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January 23, 2022, 04:14:42 PM |
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Everything is possible though in NBA, everyone is not safe to be traded from the Lakers, maybe Lebron is the only one. But Russell Westbrook? the management will trade him in a heart beat if they think he is the problem with the Lakers woes.
So this news might have some weight though, but we will have to see. Maybe the management is really thinking of trading their coaches right now or just players.
It's a business to protect if those individuals are not meeting what's the expected outcome from them, They are possibly being traded or replace; we don't know yet if who will be traded, either the players or the coach and his staff what the fans are seeing right now is not what they expected from this franchise. The team management needs to comply and find the better solution for this concern be back in track bringing the competition up again.
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January 23, 2022, 04:38:20 PM |
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Firing a coach is an option but I don't also think it will change the whole Lakers. What they need is an adjustment but I can't understand why it takes too long for the chemistry to maintain its consistency.
Well, I'm not saying that Frank Vogel is ain't a good coach, but maybe the Lakers do need some new head coach with different perspective and style. This situation right here already happened in the Lakers way back 98-99 season when Kurt Rambis don't know what to do with the Shaq-Kobe pair as they're also struggling to win every game, so the management decided to bring in Phil Jackson as their new head coach and since that year the Lakers have won 3 straight championship with ofcourse Shaq-Kobe pair as their lead.
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January 23, 2022, 05:42:33 PM |
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Firing a coach is an option but I don't also think it will change the whole Lakers. What they need is an adjustment but I can't understand why it takes too long for the chemistry to maintain its consistency.
Well, I'm not saying that Frank Vogel is ain't a good coach, but maybe the Lakers do need some new head coach with different perspective and style. This situation right here already happened in the Lakers way back 98-99 season when Kurt Rambis don't know what to do with the Shaq-Kobe pair as they're also struggling to win every game, so the management decided to bring in Phil Jackson as their new head coach and since that year the Lakers have won 3 straight championship with ofcourse Shaq-Kobe pair as their lead. Speaking of coaches, who do you guys thinks a better suited coach to head the Lakers and handle the Lebron-Westbrook+AD tandem though? We've heard so much about our opinions on the Frank Vogel case and that he should be fired if they loss on the next game? But who is going to replace him?
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January 23, 2022, 06:17:54 PM |
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Firing a coach is an option but I don't also think it will change the whole Lakers. What they need is an adjustment but I can't understand why it takes too long for the chemistry to maintain its consistency.
Well, I'm not saying that Frank Vogel is ain't a good coach, but maybe the Lakers do need some new head coach with different perspective and style. This situation right here already happened in the Lakers way back 98-99 season when Kurt Rambis don't know what to do with the Shaq-Kobe pair as they're also struggling to win every game, so the management decided to bring in Phil Jackson as their new head coach and since that year the Lakers have won 3 straight championship with ofcourse Shaq-Kobe pair as their lead. Speaking of coaches, who do you guys thinks a better suited coach to head the Lakers and handle the Lebron-Westbrook+AD tandem though? We've heard so much about our opinions on the Frank Vogel case and that he should be fired if they loss on the next game? But who is going to replace him? There really isn't anyone out there right now mid season. They need to ride Vogel for the rest of the year and if they plan on changing it up see what other coaches are going to be available. Vogel isn't the issue here though, it's the age of the players. Reminds me of when they got an old Gary Payton and old Karl Malone and thought it was gon a work.
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January 23, 2022, 07:01:59 PM |
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John Wall is more consistent than Westbrook in terms of shooting and being a point guard. the only problem is his health, he might be a problem if he is injury prone, so it's a gamble for the Lakers to trade Westbrook for Wall. Let's see how these rumors will end up though.
Wall was never a great shooter, he was always a bad one outside of the arc, he is basically what Westbrook was before Westbrook, and to be fair he was super fast when he played, like fastest in the league probably at one point, and his vision of the court was awesome. However when you put all of this together, it doesn't really make it a better team, we are talking about a replacement for Westbrook basically and not a different style. Westbrook is 100% not the problem, but also a bit of the problem. Not because he is a bad player, it just that when you have Lebron who is known to be a beast and go inside with ease and either score or pass out, then having another star that does the same thing makes no sense. You need a shooter there, not a passer, you already have Lebron, so get a target for Lebron and not someone who does the same thing. A player like Curry would be the most ideal of course, but Curry is ideal for every team, so you just need another player like him, Dame would be awesome but he is too big name too, just another shooter at PG basically, nothing else.
