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You don't have to worry about Dortmund and also, you don't have to doubt Dortmund's quality and ability. Because after all, every season Dortmund always produces great players and then sells them
Thats not every season the case , mostly they are around 3 years in Dortmund and then the Big Clubs are coming and getting them with more money that Dortmund cant afford. Therefore, it's not surprising that Dortmund always sell their key players because in fact, Dortmund also always manages to produce new ones to become key players in the team, whether it's from recruiting or just maximizing the potential of every player in the squad.
They would be holding them and have them in there Team for sure but they dont have some rich guys behind the Club thats the problem. I guess that the most players would be loved it to stay for more years in Dortmund but saddly money talks more then the heart.
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June 27, 2023, 08:35:45 PM |
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Right now most chances Harry Kane for any other club then England is not going to happen because Tottenham is already asking for the price which is not acceptable for any other club in this all situation most chances he will stay here in Tottenham or Manchester United will be doing something as they are also looking for the central striker.
But in last few weeks, we also have rumors about Vlahović which is looking for the another club and right now Real Madrid and Bayern Munich both are looking for him but currently nothing is clear because things will be clear in next few weeks without any doubt Robert Lewandowski is bog lost for the Bayern Munich, but now they need to look forward and most chances they will find solid replacement as well.
How much does Tottenham want for Kane? In my opinion, from the latest news there was information that Bayern is negotiating with Kane now. And if I'm not mistaken, this is not Bayern's first attempt to get Kane, especially since Lewandowski left the team. Mane did not live up to expectations and did not become the leader of the attack, so this is an urgent issue for Bayern. I would like to see what Kane is capable of in Bayern, in a team that is aimed at attacking Kane would have ideal conditions. Manchester United doesn't have a reliable central 9 but there are still players there that the team can depend on in terms of goal scoring. There is a high level of dependency and competition among these players. Rashford, Sancho, and Antony are still dependable. Harry Kane may not have a good moment at Manchester United and he has stayed in England long enough. If achievements should come into consideration, I don't think Manchester can help Kane reach his goal as fast as Bayern Munich will. I think he will go for Bayern I think Bayern can get him too, but if Manchester United manage to get him then they will have made a big transfer. Number 9 is a very important position for Manchester United and they never put a good player there. If Harry Kane comes, he will fill that area easily and make great contributions to the team with successful matches.
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June 27, 2023, 08:58:58 PM |
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Hmm I doubt Harry Kane will leave EPL to join a lower league like Bundesliga. I can understand La Liga move but I don't think he will be interested in other offers. Real Madrid was a recent target that seems to pull itself from him. I don't recall other news
The media write something different. The first offer was rejected by the responsibles. It iwas about 70 million plus special payments. But Kane and Bayern Munich are said to be in agreement and Bayern Munich is his favourite. His contract still has one year to run and I think that if there is no transfer this year, he will certainly join Bayern Munich next year.
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June 27, 2023, 09:49:41 PM |
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I agree, that is definitely not sure yet if Bayern Munich will be really able to sign Harry Kane. The fact that Tottenham Hotspur basically immediately rejected the offer of Bayern Munich does mean nothing though. Bayern has offered them 70 Million € which is just not enough for Tottenham. Reports say that they want 100 M pounds for him. That was just the first offer of Bayern though and in the end the fee will be somewhere between 80 and 100 million i would guess.
this transfer will surely work out . and there will surely be good bonus payments . kane's contract ends in summer 2024 and now totenham can get some real money for kane. next year kane can leave the club free of charge . and totenham will not give up these 80-100 million euros. tomorrow or the day after tomorrow both clubs will present this agreement . i am 99.9% sure about that. For some reason when talking about Kane I'm actually quite unsure. Tottenham still won't budge, it seems even though for 80 million because their target is 100 to 120 million for the Kane clause and indeed for 70 million now there are already Bayern and Madrid who offer the same price but they won't be looked at. At the moment, it also depends on Kane's attitude because as long as he doesn't make any comments, there isn't even a response when many are interested, it will also be useless even if Bayern's offer is increased. Kane should take a good stance in this regard but he is still undeniably loyal to Tottenham who have made him run in places with nothing to gain in his professional career. Regarding Harry Kane and Bayern Munich, we know the case is not going to be solved by paying more money and regardless of the money, Bayern Munich have to pay for hiring this player. The main problem is Kane is very much loyal to his team Tottenham, also Tottenham said they are not going to sell to any teams including Bayern Munich.
