Butterflylabs Huge SCAM

[CoinChex]

I for one, got a refund on my BFL order back from May 1st and couldn't be happier.  A 25 gh/s little single is a joke with his type of difficulty.   Go invest in BTC or build a business.

Just a heads up, might near impossible to get your money back out of BFL.  Best of letting paypal know you ordered a preorder and need it refunded for failed delivery.

[terrapinflyer]

Eh just started my refund process, this should be fun.

[millsdmb]

Eh just started my refund process, this should be fun.

1-800-LAWYERS

I eagerly await watching the folks at Butterfly Labs take it for every victim of theirs with every drop of the soap.

[LorenzoMoney]

And Ponzi schemes pay out dividends....to the early investors.

Whether or not Butterfly Labs intended to scam people, when they realized that they could not deliver on time, they should have stopped accepting pre-orders. Butterfly Labs may not have started out as a scam, but it seems to have devolved into one. Sure, a few people have gotten their orders, but for most people, IF they get their order after many months of waiting, they will have a machine which will be useless, because the whole selling point was that you would be able to mine bitcoin and get some ROI.

Butterfly labs customer support people are snarky, rude, insult customers who are legitimately upset, and refuse to reimburse people who have been waiting an inordinate amount of time. BFL also lies about delivery dates.


In my book, that is a scam.

They have shipped units, how is it a scam lol

[Meizirkki]

llolololo

[nextgalaxy43]

And Ponzi schemes pay out dividends....to the early investors.

Whether or not Butterfly Labs intended to scam people, when they realized that they could not deliver on time, they should have stopped accepting pre-orders. Butterfly Labs may not have started out as a scam, but it seems to have devolved into one. Sure, a few people have gotten their orders, but for most people, IF they get their order after many months of waiting, they will have a machine which will be useless, because the whole selling point was that you would be able to mine bitcoin and get some ROI.

Butterfly labs customer support people are snarky, rude, insult customers who are legitimately upset, and refuse to reimburse people who have been waiting an inordinate amount of time. BFL also lies about delivery dates.


In my book, that is a scam.

They have shipped units, how is it a scam lol

I think just like you,
if you will not get Butterfly  device on time then that device  will cost nothing. and you waste your money.

[WikileaksDude]

And Ponzi schemes pay out dividends....to the early investors.

Whether or not Butterfly Labs intended to scam people, when they realized that they could not deliver on time, they should have stopped accepting pre-orders. Butterfly Labs may not have started out as a scam, but it seems to have devolved into one. Sure, a few people have gotten their orders, but for most people, IF they get their order after many months of waiting, they will have a machine which will be useless, because the whole selling point was that you would be able to mine bitcoin and get some ROI.

Butterfly labs customer support people are snarky, rude, insult customers who are legitimately upset, and refuse to reimburse people who have been waiting an inordinate amount of time. BFL also lies about delivery dates.


In my book, that is a scam.

They have shipped units, how is it a scam lol

I think just like you,
if you will not get Butterfly  device on time then that device  will cost nothing. and you waste your money.

They should have had the scam tag imo

[fractal02]

They should have had the scam tag imo

A scammer asking scam tag 

[faiza1990]

You should double your order. Then you could mine twice as many bitcoins with the equipment you don't have

[Asphyxiated]

You should double your order. Then you could mine twice as many bitcoins with the equipment you don't have

lol, I was about to pre-order a single 5GH/s unit from BFL about 4 months ago because it was only $274 and my video card was $300 (the one I wanted to buy at least) and I thought long and hard about which would be the better option and i came to the conclusion that I could either pay $300 for a GPU that is useful for more than just mining or pay $274 for a pre-order unit that only mines sha-256 coins and has a moving expected ship date. This is was pretty simple choice at that point for the video card. If I could have ordered the ASIC and have it shipped in a week or two then I probably would have done that before buying a gpu but now I am thanking the sweet lord Jesus H Christ that I didn't go for BFL rigs.

Thats what they are, rigged. 

[wtfvanity]

llolololo

I like that.

[faiza1990]

llolololo

I like that.

 

[Xian01]

Public Service Announcement:

If you have ordered from Butterfly Labs (BFL) and have not yet received your product, you are entitled to a refund whenever you request one (per FTC rules).

First ask Butterfly Labs (BFL) for one, they will probably say no but you might get lucky.
If you ordered via PayPal you can file a complaint with them even if you are outside the 45 day window. One customer has already gotten a refund from PayPal that was outside the 45 days.

