Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[pusaka]

It's very shameful Leverkusen lose against Werder Bremen in their own home.

I understand Xabi is prepare for a match against Bayern Munich in Champions League, but you can't just underestimate your opponent by playing with many second tier players. Xabi should use his best lineup for starting, then after they scored one or two goals, he can substitute the important players to rest.

This lose decrease their chance to win Bundesliga.

Leverkusen's horrible performance enough to prove they are Wirtz FC. They always played without pattern when no Wirtz in their line-up. I see nothing positive showed by them in this game.

The only positive is their they got some luck when their main rival also lost three points. The lost must be a wake up call their coach, Xabi to never pair Xhaka with Garcia. It will never work.

There are 2 teams that got embarrassing results and the 2 teams are the teams that are in first and second place in the standings, previously Bayern Munich had to lose to Bochum and Leverkusen also experienced the same result when they hosted Werder Bremen, what is more embarrassing is that both were defeated when playing at home. No one expected this result to happen, including me. I also thought both of them would be able to win, but the fact is that both of them had to lose. After the defeat was felt by both teams, they will meet again in the second leg of the Champions League round of 16 match. Leverkusen is already 3 goals behind in aggregate, Bayern Munich is on top.

[hyudien]

Honestly, I was very surprised by the defeat suffered by Bayern Munich when they hosted Bochum, yes they had to lose at their own home base, it was very embarrassing. Even though they played with 10 men, they were also ahead by 2 goals first, and also losing 1 player could still make them dominate the game. Previously I said that I was sure Bayern Munich would be able to win this match, but it turned out I was wrong. Indeed they were able to take the lead first, but even then it could only last until the first half. Luckily their competitors also lost this week.

[yenerbatmaz]

Honestly, I was very surprised by the defeat suffered by Bayern Munich when they hosted Bochum, yes they had to lose at their own home base, it was very embarrassing. Even though they played with 10 men, they were also ahead by 2 goals first, and also losing 1 player could still make them dominate the game. Previously I said that I was sure Bayern Munich would be able to win this match, but it turned out I was wrong. Indeed they were able to take the lead first, but even then it could only last until the first half. Luckily their competitors also lost this week.

If Bayern Munich had been on the field with their regular squad, they would have won the match even if Bochum was leading 0-2 and Bayern played with 10 players.
The main problem here is the presence of substitutes on the field.
I had said in my betting slip that Augsburg and Bremen would win away. Augsburg was playing Dortmund, Bremen was playing Leverkusen and they had good odds. I didn't dare to play Bochum but I thought about it.
Then I regretted it. Because Bochum won too.
The biggest problem for many teams is that the substitutes on the team don't play against each other as a team, so they have a lot of trouble getting along. Even if Bochum is in a lower quality team, they know each other.
Also, many teams are on the field with extra motivation when playing against a big team.
This is normal.

[Velvet78]

The Bundesliga is a big trap for gamblers honestly. Have you noticed an important detail? For 2 game weeks, there is literally 0 home team that won. Just what is this man? 

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/matchday/2024-2025/24

This is the official Bundesliga website. Just check out Matchday 24 and 25 results, you will understand what I mean.

This is enough reason for me to bet much less often on this league. Even if I do, my bet choices are related to goals (such as BTTS etc.).

[Hirose UK]

Honestly, I was very surprised by the defeat suffered by Bayern Munich when they hosted Bochum, yes they had to lose at their own home base, it was very embarrassing. Even though they played with 10 men, they were also ahead by 2 goals first, and also losing 1 player could still make them dominate the game. Previously I said that I was sure Bayern Munich would be able to win this match, but it turned out I was wrong. Indeed they were able to take the lead first, but even then it could only last until the first half. Luckily their competitors also lost this week.

It was really lucky day for Bochum as they were able to come back from goal deficit and beat Bayern Munich away, haha ​​we haven't seen such surprising result and match for long time and this week we can witnes.
True that Leverkusen lost also made the points difference between them unchanged, but even though Leverkusen won this week it still gave big difference, see later whatever happens Bayern Munich will win the title.