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June 27, 2023, 09:50:51 PM |
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Ha if it was that easy they would do it, but what you mention here is something that they have been quarreling with for quite a while now. They are still hoping for some younger talents from their own youth to finally tackle the challenge and make it into the first team of Bayern Munich. That would save them a lot of money and there wouldn't be the urgency all the time to do something about their offensive problems. But there is no Thomas Muller right now in their youth teams. Muller was the discovery of the year back then when Louis van Gaal gave him a chance. But the business has become too fast and you can't be patiently waiting for a talent to emerge from your own youth teams, you have to solve them problem immediately with cash. The chances for young talents from the own youth teams are also vanishing as they don't have time to prove they could be worth a try.
Actually talking about current talent there is one that can be looked at for next season like now they will try to maximize Ryan Gravenberch or Musiala but indeed this is back again they are only midfielders trying to improve the quality of attacks but there is still no striker who can be used as benchmark in this case. As you said buying with money is a short way to do it but until now they haven't done that yet and their focus is still on Kane. I was expecting other options but until now when talking about strikers Bayern still seem to be focused on Kane and when that doesn't work it will be a bit of a problem. There is again something in the making around Kane and this time it has been officially confirmed by Bayern that they sent an offer to Tottenham trying to transfer Kane for €70 million. But so far it seems that Tottenham refused the offer although Bayern and Kane have agreed upon the terms for a contract. That is what the news say but it is worthless as long as Tottenham doesn't agree to sell him for €70 million. Bayern knows that they don't have that many options to fix that problem now but I can see how Bayern is struggling to pay more for Kane. He isn't young anymore and the closer they get to the 100 million for this transfer, the higher the risk if course. If he gets injured, it would be a horrible situation for them as they would be in the same situation again.
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June 27, 2023, 10:59:54 PM |
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I'm wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the next season with their key player because they sold Jude to Real Madrid and got enough money for it, they can now hire hire other players to fill this position in their teams but the during I Know prefers to use the money to grow young talents instead of the hiring superstar players even if if they lose the title for the next season but that's how their bussness works.
You don't have to worry about Dortmund and also, you don't have to doubt Dortmund's quality and ability. Because after all, every season Dortmund always produces great players and then sells them but yes, the reality is that Dortmund still have the ability to compete in the top four. Therefore, it's not surprising that Dortmund always sell their key players because in fact, Dortmund also always manages to produce new ones to become key players in the team, whether it's from recruiting or just maximizing the potential of every player in the squad. If you check you can see Dortmund is a team with lots of potential and when they play in Germany they have fans in the stadiums more than any team and this can be a reason to say they are one of the most popular teams in Germany. But still, Dortmund should sometimes save some players for next season and instead of thinking about earing more money sometimes they have to put winning the Bundesliga title as first priority.
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There is again something in the making around Kane and this time it has been officially confirmed by Bayern that they sent an offer to Tottenham trying to transfer Kane for €70 million. But so far it seems that Tottenham refused the offer although Bayern and Kane have agreed upon the terms for a contract. That is what the news say but it is worthless as long as Tottenham doesn't agree to sell him for €70 million. Bayern knows that they don't have that many options to fix that problem now but I can see how Bayern is struggling to pay more for Kane. He isn't young anymore and the closer they get to the 100 million for this transfer, the higher the risk if course. If he gets injured, it would be a horrible situation for them as they would be in the same situation again.
In fact, such things have long been possible to hedge competently, simply by competently drawing up the transfer conditions. Well, I think that it will not reach 100 million euros, given the age of the player, although something close to this may well be formed taking into account some bonuses, such as that a player plays a certain number of matches in a season and scores a certain number of goals and then the amount for the transfer increases. I think Tottenham have two options for the sale price of Kane. One price, which is much higher for English clubs and another price is less for clubs not from England.
