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August 13, 2022, 10:37:03 AM
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And since they can't be simply be traded right away because the Nets wants more, and you can't blame them. Again, it boils down on the money they put in the line and they want something in return, like future draft picks, because that's what the lost as well when they sign the 2.

Money is not a problem since once Kevin Durant is traded, the contract offered by the Brooklyn Nets to him will be voided at some point.

The Nets is asking for a much good trading package because Durant is a big name and offering future draft picks can't satisfy them since, in the first place, they already gave up their future picks when they sign Durant and Irving.

As much as possible, they like a set of players that are as worthy as Durant's playing skills. But if they keep on insisting more, they will have a hard time trading him and they might end up a not worthy trade in return.

Seems like they still don't want to trade Durant as no team could match their demand, and what will happen is that Durant and Irving will stay, let's hope they will be the same and will not just play without passion. It's not a good situation for these two players who are actually no love anymore on the team.

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August 13, 2022, 10:41:07 AM
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And since they can't be simply be traded right away because the Nets wants more, and you can't blame them. Again, it boils down on the money they put in the line and they want something in return, like future draft picks, because that's what the lost as well when they sign the 2.

Money is not a problem since once Kevin Durant is traded, the contract offered by the Brooklyn Nets to him will be voided at some point.

The Nets is asking for a much good trading package because Durant is a big name and offering future draft picks can't satisfy them since, in the first place, they already gave up their future picks when they sign Durant and Irving.

As much as possible, they like a set of players that are as worthy as Durant's playing skills. But if they keep on insisting more, they will have a hard time trading him and they might end up a not worthy trade in return.

Seems like they still don't want to trade Durant as no team could match their demand, and what will happen is that Durant and Irving will stay, let's hope they will be the same and will not just play without passion. It's not a good situation for these two players who are actually no love anymore on the team.

It’s very hard to trade this super star duo because their demand is too huge while most of the team already build there own Ace player that has a potential to be a superstar in few years while Durant and Irving are already in the middle of there prime. I think the team than can acquire this players needs a package deal because the team need to fully commit on this trade and risk all there star player and picks just to make this possible.

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August 13, 2022, 11:00:36 AM
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And since they can't be simply be traded right away because the Nets wants more, and you can't blame them. Again, it boils down on the money they put in the line and they want something in return, like future draft picks, because that's what the lost as well when they sign the 2.

Money is not a problem since once Kevin Durant is traded, the contract offered by the Brooklyn Nets to him will be voided at some point.

The Nets is asking for a much good trading package because Durant is a big name and offering future draft picks can't satisfy them since, in the first place, they already gave up their future picks when they sign Durant and Irving.

As much as possible, they like a set of players that are as worthy as Durant's playing skills. But if they keep on insisting more, they will have a hard time trading him and they might end up a not worthy trade in return.

Seems like they still don't want to trade Durant as no team could match their demand, and what will happen is that Durant and Irving will stay, let's hope they will be the same and will not just play without passion. It's not a good situation for these two players who are actually no love anymore on the team.

They are willing if the team who wanted to receive Durant can give their demand and for sure it will be hard for any team since they are

asking too much. Durant is no longer in his prime and he is an injury prone star. It was the Net who gamble for him and now they wanted to have

Better exchange. Nothing can be accomplished if they will keep the high demand that they are asking, Durant will be stuck with the Nets

and he needs to play.
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August 13, 2022, 11:21:38 AM
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And since they can't be simply be traded right away because the Nets wants more, and you can't blame them. Again, it boils down on the money they put in the line and they want something in return, like future draft picks, because that's what the lost as well when they sign the 2.

Money is not a problem since once Kevin Durant is traded, the contract offered by the Brooklyn Nets to him will be voided at some point.

The Nets is asking for a much good trading package because Durant is a big name and offering future draft picks can't satisfy them since, in the first place, they already gave up their future picks when they sign Durant and Irving.

As much as possible, they like a set of players that are as worthy as Durant's playing skills. But if they keep on insisting more, they will have a hard time trading him and they might end up a not worthy trade in return.

