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April 12, 2022, 01:15:51 PM
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Who will advance in the play in tournament?

Cavaliers vs Nets

Clippers vs TWolves

Hornets vs Hawks

Spurs vs Pelicans
I'll go with Nets against Cavaliers. I already picked them the first time I saw the match-up but with Allen not playing in the play-in because of a thumb injury, that increases the odds of Nets winning and staying at 7th spot.
I think I'll go with Clippers against the Wolves. I think the Clippers deserves a playoff spot more than the Wolves.
Hornets vs. Hawks? I'll go with Hornets with this even though Hayward will not play.
Spurs Vs. Pelicans? Spurs I think. All of this are just my prediction though Smiley.

Great decision by the Lakers Management.
Now, Looking forward to the players that will be traded in preparation for the improvement by next season.

Who do you think will be TRADED?
Base on this article, both Westbrook and the team agreed to part ways after the season. The only problem is will there be any team that will have interest in getting him after how he played this season. If none then I think he will stay with the Lakers alongside Lebron Cheesy.
https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/2022/04/10/would-russell-westbrook-accept-a-buyout-of-his-contract/

Waiving their old players will be their first step in rebuilding the team. The team had too much old players that it affected them both offensively and defensively. With regards to Lebron, Davis and Westbrook, maybe Lebron and AD will stay and Westbrook will be traded if there will be some team that will be interested in him. My prediction only though Cheesy.

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April 12, 2022, 01:29:36 PM
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Who will advance in the play in tournament?

Cavaliers vs Nets

Clippers vs TWolves

Hornets vs Hawks

Spurs vs Pelicans
I'll go with Nets against Cavaliers. I already picked them the first time I saw the match-up but with Allen not playing in the play-in because of a thumb injury, that increases the odds of Nets winning and staying at 7th spot.
I think I'll go with Clippers against the Wolves. I think the Clippers deserves a playoff spot more than the Wolves.
Hornets vs. Hawks? I'll go with Hornets with this even though Hayward will not play.
Spurs Vs. Pelicans? Spurs I think. All of this are just my prediction though Smiley.

Great decision by the Lakers Management.
Now, Looking forward to the players that will be traded in preparation for the improvement by next season.

Who do you think will be TRADED?
Base on this article, both Westbrook and the team agreed to part ways after the season. The only problem is will there be any team that will have interest in getting him after how he played this season. If none then I think he will stay with the Lakers alongside Lebron Cheesy.
https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/2022/04/10/would-russell-westbrook-accept-a-buyout-of-his-contract/

Waiving their old players will be their first step in rebuilding the team. The team had too much old players that it affected them both offensively and defensively. With regards to Lebron, Davis and Westbrook, maybe Lebron and AD will stay and Westbrook will be traded if there will be some team that will be interested in him. My prediction only though Cheesy.

Yeah I just read this and of course found it quite interesting..

With Frank Vogel removed as coach of the Los Angeles Lakers earlier in the day, Lakers point guard Russell Westbrook opened up about the disconnect that existed between the two of them in his first season in L.A.

"I think it's unfortunate, to be honest, because I've never had an issue with any of my coaches before," Westbrook said on Monday after his exit interview with the Lakers' front office. "I'm not sure what his issue was with me or I'm not sure why, but I can't really give you an answer to why we really never connected."

"When I first got here, the ability to be able to do what I'm able to do for a team and an organization wasn't given a fair chance," he said.

"The famous 'source' stories that came out about myself, whether it be between me and the staff, me and Frank, me and the fans, there's just so many made-up stories that are not true," Westbrook said. "It's just always having to fight against that constantly. It's just not [being] given a fair chance. It's like, 'OK, now I got to fight against this made-up story. Now I got to fight against this one. Now I go to fight against this one. Now I got to fight against this one.'"

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33721269/los-angeles-lakers-russell-westbrook-opens-disconnect-frank-vogel-disappointing-season

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April 12, 2022, 04:08:38 PM
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The sad part is he was not informed early until it was leaked to ESPN. Ouch! Surprises. Lakers management does love that.  Grin
Now the roster, we might be surprised too in the next days to come or before the season starts again. I bet they are going to overhaul that roster again and seek players that are younger. Who knows, they might be done with making a veteran lineup again.
Where would Howard go that will make him more productive and be back with 20+ minutes per game? I wish a team signs him up. It's too cheap for just $2.6M for an agile 37 years old.
He will be a great asset for this era being dominated by 3 giant players.

