IOTA

[rtrtcrypto]

I thought I was in the speculation thread  I'm tired.

People  I think that's relatively NAIVE for us to speculate about the price evolution ...
In addition there is another thread for speculation, if we want to fantasize about the price. 

Those who can, if we try to do something for IOTA, like the community in another successful project, the reward will come easy from himself.

As far as I know iotatoken has asked NOT to discuss in this thread about price. 

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[runall]

Interesting, you won't take my bet and think IOTA will crash... 
There won't be a second ICO, let the markets decide when we launch - I won't be selling my chunk for a good while, if others follow my lead, this thing will be going for pretty huge prices (much higher than now).
Lastly, the tech has been (and is being) tested constantly - I'm excited to see it perform in the real world sometime in the near future.

I too. I love IOTA. HODL  at least 2 years.
Then we'll see 

[twistelaar]

Interesting, you won't take my bet and think IOTA will crash... 
There won't be a second ICO, let the markets decide when we launch - I won't be selling my chunk for a good while, if others follow my lead, this thing will be going for pretty huge prices (much higher than now).
Lastly, the tech has been (and is being) tested constantly - I'm excited to see it perform in the real world sometime in the near future.

I too. I love IOTA. HODL  at least 2 years.
Then we'll see 

Well I think a lot of people are planning to hold and that will create also the huge succes of this coin. 

[runall]

Better initial distribution from 300 to 500 people? What about the other 7 billion?

You're right! There will be always unhappy peoples. ALWAYS. Those who are not born yet, those will talk too that they do not want to miss anything.

[cryptohunter]

Better initial distribution from 300 to 500 people? What about the other 7 billion? I want to see this tech leave this god forsaken forum and go out into the real world - like the MICROSOFT deal. Enough of trying to cater to 200 pump and dumpers, get us out of here ASAP.
No worries about the bet.

Interesting, you won't take my bet and think IOTA will crash... 
There won't be a second ICO, let the markets decide when we launch - I won't be selling my chunk for a good while, if others follow my lead, this thing will be going for pretty huge prices (much higher than now).
Lastly, the tech has been (and is being) tested constantly - I'm excited to see it perform in the real world sometime in the near future.

Want to take a friendly (2.5 BTC bet) that LISK will be behind IOTA on JUNE 1, 2016 (coinmarketcap)?

We for sure won't start at 40mio, but 10 sounds reasonable.

1M seems more sensible. Put it on a few exchanges for a week so we can get a fair market price. No point a handful of people sitting around in here telling each other how much their tokens went up.

1. let's see it working and in action..
2. let's see if it is worth 2x ICO price let alone 50X

etherium is only 30X ico after months and months, and sat on exchange for 3x  most of that period.

This is perhaps mid pump and could go back to 5x 10x quite easily.


Seems like an insta ICO with a few people pumping this who don't even have a clue how it works or if can work.

Let's see if anonymints right about the consensus issue
Let's await to see if altcoinUK is right regarding the mega new processor.

Lot's of hurdles here between Insta Ico and 10M market cap.

Even with NXT you could buy the coins at 5x ICO for a long period after. People asking 30x now is completely crazy after such a stealth ICO.

CMC is probably one of the most misleading sources on the net. This is as easily gamed as an ICO.

LISK vs IOTA is not my issue.

Although in terms of how to advertise and run and ICO LISK is giving far far more opportunity for investment and better distribution. For those of the old NXT came not to ENSURE a great initial distribution is a very large mistake.

A poll on the board of those who invested in LISK vs those who invested or even heard about the IOTA ico (with proof of investment to make sure  no fake polls) you would see LISK is way probably 10X more known or more than IOTA was. This is like NXT2 .


This so far has not started well

The current IOTA price is around 30X ICO. This alone tells me there was not enough done to distribute at ICO else this demand would not so hugely outstrip supply. Put it on exchanges and let's see what happens.

If it was 3-5X ICO then this would be far more natural.

In your history of posting, I can see that you want to buy IOTA, I guess you couldnt find a buyer and know are heavily complaining here about how unfair life is for you.

