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Lol, Haters gonna hate though, still early to conclude that there's no chemistry and that they are a good 7th-8th place team. Gonna love those haters, and we all know that Lebron just want some fuel to his quest for another ring and tie the GOAT Michael Jordan at 6.
Yep, let's see the regular games first. They gave us a good chance to peek at their strength in this preseason and I can say these veterans sure have a lot of energy even with their age. Watching Dwight move like he was still in his 20's makes me wonder if he will ever retire this game. Blocks, Alleyoops, Switch, and Pick and roll, he can still do it and there is no trace of being a 35-year-old guy. While the Lakers have him, I am sure the rim will always be protected and so does the team with his bully ball style. Lakers are just warming up, preseasons got a lot of critics and LeBron love that it will serve as his inspiration. This upcoming regular season will be the deciding factor to see if they are really aging or they are still the favorite to win this year's title. We never know what LeBron is planning, together with his new Pal, though they are not new since he already played with them during the all-star / Olympics. We will see more from this team and how they will adjust and make a good conversion from each game that they will play.
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October 16, 2021, 01:26:24 PM |
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Now we wait for Tuesday night to see the Nets vs Bucks & Warriors vs Lakers on TNT. I’ll be watching for sure… the timing seems perfect for Bitcoin to hit an all time high then as well. Sounds like all the makings for a great evening.
Lakers is -4.5 against the Warriors +4.5. I'm not sure who wins this game opening match, but a huge possiblity the game could go over 230. So, I guess betting "over" is most likely a good bet considering that these two teams have both offensive fire power. The GSW roster this year seems like everyone could shoot a three with a high percentage fg, and so the Lakers won't back down on scoring as well. Lakers with -4.5 could also be a good bet. Who knows they could be a dominating team and way too different on what we have seen in the pre-season games.
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October 16, 2021, 01:45:51 PM |
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7-14 shooting from 3 point line, that's awesome but it's not special for Curry as he can make that every game he wants. He is gifted with sharpshooting ability, he will continue to score and carry the team, but if his splash brother will come back, it will be harder to guard Curry as Thompson could also do the same if he is not guarded well.
Even if I consider that this is just normal for him, when he does his moves on the floor everything seems to change. It's like a brand new Curry again that surpasses his own every year. You can't take your eyes off him when he starts holding the ball. How much change will the defensive guy do to take advantage of the new rule that was provided by the NBA? I want to witness if that will change the shooting style of Curry and other shooters like Harden and Dame. Will they be hesitant when more calls will be against the offensive player rather than the D? We may explore it more when Patrick Beverley confronts this named shooters.
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October 16, 2021, 02:41:47 PM |
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7-14 shooting from 3 point line, that's awesome but it's not special for Curry as he can make that every game he wants. He is gifted with sharpshooting ability, he will continue to score and carry the team, but if his splash brother will come back, it will be harder to guard Curry as Thompson could also do the same if he is not guarded well.
Even if I consider that this is just normal for him, when he does his moves on the floor everything seems to change. It's like a brand new Curry again that surpasses his own every year. You can't take your eyes off him when he starts holding the ball. How much change will the defensive guy do to take advantage of the new rule that was provided by the NBA? I want to witness if that will change the shooting style of Curry and other shooters like Harden and Dame. Will they be hesitant when more calls will be against the offensive player rather than the D? We may explore it more when Patrick Beverley confronts this named shooters. Players like Curry always have that caliber to adjust. He already knew that, right? He's been the first one who experienced that adjustment from this new rule, but he didn't get the offensive foul, though and coach Kerr smile since that play happened in front of him and that shots, if I remember it correctly, is a valid foul. Curry was good at attracting defense but with these new rules, adjustment is really needed not to be annoyed if ref will not call or if shit happens, shooters will get the foul instead.