Well! that's just how it is if the management doesn't like the result of your hard work and you failed to give them the championship they wanted to further expand their profits from the Lakers merchandise and other stuff. The question is, who will gonna replace Frank after this season? I'm sure it will be a huge challenge for whoever it will be because they will gonna overhaul the entire roosters and they gonna trade Westbrook

According to the rumors Nick Nurse (you can find a lot of articles in Google) is the frontrunner for the next Lakers head coach. He could be a good coach for the Lakers with his experience in the Finals against a top caliber team like the 2019 GSW.
There rumors as well that Westbrook might be traded to Indiana for Buddy Hield and  Malcom Brogdon. That seems a pretty fair trade though.
The Lakers also have cleared Loul Deng's contract and they might be looking to rebuild another good roster. Well, I hope they'll resort to a younger talents this time rather signing a veteran.

Yeah, that was the rumor.
https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2022/4/11/23020511/lakers-reportedly-targeting-nick-nurse-juwan-howard-head-coach-rumors-candidate-frank-vogel

He was once a champion, lead the Raptors to its first championship, so for sure he has the talent to manage the talented team like the Lakers.
Hopefully Lebron will listen and will not overpower the coach as that is the nightmare of every coach that has worked with him.


For that I think Lebron should the one needed to trade since as I notice about him he is so self centered person and that affect their team chemistry because he always want to be always a alpha on their team. Feel pity for what happen to lakers this season and its seems there's a deep problem with them since there rooster is supposed to be good and full of talent but it turns shitty when season runs. Lets just see if he will listen to their teams will and also there is a rumor that they want to get Spoelstra  because he know how he can handle lebron but I doubt heat will let their champion coach go.

I don't think that the Lakers have the balls to trade LeBron James, I mean they are already happy that LeBron belongs to their team and they have no choice but to wait until LeBron force himself with a trade so until then the Lakers are tied with him wether they want it or not. Yes, I also noticed that too that coaches cannot control LeBron's decision but I think he have some right because he managed to bring a championship for the team but yes I agree that he should really need to learn to listen because maybe the this new coach has something that could benefit the whole team.

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April 12, 2022, 04:09:03 PM
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The sad part is he was not informed early until it was leaked to ESPN. Ouch! Surprises. Lakers management does love that.  Grin
Now the roster, we might be surprised too in the next days to come or before the season starts again. I bet they are going to overhaul that roster again and seek players that are younger. Who knows, they might be done with making a veteran lineup again.
Where would Howard go that will make him more productive and be back with 20+ minutes per game? I wish a team signs him up. It's too cheap for just $2.6M for an agile 37 years old.
He will be a great asset for this era being dominated by 3 giant players.

Well! that's just how it is if the management doesn't like the result of your hard work and you failed to give them the championship they wanted to further expand their profits from the Lakers merchandise and other stuff. The question is, who will gonna replace Frank after this season? I'm sure it will be a huge challenge for whoever it will be because they will gonna overhaul the entire roosters and they gonna trade Westbrook
The fact that they already fired Frank Vogel then I assume that they are already eyeing someone else to do the vacant job. The Lakers management have those money to hire coaches again but the question is, does this new future head coach can give them the goal they want? We'll see about that soon. It's just sad for me to think that after Frank Vogel gave them a championship title last 2020, he will be just fired just like that without getting informed before it was leaked.

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The fact that they already fired Frank Vogel then I assume that they are already eyeing someone else to do the vacant job. The Lakers management have those money to hire coaches again but the question is, does this new future head coach can give them the goal they want? We'll see about that soon. It's just sad for me to think that after Frank Vogel gave them a championship title last 2020, he will be just fired just like that without getting informed before it was leaked.

After this season, maybe even coach Vogel did not get that early notice. I'm thinking that he's also feeling it that he won't get another

shot for this team. Like you, it's sad though because he brings a title from this team and by respect, he should be informed about the plan first

instead of knowing it by means of leaking in the news. As a title coach, he deserves better treatment and not this kind of firing him and vacant the

job. Best of luck to him. If not in the NBA, there is always an open opportunity for sure.
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April 12, 2022, 04:46:53 PM
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The sad part is he was not informed early until it was leaked to ESPN. Ouch! Surprises. Lakers management does love that.  Grin
Now the roster, we might be surprised too in the next days to come or before the season starts again. I bet they are going to overhaul that roster again and seek players that are younger. Who knows, they might be done with making a veteran lineup again.
Where would Howard go that will make him more productive and be back with 20+ minutes per game? I wish a team signs him up. It's too cheap for just $2.6M for an agile 37 years old.
He will be a great asset for this era being dominated by 3 giant players.

