[ANN] Expanse (EXP) - 1st Stable fork of Ethereum (New Algo + PirlGuard)

[altcoinex]

how many coins is in circulation now? i'm not using 64bit windows console....

Excluding the DAO/Dev Contract Lock Funds which will not be accessed without the DAO and for some time: 318572.293480163

[fonzerrellie]

How do yall feel about this gui wallet?

F#CK YES!!!

[altcoinex]

How do yall feel about this gui wallet?

I would like to note this is a slightly outdated beta screenshot. While very similar, it does look a little different now.

[Xdragon]

wow, wallet looks classy. Great job

[1echo]

hidden premine... scammy to me

[defaced]

hidden premine... scammy to me

lol hidden? where?

[BitcoinSanDiego]

Hello gents.  Please don't take this as FUD.

Show of hands, how many people are in the hole on their investment in this project?  I'm not invested in this project yet as I'm trying to figure out what exactly its' purpose is and where the value will come from.  I am aware of Frankocoin which has been around for a long time and I know that defaced has been involved in the cryptosphere for a long time, so it's obvious that he's a decent developer with a reputation for coming through.  But just forking Ethereum, changing hashing algorithms, and increasing the block time isn't necessarily innovation and doesn't really warrant a premine.  Although I'm glad their identities are public as that adds a LOT of trust.  Right now, I'm thinking 45k satoshis is fair value in the short term.

Has anyone done any blockchain analysis to see where pre-mined coins have gone so far?

[Hazcat]

How do yall feel about this gui wallet?

I would like to note this is a slightly outdated beta screenshot. While very similar, it does look a little different now.

Love the look of this!

[Marvell1]

Having problems trying to mine this on ubuntu 15.4

I had no problems mining Eth on the same box , ethminer is already installed.

I installed gexp with no issues and have peers as well as the console going but i cant

geth ethminer to see the rpc instance

As you can see console is fine i started it with :  build/bin/gexp --rpc --rpcaddr 192.168.0.103 console




i used the same ethminer string i used before :
ethminer --cl-global-work 8192 --cl-local-work 128  -G -F http://192.168.0.103:8545 --farm-recheck 100 --no-precompute

but all i see is :

Code:

miner  09:31:08|ethminer  Getting work package...
  ✘  09:31:08|ethminer  Failed to submit hashrate.
  ✘  09:31:08|ethminer  Dynamic exception type: N7jsonrpc16JsonRpcExceptionE
std::exception::what: Exception -32003 : Client connector error: libcurl error: 7 -> Could not connect to http://192.168.0.103

JSON-RPC problem. Probably couldn't connect. Retrying in 1...
miner  09:31:10|ethminer  Getting work package...
  ✘  09:31:10|ethminer  Failed to submit hashrate.
  ✘  09:31:10|ethminer  Dynamic exception type: N7jsonrpc16JsonRpcExceptionE
std::exception::what: Exception -32003 : Client connector error: libcurl error: 7 -> Could not connect to http://192.168.0.103

JSON-RPC problem. Probably couldn't connect. Retrying in 2...

Kinda got me stumped here

thanks in advance

Wrong rpc port in ethminer?
default is 9656

Looks like cgt99 noticed something a little more obvious Huzzah!

I tried that port as well same deal, also tried specifying my own port

[nhutphan]

Having problems trying to mine this on ubuntu 15.4

I had no problems mining Eth on the same box , ethminer is already installed.

I installed gexp with no issues and have peers as well as the console going but i cant

geth ethminer to see the rpc instance

As you can see console is fine i started it with :  build/bin/gexp --rpc --rpcaddr 192.168.0.103 console




i used the same ethminer string i used before :
ethminer --cl-global-work 8192 --cl-local-work 128  -G -F http://192.168.0.103:8545 --farm-recheck 100 --no-precompute

but all i see is :

Code:

miner  09:31:08|ethminer  Getting work package...
  ✘  09:31:08|ethminer  Failed to submit hashrate.
  ✘  09:31:08|ethminer  Dynamic exception type: N7jsonrpc16JsonRpcExceptionE
std::exception::what: Exception -32003 : Client connector error: libcurl error: 7 -> Could not connect to http://192.168.0.103

JSON-RPC problem. Probably couldn't connect. Retrying in 1...
miner  09:31:10|ethminer  Getting work package...
  ✘  09:31:10|ethminer  Failed to submit hashrate.
  ✘  09:31:10|ethminer  Dynamic exception type: N7jsonrpc16JsonRpcExceptionE
std::exception::what: Exception -32003 : Client connector error: libcurl error: 7 -> Could not connect to http://192.168.0.103

JSON-RPC problem. Probably couldn't connect. Retrying in 2...