Seems like they still don't want to trade Durant as no team could match their demand, and what will happen is that Durant and Irving will stay, let's hope they will be the same and will not just play without passion. It's not a good situation for these two players who are actually no love anymore on the team.

They are willing if the team who wanted to receive Durant can give their demand and for sure it will be hard for any team since they are

asking too much. Durant is no longer in his prime and he is an injury prone star. It was the Net who gamble for him and now they wanted to have

Better exchange. Nothing can be accomplished if they will keep the high demand that they are asking, Durant will be stuck with the Nets

and he needs to play.

Exactly, he is no longer on his prime and yet the Nets are still pricing him like he is a young superstar. They should consider that the risk is on them because if they will keep Durant that long and the team will continue to struggle, they are just burning their money since Durant will be paid no matter what.

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August 13, 2022, 11:29:59 AM
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Draymond Green doesn't have a lot of option and surely he doesn't have the power to demand the table and make the team offer him a max contract because he is not that kind of huge asset, he'll be lucky if the Warriors will still keep him despite his situation. He should know that he isn't like LBJ or CP3 who will be chased by any team because of the numbers they could bring in the team, Green is different because he is not a play maker.

Draymond Green obviously shouldn't be hoping that the Warriors or any other team will offer him a maximum contract. By the way, his current contract will expire after next season, and he will still have a player option for an extension until the end of the 23/24 season. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes this player option as it is unlikely that anyone will offer him a higher salary than $27,5 mln.

He's eligible for max contract and he's just trying to get what's best for his future because he is almost at the peak of his career. But actually in reality this one is little much not possible and maybe for this asking for getting huge contract mag cause for him to get departed on Warriors.

Hopefully he will not encounter the same faith with schroder which his career is questionable now in NBA.
Draymond is a huge asset to the warriors. His basketball IQ is off the charts. He plays excellent defense and really gets under opponents skin causing them to play bad. Warriors may not agree to a max contract but ill bet they offer him something he will accept. He's  too valuable to them.

It's undeniable that Draymond Green is really big asset to warriors because he help this team in many ways but the salary cap of warriors interfere this and for sure they cannot give what green ask because if they give what he ask to the team for sure the young core of GSW will get sacrifice also their future. So I think this is though decision to be made by them but I guess chances that they select their future is big rather than giving green what he ask.

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August 13, 2022, 11:31:43 AM
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Draymond Green doesn't have a lot of option and surely he doesn't have the power to demand the table and make the team offer him a max contract because he is not that kind of huge asset, he'll be lucky if the Warriors will still keep him despite his situation. He should know that he isn't like LBJ or CP3 who will be chased by any team because of the numbers they could bring in the team, Green is different because he is not a play maker.

Draymond Green obviously shouldn't be hoping that the Warriors or any other team will offer him a maximum contract. By the way, his current contract will expire after next season, and he will still have a player option for an extension until the end of the 23/24 season. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes this player option as it is unlikely that anyone will offer him a higher salary than $27,5 mln.

He's eligible for max contract and he's just trying to get what's best for his future because he is almost at the peak of his career. But actually in reality this one is little much not possible and maybe for this asking for getting huge contract mag cause for him to get departed on Warriors.

Hopefully he will not encounter the same faith with schroder which his career is questionable now in NBA.
Draymond is a huge asset to the warriors. His basketball IQ is off the charts. He plays excellent defense and really gets under opponents skin causing them to play bad. Warriors may not agree to a max contract but ill bet they offer him something he will accept. He's  too valuable to them.

It's undeniable that Draymond Green is really big asset to warriors because he help this team in many ways but the salary cap of warriors interfere this and for sure they cannot give what green ask because if they give what he ask to the team for sure the young core of GSW will get sacrifice also their future. So I think this is though decision to be made by them but I guess chances that they select their future is big rather than giving green what he ask.

They cannot give him a max salary but can give him a decent salary. Well, if Draymond Green feel like he is undervalued, he is free to sign with other team that could grant his wish, however, that doesn't guarantee that he will be as effective as he was with the Warriors.