Well! that's just how it is if the management doesn't like the result of your hard work and you failed to give them the championship they wanted to further expand their profits from the Lakers merchandise and other stuff. The question is, who will gonna replace Frank after this season? I'm sure it will be a huge challenge for whoever it will be because they will gonna overhaul the entire roosters and they gonna trade Westbrook
The fact that they already fired Frank Vogel then I assume that they are already eyeing someone else to do the vacant job. The Lakers management have those money to hire coaches again but the question is, does this new future head coach can give them the goal they want? We'll see about that soon. It's just sad for me to think that after Frank Vogel gave them a championship title last 2020, he will be just fired just like that without getting informed before it was leaked.

They don't need a coach, LeBron is there to take the coaching spot 😂, kidding aside, Vogel definitely was inconsistent and made some bad decisions this season, I can't exactly point it out but it was really bad, and also, Russ will definitely be on another team for sure, not gonna lie he performed well and racked up the assists department but man he is really throwing bricks.
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April 12, 2022, 08:46:55 PM
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I do not know who could replace Vogel but I know that it wouldn't matter as long as this is their roster. I am supportive of getting veterans, the problem wasn't the fact that they had older people, the problem is that AD was constantly injured and Westbrook played horribly all season. If they could trade westbrook, that would be insane thing to see but I doubt they would be even capable of getting anyone for him, the only reasonable idea right now is Wall, and that is not going to improve them at all.

I think they just need to realize that they are screwed for the upcoming seasons and just focus on rebuilding from here on out, they can't build a team that could win anything with what they have.
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April 12, 2022, 09:20:36 PM
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The only problem is will there be any team that will have interest in getting him after how he played this season.
I've been critical of him but he's done okay if you based it on individual performance. 18.5 points and 7.4 boards and 7.1 assists per game isn't that bad. The real problem is that this may not be enough to justify his $40 million salary. Not to mention he's also aging.

He has the option to stay or become an unrestricted free agent for 2022-2023 season. I think he'll choose the latter with how things are going.

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April 12, 2022, 10:23:10 PM
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I do not know who could replace Vogel but I know that it wouldn't matter as long as this is their roster. I am supportive of getting veterans, the problem wasn't the fact that they had older people, the problem is that AD was constantly injured and Westbrook played horribly all season. If they could trade westbrook, that would be insane thing to see but I doubt they would be even capable of getting anyone for him, the only reasonable idea right now is Wall, and that is not going to improve them at all.

I think they just need to realize that they are screwed for the upcoming seasons and just focus on rebuilding from here on out, they can't build a team that could win anything with what they have.

Agree, the biggest problem with this team was not the coach. First of all, old players with high salaries but useless should leave this team. We've all seen how unsuccessful they can be with a roster that looks this good.
They need young and talented players for this team to become a good team Smiley

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April 12, 2022, 11:26:27 PM
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I do not know who could replace Vogel but I know that it wouldn't matter as long as this is their roster. I am supportive of getting veterans, the problem wasn't the fact that they had older people, the problem is that AD was constantly injured and Westbrook played horribly all season. If they could trade westbrook, that would be insane thing to see but I doubt they would be even capable of getting anyone for him, the only reasonable idea right now is Wall, and that is not going to improve them at all.

I think they just need to realize that they are screwed for the upcoming seasons and just focus on rebuilding from here on out, they can't build a team that could win anything with what they have.

For sure they will find someone to replace Vogel and overhaul the coaching system in Lakers.

But I don't like the idea of John Wall trade as well, again based on their previous goal, getting experience players is not a good thing, formula is not working.

If they will have to build around James and Davis, get a young team, or just players that are not overrated.

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April 12, 2022, 11:51:57 PM
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I do not know who could replace Vogel but I know that it wouldn't matter as long as this is their roster. I am supportive of getting veterans, the problem wasn't the fact that they had older people, the problem is that AD was constantly injured and Westbrook played horribly all season. If they could trade westbrook, that would be insane thing to see but I doubt they would be even capable of getting anyone for him, the only reasonable idea right now is Wall, and that is not going to improve them at all.

I think they just need to realize that they are screwed for the upcoming seasons and just focus on rebuilding from here on out, they can't build a team that could win anything with what they have.

For sure they will find someone to replace Vogel and overhaul the coaching system in Lakers.

But I don't like the idea of John Wall trade as well, again based on their previous goal, getting experience players is not a good thing, formula is not working.

If they will have to build around James and Davis, get a young team, or just players that are not overrated.