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October 16, 2021, 02:47:44 PM |
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Will they be hesitant when more calls will be against the offensive player rather than the D? We may explore it more when Patrick Beverley confronts this named shooters. No idea of this, what's that new rule? Meaning an offensive player attempting to be fouled by their defender while doing 3s is not a subject now for a sure call even there's a contact? Unless a clear and intentional foul. Like for example. Harden for three, fake, the defender will jump, Harden will bump the defender on air, foul! No problem with Curry but for Harden, that's a problem. That was Harden's habit on Houston Rockets and he was always successful in doing that lol.
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October 16, 2021, 03:31:19 PM |
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Lol, Haters gonna hate though, still early to conclude that there's no chemistry and that they are a good 7th-8th place team. Gonna love those haters, and we all know that Lebron just want some fuel to his quest for another ring and tie the GOAT Michael Jordan at 6.
Yep, let's see the regular games first. They gave us a good chance to peek at their strength in this preseason and I can say these veterans sure have a lot of energy even with their age. Watching Dwight move like he was still in his 20's makes me wonder if he will ever retire this game. Blocks, Alleyoops, Switch, and Pick and roll, he can still do it and there is no trace of being a 35-year-old guy. While the Lakers have him, I am sure the rim will always be protected and so does the team with his bully ball style. I think Dwight is really undervalued by the league, yes, he is no longer in his prime, but the most important thing he can provide is the intimidation and the psyche war, specially against big men. It was so evident during their championship run 2 years ago, he was very instrumental to make Jokic very uncomfortable in their playoff series. And as you have said, Rondo and James alley oop pass and then totally destroying the ring. He will still be a big factor in Lakers if they are going to make it to the finals this year. ^ This Lakers team is full of experienced players like Lebron, Dwight, Carmelo, and even Anthony Davis. Their chemistry has been all over the place in the preseasons but I'm very optimistic that it will improve over time. And oh Dwight has been the cherry on top for them. It doesn't even seem like he is 35 years old. I just hope and pray that they get their chemistry right asap.
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October 16, 2021, 04:57:26 PM |
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Will they be hesitant when more calls will be against the offensive player rather than the D? We may explore it more when Patrick Beverley confronts this named shooters. No idea of this, what's that new rule? Meaning an offensive player attempting to be fouled by their defender while doing 3s is not a subject now for a sure call even there's a contact? Unless a clear and intentional foul. Like for example. Harden for three, fake, the defender will jump, Harden will bump the defender on air, foul! No problem with Curry but for Harden, that's a problem. That was Harden's habit on Houston Rockets and he was always successful in doing that lol. Yes, that's the new rule. It will be called an offensive foul if the shooter is the one moving forward after a fake or a hesitation move. Harden will surely need a lot of adjustments and then Trae Young also with his sudden stops bumping to the defender behind him to attract a foul. It's either the referee will not call anything or it will be against the offensive player. I bet it will be a little trickier in the start but that is the right call. There have been signs that is being abused by shooter while they already put the hand check rule for them. That's too much "plus" for them, its time to stop it. The new rule was discussed last year but will fully implemented now.
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October 16, 2021, 05:57:43 PM |
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Will they be hesitant when more calls will be against the offensive player rather than the D? We may explore it more when Patrick Beverley confronts this named shooters. No idea of this, what's that new rule? Meaning an offensive player attempting to be fouled by their defender while doing 3s is not a subject now for a sure call even there's a contact? Unless a clear and intentional foul. Like for example. Harden for three, fake, the defender will jump, Harden will bump the defender on air, foul! No problem with Curry but for Harden, that's a problem. That was Harden's habit on Houston Rockets and he was always successful in doing that lol. Harden is versatile though, that's not what he only has, he can put the ball inside the court and not only take three's, the Nets have other options and I'm pretty sure that Harden is not first option but rather Kevin Durant, he's much more consistent and much more effective, on the other hand, Harden is a good ball handler and can use his floater anytime he wants to or pass it to the bigs, I don't see this as a nerf to Harden but an opportunity for him to use his versatility.
