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January 17, 2016, 01:20:56 AM
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Since trading fees went to 0 there never came another payout from Paul's shares either.

I didn't use cryptsy, but what sense does it make to drop trading fees to 0% when you're trying to make good on insolvency? I would have thought that collecting trading fees would be your best hope of making up the shortfall.

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January 17, 2016, 01:21:38 AM
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When fractional reserving's not working for you; crypto exchange 101; pull out the ol our coins got stolen one  Roll Eyes
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January 17, 2016, 01:23:07 AM
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Ok, so tell me, why didn't anyone noticed earlier Cryptsy was running an infected wallet?

@Mullick committed on Apr 23, 2015

https://github.com/Mullick/lucky7coin/commit/799b0b6b65a8fdd827d0d1406868d34a045ea779

On May 12, 2015, BitJohn tags him as the wallet manager. Shocked
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1288207.msg13578049#msg13578049

For starters, jlong187 lives 90 miles due south of Jim Shockney (Orange & Pineland, TX, respectively).

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198142645623/namehistory



whos steam account is that? its private. is this bitjohns or?

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January 17, 2016, 01:23:59 AM
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Since trading fees went to 0 there never came another payout from Paul's shares either.

I didn't use cryptsy, but what sense does it make to drop trading fees to 0% when you're trying to make good on insolvency? I would have thought that collecting trading fees would be your best hope of making up the shortfall.


0% trading fee, people deposit more coins to trade for free, charge instead % for withdrawal so people leave their coins on your platform.....sounds like the perfect plan if you're coming undone with not having the coins on your books.
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January 17, 2016, 01:25:22 AM
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I see that the Cryptsy.com web page is now up. Now everyone can check their balances again to see if they accurately reflect what Paul Vernon will be stealing from them.

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January 17, 2016, 01:26:16 AM
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Ok, so tell me, why didn't anyone noticed earlier Cryptsy was running an infected wallet?

@Mullick committed on Apr 23, 2015

https://github.com/Mullick/lucky7coin/commit/799b0b6b65a8fdd827d0d1406868d34a045ea779

On May 12, 2015, BitJohn tags him as the wallet manager. Shocked
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1288207.msg13578049#msg13578049

For starters, jlong187 lives 90 miles due south of Jim Shockney (Orange & Pineland, TX, respectively).

The one that allegedly put the backdoor in is "alerj78"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=295157.msg6861797#msg6861797
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=295157.msg7769393#msg7769393
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January 17, 2016, 01:29:41 AM
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I didn't use cryptsy, but what sense does it make to drop trading fees to 0% when you're trying to make good on insolvency? I would have thought that collecting trading fees would be your best hope of making up the shortfall.

0% trading fee, people deposit more coins to trade for free, charge instead % for withdrawal so people leave their coins on your platform.....sounds like the perfect plan if you're coming undone with not having the coins on your books.

OK, thanks, that makes sense.

Charge a fee on withdrawals so you still have a way of making up the shortfall while simultaneously encouraging people to leave their coins with you so a) your insolvency is less likely to become apparent and b) if it all goes wrong you have more coins to exit scam with.


I remember after MtGox went belly up there was a lot of noise made about requiring exchanges to do regular proof-of-solvency audits. Whatever happened to this? Is it still standard practice for exchanges to just ask their clients to trust that they are solvent?

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January 17, 2016, 01:32:41 AM
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Since trading fees went to 0 there never came another payout from Paul's shares either.

I didn't use cryptsy, but what sense does it make to drop trading fees to 0% when you're trying to make good on insolvency? I would have thought that collecting trading fees would be your best hope of making up the shortfall.

it was desperation. paul claims lots of withdrawals occurred after coinfire articles so this could be true. Paul couldn't afford to pay out the withdrawals so had to create a method to scare people into not withdrawing while hiding it under the whole but now you can trade for free... It did reduce their income but it was Paul trying to prevent the insolvency being exposed earlier.

Paybans were an immature stupid way to have people ban and get more money to cryptsy. I think they were hoping people would 1 day ban others for bigger fees.

I suspect too that cryptsy had big reserves of doge and the like they wanted to direct people to trade to so they could recoup the btc while under the whole 0 trade fees.

Problem was his ploy didn't work and when people kept withdrawing the reserve got too low so they played the technical issues.

Pauls wife knew how much shit she was in so she just bailed... I guess love only goes so far.

