2024 NBA Season

[Finestream]

^^ Yes your are correct, the last time I checked, (about a month ago), Embiid was all over the MVP race and he is the odds favorite.

But recently, Jokic and Giannis is doing good numbers statistically and bringing their team to a win why the Sixers, even with Harden is losing games right now. But for sure it will be a close fight for the MVP between the 3.

Gobert was interviewed and said if it was making the team better it was all Nikola Jokic. He approves about him being MVP which I think is right. It's the value of a  player that matter and he had been lifting the Nuggets when Murray and MPJ was injured. They have Gordon yes, but the Joker had always been the center of their everything. He even made a new record that was not done since the start of the league. That should be a big plus to consider if ever the voting system will have the higher percentage to win.

And that's the main spice of being an MVP, doing everything for the best of the team, not just for personal stats

but to help the team in winning the game, Joker despite of being a center, he has that great talent distributing the ball, a very simple

but yet impacting when he's inside the court. He deserves to win another MVP award but both Giannis and Embiid are also doing everything

to win this award, whoever wins deserves to own the title. Only one will take the trophy!

Joker deserves to win because he leads his team most of the time on their wins. Not having Murray and Porter is not a problem, they were still able to make it to the playoffs. Embiid has Harden and Giannis has Middleton, so I think Joker has the edge because he has no Robin helping him to achieve the success.

[Distinctin]

Embiid has Harden and Giannis has Middleton, so I think Joker has the edge because he has no Robin helping him to achieve the success.

That's a big difference, that's why he should win the finals MVP.

Lebron makes a lot of excuses, I thought he would be able to compete in this award but his team sucks, so he will just continue to achieve individual success while the impact on his team is not seen and felt.

I'm not sure if the betting line is still open now, but 1.31 odds for the Joker is still good to take.

[OgNasty]

Embiid has Harden and Giannis has Middleton, so I think Joker has the edge because he has no Robin helping him to achieve the success.

That's a big difference, that's why he should win the finals MVP.

Lebron makes a lot of excuses, I thought he would be able to compete in this award but his team sucks, so he will just continue to achieve individual success while the impact on his team is not seen and felt.

I'm not sure if the betting line is still open now, but 1.31 odds for the Joker is still good to take.

With the stats he’s putting up, it would be difficult to deny that Giannis is the MVP. It seems like the voters always make the mistake of giving MVPs too soon to a player and then are left with a decision on what to do going forward when that player gets better. Steve Nash, Steph Curry, Giannis, all won MVPs a season before they should have. LeBron should’ve gotten 2 of those MVPs and Shaquille O’Neal should’ve gotten one. All of those players came back with even better years and forced voters to give them more MVPs because voters wanted so bad for a new face to be at the top before it was time.

[Japinat]

Embiid has Harden and Giannis has Middleton, so I think Joker has the edge because he has no Robin helping him to achieve the success.

That's a big difference, that's why he should win the finals MVP.

Lebron makes a lot of excuses, I thought he would be able to compete in this award but his team sucks, so he will just continue to achieve individual success while the impact on his team is not seen and felt.

I'm not sure if the betting line is still open now, but 1.31 odds for the Joker is still good to take.

With the stats he’s putting up, it would be difficult to deny that Giannis is the MVP. It seems like the voters always make the mistake of giving MVPs too soon to a player and then are left with a decision on what to do going forward when that player gets better. Steve Nash, Steph Curry, Giannis, all won MVPs a season before they should have. LeBron should’ve gotten 2 of those MVPs and Shaquille O’Neal should’ve gotten one. All of those players came back with even better years and forced voters to give them more MVPs because voters wanted so bad for a new face to be at the top before it was time.

The fact that the betting line is still open, there's still no assurance on who will win the MVP award, but it seems to me that Joker would really win this because he is the heavy favorite to win.

This is the updated betting odds, Giannis is only ranked at number 3.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/mvp/

Nikola Jokic (Denver) -320
Joel Embiid (Philadelphia) +220
Giannis Antetokounmpo (Milwaukee) +600

[el kaka22]

Joker is a player that can turn a team around all by himself by making others good as well. That should be the "most valuable player" award because valuable means not just being good yourself, but making your team good. Embiid is a great player for sure, there is no doubt about that, but is he the player that makes sixers great? I mean he makes them win for sure, but his talent doesn't help anyone else, giannis at least had some, but not that much passing anymore.