It's one of the most innovation tech featured coin who already made a deal with one of the biggest company's in the world.

It's not antother shitcoin ico.

No I'm complaining about how unfair it is to 90% of the board that didn't get opportunity to invest or buy for a reasonable amount.

Again the "innovative technology" is not the question here.  Although yes it is totally untested at this point.

I suggest a 2nd ICO for all those on the board that want to buy in at reasonable rates and also provide more development funds for IOTA.

Insta ICO is no good long term.

Perhaps run a Poll on the main board. You will see I think a lot of the bct members will be in favour.

Your bet is not relevant to my post though. Also how can one bet on things that can be so manipulated.
There could well be a 2nd ICO if enough of the board thought it was a great idea. Why would you not want a second IPO? You don't wish to see better initial distribution?

This is an interesting symptom that I notice within all communities on this board where upon there was very poor initial distribution (within the crypto community - i.e bct)

1. Devs - knowing the rest of the crypto community don't want to knowingly be charged 30x what a select few 2-300 (if it was even that many single investors it could be less for all you know) and that there is now a bad taste seek new investors less aware of the start.

2. Investors- knowing their fellow crypto enthusiasts are suspect of the initial distribution seek refuge away from the heat and state they will try to encourage distribution to the other 7 billion who they wish could have got tokens at the IPO.

If you'd like the other 7 billion to have fair opportunity then why not make a start with the other 10's of 1000's of other BCT members?

Why not do as LISK is doing... sig campaings, facebook campaigns twitter campaigns. I never saw any of these for IOTA or NXT actually.

I'm not saying LISK is better at all in terms of tech. I am simply saying it made a large effort to get it's ICO known and fair chance for everybody on the forum to get opportunity and choice. Same as etherium did. Etherium's  POW gives even further chance to

I think the start at this point could forever haunt the project as it has for DASH and for NXT. They at one point could have taken down LTC if their initial distribution had not forever been called into question.

I would wonder why it is these inflated prices can be asked? why did these people not buy in the ICO? nothing has changed ? the MS thing is fine same for emericoin but not as important as all that. The ICO was not made public enough. I see people here who live on this board saying in threads
" not sure how i missed it".  That's not good at all... at all.

A second ICO would be far more beneficial for all in the long term.

[cryptohunter]

Better initial distribution from 300 to 500 people? What about the other 7 billion?

You're right! There will be always unhappy peoples. ALWAYS. Those who are not born yet, those will talk too that they do not want to miss anything.

What reason can you give for being against a 2nd ICO?
You don't want extra funding for IOTA?

I'm very interested?

[rtrtcrypto]

IOTA is for machine to machine payments/micropayments for IoT, this project will live or die in relation to how quickly we can leave BTT and forums and enter into agreements with real companies and use cases. Having a bunch of pump and dumpers rambling on BTT won't help this project AT ALL. If the team has enough money to proceed, then they should just move on along their roadmap. "Distribution" here is just not that relevant IMO. Cash on hand and burn rate are.

[fuze0000]

I'm new to iota.  What would be the most efficient way to purchase iota?

[runall]

This is an interesting symptom that I notice within all communities on this board where upon there was very poor initial distribution (within the crypto community - i.e bct)

This is an interesting symptom: latecomers cry that they are late, that did not manage to get all the closing doors of this world.

Where were you while the month of distribution?

No need to compare projects within a month there will be the same as you, to be crying in Lisk, that they were too late and it is bad and wrong, that this is so. For such need not be only second ICO, but third, fourth, fifth ICO and till indefinitely.

[runall]

I'm new to iota.  What would be the most efficient way to purchase iota?

As far as I know there are currently following: buy at Nxt Asset Exchange, buy through escrow from other users. In some time IOTA get to the exchange.

[cryptohunter]

This is an interesting symptom that I notice within all communities on this board where upon there was very poor initial distribution (within the crypto community - i.e bct)

This is an interesting symptom: latecomers cry that they are late, that did not manage to get all the closing doors of this world.

Where were you while the month of distribution?