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June 27, 2023, 11:45:21 PM |
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With Harry Kane goal scoring record in the English premier league, i can confidently as a fan say that he is not leaving England for any club sides in Europe. The most likely destination for Harry Kane would be Manchester United or he remains in Tottenham. A move to Bayern Munich or PSG is not happening
Owner of manchester united has been confirming if MU will not sign a bid for kane. Bayern has officially sending its first bid for totenham but it gets rejected instantly by the club. It's caused by bayern's bid is far from the price that has been demanding by totenham. Im waiting for bayern to send another bid or will bayern give up this time? It's worthy to watch this transfer. I don't even think bayern will send another bid again. Kane was not so special as people think. He makes record only in totenham but remember that if this guy never won good trophy in his career. 100m over priced for him.
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Owner of manchester united has been confirming if MU will not sign a bid for kane. Bayern has officially sending its first bid for totenham but it gets rejected instantly by the club. It's caused by bayern's bid is far from the price that has been demanding by totenham. Im waiting for bayern to send another bid or will bayern give up this time? It's worthy to watch this transfer. I don't even think bayern will send another bid again. Kane was not so special as people think. He makes record only in totenham but remember that if this guy never won good trophy in his career.
Bayern Munich need an outstanding striker to replace Lewandowski but their bet in the last season with Mane failed. Fortunately they got Choupo-Moting with his sudden good performances but he is not a striker they want and he is not able to make game-changing goals in big clashes. Harry Kane actually is a world class striker and he has shown his ability in Premier League, big tournaments with England team like Euro and World Cup. However, at least we must think of one thing, he has never played outside Premier League. Bayern looks to be more determinant than Manchester United and they even will get a $20M discount from Tottenham which only want to sell the striker at price $100M+ if the buyers are from Premier League. 100m over priced for him.
Bayern Munich will get good discount from Tottenham if they complete this deal.
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If you check you can see Dortmund is a team with lots of potential and when they play in Germany they have fans in the stadiums more than any team and this can be a reason to say they are one of the most popular teams in Germany. But still, Dortmund should sometimes save some players for next season and instead of thinking about earing more money sometimes they have to put winning the Bundesliga title as first priority.
Bundesliga league can be fully predictable because it's only dominated by a singular club, Bayern Munich. Borrusia Dortmund is an outstanding club in the bundesliga, and they compete with the Bavarians, who always manage to win everything in the bundesliga. Borrusia Dortmund has no shortage of quality when it comes to players; every season, they develop good potential players who are capable of becoming top contenders for titles; however, it appears that this club is not serious about winning titles; instead, they are entirely focused on making enormous profits from the sale of their talented players to elite clubs.
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June 28, 2023, 04:40:42 AM |
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Hmm I doubt Harry Kane will leave EPL to join a lower league like Bundesliga. I can understand La Liga move but I don't think he will be interested in other offers. Real Madrid was a recent target that seems to pull itself from him. I don't recall other news
The media write something different. The first offer was rejected by the responsibles. It iwas about 70 million plus special payments. But Kane and Bayern Munich are said to be in agreement and Bayern Munich is his favourite. His contract still has one year to run and I think that if there is no transfer this year, he will certainly join Bayern Munich next year. True, I also read that. If they actually manage to land him the Bundesliga might have another problem. Dortmund lost their best player and Bayern gets stronger, seems like the boring ages might come back again. Though I must say next season will have a healthy Sebastian Haller and a Malen who finally came out of his shell in the second half of the season. They are also looking to find some new players but now every team know they got some money from Bellingham so with every potential transfer the selling team tries to charge Dortmund extra.
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June 28, 2023, 05:25:22 AM |
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If you check you can see Dortmund is a team with lots of potential and when they play in Germany they have fans in the stadiums more than any team and this can be a reason to say they are one of the most popular teams in Germany. But still, Dortmund should sometimes save some players for next season and instead of thinking about earing more money sometimes they have to put winning the Bundesliga title as first priority.
Bundesliga league can be fully predictable because it's only dominated by a singular club, Bayern Munich. Borrusia Dortmund is an outstanding club in the bundesliga, and they compete with the Bavarians, who always manage to win everything in the bundesliga. Borrusia Dortmund has no shortage of quality when it comes to players; every season, they develop good potential players who are capable of becoming top contenders for titles; however, it appears that this club is not serious about winning titles; instead, they are entirely focused on making enormous profits from the sale of their talented players to elite clubs. It is true that the Bundesliga will forever be dominated by a single club, namely Bayern Munich and until now there is still no other team that has been able to replace the throne for many seasons. Maybe for Dortmund, Leipzig, or even Union Berlin, which had threatened the bundesliga title last season, it was as if Bayen Munchen only considered passing wind and that meant nothing. However, even so last season Dortmund had threatened the bundesliga title but it did not go smoothly because in the end they failed to win in the last game. Now the competition between the teams is only to fight for the top 4 of the standings and Bayern Munich will still be in the top position without any interruptions. A little note for Dortmund, they should start prioritizing titles for the team instead of continuing to do the business of selling players on a regular basis.