[Farma]

Honestly, I was very surprised by the defeat suffered by Bayern Munich when they hosted Bochum, yes they had to lose at their own home base, it was very embarrassing. Even though they played with 10 men, they were also ahead by 2 goals first, and also losing 1 player could still make them dominate the game. Previously I said that I was sure Bayern Munich would be able to win this match, but it turned out I was wrong. Indeed they were able to take the lead first, but even then it could only last until the first half. Luckily their competitors also lost this week.

The second half put pressure on Munich players to face the relegation zone team, Munich should have been able to win even though they played with 10 players because the players owned by Bochum did not put too much pressure on them, but in this meeting Munich again showed poor defensive performance which made them lose, and I hope this defeat does not become something unwanted when facing Leverkusen in the second round of the Champions League, in my opinion the violation committed by Palhinha was also unnecessary, it was very dangerous and it was natural to get a card from the referee, and in my opinion this defeat was caused by Palhinha.

And fortunately Leverkusen also suffered a defeat from Bremen in front of their own supporters Leverkusen did not have the guts, Bremen managed to win with a score of 0-2 from the host and in my opinion Munich will win the Bundesliga trophy again, in fact Leverkusen could not move after the defeat from Munich in the Champions League and also the consecutive defeats from Bremen even though Munich also suffered a defeat but in my opinion they will soon rise and develop as usual.

[LGD2Business]

Bad news for Leverkusen. Florian Wirtz is injured. This will affect Bayer Leverkusen very much. He had a very good performance in the league with 9 goals and 10 assists. In the Werder Bremen game, Wirtz came on in the second half and had to come off after 15 minutes. Leerkusen lost that game and it was their second defeat in the league. Just when they were getting close to Bayern München, this bad news and defeat came. In the same week that Bayern München lost, they didn't get any points. Without Wirtz, their offense will be affected. Of course they have Shick and Boniface, but Leverkusen also need scoring contributions from other players.

[Inwestour]

Honestly, I was very surprised by the defeat suffered by Bayern Munich when they hosted Bochum, yes they had to lose at their own home base, it was very embarrassing. Even though they played with 10 men, they were also ahead by 2 goals first, and also losing 1 player could still make them dominate the game. Previously I said that I was sure Bayern Munich would be able to win this match, but it turned out I was wrong. Indeed they were able to take the lead first, but even then it could only last until the first half. Luckily their competitors also lost this week.

The reason for their defeat was the red card, because before that they controlled the game and were leading 2-1. Even after the red card I hoped that they could hold on to the winning score, but Bochum was stronger and Bayer also lost their game, so it didn't change anything at the top of the table, the difference between the teams remained the same. Now they will play each other in the Champions League, but there is almost no intrigue there, Bayer will not be able to make up for the difference of 3 goals.

[Akbarkoe]

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Mainz have probably been the luckiest team this week. The point losses of their rivals in the race for the top brought them closer to the summit, albeit slightly. No matter how large and rotation friendly the squad is, Champions League matches tire teams mentally and physically. We saw proof of that this week. It is likely that both Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich will have their minds on this week's Champions League match, so they could not concentrate on the Bundesliga.

I never thought that Eintracht Frankfurt would have quite difficult weeks, even in their last 3 matches Eintracht Frankfurt got a series of bad results with 3 consecutive defeats. And even worse, it made them have to be shifted from 3rd position in the standings by Mainz 05. And this series of bad results cannot be separated from the departure of Omar Marmoush from the team, Eintracht Frankfurt was too quick to release Omar Marmoush in the middle of the season, and if they Marmoush could last longer until the end of the season, I think Eintracht Frankfurt could compete closely at the top of the standings.

Meanwhile, regarding Mainz 05, they have recently shown quite impressive performance, but it is very unfortunate that even though they are in 3rd position, the points they currently have are still far from the achievements of Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich.