Has anyone actually calculated the amount cryptsy lost? not in $$$$ USD or bitcoin I mean a %%%% of cryptsy's entire holdings? I suspect it would of been around 70%
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January 17, 2016, 01:33:55 AM
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Since trading fees went to 0 there never came another payout from Paul's shares either.

I didn't use cryptsy, but what sense does it make to drop trading fees to 0% when you're trying to make good on insolvency? I would have thought that collecting trading fees would be your best hope of making up the shortfall.


0% trading fee, people deposit more coins to trade for free, charge instead % for withdrawal so people leave their coins on your platform.....sounds like the perfect plan if you're coming undone with not having the coins on your books.

Is no-one else concerned that those coins might also disappear?

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January 17, 2016, 01:34:32 AM
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I see that the Cryptsy.com web page is now up. Now everyone can check their balances again to see if they accurately reflect what Paul Vernon will be stealing from them.



How about the asshole re-enables chat... how else are people to give him leads? He could come on the chat box and talk with people and face the music unless he's indeed the coward everyone thinks he is?

If he doesn't like the trollbox maybe he can use the lucky7 wallet irc Smiley .... that was sarcasm.
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January 17, 2016, 01:36:37 AM
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Since trading fees went to 0 there never came another payout from Paul's shares either.

I didn't use cryptsy, but what sense does it make to drop trading fees to 0% when you're trying to make good on insolvency? I would have thought that collecting trading fees would be your best hope of making up the shortfall.


0% trading fee, people deposit more coins to trade for free, charge instead % for withdrawal so people leave their coins on your platform.....sounds like the perfect plan if you're coming undone with not having the coins on your books.

Is no-one else concerned that those coins might also disappear?

Pauls already in deep enough shit with 13,000 btc and 300,000 ltc I don't think he's stupid enough to add more years to his sentence for the other altcoins.
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January 17, 2016, 01:38:10 AM
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Since trading fees went to 0 there never came another payout from Paul's shares either.

I didn't use cryptsy, but what sense does it make to drop trading fees to 0% when you're trying to make good on insolvency? I would have thought that collecting trading fees would be your best hope of making up the shortfall.


0% trading fee, people deposit more coins to trade for free, charge instead % for withdrawal so people leave their coins on your platform.....sounds like the perfect plan if you're coming undone with not having the coins on your books.

That was my queue to split...

I took a hit on the unannounced 0.5% withdraw fee (before they added vouchers), and asked them to close my account, and delete my personal info (they didn't)

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January 17, 2016, 01:40:30 AM
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Pauls already in deep enough shit with 13,000 btc and 300,000 ltc I don't think he's stupid enough to add more years to his sentence for the other altcoins.

Paul exaggerates, it was only 11,325 BTC and 247,508 LTC (and likely, but not confirmed 456,501 Dash, and 9.727 Billion DOGE)

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January 17, 2016, 01:44:34 AM
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Since trading fees went to 0 there never came another payout from Paul's shares either.

I didn't use cryptsy, but what sense does it make to drop trading fees to 0% when you're trying to make good on insolvency? I would have thought that collecting trading fees would be your best hope of making up the shortfall.

it was desperation. paul claims lots of withdrawals occurred after coinfire articles so this could be true. Paul couldn't afford to pay out the withdrawals so had to create a method to scare people into not withdrawing while hiding it under the whole but now you can trade for free... It did reduce their income but it was Paul trying to prevent the insolvency being exposed earlier.

Paybans were an immature stupid way to have people ban and get more money to cryptsy. I think they were hoping people would 1 day ban others for bigger fees.

I suspect too that cryptsy had big reserves of doge and the like they wanted to direct people to trade to so they could recoup the btc while under the whole 0 trade fees.

Problem was his ploy didn't work and when people kept withdrawing the reserve got too low so they played the technical issues.

Pauls wife knew how much shit she was in so she just bailed... I guess love only goes so far.

Has anyone actually calculated the amount cryptsy lost? not in $$$$ USD or bitcoin I mean a %%%% of cryptsy's entire holdings? I suspect it would of been around 70%

more importantly it showed AGAIN how Vern was there and tinkering with site code making changes.
while hiding
Priorities ? say and do nothing about site problems that were acknowledged..
because there was nothing fix i guess we found out later.. hackers.

paybans are only good for shill's ass kissing and advertising.