Kinda got me stumped here

thanks in advance

Wrong rpc port in ethminer?
default is 9656

Looks like cgt99 noticed something a little more obvious Huzzah!

I tried that port as well same deal, also tried specifying my own port

You must make sure use correct command. I saw that you missed --rpcport 9656 in your command.

./gexp --rpc --rpcaddr YOUR_IP --rpcport 9656

Then, start Ethminer with the simplest command:

./ethminer -G -F http://YOUR_IP:9656

[ubeenpaycoind]

Looking this  
It's really worth to buy this coin?

No, stay away from it!!!
This coin is not for you.

  Expanse is for everyone!

it sure is i just bought a little more on the dip, if it falls any lower i might buy some more  

yeah keep buying the premine u dumb@$$   

[P-Funk]

Hello gents.  Please don't take this as FUD.

Show of hands, how many people are in the hole on their investment in this project?  I'm not invested in this project yet as I'm trying to figure out what exactly its' purpose is and where the value will come from.  I am aware of Frankocoin which has been around for a long time and I know that defaced has been involved in the cryptosphere for a long time, so it's obvious that he's a decent developer with a reputation for coming through.  But just forking Ethereum, changing hashing algorithms, and increasing the block time isn't necessarily innovation and doesn't really warrant a premine.  Although I'm glad their identities are public as that adds a LOT of trust.  Right now, I'm thinking 45k satoshis is fair value in the short term.

Has anyone done any blockchain analysis to see where pre-mined coins have gone so far?

https://i.imgur.com/ZImrPbZ.png

The price got whipped up into a frenzy when it hit Poloniex. It's still at a pretty good price (if you're looking to sell) all things considered. I think only people who have bought EXP after it hit Poloniex are in the hole. It was cheap to buy from Bleutrade to Bittrex and it was easy to mine from the launch until Poloniex.

[CryptoClub]

Bitcoinsandiego:

The reserve is mostly for 3rd party development long term, not the founders, and really just enough for the team to cover the time spent and so the pace can be competitive. While you may believe no reserve/premine is needed with an ethereum fork, that could true if we are not producing much new content or planning on making it last a long time, or if we had an ICO or ninja launch instead. We did not. I personally think it is wonderful to try different things and see how they turn out way down the line. For example, we don't have any bad feelings for the other two ETH forks and we think they are also interesting experiments trying slightly different strategies. We think we have the best strategy of course, but we will also get to prove it out over time and others can see.

If you are talking about a project to last years and not a short term one, funding is needed or people just move on.  Franko and I have a lot of experience with this sort of thing, knowing how much funding is needed for getting things done in cryptos and advancing, and what people generally ask for to complete additions. For the quality and amount of development we want to bring to the project, the reserve was carefully chosen based on that. Most of that will be connected to votes and a DAO, a decentralized autonomous organization. This is no easy undertaking and extremely time consuming, but if it is successful this could provide new innovations in cryptos.

I think price speculation is interesting as a trader and miner myself, but clearly if people bought low early on, or mined any time really, they made out quite well. I started mining almost 8 hours late dealing with discussions and working on various elements, only using 4 GPUs, and I mined about .4 BTC worth in a few days. This was actually the most profitable coin I have ever mined and I wasn't there mining at the launch. So I think Expanse is quite successful in that regard, for the miners. We have had an enormous amount of hash power. We quickly got on 4 exchanges, 3 of them major. Things are moving quickly.

I honestly think you need to wait a few weeks for any accurate price evaluations. Once we have the DAO and everything out there, proving with smart contracts exactly how safe the reserve is, and voting starts up, the rest of the key starting elements Dan is working on completed, and when new 3rd party devs start joining in, I think you will have a much better understanding of how long term we intend this to be.

[Colonel Crouton]

Hello gents.  Please don't take this as FUD.

