[ANN] Expanse (EXP) - 1st Stable fork of Ethereum (New Algo + PirlGuard)

[Hazcat]

Question as i dont fully understand diff changes

Why is diff still high when the net hash has significantly dropped (50GH at some points to now 7.5gh)?  I thought it would be lower than it currently is

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[CryptoClub]

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[defaced]

Question as i dont fully understand diff changes

Why is diff still high when the net hash has significantly dropped (50GH at some points to now 7.5gh)?  I thought it would be lower than it currently is

Its just the way eth retargets.. sorta slow, we could probably look into speeding it up though.

[1echo]

i dont like how u hidden premine between al this no ico, fair launch stuff

[Zywiec]

Question as i dont fully understand diff changes

Why is diff still high when the net hash has significantly dropped (50GH at some points to now 7.5gh)?  I thought it would be lower than it currently is

Its just the way eth retargets.. sorta slow, we could probably look into speeding it up though.

It looks like  DigiShield from DigiByte(DGB)coin. It works similar way;  higlhy tractable to network hashrate. Affected some time later even it should stop yet.

The main problem might happen when some big user(s) may join and rejoin in small amount in time (for example multpool) -> then this procees will  may constantly be repeated.

Speeds it up (if possible) should be great advantage. Hopefully it will work as Dev mentioned.

[Hazcat]

Question as i dont fully understand diff changes

Why is diff still high when the net hash has significantly dropped (50GH at some points to now 7.5gh)?  I thought it would be lower than it currently is

Its just the way eth retargets.. sorta slow, we could probably look into speeding it up though.

I think that's a good idea as it gives small miners a little better chance to mine when the diff drops

[NRPatten]

i dont like how u hidden premine between al this no ico, fair launch stuff

Nothing is hidden the premine address's are in the "Official Genesis" json

Code:

{
    "nonce": "0x214652414e4b4f21",
    "timestamp": "0x0",
    "parentHash": "0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000",
    "extraData": "0x4672616e6b6f497346726565646f6d",
    "gasLimit": "0x1388",
    "difficulty": "0x40000000",
    "mixhash": "0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000",
    "coinbase": "0x93decab0cd745598860f782ac1e8f046cb99e898",
    "alloc": {
        "0xbb94f0ceb32257275b2a7a9c094c13e469b4563e": { "balance": "10000000000000000000000000" },
        "0x15656715068ab0dbdf0ab00748a8a19e40f28192": { "balance": "1000000000000000000000000"},
    "0xc075fa11f85bda3aaba67106226aaf086ac16f4e": { "balance": "100000000000000000000000"},
    "0x93decab0cd745598860f782ac1e8f046cb99e898": { "balance": "10000000000000000000000"}
    }
}

[CryptoClub]

i dont like how u hidden premine between al this no ico, fair launch stuff

Nothing is hidden the premine address's are in the "Official Genesis" json

Code:

{
    "nonce": "0x214652414e4b4f21",
    "timestamp": "0x0",
    "parentHash": "0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000",
    "extraData": "0x4672616e6b6f497346726565646f6d",
    "gasLimit": "0x1388",
    "difficulty": "0x40000000",
    "mixhash": "0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000",
    "coinbase": "0x93decab0cd745598860f782ac1e8f046cb99e898",
    "alloc": {
        "0xbb94f0ceb32257275b2a7a9c094c13e469b4563e": { "balance": "10000000000000000000000000" },
        "0x15656715068ab0dbdf0ab00748a8a19e40f28192": { "balance": "1000000000000000000000000"},
    "0xc075fa11f85bda3aaba67106226aaf086ac16f4e": { "balance": "100000000000000000000000"},
    "0x93decab0cd745598860f782ac1e8f046cb99e898": { "balance": "10000000000000000000000"}
    }
}

Exactly, and this was talked about since the pre announcement. Thanks for pointing this out.

[antho281]

Hi all!

Since the last update of the go-expanse's git, I'm getting this error when I'm trying to mine to my wallet..
Is there any existent solution?

Code:

miner  00:12:20|ethminer  Getting work package...
  ✘  00:12:20|ethminer  Failed to submit hashrate.
  ✘  00:12:20|ethminer  Dynamic exception type: jsonrpc::JsonRpcException
std::exception::what: Exception -32601 : METHOD_NOT_FOUND: The method being requested is not available on this server: eth_submitHashrate method not implemented

Thanks a lot!

[altcoinex]

Hi all!

Since the last update of the go-expanse's git, I'm getting this error when I'm trying to mine to my wallet..
Is there any existent solution?

Code:

miner  00:12:20|ethminer  Getting work package...
  ✘  00:12:20|ethminer  Failed to submit hashrate.
  ✘  00:12:20|ethminer  Dynamic exception type: jsonrpc::JsonRpcException
std::exception::what: Exception -32601 : METHOD_NOT_FOUND: The method being requested is not available on this server: eth_submitHashrate method not implemented

Thanks a lot!