No need to compare projects within a month there will be the same as you, to be crying in Lisk, that they were too late and it is bad and wrong, that this is so. For such need not be only second ICO, but third, fourth, fifth ICO and till indefinitely.

But you've not answered why you don't want a second ICO?
Do you not want more funds for your project? such a small ICO ?
You could have an ICO that lasted for 1000yrs but if nobody knew about it then you will not have many invest regardless of your project.

LISK - has made far greater effort to advertise their ICO ...can you go a page on this board without seeing the huge LISK sigs everywhere?
Facebook rewards, twitter rewards. I'm not here to compare to LISK but since you want to discuss it I shall not stand in your path.

If I was coming from NXT i would have made certain my next ICO did not suffer the same fate.

Just think the iota community should think it over. If there was a poll that demonstrated such demand surely cgb and iota will reconsider? It's not even launched yet. You could lock in 100% profits by making the next IOTA 2x the price? how about that. Surely 100% profits is enough guaranteed?
Then so many more people rather than a handful in this community and no questioning of distribution and more funds for the project? seems no reason not to does there?

Why not all give it some time to sink in then think it over. I have to go now but you guys seem great so will certainly be back to discuss again in the near future. I only think a small minority would dislike the idea. Those that just want to try and dump out at 30x ico and not see such a promising project reach full potential without a black mark.

[runall]

But you've not answered why you don't want a second ICO?

Do you really think that *I* can answer that your question?

Ask the developers, they work 25 hours per day.
CEO from this *registered* company has another big plans. In the first place: the negotiations with the companies that are associated with the IoT, the active use of IOTA in real segment of the economy and then there are plans to link the use of IOTA with Hardware-based Jinn. And you think because of your delay and the desire to buy IOTA as cheap as possible, CEO and devs will change all their plans? Are you seriously?

[twistelaar]

I'm new to iota.  What would be the most efficient way to purchase iota?

On the NXT asset you can buy IOTA. Somebody here knows the link?

[msin]

I've never heard of Lisk, neither have billions of other people, so should they hold another ICO?  IOTA raised over 1.3k BTC and the ICO was pretty well advertised among users, that's pretty good for any crowd funded project. Anyway, another ICO is not happening so you're wasting your breath.

[runall]

I'm new to iota.  What would be the most efficient way to purchase iota?

On the NXT asset you can buy IOTA. Somebody here knows the link?

I think, this is the latest initiative?
https://nxtforum.org/asset-exchange-general/bbiota-(yet-another-iota-gateway-asset)/?all

[runall]

I've never heard of Lisk, neither have billions of other people, so should they hold another ICO?  IOTA raised over 1.3k BTC and the ICO was pretty well advertised among users, that's pretty good for any crowd funded project. Anyway, another ICO is not happening so you're wasting your breath.

It is exactly like that. And I think it would be more than 350 people. Now more anyway.

[Tobo]

I've never heard of Lisk, neither have billions of other people, so should they hold another ICO?  IOTA raised over 1.3k BTC and the ICO was pretty well advertised among users, that's pretty good for any crowd funded project. Anyway, another ICO is not happening so you're wasting your breath.

I don't mind Ethereum and Augur redo their ICO or pre sales. Can someone pursue them to redo theirs? I will appreciate it.

[cryptohunter]

I've never heard of Lisk, neither have billions of other people, so should they hold another ICO?  IOTA raised over 1.3k BTC and the ICO was pretty well advertised among users, that's pretty good for any crowd funded project. Anyway, another ICO is not happening so you're wasting your breath.

Really? and yet it is on nearly every page of this thread in bold upon which you have been posting. I see it there in the sigs of people you're replying to? and on nearly every page here.

Are you sure you never heard of it before?

I don't think you're 100% able to say for sure there won't be a 2nd ICO. It hasn't really been discussed on the  main forum yet. You would be more than shocked what a good discussion can bring. Do you know that they nearly did a huge air drop for darkcoin once because I and then a few others who noticed said it would be a great idea.

If you believe something is a good idea and then you convince others it's a great idea too.... You can make it happen.

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What is price of ICO?

[chesthing]

Why is it taking so long to hit an exch?