@Gleb
I checked that site isup.me last time Cryptsy got DDOS'd
remember i reported RarBG got hit too and this time KAT too ?
I didn't just Google it then.. i had it bookmarked it for about a decade or so now.

Point being is i tested it and it was NOT working right *last time*
It was reporting 'down' on me either way i was pretty sure.
But NOW ? it seems to work fine so uhhmm well fuck i don't know LOL
I guess it must have been the Med's again man ahahhah

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AND I DO have a problem with HippieTech he's an idiot nutjob.
If that cunt wants to jab away at me endlessly i will finally lift a finger to stuff it in his ass.. Exposing HIS BS !
HippieTech i have bent over backwards to appease you and you still act like a colossal fucking prick to me.
enough's enough ya fucking goof.

Hey idiot..
I am not in cahoots with any shit coin teams or am i anybody else and NO i never made any coins.
Stop being a fucking retard.
YOU ARE acting like a fucking wacko moron drunk on conspiracy theories.
And..
You seem to fail at grasping what Off-Topic means.
This entire forum is nothing but a goose chase to harass people.
No matter what the topic is about you just show up & hijack it with an endless rant / conspiracy.

You have NEVER had one shed of proof to back up any idiot claim against me so fuck of already crazy idiot.

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January 17, 2016, 01:48:09 AM
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Ok, so tell me, why didn't anyone noticed earlier Cryptsy was running an infected wallet?

@Mullick committed on Apr 23, 2015

https://github.com/Mullick/lucky7coin/commit/799b0b6b65a8fdd827d0d1406868d34a045ea779

It means Mullick is now complicit in the entire thing. Not only was their an infected wallet they never disclosed this to their public for the clients wallets nor as something naughty being Fincen registered right?

I don't think Mullicks ignorance will hold up. The guy ran ages ago... I think he realised sooner than the rest and the fact that he didn't report it means he allowed it to continue as well.

Let's not forget Horus telling us he knew something was wrong but continued to work for Paul Vernon. Saving face now won't help... Not filing the SAR for the theft in and of itself is just the beginning of the Fed charges that will ostensibly come out of this.

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Since trading fees went to 0 there never came another payout from Paul's shares either.

I didn't use cryptsy, but what sense does it make to drop trading fees to 0% when you're trying to make good on insolvency? I would have thought that collecting trading fees would be your best hope of making up the shortfall.


0% trading fee, people deposit more coins to trade for free, charge instead % for withdrawal so people leave their coins on your platform.....sounds like the perfect plan if you're coming undone with not having the coins on your books.

That was my queue to split...

I took a hit on the unannounced 0.5% withdraw fee (before they added vouchers), and asked them to close my account, and delete my personal info (they didn't)

They "lost" a big LTC deposit of mine for weeks then suddenly found it when I filed a Better Business Bureau complain in Florida. That was the day I moved almost everything I could to Bittrex. It just didn't smell right. I was pissed over the lost LTC but got paranoid when complaining to an external agency recovered it. Seriously?

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If I ran an exchange, and had $12.7 million stolen from my investors...

I would report it to the police/FBI immediately... right?

They might have found the culprit 18 months ago, and returned the funds?

Perhaps it was an inside job...

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January 17, 2016, 01:55:42 AM
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I see that the Cryptsy.com web page is now up. Now everyone can check their balances again to see if they accurately reflect what Paul Vernon will be stealing from them.



How about the asshole re-enables chat... how else are people to give him leads? He could come on the chat box and talk with people and face the music unless he's indeed the coward everyone thinks he is?

If he doesn't like the trollbox maybe he can use the lucky7 wallet irc Smiley .... that was sarcasm.

Come to IRC so you can tell me.. i promise i won't collect the reward fro myself.
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January 17, 2016, 02:06:20 AM
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If I ran an exchange, and had $12.7 million stolen from my investors...

I would report it to the police/FBI immediately... right?

They might have found the culprit 18 months ago, and returned the funds?

Perhaps it was an inside job...
Or just another episode of amateur hour?

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January 17, 2016, 02:08:55 AM
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If I ran an exchange, and had $12.7 million stolen from my investors...

I would report it to the police/FBI immediately... right?

They might have found the culprit 18 months ago, and returned the funds?

Perhaps it was an inside job...
Or just another episode of amateur hour?

Who doesn't report a $12.7M theft to the police?  Anyone besides a criminal?

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