It is not just about passing neither, I mean you do not have to have high assists numbers, we had plenty of MVP's before without too high of an assists averages, but you need to find a way to make everyone else better as well, not just be individually great, or if you are, then you need to be clearly better than everyone else, not just by a little. Joker is both as great as others at everything, but he also makes his team shine as well.

[Maslate]

I agree with @el kaka22.

Jokic might not have fancy moves but he is very effective on the floor.
His assists numbers are just great, I think no other big man in the NBA that are smart as Jokic in terms of finding his teammates.

Actually, he made history.

Nikola Jokic becomes 1st player in NBA history with 2,000 points, 1,000 rebounds and 500 assists in season

[magneto]

Embiid has Harden and Giannis has Middleton, so I think Joker has the edge because he has no Robin helping him to achieve the success.

That's a big difference, that's why he should win the finals MVP.

Lebron makes a lot of excuses, I thought he would be able to compete in this award but his team sucks, so he will just continue to achieve individual success while the impact on his team is not seen and felt.

I'm not sure if the betting line is still open now, but 1.31 odds for the Joker is still good to take.

Those are good odds for sure.

I think the narrative has entirely shifted as Jokic has had himself another amazing season. It is clear to me that he is going to win back-to-back MVPs.

Especially as Maslate just mentioned, he broke a pretty nice record of 2k points, 1k rebounds and 500 assists. That literally has not been done before, so it would be a very difficult ask for anyone to vote Embiid over him.

[Baofeng]

Embiid has Harden and Giannis has Middleton, so I think Joker has the edge because he has no Robin helping him to achieve the success.

That's a big difference, that's why he should win the finals MVP.

Lebron makes a lot of excuses, I thought he would be able to compete in this award but his team sucks, so he will just continue to achieve individual success while the impact on his team is not seen and felt.

I'm not sure if the betting line is still open now, but 1.31 odds for the Joker is still good to take.

I do agree with that, and it should be the deciding factor as to who will get it this year. Nevertheless, it's up to those who are going to vote and they might be swayed to vote against Jokic or at least give to someone this year, maybe Joel Embiid. But as far as the numbers and the impact to the team, Jokic stats can't be denied.

[wheelz1200]

LeBron hinted that he wanted to play with Stephen Curry, and Steph responded that he's good. 

 Imagine a world where Lakers get wiggins and some draft picks and whatever filler they can. In exchange for that Warriors get Lebron. I mean not only he is good enough even at that age, but dude would be the perfect player to play in that team. Just give him the ball, and watch him pile up assists like crazy. This isn't just lebron though, like rondo could do that even at this age, but his position is filled with curry, lebron is a great big that can pass, he could play the small ball line up as well. I mean this is just unreal for Warriors if it were to happen, would change the way a bit but could still be awesome for sure. Would love to watch that before he retires, dude could have like 12-13 assists per game avarages realistically and reach like 20 assists multiple times if he ever played there.

The last thing the Lakers want is Wiggins for lebron.  If they would ever get rid of lebron is for picks, they need a rebuild if they are dumping Bron.  If that then AD goes to a contender with young talent to shed.  Young talent deep draft picks and free agency splash and they will be back to looking forward.  They need to do something, but Wiggins he'll nah.  It would have to be kuminga or Wiseman and some draft picks.

[agustina2]

The last thing the Lakers want is Wiggins for lebron.  If they would ever get rid of lebron is for picks, they need a rebuild if they are dumping Bron.  If that then AD goes to a contender with young talent to shed.  Young talent deep draft picks and free agency splash and they will be back to looking forward.  They need to do something, but Wiggins he'll nah.  It would have to be kuminga or Wiseman and some draft picks.

Lakers are already rebuilding since the last years of Kobe but they failed. They should not dump Lebron as this team will get nowhere. The Lakers are a total dump before Lebron arrived. They just need to tweak some things like the failure of Vogel to distribute a good playing time to his players. When Lebron is not playing, look how bad they are.

Lebron makes a lot of excuses, I thought he would be able to compete in this award but his team sucks, so he will just continue to achieve individual success while the impact on his team is not seen and felt.

Lebron did his best but his team really sucks. He is also not stat-padding as his usual average even before. Almost the entire of his teammates are not consistent. I can't say the reason is that they just allow Lebron to make players as to when he is not playing, they still trash even against a lower seed team.