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August 13, 2022, 01:27:57 PM
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And since they can't be simply be traded right away because the Nets wants more, and you can't blame them. Again, it boils down on the money they put in the line and they want something in return, like future draft picks, because that's what the lost as well when they sign the 2.

Money is not a problem since once Kevin Durant is traded, the contract offered by the Brooklyn Nets to him will be voided at some point.

The Nets is asking for a much good trading package because Durant is a big name and offering future draft picks can't satisfy them since, in the first place, they already gave up their future picks when they sign Durant and Irving.

As much as possible, they like a set of players that are as worthy as Durant's playing skills. But if they keep on insisting more, they will have a hard time trading him and they might end up a not worthy trade in return.

Seems like they still don't want to trade Durant as no team could match their demand, and what will happen is that Durant and Irving will stay, let's hope they will be the same and will not just play without passion. It's not a good situation for these two players who are actually no love anymore on the team.

I think there are teams that will bite on the trade, this is like the Ben Simmons trade, we think that no one will go, but then the Nets unfortunately, is wiling to get him in exchange of Harden. It could have been a bad decision for them as recently, there was leaked that he left their group chat and that Durant was disgusted that's why he reiterated that he wanted to be trade. But first we will have to see the new season with him with the Nets first and then eventually got traded later as teams might want to see how Durant is, if he is still on his prime or not.
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I'm just browsing in Facebook minutes ago and I saw this report that Kyrie doesn't want to play more than 60 games per season and can sit back-to-back games. I don't know if this is true but here is the link and you'll be the one to decide. LINK
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Kyrie Irving reportedly sought contractual guarantees that he wouldn't have to make more than 60 appearances per season and could skip back-to-back games as part of his extension talks with the Brooklyn Nets.
Fox Sports' Ric Bucher reported details about the negotiations Wednesday on his On The Ball podcast (via HoopsHype).
"[Nets governor] Joe Tsai has already shown he's willing to play hardball with Kyrie by taking a max extension off the table almost immediately," Bucher said. "Now, part of that may be Kyrie's doing. I'm told he wanted his new contract to guarantee he wouldn't have to play more than 60 games in a season and would not have to play any back-to-backs, which he apparently referred to as inhumane."
What are your thoughts about this one? When I saw this, I was like "WTF?" Looks like the Nets got 2 all-star players which has more authority than the management themselves. Cheesy
I absolutely want to avoid this discussion about those two Nets stars but they can really get to your nerve sometimes that you need to release you emotions.  Cheesy
If they will let this happen then it's not just soft NBA anymore but team management became soft too.
Players now are demanding too much like their salaries are too cheap. They are being paid multi-millions of dollars and yet they can still make dramatic demands like this one.
No back-to-back games? Wow. I want to find out what kind of drug they are taking and why it is not being traced by the health department of the NBA.
Yeah you know what I feel Cheesy. I, myself don't want to say anything to these 2 all-stars but they really are getting into my nerves and in my timeline in Facebook. Whenever I browse anything related to NBA, they are the ones who will pop up as long as there are news that is related to the Nets. They are being paid and yet they are the ones who are very demanding. I just hope that the NBA will not allow players to just do things like this. They demand too much that they are the ones who are benefitting but the team aren't at all or maybe that is how much they don't want to play with the team to the point that they will demand everything just to push the Nets to trade both of them. With the behavior these 2 players are, I think it would be beneficial for the team if they will just trade these 2 and just rebuild again.

These two have started to think that they are everything in this team. Thus, they are trying to do whatever they want. But that should not be the case. Right now I think it’s going to be better if the team just gives up any hope about them and tries to rebuild as you said. The players also know what they are doing is forcing the team to trade them, and that is probably what they want.

Anyway, the relationship between the players and the team is quite toxic at the moment. Even if they end up staying on the team, I do not think this is going to be helpful for both parties in the long run.


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Draymond Green doesn't have a lot of option and surely he doesn't have the power to demand the table and make the team offer him a max contract because he is not that kind of huge asset, he'll be lucky if the Warriors will still keep him despite his situation. He should know that he isn't like LBJ or CP3 who will be chased by any team because of the numbers they could bring in the team, Green is different because he is not a play maker.