[cande86]

Indeed, UCL is a different league and it's very hard.
In the quarter-final qualifying competition, the two giant clubs of Bundesliga unfortunately have to meet. I thought, Leverkusen could really match Bayern Munich like in the domestic league heir. but it turned out, it was very unlucky for Leverkusen who had to get a very disappointing result. Not only a humiliating defeat of 3-0 but also a red card for one of their main defenders. So, it seems that Leverkusen has a small chance even though there is still a second leg.

Xabi also admitted that it was their fault, a bad performance, quite bad control, and made a lot of mistakes. They learnt many things from this.
And they need a miracle to pass to the next round in the second leg.

Source: Bayer Leverkusen manager Xabi Alonso said

Clear, we all know that the Champions League is very hard as competition and that the teams and players are truly under pressure when they play in this competition. The thing is obvious, but obvious if we want.
If you want to participate among the best and you are not the best you will make much effort.

[Lida93]

I remember someone writing before this round that Dortmund is back  But in reality, everything is absolutely the same, today they couldn't even score one point and ended up in 10th place. Considering that there are fewer and fewer rounds left until the end, the chances of getting into the European Cups are melting very quickly.
The results of Bayern and Bayer are less surprising as the clubs are firmly in their positions in the standings and are now focused more on the Champions League.

This season has been a very tedious one for Borussia Dortmund and considering their current position I don't think things would get any better and it seems a chance to play in any of the European competitions is in view for the Dortmund side. Bayern Munich and Bayer Leverkusen had a very bad day at the office yesterday and would be looking forward to bouncing back as soon as possible but it was quite a good one for Bayern Munich because the Leverkusen side also suffered a defeat too so there isn't much to worry for Bayern.

In fact, Dortmund has been very disappointing in domestic competitions since last season. They've only hinted at a resurgence but have never been able to perform consistently up to this point. I agree that the European zone is far out of Dortmund reach. If they do get lucky in the end, I think they'll only be a Europa Conference League qualifier.

Dortmund been a second most decorated team in the Germans bundesliga it is going be a humiliating reality that at the end of this season Dortmund couldn't make it to either the UCL or Europa league which are the only two European leagues within the standard they have set for the club in recent years. Manager Niko Kovac isn't living up to expectations with the team and I won't be surprised he gets sacked at the end of the season, because the inconsistency of Dortmund in the domestic league and the position they currently occupied on the table doesn't read anything good about their performance and form.

Actually, it wasn't just Bayern Munich and Leverkusen that had a bad day, overall, 9 out of the top 10 teams in the standings experienced the same, except for Mainz. In my opinion, the only thing that worries Kompany in the remaining 9 games is the injury problem, although Leverkusen will still try to put pressure until the end of the season.

very true and it should have been an opportunity for Dortmund to leave the 10th place to go up the table had it been they won their game but their poor form got the best of them making Augsburg whisk away all three points with a lone goal.

[KTChampions]

I remember someone writing before this round that Dortmund is back  But in reality, everything is absolutely the same, today they couldn't even score one point and ended up in 10th place

And we had that discussion about the adversaries, they were against it, remember?
They made all those gains against teams that were on the last places, the moment they meet with even middle tier teams they start to sweat, and what's next for them is close to a nightmare, 4 top 6 teams in 4 matches.

Anyhow, nobody really cares about Dortmund anymore.

What Bayern and Bayer did this round was, how can I say it, an onslaught on bettors, so here is the recap for the round:
Bayern , 1.17 fav , loss
Bayer,  1.33 fav , loss
Dortmund , 1.40 fav , loss
Stuttgart, 1.50 fav , draw

If someone could have predicted the winners and draws in Bundesliga this round, the parlay was 2898630
Yes, $1 to $3 million!

Yes, I remember and agree that it's time to forget about Dortmund - it's a random team from the middle of the table that is unreliable for betting, and in general is not worth attention because it causes irritation. For me it's an Arsenal clone 

One in 3 million sounds cool, but are you sure about the math? It turns out that you had to guess 9 outcomes with an average coefficient of about 5.25, I see 4 draws in this round, usually they are quoted as 3.3-3.6, definitely less than 4. Did the odds of the remaining games compensate for the deviation from the required coefficient?