Oops, I think we might have updated one of our included libraries to a newer version that didn't match the rest of the repo. Franko will resolve this tomorrow. Thank you for your patience, in the mean time if it is urgent you should be able to resolve it by downloading an older version of our web3 library or a previous version of go-expanse.

[leftR]

when the new wallet out , in active? 
upcoming other news from roadmap?

[OzDigger]

Question as i dont fully understand diff changes

Why is diff still high when the net hash has significantly dropped (50GH at some points to now 7.5gh)?  I thought it would be lower than it currently is

Its just the way eth retargets.. sorta slow, we could probably look into speeding it up though.

Yes please...... as miners change when the diff is too high..

[mez]

when the new wallet out , in active? 
upcoming other news from roadmap?

never

[Jonesd]

Being on block 22,581, does that mean there currently are 180,648 exp available of the 20 million to be mined? Does that mean the POW phase will last for about 4,5 to 5 years?

[Hazcat]

when the new wallet out , in active?  
upcoming other news from roadmap?

I'd like to know this too. A roadmap would be nice and at least an example of something that this coin can be used for in 'life' other than throwing electricity to power companies to mine 'coins' with a diff system that is broken to achieve.....what?

What's in it for the miner or trader other than dumping high buying low trying to make a profit....which lets be honest can be done with any coin.

We all know BTC can and is used in the physical world to purchase physical items / things (mainly drug and underworld related yes but still it has its value to that environment): what does expanse provide?

The main theme I see on this thread is people harping on about a DAO arguing about what it is and isn't, premine blah blah blah but not much about what this coin is to provide other than 'we have a hell of a lot of coins to provide / pay 3rd party people to help develop stuff for us' - ummmmm like what? What's in the pipeline, what is planned for next week, next month, next year?

I know crypto is crypto 90% of it is scams but there are some legit people - I'd really like to believe this is a legit one but I'm just not seeing the information needed provided, innovation, progression etc

This isn't the only coin I wonder about so don't think it's just this coin but think about it

BTC - can be used
GMC - has or is at least trying for a real purpose
Vnl - I don't know
Tips, dgb, dgc blah blah blah - is expanse & for that matter shift and eth just going to be the same old mine dump mine dump etc

How about instead of saying you can join our slack (which I know James said is stupidly expensive to upgrade due to the number of posts or people so presuming you didn't do that - smart if you didn't) you update here and give your 'customers' some confidence in this coin?

As I said (not here but in CCC, I respect James and Franko has assisted me in a personal project very friendly so I want this to work but I just don't know what this coin actually stands for so with the diff system broken and no idea of what I'm to support I'm no longer mining.

Thanks and sorry and I hope this does grow into something huge

[Abiky]

How do yall feel about this gui wallet?

Looks like a very eye catching interface. This is so cool. When is it going to be released? (I mean if it's not already) This would make my life much easier than having to type in commands to send or receive expanse 

Tomorrow or the following day most likely, I am just trying to ensure it works on all OS's and properly test everything.

That's great news. I will be anxiously waiting for its release. By the way, an Android/iOS wallet would be a great idea as well. 

[defaced]

Hi all!

Since the last update of the go-expanse's git, I'm getting this error when I'm trying to mine to my wallet..
Is there any existent solution?

Code:

miner  00:12:20|ethminer  Getting work package...
  ✘  00:12:20|ethminer  Failed to submit hashrate.
  ✘  00:12:20|ethminer  Dynamic exception type: jsonrpc::JsonRpcException
std::exception::what: Exception -32601 : METHOD_NOT_FOUND: The method being requested is not available on this server: eth_submitHashrate method not implemented

Thanks a lot!

looks like you are using the develop branch

[CryptoClub]

when the new wallet out , in active?  
upcoming other news from roadmap?

I'd like to know this too. A roadmap would be nice and at least an example of something that this coin can be used for in 'life' other than throwing electricity to power companies to mine 'coins' with a diff system that is broken to achieve.....what?

What's in it for the miner or trader other than dumping high buying low trying to make a profit....which lets be honest can be done with any coin.

We all know BTC can and is used in the physical world to purchase physical items / things (mainly drug and underworld related yes but still it has its value to that environment): what does expanse provide?

The main theme I see on this thread is people harping on about a DAO arguing about what it is and isn't, premine blah blah blah but not much about what this coin is to provide other than 'we have a hell of a lot of coins to provide / pay 3rd party people to help develop stuff for us' - ummmmm like what? What's in the pipeline, what is planned for next week, next month, next year?

I know crypto is crypto 90% of it is scams but there are some legit people - I'd really like to believe this is a legit one but I'm just not seeing the information needed provided, innovation, progression etc

This isn't the only coin I wonder about so don't think it's just this coin but think about it

BTC - can be used
GMC - has or is at least trying for a real purpose
Vnl - I don't know
Tips, dgb, dgc blah blah blah - is expanse & for that matter shift and eth just going to be the same old mine dump mine dump etc

How about instead of saying you can join our slack (which I know James said is stupidly expensive to upgrade due to the number of posts or people so presuming you didn't do that - smart if you didn't) you update here and give your 'customers' some confidence in this coin?