Draymond Green obviously shouldn't be hoping that the Warriors or any other team will offer him a maximum contract. By the way, his current contract will expire after next season, and he will still have a player option for an extension until the end of the 23/24 season. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes this player option as it is unlikely that anyone will offer him a higher salary than $27,5 mln.

He's eligible for max contract and he's just trying to get what's best for his future because he is almost at the peak of his career. But actually in reality this one is little much not possible and maybe for this asking for getting huge contract mag cause for him to get departed on Warriors.

Hopefully he will not encounter the same faith with schroder which his career is questionable now in NBA.
Draymond is a huge asset to the warriors. His basketball IQ is off the charts. He plays excellent defense and really gets under opponents skin causing them to play bad. Warriors may not agree to a max contract but ill bet they offer him something he will accept. He's  too valuable to them.

It's undeniable that Draymond Green is really big asset to warriors because he help this team in many ways but the salary cap of warriors interfere this and for sure they cannot give what green ask because if they give what he ask to the team for sure the young core of GSW will get sacrifice also their future. So I think this is though decision to be made by them but I guess chances that they select their future is big rather than giving green what he ask.
I'm not sure the warriors owner or GM cares about the salary cap. They were over the cap this year and paid the luxury tax I believe. It's really just a matter of do they value Draymond and I think they do.

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Exactly, he is no longer on his prime and yet the Nets are still pricing him like he is a young superstar. They should consider that the risk is on them because if they will keep Durant that long and the team will continue to struggle, they are just burning their money since Durant will be paid no matter what.

Kevin Durant might not be in his prime now but he's still averaging stats like he's in prime. He can still be considered one of the great assets of any team. The Nets just like to maximize the possible good trade package they can get that's why it's hard to just accept deals from other teams. Yes, they are almost close to dealing with some teams but their additional request makes it not possible to make it officially.

Durant should just wait. He created this mess so better prepare for some things that might end up not favored to him.

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It's undeniable that Draymond Green is really big asset to warriors because he help this team in many ways but the salary cap of warriors interfere this and for sure they cannot give what green ask because if they give what he ask to the team for sure the young core of GSW will get sacrifice also their future. So I think this is though decision to be made by them but I guess chances that they select their future is big rather than giving green what he ask.

Draymond Green is only effective if the Splash Brothers are playing alongside him.

For some reason, his skills and talent just show up once he is paired with Steph and Klay. During the time Steph and Klay are out for long, Draymond Green was unable to release his usual performance. It shows that D. Green is depending on something before he can activate his effectiveness to the team.

D. Green should just be thankful for that. Demanding is good but there should be a limit and considerations.

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Exactly, he is no longer on his prime and yet the Nets are still pricing him like he is a young superstar. They should consider that the risk is on them because if they will keep Durant that long and the team will continue to struggle, they are just burning their money since Durant will be paid no matter what.

Kevin Durant might not be in his prime now but he's still averaging stats like he's in prime. He can still be considered one of the great assets of any team. The Nets just like to maximize the possible good trade package they can get that's why it's hard to just accept deals from other teams. Yes, they are almost close to dealing with some teams but their additional request makes it not possible to make it officially.

Durant should just wait. He created this mess so better prepare for some things that might end up not favored to him.
If he will play in the same rhythm, KD can still give decent stats, still one of the top caliber star that exist.

Though he messed it up with his current team and the deal might extent him to Nets uniform
he needs to be patient waiting for the next move, maybe the management will let him go knowing
that he is no longer interested in playing with them. Negotiation will continue to the team who are
showing interest in acquiring KD.
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Though he messed it up with his current team and the deal might extent him to Nets uniform
he needs to be patient waiting for the next move, maybe the management will let him go knowing
that he is no longer interested in playing with them. Negotiation will continue to the team who are
showing interest in acquiring KD.