Unfortunately that they didn't use Anthony Davis much this season because him being prone to injury. Kendrick Nunn also robbed them lol.

[DukeNickle]

I'm looking forward to watching the playoffs now. There are only two games left for the regular season to end. It is sad for me also to see that Lakers are not in the playoffs. Lebron James must be really frustrated about the general performance of his team. And their performance recently has also been terrible. It was the decider for them to qualify for the playoffs or not. They lost too many games in a row and lost their chance as a result. Lebron wouldn't continue with the same starting five for sure.

[goinmerry]

Especially as Maslate just mentioned, he broke a pretty nice record of 2k points, 1k rebounds and 500 assists. That literally has not been done before, so it would be a very difficult ask for anyone to vote Embiid over him.

Whatever records have been achieved, choosing this year's Season MVP will still depend on certain categories especially the percentage of votes on each factor. The impact that these players did on their team also does not plays a role that's why sometimes it's unfair.

The most deciding factor really depends on the overall stats that a player made throughout the season.

Few games remaining to add some to these nominees' stats. If Jokic will put up big numbers on their remaining games, he will maintain his 1st rank on the Weekly MVP race ladder.

[chaser15]

Who knows things will be change when he is on nets especially if he get proper support to his teammates and his coaches then he will got huge confidence to shot more better than when he is on sixers, But I believe Nets will not get a problem in that area since they already have quality shooters on their team and most provably they need Simmons defensive presence and passing to make their team more better.

I doubt there will be a change of his shooting on Simmons part. No need to do that as what Nets like him to do is to play on his usual and within his comfort zone. Let the shooting does with his teammates and he just needs to focus on his preferred skill. It's impossible for me to think that he's not getting full support from his former team. Shooting might not just be his main skill but his driving to the hoop and defense skill is one of the best in the league.

He is a big contribution to the Nets team but we have to wait until next season before seeing him fully play as per the report, he won't play these playoffs/play-in for unknown reasons. These types of players really have to work on their pride management.

[wheelz1200]

The last thing the Lakers want is Wiggins for lebron.  If they would ever get rid of lebron is for picks, they need a rebuild if they are dumping Bron.  If that then AD goes to a contender with young talent to shed.  Young talent deep draft picks and free agency splash and they will be back to looking forward.  They need to do something, but Wiggins he'll nah.  It would have to be kuminga or Wiseman and some draft picks.

Lakers are already rebuilding since the last years of Kobe but they failed. They should not dump Lebron as this team will get nowhere. The Lakers are a total dump before Lebron arrived. They just need to tweak some things like the failure of Vogel to distribute a good playing time to his players. When Lebron is not playing, look how bad they are.

Lebron makes a lot of excuses, I thought he would be able to compete in this award but his team sucks, so he will just continue to achieve individual success while the impact on his team is not seen and felt.

Lebron did his best but his team really sucks. He is also not stat-padding as his usual average even before. Almost the entire of his teammates are not consistent. I can't say the reason is that they just allow Lebron to make players as to when he is not playing, they still trash even against a lower seed team.

Unfortunately that they didn't use Anthony Davis much this season because him being prone to injury. Kendrick Nunn also robbed them lol.

Everyone is blaming Vogel but I've been saying it from the start of the season they are too old.  Vogel had to deal with a crazy amount of injuries, not cause of mistyped playing time just cause they are old.  Give this garbage te to any coach and it will end up the same result.  Not saying Vogel shoukd stay but if that's their move to get a new coach then next year is an auto loss as well.  Id scrap it for a year and rebuild.  The great thing Lakers has is the ability to sign free agents, people want to play in LA.  So get the picks and young players you can clear your salary and wait for a new crop of free agents and hopefully land a star in the draft.  This team doesn't need tweaks it needs a makeover.

[Dave1]

^^ Well you can't blame someone who put some blame on Vogel. He is the anchor of the team so he has some liability as well as how the Lakers turn out to be this season.

I think this is one of Lebron's disappointing season as a player, too much hype and expectation on the team they build around him and Davis, but it sucks, lol. They are now back to the drawing board next season and maybe this will be his final run as a Laker.

[chaser15]

Everyone is blaming Vogel but I've been saying it from the start of the season they are too old.  Vogel had to deal with a crazy amount of injuries, not cause of mistyped playing time just cause they are old.  Give this garbage te to any coach and it will end up the same result.  Not saying Vogel shoukd stay but if that's their move to get a new coach then next year is an auto loss as well. 