[DanWalker]

Honestly, I was very surprised by the defeat suffered by Bayern Munich when they hosted Bochum, yes they had to lose at their own home base, it was very embarrassing. Even though they played with 10 men, they were also ahead by 2 goals first, and also losing 1 player could still make them dominate the game. Previously I said that I was sure Bayern Munich would be able to win this match, but it turned out I was wrong. Indeed they were able to take the lead first, but even then it could only last until the first half. Luckily their competitors also lost this week.

Well the expectations were wrong and Die Roten ended up losing the match. Actually them having to play with only 10 men in the field from the 40 minutes of the match has been responsible a lot for this loss.

If you look at the match Kompany's men started very well , Raphaël Guerreiro also scored two goals pretty early in the match. then the conceded one. when in the 42nd minute, Munich had to lose the most valuable midfielder João Palhinha, if you look closely because of a red card they started playing very differently and Bochum also got a lot more confident as well.  Harry Kane was helpless cause Kompany sent him in the 62nd minute, already Bochum netted 2 goals meanwhile.

I thought that this was going to make a lot of difference in the table and Xabi Alonso would be able to take advantage of that. But they also lost their last match as well, so sad..

[stompix]

One in 3 million sounds cool, but are you sure about the math? It turns out that you had to guess 9 outcomes with an average coefficient of about 5.25, I see 4 draws in this round, usually they are quoted as 3.3-3.6, definitely less than 4. Did the odds of the remaining games compensate for the deviation from the required coefficient?

Bochum was 14.7, Augsburg 8.1, Werder 8.9, that alone is x1500.
As a comparison and to see how insane this was, the entire Serie A winning parlay would have been x1400.

You can play with the odds on the results here:
https://www.oddsportal.com/football/germany/bundesliga/results/

But I really doubt anyone could have predicted that even in a billion tickets, because well, I get it, you bet on the underdog, but then again you must have taken Mainz as a winner and how would that come in place in all that mess.

[SatoPrincess]

The Bundesliga is a big trap for gamblers honestly. Have you noticed an important detail? For 2 game weeks, there is literally 0 home team that won. Just what is this man? 

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/matchday/2024-2025/24

This is the official Bundesliga website. Just check out Matchday 24 and 25 results, you will understand what I mean.

This is enough reason for me to bet much less often on this league. Even if I do, my bet choices are related to goals (such as BTTS etc.).

It would be wise to stay clear off the Bundesliga this days or rather opt for other betting options like betting on amount of goals, corner kicks etc. Betting these days have taken a different turn not only in the Bundesliga but also in other leagues as well. It takes much concentration and very good analysis to win bets this days.

[TelolettOm]

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Clear, we all know that the Champions League is very hard as competition and that the teams and players are truly under pressure when they play in this competition. The thing is obvious, but obvious if we want.
If you want to participate among the best and you are not the best you will make much effort.

Yes, and indeed there are often some unexpected surprises in UCL matches. who are ready both before the match and during the match, then they will win, ready from various aspects. Well, Leverkusen's defeat from Bayern is quite reasonable, only the expectation is that at least Leverkusen can score a goal so that the aggregate is not too much, but unfortunately, 3 goals without a goal, that is a fairly difficult path to revenge

Well, I think Frankfurt could be different from Bayern Munich and Leverkusen. But it turns out, Frankfurt also threw away many opportunities. Their failure to get 3 points because they lost to Union Berlin, even though they had a lot of chances. In the second half, Frankfurt's performance declined quite a bit, especially conceding 2 goals.

Source: Eintracht Frankfurt vs Union Berlin

[len01]

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Well, I think Frankfurt could be different from Bayern Munich and Leverkusen. But it turns out, Frankfurt also threw away many opportunities. Their failure to get 3 points because they lost to Union Berlin, even though they had a lot of chances. In the second half, Frankfurt's performance declined quite a bit, especially conceding 2 goals.

It seems that these 3 teams suffered defeat due to the impact of the upcoming UCL match schedule so that some players did not perform optimally. We can see from the statistics in the following picture.