Brooklyn Nets are surely doing their best to get rid of Kevin Durant. It's hard to keep that player if the seriousness to play for them is already not there. Not just that but Durant also wants to get rid of Steve Nash which requires a sensitive discussion and proper responses by the management.

It's better to keep the coaching position to Steven Nash and let Kevin Durant be traded to other teams. There is no way Durant will be serious about winning on this team as the damage is already there. His teammates too might not be comfortable now to play with him.
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Rumors has it that Miami Heat will be retiring Lebron James jersey number 6 in their home. Yes, that's because no one else can use the number in the future after the NBA decides to retire the jersey number 6 to all teams of the NBA. Miami Heat seems like they have not much of a choice but just have to do it and be on the trend.
I am not opposed to it but if the purpose was out of respect, it could have been done a long time ago and not because an event happened and they are forced to decide.
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"Brooklyn Nets reportedly asked for Jaylen Brown AND Jayson Tatum for Kevin Durant. " Most celtics fans already hated the previous report of Jaylen Brown + picks for Kevin Durant and with these recent reports. I'd say if it goes through, there'll be riots across Boston. Seems very unlikely that this goes through.

It will be a bad trade for the Celtics if it will include Tatum. He is the franchise player, not Brown not Marcus Smart. So it they bite on the Nets request, it will really be a disaster for them. They have found the right combinations already, including the coach, they've reach the finals and almost had a coach chance to win the championship. I'd say forget about that deal, let their team go to another season intact and see if they can go as far as the finals again and maybe won the ring this time.

I couldn't agree more! They should forget about this deal and forget the thought of acquiring Durant in their roster because that will be just a disaster for their team, they should just focus on what they have now because they are now an experienced team as they managed to have an appearance in the Finals against GSW. I bet they will be much more stronger than any team because of that, they just need more push and exposure to be one of the finest team in the league.

I also have that same opinion about Celtics, they don't need KD, the only thing that they needed to do is to continue doing more progress

with their system, they've made it to the finals last season the players deserves kudos for doing their roles and now they will again try to

push for another shot in chasing the world title, having KD and breaking the good chemistry might not be a good idea for the Celtics' managements.


KD won't do any good for the team because I expect that the deal will mean that the Nets will have Smart and Brown, I don't think that they will just go and grab one player from the Celtics in exchange for Durant, right? So in short, the Celtics will not be the same anymore and that means that they will start from scratch again and might find themselves hanging when Durant starts to make trade request next season if the team won't work-out.

The Celtics would be betting on Tatum and Durant being such a good pair that they don’t need the rest of their core team. I’m sure the pairing of those two would bring in all the ring chaser veteran free agents as well. Personally, I think Durant is going to destroy any team he’s on and set them back 5 years on building out their roster. Durant is great, but I think he’s a risk. I wouldn’t trade for him. He’s a great free agent signing.

I really agree! Durant is undoubtedly a great player but there's something on him that will make any team he's on to suffer, well, except when he's still at the Warriors because there's a lot of other players there who's also a play maker and that team can still stand their ground without him playing.

Celtics shouldn't go blind at this because they will have another years of setbacks if they will get Durant in exchange of their proven and reliable players.

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August 13, 2022, 07:00:02 PM
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Draymond Green doesn't have a lot of option and surely he doesn't have the power to demand the table and make the team offer him a max contract because he is not that kind of huge asset, he'll be lucky if the Warriors will still keep him despite his situation. He should know that he isn't like LBJ or CP3 who will be chased by any team because of the numbers they could bring in the team, Green is different because he is not a play maker.

Draymond Green obviously shouldn't be hoping that the Warriors or any other team will offer him a maximum contract. By the way, his current contract will expire after next season, and he will still have a player option for an extension until the end of the 23/24 season. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes this player option as it is unlikely that anyone will offer him a higher salary than $27,5 mln.

Even that figure is a little bit high for Draymond Green now, I think that he'll only sell out to a $20-$25 Million annually for a 4-year extension and nothing more than that but that is if there's a team in the league right now who's willing to pay him that kind of amount. Nonetheless, Draymond still have a chance to prove his worthiness this coming season and I don't doubt that he'll push himself more to produce more so that he'll end up getting an extension at the end of the 22-23 season.