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June 28, 2023, 06:50:08 AM |
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True, I also read that. If they actually manage to land him the Bundesliga might have another problem. Dortmund lost their best player and Bayern gets stronger, seems like the boring ages might come back again. Though I must say next season will have a healthy Sebastian Haller and a Malen who finally came out of his shell in the second half of the season. They are also looking to find some new players but now every team know they got some money from Bellingham so with every potential transfer the selling team tries to charge Dortmund extra. Dortmund has always been like this and they don't use the money they get from selling players to buy players who are compatible, instead this team will look for talented players at low prices and then sell them at high prices when the player's performance is good, that's what happened since was and will continue. Yes, the boring times will return and Dortmund will continue to be Bayern's shadow, I don't think what happened last season (tough competition for the title) will happen again last season, it's quite a risk for Bayern even though we really enjoyed it , for sure Bayern will avoid that and will build a stronger team for next season.
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June 28, 2023, 08:12:42 AM |
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I don't remember Union Berlin joining the Champions League before. This must be their first time I assume. Therefore they are going to be an inexperienced team in the tournament. However I'm pretty sure they will care about it much more than the Europa League. Because they can increase their income significantly by getting positive results as much as possbile.
They need to get lucky with the draw as well though. If they have a really tough group in which all teams look challenging then Union Berlin might not do much. Even if they drop down to the Europa League at the end it would be great for them anyway.
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June 28, 2023, 09:13:46 AM |
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I don't remember Union Berlin joining the Champions League before. This must be their first time I assume. Therefore they are going to be an inexperienced team in the tournament. However I'm pretty sure they will care about it much more than the Europa League. Because they can increase their income significantly by getting positive results as much as possbile.
They need to get lucky with the draw as well though. If they have a really tough group in which all teams look challenging then Union Berlin might not do much. Even if they drop down to the Europa League at the end it would be great for them anyway.
Exactly. It is the first time that Union Berlin will play in the Champions League. Last season they have played in the Uefa Cup. Considering that they were only promoted to Bundesliga 1 in the 2019 season they have made a great performance. In 2021 they have already qualified for the UEFA Europa Conference League and last year, as written, they have reached the Uefa Cup.
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June 28, 2023, 10:20:05 AM |
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Hmm I doubt Harry Kane will leave EPL to join a lower league like Bundesliga. I can understand La Liga move but I don't think he will be interested in other offers. Real Madrid was a recent target that seems to pull itself from him. I don't recall other news
The media write something different. The first offer was rejected by the responsibles. It iwas about 70 million plus special payments. But Kane and Bayern Munich are said to be in agreement and Bayern Munich is his favourite. His contract still has one year to run and I think that if there is no transfer this year, he will certainly join Bayern Munich next year. I've always wanted to see him leave for Bayern Munich, because they lacked a natural number nine since Lewandoski left for Barcelona. If he sleeps on this movement, Bayern Munich would definitely look for other options to replace him. Asides Bayern Munich, a move to Manchester United can also be a backup plan, he needs to break a record in the Premier League, he's so close to achieving that record, and I'll be proud he does that as a Manchester United player.
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June 28, 2023, 10:34:21 AM |
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Regarding Harry Kane and Bayern Munich, we know the case is not going to be solved by paying more money and regardless of the money, Bayern Munich have to pay for hiring this player. The main problem is Kane is very much loyal to his team Tottenham, also Tottenham said they are not going to sell to any teams including Bayern Munich.
If there is no agreement from one of the parties, of course any sale will not occur. This includes what you said because apart from Harry Kane who is still very much at home in the Premier League, he is also still very much at home at Tottenham. So it is very unlikely for any other team to get Harry Kane, unless there is a special change in the minds of the Tottenham management to make the deal happen even if not with Bayern Munich.