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October 16, 2021, 07:51:32 PM |
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Will they be hesitant when more calls will be against the offensive player rather than the D? We may explore it more when Patrick Beverley confronts this named shooters. No idea of this, what's that new rule? Meaning an offensive player attempting to be fouled by their defender while doing 3s is not a subject now for a sure call even there's a contact? Unless a clear and intentional foul. Like for example. Harden for three, fake, the defender will jump, Harden will bump the defender on air, foul! No problem with Curry but for Harden, that's a problem. That was Harden's habit on Houston Rockets and he was always successful in doing that lol. Harden is versatile though, that's not what he only has, he can put the ball inside the court and not only take three's, the Nets have other options and I'm pretty sure that Harden is not first option but rather Kevin Durant, he's much more consistent and much more effective, on the other hand, Harden is a good ball handler and can use his floater anytime he wants to or pass it to the bigs, I don't see this as a nerf to Harden but an opportunity for him to use his versatility. Of course, he will adjust and he has to because they are on a mission this season, they failed last season, they'll try to make it again this season. Harden, though we sometimes criticize his style, all he is doing is legal in the rules of the NBA, now he has to adjust but it's not hard for him since he is not carrying the load alone, he has Durant and Irving (this guy has real problem) too to contribute for the team.
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October 16, 2021, 08:29:56 PM |
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Yes, that's the new rule. It will be called an offensive foul if the shooter is the one moving forward after a fake or a hesitation move. Harden will surely need a lot of adjustments and then Trae Young also with his sudden stops bumping to the defender behind him to attract a foul. It's either the referee will not call anything or it will be against the offensive player. I bet it will be a little trickier in the start but that is the right call. There have been signs that is being abused by shooter while they already put the hand check rule for them. That's too much "plus" for them, its time to stop it. The new rule was discussed last year but will fully implemented now.
I wasn't fully aware of this new rule. I searched and found this. https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2021/10/5/22710715/nba-new-rule-shooting-fouls-stephen-curry-steve-kerrIf I understand you correctly, if the defender jumps first and the attacker is on the ground and jumps towards the defender to collision, that's not allowed, right? I believe with this rule the game can improve, as fouls are often staged by some players. If I understand you correctly, in this case of Dončić, that would be illegal, right? https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1443591620901761040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1443591620901761040%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%7CtwcGuys, what do you think about this new rule!!?
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October 16, 2021, 08:39:11 PM |
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Lol, Haters gonna hate though, still early to conclude that there's no chemistry and that they are a good 7th-8th place team. Gonna love those haters, and we all know that Lebron just want some fuel to his quest for another ring and tie the GOAT Michael Jordan at 6. That year they ended up losing Nash to back injuries, then howard for something else, and the end by the time Kobe took the team to playoffs he pushed himself so hard that he had a horrible injury and after that he never really recovered and he sucked for the rest of his career and eventually retired as well. There is absolutely nothing that we could be basically seeing from this team that would be totally unrelated with each other. I believe that there is a good chance that they could end up with something that is literally the exactly the same thing. I mean sure we could have this team a lot better if they stay healthy but we could literally see the same exact thing this season as well, with older players end up getting injured constantly and that would be the horrible situation where they end up winning nothing. They are definitely a good team, but way too old, so injuries will definitely play into the result.
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October 16, 2021, 08:48:00 PM |
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Lol, Haters gonna hate though, still early to conclude that there's no chemistry and that they are a good 7th-8th place team. Gonna love those haters, and we all know that Lebron just want some fuel to his quest for another ring and tie the GOAT Michael Jordan at 6. That year they ended up losing Nash to back injuries, then howard for something else, and the end by the time Kobe took the team to playoffs he pushed himself so hard that he had a horrible injury and after that he never really recovered and he sucked for the rest of his career and eventually retired as well. There is absolutely nothing that we could be basically seeing from this team that would be totally unrelated with each other. I believe that there is a good chance that they could end up with something that is literally the exactly the same thing. I mean sure we could have this team a lot better if they stay healthy but we could literally see the same exact thing this season as well, with older players end up getting injured constantly and that would be the horrible situation where they end up winning nothing. They are definitely a good team, but way too old, so injuries will definitely play into the result. The big issue is the chemistry here, yes they are older but they have a lot of players who can help when one is injured but they will not be able to do it successfully if they don't have the chemistry. Like what happened in the past in that picture comparison, it was also the chemistry problem that is the big culprit, and we can understand since these are star players who usually have the same role as each other, which is to lead the team.