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January 23, 2022, 08:26:33 PM |
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Do you guys think CP3 has a chance to win the MVP race if we are not looking at just stats only? Obviously, when it comes to stats Nikola Jokic will be the winner of it but when it comes to impact to the whole team and how he administered the Phoenix Suns in good and bad times CP3 has the upper hand. Those kinds will not be seen in stats but you can see it with how he maneuvers the pace of the game whenever they need it. Isiah Thomas thinks so and I do see his point after watching the Suns game.
I totally understand your point and even though there is some truth in that, I cannot say I agree. CP3 and what he is doing for the Suns is amazing and I really like him but I don't think the MVP award should be just about that. In my opinion, it should be about the individual performance more than what player is bringing and doing for the team. As I said, I like CP3 and would like to see some recognition of how much of a great player he is, but they will probably give the award to Jokic or Giannis. I personally think Jokic deserves it at this point. By the way, as someone wrote it before, what ARE the odds for CP3 mvp? Might be a very interesting bet. Suns are doing 36 - 9 right now. There can be a possibility if they are having an amazing season and only get like 12 loss. Then, CP3 might get the award and that bet can be something great.
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January 23, 2022, 09:31:49 PM |
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Scottie Pippen is back at it promoting his book. This time instead of talking about how he was better than Michael Jordan or how his coach Phil Jackson was a racist for letting Toni Kukoc take the last shot of a basketball game, he's talking about how he wanted to be closer with Michael Jordan but he was never able to. Sure, Jordan was probably a dick, but looking back I'm sure he's glad he was now that Pippen has come out as some sort of jealous saboteur of his legacy. Given Pippen's attitude back in the day regarding surgeries to sit out during the season and not wanting to live up to his contract (one of the worst player contracts ever, that would never happen today), it's really amazing they won 6 titles. You could blame it on a horrible general manager for not paying the players what they deserved and seeding distrust amongst Pippen/Jordan, but maybe it was not caring about the players and paying them less than they deserved that helped him assemble a good enough team to win it all. There's also the possibility that the Bulls front office was the worst ever and Michael Jordan really did carry that team on his back...
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January 23, 2022, 09:39:31 PM |
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There is a great game tonight between Miami Heat and Los Angeles Lakers. Heat are the favourite team here but they have a similar form to Lakers these days. But they still have six more wins than Lakers at the same time. Heat are doing wonderful and Lakers are just trying to win their games thanks to Lebron. Because if he doesn't carry the team, they won't have a big chance for even the playoffs. They are struggling even now and this is alarming. I think that Heat can beat them in this game.
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January 23, 2022, 09:44:58 PM |
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There is a great game tonight between Miami Heat and Los Angeles Lakers. Heat are the favourite team here but they have a similar form to Lakers these days. But they still have six more wins than Lakers at the same time. Heat are doing wonderful and Lakers are just trying to win their games thanks to Lebron. Because if he doesn't carry the team, they won't have a big chance for even the playoffs. They are struggling even now and this is alarming. I think that Heat can beat them in this game.
No doubt on that as the Lakers struggle is not been solved yet. If they lose on a weaker team, how much more on the stronger team like the Heat. I'm also leaning on the heat to win as they work as a team, unlike the Lakers where they are heavily relying on the old Lebron.
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January 23, 2022, 10:11:56 PM |
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Do you guys think CP3 has a chance to win the MVP race if we are not looking at just stats only? Obviously, when it comes to stats Nikola Jokic will be the winner of it but when it comes to impact to the whole team and how he administered the Phoenix Suns in good and bad times CP3 has the upper hand. Those kinds will not be seen in stats but you can see it with how he maneuvers the pace of the game whenever they need it. Isiah Thomas thinks so and I do see his point after watching the Suns game.
If only game impact contribution is counted for choosing season MVP, Chris Paul is a good contender for it. Even right from the start of his career, from Hornets, Clippers, Rockets, Thunders, and currently, Suns, his leadership and smart gameplay literally extracted his teammates' best performance. I think last season, only a few expects that Suns will reach the Finals or not even in Semis. Chris Paul plays a heavy role in why Suns is doing well today. Unfortunately, choosing MVP doesn't work that way.
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January 23, 2022, 10:14:49 PM |
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There is a great game tonight between Miami Heat and Los Angeles Lakers. Heat are the favourite team here but they have a similar form to Lakers these days. But they still have six more wins than Lakers at the same time. Heat are doing wonderful and Lakers are just trying to win their games thanks to Lebron. Because if he doesn't carry the team, they won't have a big chance for even the playoffs. They are struggling even now and this is alarming. I think that Heat can beat them in this game.