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August 13, 2022, 08:33:51 PM
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Sooner or later the NBA commissioner will have to do something about it. He said publicly that he doesn't want how Durant demanding a trade after signing a huge contract. Sooner or later we will see some rule change, at least to have team owners get a better deal when they sign this kind of players.

And since they can't be simply be traded right away because the Nets wants more, and you can't blame them. Again, it boils down on the money they put in the line and they want something in return, like future draft picks, because that's what the lost as well when they sign the 2.
I do not think that there is a need for a rule change at all. I believe that we shouldn't really meddle with the teams inner works and let them do whatever they want with players. If a team could trade a player away without asking permission from the player, then I am sorry but a player should be able to get a trade from the team at the same time.

Let's assume that Nets got an offer a year ago, like something so special that it was amazing, picks and all-star players and everything, people thought that other team was idiot for offering, would Nets not be able to take that deal? Even if Durant wanted to stay? Of course they would have taken the deal. So if teams can trade players away, then players should be able to go away if they want to as well.
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August 13, 2022, 09:15:59 PM
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I'm not sure the warriors owner or GM cares about the salary cap. They were over the cap this year and paid the luxury tax I believe. It's really just a matter of do they value Draymond and I think they do.

Maybe the Warriors value Green, but I doubt they will ever be ready to offer him a max contract. Honestly, I don't know exactly how much the Warriors paid the luxury tax this time. However, if the Warriors' owner and management hadn't really cared about the salary cap, they would've tried to keep the entire championship roster by satisfying the requests of some of the players who already left the team during this offseason.

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August 13, 2022, 09:20:44 PM
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Draymond Green doesn't have a lot of option and surely he doesn't have the power to demand the table and make the team offer him a max contract because he is not that kind of huge asset, he'll be lucky if the Warriors will still keep him despite his situation. He should know that he isn't like LBJ or CP3 who will be chased by any team because of the numbers they could bring in the team, Green is different because he is not a play maker.

Draymond Green obviously shouldn't be hoping that the Warriors or any other team will offer him a maximum contract. By the way, his current contract will expire after next season, and he will still have a player option for an extension until the end of the 23/24 season. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes this player option as it is unlikely that anyone will offer him a higher salary than $27,5 mln.

Even that figure is a little bit high for Draymond Green now, I think that he'll only sell out to a $20-$25 Million annually for a 4-year extension and nothing more than that but that is if there's a team in the league right now who's willing to pay him that kind of amount. Nonetheless, Draymond still have a chance to prove his worthiness this coming season and I don't doubt that he'll push himself more to produce more so that he'll end up getting an extension at the end of the 22-23 season.

Yeah, about $20-$25 million is not that bad for a extension on Green's level. We know that he is not that young anymore is prone to injury as we have seen last season. Yes, he is very much valuable as Steph and Thompson, but he also have to understand that they need a lot of good supporting and role players. So if he max out, maybe they can't get a decent one to help them with their runs and become one of the best dynasties in the last decade or so.
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August 13, 2022, 09:38:33 PM
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I'm not sure the warriors owner or GM cares about the salary cap. They were over the cap this year and paid the luxury tax I believe. It's really just a matter of do they value Draymond and I think they do.

Maybe the Warriors value Green, but I doubt they will ever be ready to offer him a max contract. Honestly, I don't know exactly how much the Warriors paid the luxury tax this time. However, if the Warriors' owner and management hadn't really cared about the salary cap, they would've tried to keep the entire championship roster by satisfying the requests of some of the players who already left the team during this offseason.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/cap/2021/ according to this site, the Warriors owe 170 million dollars for the luxury tax of 2021-2022 season. I'm not 100% sure if I am reading that correctly, but it looks correct.

They also are 71 million dollars over the salary cap for 2022-2023 season so far.

It's obvious they don't care a ton about money or they woulda broke off some pieces before last season started. As long as the team makes a profit on the season, the owner is gonna keep over spending IMO.

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