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^^ Only two teams that I saw that happen, The Bulls 1995-1996 season (not sure if some of you have been born already) and then the Warriors 2015-2016.
Those two teams are great, they've been playing for years before they dominate the league.
So I'm not sure if Lakers with their current line up can accomplished it within one season. Not saying that they are not that good, but with the level of competition right now, it's going to be very difficult.
Lakers will not do it, they are struggling in the preseason already and that's an evidence that they will not do well early in the regular season. They will have to work on their chemistry first before I would say they have a chance, and remember, Lebron is not young anymore, he has some limitations that's why he chooses to play with the star players so his burden will be lighter. While there are others who are seeing Lakers negatively, I'm the one who is thinking like "This is only pre-season and I believe that the Lakers are hiding something in their sleeves that will help them in the regular season". Well if you will see their past resumes, most of them are all stars and most of them are the go-to guy when they are at their primes in their past teams. That isn't the case right now. They are old enough to get outsped by other young players. I'm not saying though that they are not a strong team but we are expecting too much from them and we are disregarding their ages and their chemistry as well. They are old and they also have limitations as well. We are expecting that they will build a chemistry as they play for a longer time but even though it will be built, I don't think that they are that dominant that to the point that they will be at the top in Western Conference though we might see them in playoffs. Earlier this off-season we are expecting Nets Vs. Lakers in NBA Finals but now that the Lakers are playing this way, do you think that these 2 teams will meet at the NBA Finals still?? It is preseason yes, and will their in season rotation look different, yep. People male too much of it. But between time management and injuries this team is going to have its struggles. I can see 58 is wins for the Lakers this year. No way they get anywhere near 70. Too old.
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October 16, 2021, 09:25:05 PM |
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Will they be hesitant when more calls will be against the offensive player rather than the D? We may explore it more when Patrick Beverley confronts this named shooters. No idea of this, what's that new rule? Meaning an offensive player attempting to be fouled by their defender while doing 3s is not a subject now for a sure call even there's a contact? Unless a clear and intentional foul. Like for example. Harden for three, fake, the defender will jump, Harden will bump the defender on air, foul! No problem with Curry but for Harden, that's a problem. That was Harden's habit on Houston Rockets and he was always successful in doing that lol. Yes, that's the new rule. It will be called an offensive foul if the shooter is the one moving forward after a fake or a hesitation move. Harden will surely need a lot of adjustments and then Trae Young also with his sudden stops bumping to the defender behind him to attract a foul. It's either the referee will not call anything or it will be against the offensive player. I bet it will be a little trickier in the start but that is the right call. There have been signs that is being abused by shooter while they already put the hand check rule for them. That's too much "plus" for them, its time to stop it. The new rule was discussed last year but will fully implemented now. Yes, this can be attributed to most offensive players such as Steph Curry or Paul Geroge locking your arms which I must say was very effective in getting into the free throws and score points. Now it's time for them to adjust to this new rule and hopefully the ref will cal it against them so that it will take away the ability of the offensive player and the defensive player will not be frustrated because it is. You try to play good defense but most of the time you get the foul.
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October 16, 2021, 09:48:08 PM |
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Lol, Haters gonna hate though, still early to conclude that there's no chemistry and that they are a good 7th-8th place team. Gonna love those haters, and we all know that Lebron just want some fuel to his quest for another ring and tie the GOAT Michael Jordan at 6. Well, I remember this team from the 2012/2013 season. The Lakers built that team to try to beat the Miami big 3 (LeBron, Wade and Bosh), but this LA team was a failure. I know, some players got injured, but I believe they would still have a chance to advance in the playoffs. The Lakers team is currently excellent (in my opinion), but we will need to see what the team's chemistry will look like over the the regular season, and I also hope that no one gets injured, because this is also an important factor that can tell us the team's future.