No doubt on that as the Lakers struggle is not been solved yet. If they lose on a weaker team, how much more on the stronger team like the Heat. I'm also leaning on the heat to win as they work as a team, unlike the Lakers where they are heavily relying on the old Lebron. The biggest news about this game is that Anthony Davis is being listed as a gametime decision whether he will play or not. I think they'd be better off being a little cautious considering how injury prone he is, but with the Lakers you never know what sort of craziness they've got up their sleeve. I'm a little disappointed that I won't be able to watch the game today, but I've found that YouTube does a great job at showing the entire game, but only the stuff worth watching. It usually cuts an entire game down to about 12 minutes. I think that's actually a better way to enjoy games you missed then watching the Sportscenter highlights, because they only show the best plays and you don't really get an idea how the game went.
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January 23, 2022, 10:53:57 PM |
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Everything is possible though in NBA, everyone is not safe to be traded from the Lakers, maybe Lebron is the only one. But Russell Westbrook? the management will trade him in a heart beat if they think he is the problem with the Lakers woes.
So this news might have some weight though, but we will have to see. Maybe the management is really thinking of trading their coaches right now or just players.
Yes this is true! Anything can happen. I believe that the Lakers staff will study and analyze this trade very well, because it can define the future of the team, both Westbrook and Wall are good players and can make a difference. I don't know if tradding the "coaching staff" will make a difference, but it's something to look into. With this, we can conclude that the Lakers are no longer one of the main favorites to be champions this season.
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Do you guys think CP3 has a chance to win the MVP race if we are not looking at just stats only? Obviously, when it comes to stats Nikola Jokic will be the winner of it but when it comes to impact to the whole team and how he administered the Phoenix Suns in good and bad times CP3 has the upper hand. Those kinds will not be seen in stats but you can see it with how he maneuvers the pace of the game whenever they need it. Isiah Thomas thinks so and I do see his point after watching the Suns game.
No. I don't think that CP3 is actually that important to the Suns. The coaching staff and the rest of the supporting cast are much more significant in my opinion. He is definitely the orchestrator but I don't think that you can say with 100% confidence that he has more impact on his team compared to Giannis, KD, or Jokic.
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January 23, 2022, 11:42:26 PM |
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At this point it only makes sense to take on Russell Westbrook if you are getting draft capital back. Especially for a team who isn't going to compete this year.
Maybe that's what the Rockets want. I mean, it would be a good deal for the Rockets if the Lakers offered them Westbrook and a few draft picks as compensation. That's too much of a deal for Lakers who will be paying John Wall as much as they are paying WB right now. I don't even think that Russ is a better player than John. It doesn't make any sense for them if we're to look at it from that point of view. What would a team like houston do with Westbrook?
Houston could hope for something like the CP3 on the Suns. He will only take minutes from the young guys who need court experience. Who exactly are they trying to build as their next franchise player from this young group?
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Speaking of coaches, who do you guys thinks a better suited coach to head the Lakers and handle the Lebron-Westbrook+AD tandem though?
We've heard so much about our opinions on the Frank Vogel case and that he should be fired if they loss on the next game? But who is going to replace him?
None. I don't see any impact of who's Coach will be able to change Lakers' current play style. It's not something that can be done by simply changing the coach. Even Phil Jackson will coach the Lakers today, if players are not inconsistent, nothing will change.
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January 23, 2022, 11:57:07 PM |
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Do you guys think CP3 has a chance to win the MVP race if we are not looking at just stats only? Obviously, when it comes to stats Nikola Jokic will be the winner of it but when it comes to impact to the whole team and how he administered the Phoenix Suns in good and bad times CP3 has the upper hand. Those kinds will not be seen in stats but you can see it with how he maneuvers the pace of the game whenever they need it. Isiah Thomas thinks so and I do see his point after watching the Suns game.
No. I don't think that CP3 is actually that important to the Suns. The coaching staff and the rest of the supporting cast are much more significant in my opinion. He is definitely the orchestrator but I don't think that you can say with 100% confidence that he has more impact on his team compared to Giannis, KD, or Jokic. Disagree. The current Phoenix Suns are already on the roster (at most) back when Chris Paul is not playing there. When Chris Paul comes, it's like everything has changed and they even got to Finals. Devin Booker is already grabbing lots of points for the Suns before draining lots of 3 points but where does the team always end? They are not even reaching the playoffs. We can't hide the fact that Chris Paul changed the team and it's like all of them are following Chris Paul's advice.