As I said (not here but in CCC, I respect James and Franko has assisted me in a personal project very friendly so I want this to work but I just don't know what this coin actually stands for so with the diff system broken and no idea of what I'm to support I'm no longer mining.

Thanks and sorry and I hope this does grow into something huge

Sure thing, no problem.

Expanse is a bit unique. Normally there is just a team and they can set some goals and people can try to trade with those in mind. With Expanse the "roadmap" really begins after the Decentralized Autonomous Organization has been formed. This isn't something that can be rushed however, as it requires finding the right candidates for the Advisory Board. This is quite different, and by having a political system controlled by smart contracts and composed of the right key people, there is a great amount of potential to set an example and start something new with the Expanse DAO.

In the short run however, custom skinned gui wallets, web wallet, website are the immediate goals. Clearly various POS and lots of different changes down the road are also being considered, but this will only be after the DAO has formed and the community has voted on it. Dan has been working on the DAO concept for a couple years, so this also isn't something just quickly put together. It will take some time to get all this done, but we are going to do this right, and build something that will last and potentially make some kind of difference.

[Abiky]

when the new wallet out , in active?  
upcoming other news from roadmap?

I'd like to know this too. A roadmap would be nice and at least an example of something that this coin can be used for in 'life' other than throwing electricity to power companies to mine 'coins' with a diff system that is broken to achieve.....what?

What's in it for the miner or trader other than dumping high buying low trying to make a profit....which lets be honest can be done with any coin.

We all know BTC can and is used in the physical world to purchase physical items / things (mainly drug and underworld related yes but still it has its value to that environment): what does expanse provide?

The main theme I see on this thread is people harping on about a DAO arguing about what it is and isn't, premine blah blah blah but not much about what this coin is to provide other than 'we have a hell of a lot of coins to provide / pay 3rd party people to help develop stuff for us' - ummmmm like what? What's in the pipeline, what is planned for next week, next month, next year?

I know crypto is crypto 90% of it is scams but there are some legit people - I'd really like to believe this is a legit one but I'm just not seeing the information needed provided, innovation, progression etc

This isn't the only coin I wonder about so don't think it's just this coin but think about it

BTC - can be used
GMC - has or is at least trying for a real purpose
Vnl - I don't know
Tips, dgb, dgc blah blah blah - is expanse & for that matter shift and eth just going to be the same old mine dump mine dump etc

How about instead of saying you can join our slack (which I know James said is stupidly expensive to upgrade due to the number of posts or people so presuming you didn't do that - smart if you didn't) you update here and give your 'customers' some confidence in this coin?

As I said (not here but in CCC, I respect James and Franko has assisted me in a personal project very friendly so I want this to work but I just don't know what this coin actually stands for so with the diff system broken and no idea of what I'm to support I'm no longer mining.

Thanks and sorry and I hope this does grow into something huge

Sure thing, no problem.

Expanse is a bit unique. Normally there is just a team and they can set some goals and people can try to trade with those in mind. With Expanse the "roadmap" really begins after the Decentralized Autonomous Organization has been formed. This isn't something that can be rushed however, as it requires finding the right candidates for the Advisory Board. This is quite different, and by having a political system controlled by smart contracts and composed of the right key people, there is a great amount of potential to set an example and start something new with the Expanse DAO.

In the short run however, custom skinned gui wallets, web wallet, website are the immediate goals. Clearly various POS and lots of different changes down the road are also being considered, but this will only be after the DAO has formed and the community has voted on it. Dan has been working on the DAO concept for a couple years, so this also isn't something just quickly put together. It will take some time to get all this done, but we are going to do this right, and build something that will last and potentially make some kind of difference.

Well said. Expanse will certainly make a difference among other alt coins. It has a solid community and good development compared to Ethereum (which they are slow) In the meantime, if Expanse releases the GUI wallet it will be one step ahead from Ethereum (which has no GUI wallet) I'll be watching Expanse as it has a bright future ahead of it. 

[antho281]

Hi all!

Since the last update of the go-expanse's git, I'm getting this error when I'm trying to mine to my wallet..
Is there any existent solution?

Code:

miner  00:12:20|ethminer  Getting work package...
  ✘  00:12:20|ethminer  Failed to submit hashrate.
  ✘  00:12:20|ethminer  Dynamic exception type: jsonrpc::JsonRpcException
std::exception::what: Exception -32601 : METHOD_NOT_FOUND: The method being requested is not available on this server: eth_submitHashrate method not implemented

Thanks a lot!

looks like you are using the develop branch

That's exact
But I don't know why I got it when I cloned the git

EDIT: Got it, the OP refer to Develop!