I have to disagree with this. If this garbage will turn to any coach, some of them can at least make this team compete in the playoffs. Vogel is the one to blame for his incompetence and for not being able to fully utilize his players. Having old players is not the reason, to begin with. Vogel already handled old ones like Mcgee and was even had a chance to handle young players like Kuzma, Caruso, etc. but when these guys are playing during their time with the Lakers, Vogel sits them out mostly in the game. Look at how these players are being utilized on other teams since their respective coaches are giving them a chance to play more minutes.

As a coach, he needs to be the one that will inspire and give motivation to his players. Let's not make an excuse that Vogel had to deal with a crazy amount of injuries as look at the Warriors, their starters almost sit out half the season but still made it to no.2 on the standings.

[OgNasty]

^^ Well you can't blame someone who put some blame on Vogel. He is the anchor of the team so he has some liability as well as how the Lakers turn out to be this season.

I think this is one of Lebron's disappointing season as a player, too much hype and expectation on the team they build around him and Davis, but it sucks, lol. They are now back to the drawing board next season and maybe this will be his final run as a Laker.

I think Vogel should carry a lot of the blame. The minutes he was giving Dwight Howard made no sense all season. Benching Westbrook down the stretch to basically mentally torture the dude. Rob Pelinka should take some of the blame also. The Westbrook trade didn’t work out and the Nunn signing was a worst case scenario. LeBron had a great year. AD proved he can’t stay healthy. Carmelo did better than anyone thought he would. They just couldn’t get it together. Makes you think we should be sending the NBA champions to the Olympics instead of trying to throw a team together.

[dwyane36]

Everyone is blaming Vogel but I've been saying it from the start of the season they are too old.  Vogel had to deal with a crazy amount of injuries, not cause of mistyped playing time just cause they are old.  Give this garbage te to any coach and it will end up the same result.  Not saying Vogel shoukd stay but if that's their move to get a new coach then next year is an auto loss as well.  Id scrap it for a year and rebuild.  The great thing Lakers has is the ability to sign free agents, people want to play in LA.  So get the picks and young players you can clear your salary and wait for a new crop of free agents and hopefully land a star in the draft.  This team doesn't need tweaks it needs a makeover.

The disgusting results of the Lakers are the fault of both the players and the coach. However, I still think that Vogel has made a lot of controversial decisions throughout this season, and he has experimented too much with the starting lineup. As OgNasty said above, one of Vogel's mistakes is that he didn't use Howard's full potential while Davis was injured. It seems to me Howard could have been more productive and helpful to the team if Vogel had given him more minutes on the court.

[TravelMug]

^^ Well you can't blame someone who put some blame on Vogel. He is the anchor of the team so he has some liability as well as how the Lakers turn out to be this season.

I think this is one of Lebron's disappointing season as a player, too much hype and expectation on the team they build around him and Davis, but it sucks, lol. They are now back to the drawing board next season and maybe this will be his final run as a Laker.

I think Vogel should carry a lot of the blame. The minutes he was giving Dwight Howard made no sense all season. Benching Westbrook down the stretch to basically mentally torture the dude. Rob Pelinka should take some of the blame also. The Westbrook trade didn’t work out and the Nunn signing was a worst case scenario. LeBron had a great year. AD proved he can’t stay healthy. Carmelo did better than anyone thought he would. They just couldn’t get it together. Makes you think we should be sending the NBA champions to the Olympics instead of trying to throw a team together.

If we have to trace it, should be on Rob, he has put a team that didn't live up to the expectations. And to add to that, Vogel playing small and making Lebron play center? that's absolutely crazy. Nunn, Westbrook, Trevor Ariza, retaining THT. And yes it was a complete disaster, only James really played very well but he got injured.

[püsür]

I feel like it was just mere days ago that Cleveland Cavaliers were tied in the standings with Miami Heat. They have been doing quite bad in the last games. Of course things would be different if they had Jarrett Allen. But at least they have secured the 7-10 positions in the east and will go to the play-ons. Still, things not looking so hopeful for them.

On the Nets side, they had a nice win against a possible match-up in the play-ons. Durant had another solid night with 36 points. But also, I doubt that they can advance after 1 or 2 series in playoffs. They need something big for a big success. Let us see have they will do for the trades this summer. But for now, they need huge performances from Durant and Irving, and still it might not be enough.