Statistics Frankfurt vs Union Berlin

It is clear that Frankfurt actually has a great chance to score and even can hold the match to a draw. Unfortunately, Frankfurt players must appear to maintain their physicality so as not to force themselves to score a winning score and sacrifice their physicality. But actually this is dangerous for their current position which can provide an opportunity for Freiburg to shift Frankfurt's position.

[mammusu]

Damn , what a crazy and a surprisefull matchday this weekend was , everytime Bayern Munich lose or playing a draw all the other teams miss there chance.
Nobody expected that Bayern Munich and also Leverkusen will be losing there games , but Dortmund played there worst game this season i think.
On top of that Frankfurt losing at home against Union Berlin , most of my bets was wrong.

I am totally at a loss for words. It was truly a weekend full of surprises in the bundesliga. The big boys Bayern Munich, leverkusen, dortmund, and Eintracht Frankfurt failed to deliver, making it almost impossible for bettors to win their bets due to these shocking results. This just goes to show that football remains unpredictable, and no team can be taken for granted, no matter their reputation.

Honestly, of the top 3 teams competing this week, I thought before only Frankfurt would find it difficult to win from union berlin, but in reality not only Frankfurt lost, in fact all the big teams even munchen must to get a painful defeat this week from a weaker teams, the defeat of munchen and leverkusen did not have an impact on the current title competition, while frankfurt, which was previously ranked 3rd, had to drop to 4th after mainz won, the results of the match in the 25th week are currently starting to make the competition for the remaining two champions league tickets in positions 3 and 4 tighter and more interesting, because there are several teams that will tackle each other to get it until end season later.

[ITExpert]

In my opinion, it was not only shameful but also disappointing to see Leverkusen lose to Werder Bremen on their own turf. This result has hampered Leverkusen's hope of upsetting Bayern Munich in the race for the Bundesliga title this season. Dropping points at this stage of the season puts added pressure on Leverkusen, as any further slip ups could give Bayern Munich the upper hand in their pursuit for yet another league title.

I fully agree with you. Leverkusen loss to Werder Bremen at home was very disappointing and embarrassing. This loss has hurt their chances of winning Bundesliga title. Now Bayern Munich has good chance to take advantage of Leverkusen mistake. As season is almost over Leverkusen can not afford to lose any more points. If they do Bayern Munich will have upper hand in title race. Leverkusen is now under a lot of pressure to bounce back and win several games in row to stay in running for the title.

Yes, this match was quite unexpected because Leverkusen was expected to win this match because everyone knows how strong they are but seeing the time they are ruining their record no one gave them hope because many people claim that Leverkusen is really the strongest team which is totally wrong because Leverkusen decided to destroy themselves like Manchester United and Manchester City did. Even if Bayern Munich did not get this opportunity, their record would not have changed much, because Bayern Munich is still far ahead of Leverkusen, so if they lose enough matches, Bayern Munich's record will not be a problem. Leverkusen can do it because they are an experienced team so it won't be difficult if they play hard and with passion.  Bayern Munich do not have to weaken now because it is the final moments that will make them stronger.

[Hyphen(-)]

It seems that these 3 teams suffered defeat due to the impact of the upcoming UCL match schedule so that some players did not perform optimally. We can see from the statistics in the following picture.


Statistics Frankfurt vs Union Berlin

It is clear that Frankfurt actually has a great chance to score and even can hold the match to a draw. Unfortunately, Frankfurt players must appear to maintain their physicality so as not to force themselves to score a winning score and sacrifice their physicality. But actually this is dangerous for their current position which can provide an opportunity for Freiburg to shift Frankfurt's position.

Of course, there is an impact of the UEFA Europa League game they played in this match. The players appear so tired because there is no enough time to rest after their Europa League game against Ajax, and they need to save energy for their next Europa League game because the 2-1 win is not enough for them to make it to the quarterfinals because anything can happen. That is why some players were kept on the bench.
This should also not be an excuse for them because they need to put more effort into maintaining their fourth position in the Bundesliga, since the teams under them are one, two, or three points behind them from the fourth position to the ninth position; any mistake of losing can drop them drastically to the mid-table.