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Do you guys think CP3 has a chance to win the MVP race if we are not looking at just stats only? Obviously, when it comes to stats Nikola Jokic will be the winner of it but when it comes to impact to the whole team and how he administered the Phoenix Suns in good and bad times CP3 has the upper hand. Those kinds will not be seen in stats but you can see it with how he maneuvers the pace of the game whenever they need it. Isiah Thomas thinks so and I do see his point after watching the Suns game.
No. I don't think that CP3 is actually that important to the Suns. The coaching staff and the rest of the supporting cast are much more significant in my opinion. He is definitely the orchestrator but I don't think that you can say with 100% confidence that he has more impact on his team compared to Giannis, KD, or Jokic. Disagree. The current Phoenix Suns are already on the roster (at most) back when Chris Paul is not playing there. When Chris Paul comes, it's like everything has changed and they even got to Finals. Devin Booker is already grabbing lots of points for the Suns before draining lots of 3 points but where does the team always end? They are not even reaching the playoffs. We can't hide the fact that Chris Paul changed the team and it's like all of them are following Chris Paul's advice. Sure, but realistically is he going to win the MVP? Has he had the impact on his team like Jokic and Giannis? I would highly disagree if you said yes. The Bucks in particular are absolutely nowhere without Giannis. I understand that he is valuable, but the MVP award is given not just based off value but also off narratives. From both a value and narrative perspective, CP3 is not in the conversation right now.
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January 24, 2022, 12:49:14 AM |
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Do you guys think CP3 has a chance to win the MVP race if we are not looking at just stats only? Obviously, when it comes to stats Nikola Jokic will be the winner of it but when it comes to impact to the whole team and how he administered the Phoenix Suns in good and bad times CP3 has the upper hand. Those kinds will not be seen in stats but you can see it with how he maneuvers the pace of the game whenever they need it. Isiah Thomas thinks so and I do see his point after watching the Suns game.
No. I don't think that CP3 is actually that important to the Suns. The coaching staff and the rest of the supporting cast are much more significant in my opinion. He is definitely the orchestrator but I don't think that you can say with 100% confidence that he has more impact on his team compared to Giannis, KD, or Jokic. Disagree. The current Phoenix Suns are already on the roster (at most) back when Chris Paul is not playing there. When Chris Paul comes, it's like everything has changed and they even got to Finals. Devin Booker is already grabbing lots of points for the Suns before draining lots of 3 points but where does the team always end? They are not even reaching the playoffs. We can't hide the fact that Chris Paul changed the team and it's like all of them are following Chris Paul's advice. Sure, but realistically is he going to win the MVP? Has he had the impact on his team like Jokic and Giannis? I would highly disagree if you said yes. The Bucks in particular are absolutely nowhere without Giannis. I understand that he is valuable, but the MVP award is given not just based off value but also off narratives. From both a value and narrative perspective, CP3 is not in the conversation right now. I see. You take literally what @Reid said. Of course, CP3 is not in the MVP conversation right now given it's all about stats. He is asking for another scenario since Phoenix Suns is currently the leading team in the Western Conference with only 9 losses so far and we are now reaching half of the NBA season. What we are saying here is impact. If Phoenix Suns don't have CP3, I doubt they are in the Finals last season or with a good standing today. If you will say that Phoenix Suns can reach the top on the standing today without CP3, we will have an argument.
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January 24, 2022, 01:06:40 AM |
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The biggest news about this game is that Anthony Davis is being listed as a gametime decision whether he will play or not. I think they'd be better off being a little cautious considering how injury prone he is, but with the Lakers you never know what sort of craziness they've got up their sleeve.
Unfortunately, AD is still out. Vogel said Davis is progressing well, but he's still not ready. Regarding the game against the Heat, it seems it will be another defeat for the Lakers because they're losing by more than 20 points after the end of the 3rd quarter. It's obvious that the current Lakers roster is not able to compete against strong teams.
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January 24, 2022, 01:11:35 AM |
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Speaking of coaches, who do you guys thinks a better suited coach to head the Lakers and handle the Lebron-Westbrook+AD tandem though?
We've heard so much about our opinions on the Frank Vogel case and that he should be fired if they loss on the next game? But who is going to replace him?
MaybeMike D'Antoni since he already handled Russell Westbrook before in Houston Rockets. Since Westbrook is sometimes a problem, D'Antoni might find a way how to use Westbrook at his best. He also handled the veteran Carmelo Anthony before in New York Knicks and surely knows on what spot does Anthony may be effective at his current gameplay. By cooperating with Coach Lebron James, their combined coaching skills and ideas might lift the Los Angeles Lakers.
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