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June 28, 2023, 01:03:02 PM |
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Owner of manchester united has been confirming if MU will not sign a bid for kane. Bayern has officially sending its first bid for totenham but it gets rejected instantly by the club. It's caused by bayern's bid is far from the price that has been demanding by totenham. Im waiting for bayern to send another bid or will bayern give up this time? It's worthy to watch this transfer. I don't even think bayern will send another bid again. Kane was not so special as people think. He makes record only in totenham but remember that if this guy never won good trophy in his career.
Bayern Munich need an outstanding striker to replace Lewandowski but their bet in the last season with Mane failed. Fortunately they got Choupo-Moting with his sudden good performances but he is not a striker they want and he is not able to make game-changing goals in big clashes. Harry Kane actually is a world class striker and he has shown his ability in Premier League, big tournaments with England team like Euro and World Cup. However, at least we must think of one thing, he has never played outside Premier League. Bayern looks to be more determinant than Manchester United and they even will get a $20M discount from Tottenham which only want to sell the striker at price $100M+ if the buyers are from Premier League. 100m over priced for him.
Bayern Munich will get good discount from Tottenham if they complete this deal. Totenham didn't evne care with last bid from bayern. Bayern is now preparing another bid for him. As far as i know that if kane and bayern already reached personal agreement but totenham was the problem here. I just know that if totenham wanna gives discounted price for non EPL club but let's see how it will be going on. Totenham has no choice other than sell him this summer because kane is only having 1 year contract left at this moment. His contract will expire june 2024. Kane is very expensive for me although totenham was offering such discount to buy him for non EPL club. The problem is such price is not even worthy with 1 year contract left owned by kane to the totenham. I just read some news said that if totenham prefers to see kane stay in the club even longer but there's no new contract offered by totenham to him. Kane needs to go to the bayern.
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June 28, 2023, 02:08:05 PM |
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Actually talking about current talent there is one that can be looked at for next season like now they will try to maximize Ryan Gravenberch or Musiala but indeed this is back again they are only midfielders trying to improve the quality of attacks but there is still no striker who can be used as benchmark in this case. As you said buying with money is a short way to do it but until now they haven't done that yet and their focus is still on Kane. I was expecting other options but until now when talking about strikers Bayern still seem to be focused on Kane and when that doesn't work it will be a bit of a problem. There is again something in the making around Kane and this time it has been officially confirmed by Bayern that they sent an offer to Tottenham trying to transfer Kane for €70 million. But so far it seems that Tottenham refused the offer although Bayern and Kane have agreed upon the terms for a contract. That is what the news say but it is worthless as long as Tottenham doesn't agree to sell him for €70 million. Bayern knows that they don't have that many options to fix that problem now but I can see how Bayern is struggling to pay more for Kane. He isn't young anymore and the closer they get to the 100 million for this transfer, the higher the risk if course. If he gets injured, it would be a horrible situation for them as they would be in the same situation again. Bayern Munich may have been struggling with their offensive issues for a while expecting that young players from their own youth teams would step up and save the day, but the truth is that the game has advanced quickly. Patience is a luxury few football players can afford in today fast paced environment. It seems like a long time ago when a player like Thomas Muller who Louis van Gaal identified and developed first broke through. The club need on quick fixes and large investments illustrates the hurry they are in. Sadly the diminishing chances for young players to prove themselves in the first squad only make the problem worse. Bayern Munich is caught between the need for immediate success and the desire for domestic success underlining the difficulties of juggling long term development with pressing necessities in the always changing world of football.
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I don't remember Union Berlin joining the Champions League before. This must be their first time I assume. Therefore they are going to be an inexperienced team in the tournament. However I'm pretty sure they will care about it much more than the Europa League. Because they can increase their income significantly by getting positive results as much as possbile.
They need to get lucky with the draw as well though. If they have a really tough group in which all teams look challenging then Union Berlin might not do much. Even if they drop down to the Europa League at the end it would be great for them anyway.
Union Berlin needs to improve far enough if they want to perform well and be able to compete in the Champions League next season, although they get an easy draw and can qualify for the group phase the knockout stage will certainly be different and difficult to survive when facing other teams who have good experience in this tournament, maybe Union Berlin will focus more on domestic competitions to be able to finish in the top four again while continuing to develop their team more and more It's even better. The Europa League may be different but wherever they will compete they have to prepare well and with the same good core and reserve players so there will be no obstacles when rotating skuad because they have to play many games due to competing in several tournaments.
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