Show of hands, how many people are in the hole on their investment in this project?  I'm not invested in this project yet as I'm trying to figure out what exactly its' purpose is and where the value will come from.  I am aware of Frankocoin which has been around for a long time and I know that defaced has been involved in the cryptosphere for a long time, so it's obvious that he's a decent developer with a reputation for coming through.  But just forking Ethereum, changing hashing algorithms, and increasing the block time isn't necessarily innovation and doesn't really warrant a premine.  Although I'm glad their identities are public as that adds a LOT of trust.  Right now, I'm thinking 45k satoshis is fair value in the short term.

Has anyone done any blockchain analysis to see where pre-mined coins have gone so far?

1. The premine coins are in a multisignature escrow account, that takes a community consensus to spend.

2. The chart you showed is completely predictable because it looks just like any other coin that hit big exchanges very fast.

It would be nice to know how expanse will differentiate from ether. I'm buying shift right now, but once expanse settles and I get a read on what the devs plan, I may start buying expanse.

[Colonel Crouton]

yeah keep buying the premine u dumb@$$   

You are the dumbass because it is easily verifiable that the premine is not being dumped.

How does it feel to look so stupid?

[leftR]

https://i.imgur.com/kQdVQ5y.png

How do yall feel about this gui wallet?

Beautyful wallet.. pro

[Conqueror]

For all of you concerned about premine. Here are the adds, untouched.

"0xbb94f0ceb32257275b2a7a9c094c13e469b4563e": { "balance": "10000000000000000000000000" },
"0x15656715068ab0dbdf0ab00748a8a19e40f28192": { "balance": "1000000000000000000000000"},


For all of you concerned about falling price.
Its called price discovery. I believe fair and sustainable price is around 20k sat with current demand and POW mining dumps.
Any attempts to hover price artificially higher will not end well IMO. Its better to start low so plenty of people can accumulate at
good price and than gradually progress up in long term, thats the way to go. At least I think so.

Do your math, count how much BTC you need to keep 200k price and 20k price per day.
 

For all the trolls and FUDers:
Thats so great you are here, more trolls means we do something right.
We are glad for every single one. Only dead coins are without you dear fuckers.
Come!

[wildduck]

Great wallet, price around 20k is real price

[fonzerrellie]

Hello gents.  Please don't take this as FUD.

Show of hands, how many people are in the hole on their investment in this project?  I'm not invested in this project yet as I'm trying to figure out what exactly its' purpose is and where the value will come from.  I am aware of Frankocoin which has been around for a long time and I know that defaced has been involved in the cryptosphere for a long time, so it's obvious that he's a decent developer with a reputation for coming through.  But just forking Ethereum, changing hashing algorithms, and increasing the block time isn't necessarily innovation and doesn't really warrant a premine.  Although I'm glad their identities are public as that adds a LOT of trust.  Right now, I'm thinking 45k satoshis is fair value in the short term.

Has anyone done any blockchain analysis to see where pre-mined coins have gone so far?

https://i.imgur.com/ZImrPbZ.png

The price got whipped up into a frenzy when it hit Poloniex. It's still at a pretty good price (if you're looking to sell) all things considered. I think only people who have bought EXP after it hit Poloniex are in the hole. It was cheap to buy from Bleutrade to Bittrex and it was easy to mine from the launch until Poloniex.

If people bought during the frenzy on polo that was their own choice, anyone could see it was brand new and no one knew where it's first floor would end up. I bought my second batch from Polo at around 140k knowing there was a big risk that it would settle below what I paid but there was what felt like an equal risk that it would settle higher... so I took the risk. I don't feel "burnt" in the slightest, thats how cryptoland works when it's a legit coin testing the waters of the market place. I'll keep trading to build up my stash and watch the Expanse of my wallet  

I bought into EXP because I think the people involved are top notch and have a great idea to have a properly funded long term project, I can't wait to see how the voting and everything will workout... lol I haven't looked into to ETH very much cause of the big ICO Ha they got their money so who knows if they'll do something real with it or just enjoy the money (I do trade it when the trading is good tho) but I have been a member of CCC for well over a year now and am confident that these guys want to create something they'll be proud of in 5 + years as it's still growing and expanding.

this is going to be a good ride  

[zombie007]

Is there any problem with diff adjustment?
Hashrate falling, diff not.