John Wall before all the injuries about 6-7 years ago, absolutely, but agreed at this point he’s much older and worn down and always hurt. He did however drop a near career high in averaged point in 2020-2021 with 20.6pts, that’s pretty solid. But, no telling if you’ll get that out of him again.

They shouldn’t have that Caruso go (as a Bulls fan super glad they did), that’s the exact type of player they need to build around Anthony Davis and Lebron.

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April 12, 2022, 11:53:43 PM
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The sad part is he was not informed early until it was leaked to ESPN. Ouch! Surprises. Lakers management does love that.  Grin
Now the roster, we might be surprised too in the next days to come or before the season starts again. I bet they are going to overhaul that roster again and seek players that are younger. Who knows, they might be done with making a veteran lineup again.
Where would Howard go that will make him more productive and be back with 20+ minutes per game? I wish a team signs him up. It's too cheap for just $2.6M for an agile 37 years old.
He will be a great asset for this era being dominated by 3 giant players.

Well! that's just how it is if the management doesn't like the result of your hard work and you failed to give them the championship they wanted to further expand their profits from the Lakers merchandise and other stuff. The question is, who will gonna replace Frank after this season? I'm sure it will be a huge challenge for whoever it will be because they will gonna overhaul the entire roosters and they gonna trade Westbrook

Honestly who is going to take on westbrooks bloated contract?  One thing is for sure Lakers will need to sweeten the deal with young players and/or draft capital.  No one wants that albatross of a contract on their books.  Lakers are gonna get worse before they get better.

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April 12, 2022, 11:56:05 PM
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John Wall before all the injuries about 6-7 years ago, absolutely, but agreed at this point he’s much older and worn down and always hurt. He did however drop a near career high in averaged point in 2020-2021 with 20.6pts, that’s pretty solid. But, no telling if you’ll get that out of him again.

John Wall is expected to play at 100% health next season. The Houston Rockets decide to sit him as literally, they are tanking this season and give this season to see what Jalen Green can do. The test Rockets did this season is how to manage J. Green efficiently if he will now share the court with John Wall as they have almost the same role on the court.

That's why I exclude John Wall from any future trade-related discussions with the Los Angeles Lakers.

No one knows though what will happen.

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Honestly who is going to take on westbrooks bloated contract?  One thing is for sure Lakers will need to sweeten the deal with young players and/or draft capital.  No one wants that albatross of a contract on their books.  Lakers are gonna get worse before they get better.

Don't underestimate the Law of Attraction regarding Russell Westbrook. There will always be a team that will sign him. Cheesy The candidate is Indiana Pacers. Analyzing technically, he is fit on that team. But in return, the Pacers might give up some of their role players although it's still a rumor.

We can only wait on the post-season to see some of the shocking trade events and one thing is for sure, Los Angeles Lakers will be again one of the trade headlines as it was necessary. People are always focused on trading Westbrook but not focus on a Lakers player that still got a high salary this season despite being absent the whole season. What a waste of a roster.

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April 13, 2022, 12:13:42 AM
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I do not know who could replace Vogel but I know that it wouldn't matter as long as this is their roster. I am supportive of getting veterans, the problem wasn't the fact that they had older people, the problem is that AD was constantly injured and Westbrook played horribly all season. If they could trade westbrook, that would be insane thing to see but I doubt they would be even capable of getting anyone for him, the only reasonable idea right now is Wall, and that is not going to improve them at all.

I think they just need to realize that they are screwed for the upcoming seasons and just focus on rebuilding from here on out, they can't build a team that could win anything with what they have.

I think Westbrook to Wall trade could have happened before the deadline if the Lakers had agreed to include a few future draft picks in the deal. Anyway, there is still a high probability that this deal can occur during the offseason. As for Davis, his injury proneness is a really big problem for the Lakers, considering he only played 36 games last season and 40 games this season. As far as I know, there are rumors that the Lakers management might trade him too.

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Nets got the seventh place ticket as we expected. Cavs tried to stay in the game until last moments but it wasn't enough. Garland played big but didn't get much help from others. Nets led the game whole night. Kyrie played almost flawless, he didn't miss a shot until last quarter. Durant was as good as his average. Bruce Brown was an x-factor as he attempted the most field goals. That was because Cavs defend with too many double-team against Kyrie and Durant and that created him more space. As you can see from assist numbers, that strategy worked well for Nets. It was a fair result. Nets will meet with Celtics in play-offs.

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John Wall before all the injuries about 6-7 years ago, absolutely, but agreed at this point he’s much older and worn down and always hurt. He did however drop a near career high in averaged point in 2020-2021 with 20.6pts, that’s pretty solid. But, no telling if you’ll get that out of him again.