If you ordered via BTC or Bank wire, you can fill out a complaint with the FTC and they will advocate for you with Butterfly Labs (BFL) to get your refund. You can also contact the office of the Kansas Attorney General and inform them that you have had your money taken with no product delivered for months, just more promises.

There are also several threads on how to get a refund from Butterfly Labs (BFL), here are two:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=266945.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272585.0

[darkmule]

They should have had the scam tag imo

Scammers who pay ad money to the slimeballs who run this site don't get scammer tags.  Scammer tags are for people who don't pay the proper bribes to the crooks in charge.

[scambutterflylabs]

Here is what the thread was about before int03h tried to derail it:

Josh pretending BFL has delivered to it's customers!

Never invest more than you want to risk losing.

Learn from the lessons provided here and never EVER buy from BFL again. <--- That is the ultimate lesson and caveat.

That is really what should be the moral of this story. Bitcoin is an investment of time that is something we all lose everyday whether you have ROI or not... so that little truism does little to help anyone.

Hey, at least BFL can deliver on products.  You're just a complete failure, can't even deliver your promised devices.  Good show, sir!  "Big picture mining" ... and you don't even understand what's right in front of you, much less the big picture, heh.

Josh censoring unhappy customers on YouTube!

This video is a bit sad on BFLs part... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti6bLEF2NYI

Not really, as a video poster you are able to delete comments other people post...

If seems the BFL censors are awake now.

Can you spot the difference? 

Josh diverting mini-rigs to his own mining company!
http://bflfraud.com/


And a Public Service Announcement!
If you have ordered from BFL and have not yet received your product, you are entitled to a refund whenever you request one (per FTC rules).
First ask BFL for one, they will probably say no but you might get lucky.
If you ordered via PayPal you can file a complaint with them even if you are outside the 45 day window. One customer has already gotten a refund from PayPal that was outside the 45 days.
If you ordered via BTC or Bank wire, you can fill out a complaint with the FTC and they will advocate for you with BFL to get your refund. You can also contact the office of the Kansas Attorney General and inform them that you have had your money taken with no product d
elivered for months, just more promises.

There are also several threads on how to get a refund from BFL, here are two:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=266945.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272585.0

[Fiyasko]

Here is what the thread was about before int03h tried to derail it:

Josh pretending BFL has delivered to it's customers!

Never invest more than you want to risk losing.

Learn from the lessons provided here and never EVER buy from BFL again. <--- That is the ultimate lesson and caveat.

That is really what should be the moral of this story. Bitcoin is an investment of time that is something we all lose everyday whether you have ROI or not... so that little truism does little to help anyone.

Hey, at least BFL can deliver on products.  You're just a complete failure, can't even deliver your promised devices.  Good show, sir!  "Big picture mining" ... and you don't even understand what's right in front of you, much less the big picture, heh.

Josh censoring unhappy customers on YouTube!

This video is a bit sad on BFLs part... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti6bLEF2NYI

Not really, as a video poster you are able to delete comments other people post...

If seems the BFL censors are awake now.

Can you spot the difference? 

Josh diverting mini-rigs to his own mining company!
http://bflfraud.com/


And a Public Service Announcement!
If you have ordered from BFL and have not yet received your product, you are entitled to a refund whenever you request one (per FTC rules).
First ask BFL for one, they will probably say no but you might get lucky.
If you ordered via PayPal you can file a complaint with them even if you are outside the 45 day window. One customer has already gotten a refund from PayPal that was outside the 45 days.
If you ordered via BTC or Bank wire, you can fill out a complaint with the FTC and they will advocate for you with BFL to get your refund. You can also contact the office of the Kansas Attorney General and inform them that you have had your money taken with no product d
elivered for months, just more promises.

There are also several threads on how to get a refund from BFL, here are two:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=266945.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272585.0

Holy crap the BFL goons are spending alot of time censoring that video where they do nothing but hold your product in their hands.

[charleshoskinson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jYNMKdv36w

Now Josh pissed hitler off. When will it end

[TAD2020]

I am so glad I decided not to get one of these from BFL. I'm not quite gonna call it a scam since its easier to assume they just failed completely to make any of their own targets.

The Bit Eruptor are quite nice, and I like the turn around on the orders. 

[millsdmb]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jYNMKdv36w

Now Josh pissed hitler off. When will it end

I just added a link to this thread in the youtube description!

[freedomno1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jYNMKdv36w

Now Josh pissed hitler off. When will it end

I just added a link to this thread in the youtube description!

Hehe nice 1