Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Lafu]

So did anybody get or have got some news about the meeting from the DFL managment ?
I just can find some news from the 21 April thats looks are the latest.
Or did i missed something ? Just readed that there is 40 Page document about how the clubs wanted to handle all the Games and the things.

[coinlocket$]

Looks like the Bundesliga executives are ready to restart the league (1st division and 2nd division), but according to this article^[1], it all comes down the Goverment's approval.

Btw, the article mentions that handshakes before kick-off will not be allowed, which is a small thing most leagues implemented when the pandemic was in the early stages and we still had football action but, does anyone else thinks this is pointless? I mean, players touch each other all the time, spit and sweat is all over the pitch 

Anyways, question: Once the league returns, should we avoid moneyline for a few couples of weeks? Players have been innactive for a long ass time so things might feel like they just came back from the pre-season, it's gonna take some time for them to get back in shape (both physically and mentally). What do you guys think? yay or nay?

1. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8248727/Coronavirus-Bundesliga-bosses-sign-9-return-25-000-tests-needed.html

Yes, top's Leagues want to start in May under government's approval.
They need to start too much money on the basket.

I've seen Bayen's training session back before the COVID and is a nightmare for players.

8 players for session, gym's machines on the field, disinfection every time they use the machine, mah.

[hd49728]

I've seen Bayen's training session back before the COVID and is a nightmare for players.

8 players for session, gym's machines on the field, disinfection every time they use the machine, mah.

It is one of the most weird training sessions players have experienced in their career and for most of us who have seen training session photos. I saw the shoot session of Bayer that makes me very surprising. We did not see such train method in the past. Maybe strikers will shoot in-goal more when matches resume.

It is only weird with training, for matches and some proposal from medical staffs to force players wearing facemasks, I think it is unrealistic from what we see the way they have trained. There is no facemask worn by players in training sessions.

[Lafu]

The german politician Lauterbach says that its possible a wrong Signal to start the German League !

Neustart "setzt möglicherweise falsches Signal"
Mit einem ausführlichen Hygienekonzept will die DFL sicherstellen, dass der Ball in der Bundesliga bald wieder rollt. Doch SPD-Politiker Lauterbach kritisiert den möglichen Neustart. Der Gesundheitsexperte warnt im ntv-Interview vor dem Signal, dass man gerade für junge Menschen setze.

https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/sport/Neustart-setzt-moeglicherweise-falsches-Signal-article21738691.html

Translated :

The Restart "may send a wrong signal"
With a detailed hygiene concept the DFL wants to ensure that the Bundesliga will starts soon again. But SPD politician Lauterbach criticizes the possible restart.
In the ntv interview the health expert warns of the signal that it is especially for young people.

[Naida_BR]

The coronavirus thread is going to exist for a year or Morey, till we find a vaccine for that.
Having said that, there will be always a thread for the public health and the players.
In my opinion, Bundesliga should start again and matches to be played with no spectators...

[DeathAngel]

The coronavirus thread is going to exist for a year or Morey, till we find a vaccine for that.
Having said that, there will be always a thread for the public health and the players.
In my opinion, Bundesliga should start again and matches to be played with no spectators...

That’s what will happen, also a vaccine probably won’t exist for over a year. In my opinion the best way to get through this is herd immunity, sadly people will die & there’s nothing we can do. It is a very low death per infection rate though & the economy needs to get going ASAP which includes football.

[BTCLiz]

The coronavirus thread is going to exist for a year or Morey, till we find a vaccine for that.
Having said that, there will be always a thread for the public health and the players.
In my opinion, Bundesliga should start again and matches to be played with no spectators...

That’s what will happen, also a vaccine probably won’t exist for over a year. In my opinion the best way to get through this is herd immunity, sadly people will die & there’s nothing we can do. It is a very low death per infection rate though & the economy needs to get going ASAP which includes football.

So in your opinion Football > human lifes?

Even if the mortality rate is as low as 0.3%, this would mean over 300.000 People will die in Germany. Is that your Goal?

[Dr.Lender3]

The coronavirus thread is going to exist for a year or Morey, till we find a vaccine for that.
Having said that, there will be always a thread for the public health and the players.
In my opinion, Bundesliga should start again and matches to be played with no spectators...

That’s what will happen, also a vaccine probably won’t exist for over a year. In my opinion the best way to get through this is herd immunity, sadly people will die & there’s nothing we can do. It is a very low death per infection rate though & the economy needs to get going ASAP which includes football.