John Wall is expected to play at 100% health next season. The Houston Rockets decide to sit him as literally, they are tanking this season and give this season to see what Jalen Green can do. The test Rockets did this season is how to manage J. Green efficiently if he will now share the court with John Wall as they have almost the same role on the court.

That's why I exclude John Wall from any future trade-related discussions with the Los Angeles Lakers.

No one knows though what will happen.

What is everyone's fetish with John wall?  When he was young he was unguardable.  He hasn't played more than 41 ges in a full year since 2016...6 years ago was the last time he played more than half the games.  Sorry but I wouldn't take him for a hair over vet minimum.  What makes people think after 6 years he is gonna play a full season at full health.  Wall is the equivalent of drose.  He needs to be seen as a backup point guard on the squad.  If you expect him to run the team it's gonna end badly.  Hate to say that cause dude got game, but those injuries are too much to overcome in a high impact sport like BB.

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John Wall before all the injuries about 6-7 years ago, absolutely, but agreed at this point he’s much older and worn down and always hurt. He did however drop a near career high in averaged point in 2020-2021 with 20.6pts, that’s pretty solid. But, no telling if you’ll get that out of him again.

John Wall is expected to play at 100% health next season. The Houston Rockets decide to sit him as literally, they are tanking this season and give this season to see what Jalen Green can do. The test Rockets did this season is how to manage J. Green efficiently if he will now share the court with John Wall as they have almost the same role on the court.

That's why I exclude John Wall from any future trade-related discussions with the Los Angeles Lakers.

No one knows though what will happen.

What is everyone's fetish with John wall?  When he was young he was unguardable.  He hasn't played more than 41 ges in a full year since 2016...6 years ago was the last time he played more than half the games.  Sorry but I wouldn't take him for a hair over vet minimum.  What makes people think after 6 years he is gonna play a full season at full health.  Wall is the equivalent of drose.  He needs to be seen as a backup point guard on the squad.  If you expect him to run the team it's gonna end badly.  Hate to say that cause dude got game, but those injuries are too much to overcome in a high impact sport like BB.
Every time John Wall is mentioned one name cross my mind. Gilbert Arenas. Why? I don't know. Injuries, maybe?
2007 the MCL injury, I always thought even if healed it will not be the same Arenas anymore. But shockingly, 2010 he got good stats again 20 points per game but only played 32 games. Then there's the bringing the gun in the locker room issue.
Both players have capabilities of muscling their way in or shooting outside. I think that's where I got the comparison. But back to the issue, health plays an important factor and these players creates problems mentally when their off court for a long time.
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April 13, 2022, 09:59:52 AM
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Nets got the seventh place ticket as we expected. Cavs tried to stay in the game until last moments but it wasn't enough. Garland played big but didn't get much help from others. Nets led the game whole night. Kyrie played almost flawless, he didn't miss a shot until last quarter. Durant was as good as his average. Bruce Brown was an x-factor as he attempted the most field goals. That was because Cavs defend with too many double-team against Kyrie and Durant and that created him more space. As you can see from assist numbers, that strategy worked well for Nets. It was a fair result. Nets will meet with Celtics in play-offs.
That was an extremely efficient scoring by Kyrie and quite a balanced team contribution. I think Bowen could have (or should have) done more with his 18 points from 19 attempts. With that kind of output from Nets bench, a team with better offense like Celtics could apply the same type of defense on KD and/or Kyrie will have better chance of winning than the Cavs.
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Nets got the seventh place ticket as we expected. Cavs tried to stay in the game until last moments but it wasn't enough. Garland played big but didn't get much help from others. Nets led the game whole night. Kyrie played almost flawless, he didn't miss a shot until last quarter. Durant was as good as his average. Bruce Brown was an x-factor as he attempted the most field goals. That was because Cavs defend with too many double-team against Kyrie and Durant and that created him more space. As you can see from assist numbers, that strategy worked well for Nets. It was a fair result. Nets will meet with Celtics in play-offs.

It was an expected result since Jarret Allen is not playing. now they need to survive to win against the other teams in the play-in tournament to be able to get on the number 8 spot which will gonna be the against the Miami Heat. Everyone is expecting some obvious result when it comes to the NBA playoffs where the Nets vs Celtics and the Boston Celtics will beat the Nets in this series, I don't know, but I think we will know much of the result after game 1 because as we all know playoff games are different and the veterans here are the Brooklyn Nets, not the Boston Celtics.

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