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^^ And you can't really compare the 2012/2013 Lakers to the current roster. So that argument is flaw in the beginning. The Lakers of today might be competitive though, majority of them joined just to have that one ring, so for sure they will do everything.
The only point of contention for the Lakers is the chemistry - but that's understandable, the season hasn't started yet and people are bashing them basing on the preseason games, Lol.
If we are in the middle of the season and the Lakers are like 20-20 then maybe there is a problem within the team. But at this point wherein the regular technically has started, we cannot say that they are doom to fail because of the chemistry issue.
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^^ And you can't really compare the 2012/2013 Lakers to the current roster. So that argument is flaw in the beginning. The Lakers of today might be competitive though, majority of them joined just to have that one ring, so for sure they will do everything.
The only point of contention for the Lakers is the chemistry - but that's understandable, the season hasn't started yet and people are bashing them basing on the preseason games, Lol.
If we are in the middle of the season and the Lakers are like 20-20 then maybe there is a problem within the team. But at this point wherein the regular technically has started, we cannot say that they are doom to fail because of the chemistry issue.
And I do agree, we should not judge them about the preseason games because it is just like for fun, nothing too serious about it. Their performance may change in this upcoming regular season, then, we may see what is the real deal here. But basing the preseason, is not really valid for me. Bookies are busy again with this season. A lot are looking forward to this season because of the pandemic last year.
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^^ And you can't really compare the 2012/2013 Lakers to the current roster. So that argument is flaw in the beginning. The Lakers of today might be competitive though, majority of them joined just to have that one ring, so for sure they will do everything.
The only point of contention for the Lakers is the chemistry - but that's understandable, the season hasn't started yet and people are bashing them basing on the preseason games, Lol.
If we are in the middle of the season and the Lakers are like 20-20 then maybe there is a problem within the team. But at this point wherein the regular technically has started, we cannot say that they are doom to fail because of the chemistry issue.
And I do agree, we should not judge them about the preseason games because it is just like for fun, nothing too serious about it. Their performance may change in this upcoming regular season, then, we may see what is the real deal here. But basing the preseason, is not really valid for me. Bookies are busy again with this season. A lot are looking forward to this season because of the pandemic last year. Good point, we should judge the early, they can make the adjustments later and I don't think that in the whole season, they will play mediocre. There could be some games that will show up as regulars, but most likely, the chemistry question will be answered in just a couple of games, specially when they play outside against any tough teams in both division. Maybe a good win against the reigning champion, or a good ass whopping of Nets staring KD and Harden.
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Based on what everyone has seen in the Vegas league and preseason who does everyone have as the ROY? I know cade and jalen green are getting the early nod but I think Evan mobley has a leg up. He is gonna get a ton of minutes and as a true big man he is going to get the stats (rbs and paint points) to garner the ROY or at least have the opportunity. My only hope is that he doesn't sit outside the paint. Gonna put a little dough on him for roy.
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Based on what everyone has seen in the Vegas league and preseason who does everyone have as the ROY? I know cade and jalen green are getting the early nod but I think Evan mobley has a leg up. He is gonna get a ton of minutes and as a true big man he is going to get the stats (rbs and paint points) to garner the ROY or at least have the opportunity. My only hope is that he doesn't sit outside the paint. Gonna put a little dough on him for roy.
No candidate for now. Not much hype and speculation about the early guess of who will be the possible contender for the Rookie of the Year unlike in the previous seasons that there's already a hot player on the discussion even the season is not officially commenced yet. And I do agree, we should not judge them about the preseason games because it is just like for fun, nothing too serious about it. Their performance may change in this upcoming regular season, then, we may see what is the real deal here. But basing the preseason, is not really valid for me. Bookies are busy again with this season. A lot are looking forward to this season because of the pandemic last year.
What do you mean by based on the preseason, what's not valid for you? Anyways, pre-season games are not for fun even there's a lack of competition. It's a testing phase, especially for bench players. If these players will not perform well in pre-season, coaches won't know if they are fit to blend with the main core lineup. That's the reason why starters mostly rest and let other players on the squad play those games.
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