Human life before the game. You think the death rate is low, if this continues then a lot of people in the world will die. And what is the guarantee that the player will survive? If there are no players, then whose game will the spectators watch?

[Upgrade00]

That’s what will happen, also a vaccine probably won’t exist for over a year. In my opinion the best way to get through this is herd immunity, sadly people will die & there’s nothing we can do. It is a very low death per infection rate though & the economy needs to get going ASAP which includes football.

So basically, your suggestion would be Lockdown should be lessened and the virus spread allowed, those with sufficient immunity would survive (with little medical care) and would hence be free from the virus. The salient factor of this virus is the rate of contractions, if public gatherings like football stadiums were opened up, it will greatly increase the number of cases and put extra pressure on the healthcare system and those who would have survived with minimal health care would be at risk of dying; increasing the mortality rate.

In the flip side, the economy has to be salvaged, so opening up key sectors is important. Football now would generate a lot of revenue,but it has to be done when it is absolutely safe to do so, players are humans too and if conditions are not perfect I reckon some of them would not risk their lives to entertain the viewers.

[Lafu]

My personal opinion is that when the German League starts again that it will be have for sure and positiv effect for mental health for a few people.
But if this is all going in the wrong direction it can be bring some big shitstorm to the DFL and the teams that wanted to start the League again.
Its a thin ice at the moment where they walking .

[TheGreatPython]

Just because we want it to start doesn't mean the politician is wrong, starting the leagues back open again does send a wrong message. There are so many idiot people out in the world that Trump talked about injecting bleach to veins to maybe cure the patients, and after that over 300 people went to hospitals for drinking bleach, 4 of them died, so as you might imagine what you do as a nation changes way too much.

Of course bundesliga is not trump and bundesliga fans are not trump supporters, these will be smarter people and Germans so I am not expecting anything stupid from them, yet I still would say waiting maybe one more month wouldn't hurt anyone neither. I get it, teams wants to play and be done with this, but they are making it too quick, May is just too soon, June would have been a bit better.

[tomahawk9]

There will be surprises and some crazy results, just like in a "normal" beginning of a season, but this should result in some nice value odds to be found as well. <...>

I'll definitely keep an eye out for some value bets. If i'm not mistaken, the league will resume with Matchweek 26, and there are some interesting games there to follow:

Dortmund vs Shalke 04
RB Leipzig vs Freiburg
Frankfurt vs Gladbach
Werder Bremen vs Leverkusen
Hoffenheim vs Hertha Berlin
Dusseldorf vs Paderborn
Ausburg vs Wolfsburg
Koln vs Mainz
Union Berlin vs Bayern

Hmm, seeing the Signal Iduna Park with no crowd and without the "Yellow Wall" during the Revierderby will be very weird ):

[Lafu]

I'll definitely keep an eye out for some value bets. If i'm not mistaken, the league will resume with Matchweek 26, and there are some interesting games there to follow:

Dortmund vs Shalke 04
RB Leipzig vs Freiburg
Frankfurt vs Gladbach
Werder Bremen vs Leverkusen
Hoffenheim vs Hertha Berlin
Dusseldorf vs Paderborn
Ausburg vs Wolfsburg
Koln vs Mainz
Union Berlin vs Bayern

Hmm, seeing the Signal Iduna Park with no crowd and without the "Yellow Wall" during the Revierderby will be very weird ):

The problem is that you now cant say anything about how they will play or as there performance is after the long break with that pandemic.
For sure the bigger Teams have more training room as the others but i guess that we will see some crazy results when they start playing again.
Berlin vs Bayern is the most interesting after berlin was playing very well .

[bullrun2024bro]

The sports website Transfermarkt just published an article about the situation in the different European leagues. Which ones will be canceled? Which ones might resume? The article will be constantly updated.

This is the current situation in the German Bundesliga:

Germany: Bundesliga & 2. Bundesliga

The return of the season with games behind closed doors is considered for May 9. On April 23, the DFL held discussions in a general meeting. A final decision has to be made by politicians, who will discuss the matter on April 30.

The conference of ministers for sports announced on April 27 that they consider it reasonable for the Bundesliga to return in mid-May or at the end of May. Strict sanitary and medical guidelines would apply.

Source: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/restart-or-termination-what-the-different-leagues-all-around-the-world-plan-to-do/view/news/359293

[Lafu]

Switzerland resumes League maybe !

In Switzerland, the course has been set for the resumption of football operations:
The Federal Council decided on Wednesday that ghost games could take place from 8 June.
However, it is not certain that the Super League will continue because of this.

