

[Searing]

Ok, I've got the popcorn ready. When is the action going to start?

yeah i'm wondering this myself...I mean really....how long is this gonna drag on any ideas (court wise) i suppose i should go thru the thread
but things seem to be at a stall?

[Bicknellski]

That's just a sidebar. What I'm mainly talking about is that he threatened Garr by refusing to deliver the equipment he paid for because Garr was complaining and talking shit about BFL. Garr was essentially beaten into submission because he had a large order for a group of people and couldn't afford to have his delivery canceled. Josh was using his order as leverage to control Garrs behavior by threatening to cancel or delay it. I'm pretty sure the court would agree that speaks to Josh's character.

There's another word for that.  It's called "extortion."  It's a RICO predicate, incidentally.

You mean this threat?

Duly noted Garr and I understand your concerns.  I will get your refund processed first thing tomorrow when I get into the office.

I did not request a refund.

I'm done here, your refund will be processed by COB tomorrow.

In order for me to keep my pre-orders Josh is making me do the following:

• Apologize Publicly for calling Josh and BFL liars
• Admit "Werner" is a sock puppet account uner my control
• Apologize for using "Werner" to troll him

Therefore, in the best interest of Cognitive, the people who have purchased pre-orders from me, and myself:

Dear Inaba and BFL:

     Sorry for calling you liars. Werner is a sock puppet account under my control. Sorry for utilizing said account to "troll" you.

                                         With regret,
                                                     Garr255

Also, I apologize to all who I may have put at risk by speculating that BFL may have been acting in a dishonest fashion. If I had known that the cancellation of orders placed by me would result of this I would not have acted in such a way, as that would be a direct violation of the fiduciary duty imposed on me by handling others' assets.

Well done blackmail, Josh. Well done.

#askftc

Blackmail... nasty. Just nasty.

[Xian01]

Ok, I've got the popcorn ready. When is the action going to start?

As per docket entry 251, the trial has been moved to start on November 16th, 2015, 9am, Courtroom 7D, in Kansas City (BCW) before District Judge Brian C. Wimes.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg10315710#msg10315710

[CryptoJunky]

Ok, I've got the popcorn ready. When is the action going to start?

As per docket entry 251, the trial has been moved to start on November 16th, 2015, 9am, Courtroom 7D, in Kansas City (BCW) before District Judge Brian C. Wimes.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg10315710#msg10315710

Ah, such a long wait! At least they're mostly out of the game for now.

[xandriel]

Maybe not out of the game just yet. Received an email today from BFL. Perhaps a last ditch attempt to make some $$$?

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[BadAss.Sx]

I also received this mail...do not fall into this trap

[mayax]

I also received this mail...do not fall into this trap

how do you know it is a trap?

[Keyser Soze]

I also received this mail...do not fall into this trap

how do you know it is a trap?

Hint: BFL has always been a trap.

[Searing]

I also received this mail...do not fall into this trap

how do you know it is a trap?

it is a trap with BFL it is always a trap...and for those who STILL have not gotten a refund from BFL contact the FTC directly.....they have been saying to do so since
they got wind of BFL kinda/sorta dragging their feet) (saw this on the has bfl f*cked you over bitcoin thread with links)

if you contact BFL directly imho they will simply put you at the end of what ever refund list they have in play and by the time it gets to you they will imho
declare bankruptcy...it is their only hope now....again....in my view

sheesh....how long can this go on before BFL just dies already.....(still selling crap on their site by the by)

[mayax]

I also received this mail...do not fall into this trap

how do you know it is a trap?

Hint: BFL has always been a trap.

any proof or only words?

[Searing]

I also received this mail...do not fall into this trap

how do you know it is a trap?

Hint: BFL has always been a trap.

any proof or only words?

well the lies for the last 2 years and the FTC and IRS investigations come to mind.....not to mention the public court documents of their lies
so yeah....pretty much plenty of 'proof' imho lol

[Amitabh S]

I also received this mail...do not fall into this trap

how do you know it is a trap?

Only one way to make sure. Why not place an order and lets us know when (if) you receive it?