The Swiss government decided on Wednesday that would allow the professional clubs to return to the game from this date without spectators.
However, the Federal Council does not want to make a final decision on the continuation of the Super League and the second League until May 27.

Source : https://www.sportbuzzer.de/artikel/schweiz-geisterspiele-8-juni-liga-super-league-fortsetzung-bundesrat-reaktionen/
Translated

If more countries going this way i guess we will see some matches in the next months.
Would be nice to know how they will making it with CL and all.

[tyKiwanuka]

This is the current situation in the German Bundesliga:

Germany: Bundesliga & 2. Bundesliga

The return of the season with games behind closed doors is considered for May 9. On April 23, the DFL held discussions in a general meeting. A final decision has to be made by politicians, who will discuss the matter on April 30.

The conference of ministers for sports announced on April 27 that they consider it reasonable for the Bundesliga to return in mid-May or at the end of May. Strict sanitary and medical guidelines would apply.

Source: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/restart-or-termination-what-the-different-leagues-all-around-the-world-plan-to-do/view/news/359293

Dortmund boss Watzke was at Markus Lanz yesterday. He told the total amount at stake is around 750 million for the rest of the season for all teams of Bundesliga. This is what the clubs would lose, if play isn't resumed. Now the german government could just give those 750 million to the teams and be done with it, but this definitely would lead to a shitstorm never seen before - and rightfully so. The clubs will still lose money even by finishing the season, but any money is welcomed, since they don't make any money at all right now.

Another interesting issue he mentioned: If any player (or staff) tests positive, that team has to go into 14 day quarantine and their last played opponent too. This will of course mess up the schedule and could lead to lots of postponed matches, which would then have to be played at a later point. The schedule is already tight, with 9 rounds to be played until end of June (because of sponsoring contracts). I could see some fraud happening because of that, but that is maybe just in my mad mind. Lets see how this plays out in the end.

[Harkorede]

Another interesting issue he mentioned: If any player (or staff) tests positive, that team has to go into 14 day quarantine and their last played opponent too. This will of course mess up the schedule and could lead to lots of postponed matches, which would then have to be played at a later point. The schedule is already tight, with 9 rounds to be played until end of June (because of sponsoring contracts). I could see some fraud happening because of that, but that is maybe just in my mad mind. Lets see how this plays out in the end.

Right! Now, I'm concerned that if play resumes and a player eventually tests positive, the organizers might go extra mile to conceal the information from the public knowing that a new positive case could well be the end of the league for this or until there is a more lasting solution.

[Indymoney]

Another interesting issue he mentioned: If any player (or staff) tests positive, that team has to go into 14 day quarantine and their last played opponent too. This will of course mess up the schedule and could lead to lots of postponed matches, which would then have to be played at a later point. The schedule is already tight, with 9 rounds to be played until end of June (because of sponsoring contracts). I could see some fraud happening because of that, but that is maybe just in my mad mind. Lets see how this plays out in the end.

Right! Now, I'm concerned that if play resumes and a player eventually tests positive, the organizers might go extra mile to conceal the information from the public knowing that a new positive case could well be the end of the league for this or until there is a more lasting solution.

Right now this is really serious and big issue because if this happen then we can lost some good time then may be next season start can also face some troubles but still we have to wait for 30 April what happen and what they decide.

[Lafu]

Its a difficult situation for all Teams in the german league and in all other leagues in other countries too !
Just in case one team will be have a player tested positive the team cant playing for 2 weeks , and if they got infected from the match i realy dont want to know whats happend then.
Thats would be the best story for the Media and the news and they will be bring some shitstorm to the league.
Everyone wants the league back, but whether thats the right way, i have my thoughts.

[hd49728]

Its a difficult situation for all Teams in the german league and in all other leagues in other countries too !
Just in case one team will be have a player tested positive the team cant playing for 2 weeks , and if they got infected from the match i realy dont want to know whats happend then.
Thats would be the best story for the Media and the news and they will be bring some shitstorm to the league.
Everyone wants the league back, but whether thats the right way, i have my thoughts.

We do not know what will happen but if there are opportunities to finish leagues with a few matches left, we should try it. I totally support the idea to finish leagues behind closed stadiums. Cups can be cancelled but leagues should be finished. We can not fear of such situation above and delay league resume too long. Resume them and let see what will happen after that. We might not lose many things if leagues will be postponed again after infected players found but might lose all these seasons with hesitation.