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October 23, 2022, 04:25:21 PM
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Of course, Jokic is a very valuable player, and the Nuggets management is well aware of that. As you probably know, the Nuggets agreed and signed a 5-year contract extension with him early in the offseason. So the Nuggets have already kept him for a long time since his current contract will only expire after the 27-28th season. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Jokic plays for the Nuggets his entire career.
Yeah, Actually Jokic is the most valuable player for in NBA right now since he is good on both offense and defense while he is still young,  The only reason why Nuggets still don’t get the championship or even close on WCF is because Jokic has no solid team mate that can cover him while he is resting. Nuggets play is centered to Jokic which is the reason why they are always being beaten by strong teams on playoffs but Aaron Gordon is now improving well and probably he will be one of the key player on Nuggets to help Jokic.

It will be a loss for Nuggets if they let Jokic be traded since they are the one who develop this player since his rookie days.
I have to say this is going to get me hated, but I find Jokic to be a bit overrated. Yes dude has good stats that's for sure, but he is a slow center that doesn't really have that much skill at scoring if you ask me, he is using what he has right now but when he gets older, his passing will be the only thing left for him to do, his scoring will drop a whole ton, and his style is not going to age that well.

I feel like Embiid is better, because he has the strength and fighting spirit that Jokic doesn't have. Smart players are valuable and Jokic is smart, but he is not going to be great for too many years, just 2 more years and we will see a steep decline for him if you ask me.
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October 23, 2022, 05:26:31 PM
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He is just 27 right now, unless he gets injured that will heavily affect his game, I think he will break that record. We will see how far his duo with Jammal Murray will take them. I hope they won't end up like Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert that got disbanded without anything to show off. We saw last year that even without Jammal, Jokic was still able to carry the team into playoffs. Jammal now just has to get back his rhythm and chemistry with the team and they can shoot for at least WCF. I know they can because they have enough experience to at least get that far.
Yeah, that was a hell of a ride for Gobert and Mitchell and yet they didn't achieve the goal that the Jazz is trying to achieve.

Yes, that chemistry didn't work, we may have to point it to either one of them, but now they are no longer team mates so we will see how they will do in their new teams. And so far they are doing good.

The good part about the Nuggets is it's not just Jamal Murray and Jokic anymore, there's a rising star in their midst Michael Porter Jr.
His "back injury" really made a number on his rising career but he has returned and it's looking better.
5 of 10 in the three-point line against the Warriors.
Repeated it against the Thunder with 5 of 10 too.
IMO, that's a good sign as Jokic will now have different options to pass the ball to.

Yes, initially we were wondering what happen to Porter Jr early last season because his numbers suddenly drop, but now it was due to his back injury. So hopefully he is back 100% healthy and so is Jamal Murray. That is already a version of Nuggets big 3 and then they have Gordon as well.
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October 23, 2022, 06:39:51 PM
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Of course, Jokic is a very valuable player, and the Nuggets management is well aware of that. As you probably know, the Nuggets agreed and signed a 5-year contract extension with him early in the offseason. So the Nuggets have already kept him for a long time since his current contract will only expire after the 27-28th season. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Jokic plays for the Nuggets his entire career.
Yeah, Actually Jokic is the most valuable player for in NBA right now since he is good on both offense and defense while he is still young,  The only reason why Nuggets still don’t get the championship or even close on WCF is because Jokic has no solid team mate that can cover him while he is resting. Nuggets play is centered to Jokic which is the reason why they are always being beaten by strong teams on playoffs but Aaron Gordon is now improving well and probably he will be one of the key player on Nuggets to help Jokic.
It will be a loss for Nuggets if they let Jokic be traded since they are the one who develop this player since his rookie days.
I have to say this is going to get me hated, but I find Jokic to be a bit overrated. Yes dude has good stats that's for sure, but he is a slow center that doesn't really have that much skill at scoring if you ask me, he is using what he has right now but when he gets older, his passing will be the only thing left for him to do, his scoring will drop a whole ton, and his style is not going to age that well.
I feel like Embiid is better, because he has the strength and fighting spirit that Jokic doesn't have. Smart players are valuable and Jokic is smart, but he is not going to be great for too many years, just 2 more years and we will see a steep decline for him if you ask me.

I don't think that Jokic is overrated.
After all, I think that he is one of the key players for the Nuggets, and that is the case for the time being.
The whole Nuggets squad is built up around him but the sad part is that they don't have a decent replacement for him so that he can get some rest.

Averaging over 25 points, 7 to 8 assists, and 10 rebounds per game are all very encouraging statistics for a player of his caliber and a member of the Nuggets team who has been in good form for the past few seasons. As a Nuggets fan, I only hope that his burden will be somewhat lessened by the purchase of another player in his position by the Nuggets. This will enable him to enjoy a decent amount of rest during the games.

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October 23, 2022, 07:24:06 PM
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Here is the result of my picks yesterday,

Orlando Magic VS Boston Celtics SCORE 120 - 126 - WIN

It was a close game at 1st but when the 2nd half commence the Boston Celtics slowly gained the upper hand over Wendell Carter Jr. did a great job, doing a double-double performance of 12 rebounds and 15 points, Paolo Banchero is an amazing rookie getting 23 points and Terrence Ross that got 29 points, but it was not enough because the Celtics Derrick White got 27 points, and Jayson Tatum really blew it this time getting 40 massive points in blowing a win against the Magic,

Indiana Pacers VS Detroit Pistons SCORE 124 - 115 - LOST

I really thought that the Pistons will win this game it was a close game for me and the stats of the Piston's players were also amazing, Saddiq Bey, Isaiah Stewart, and Jaden Ivey all get double-double performances, but it was not enough because Goga Bitadze, Jalen Smith and Tyrese Haliburton, all got a double-double performance as well, that is why the Indiana Pacers won, because of great performance,  

Miami Heat VS Toronto Raptors SCORE 112 - 109 - WIN

Miami really did the job done themselves, Raptors team rallied towards winning but the Miami Heat was one step further, in winning the game against the Raptors,

Denver Nuggets VS Oklahoma City Thunder SCORE 122 - 117 - WIN

It was really much obvious who was going to win and that was the way the Denver Nuggets won,

Sacramento Kings VS Los Angeles Clippers SCORE 109 - 111 - WIN

Last but not the list, it was an obvious choice that the Sacramento Kings, having quite great players the Los Angeles won this game against the Sacramento Kings,
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October 23, 2022, 07:50:38 PM
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That's the deterrent for most of these stars including him, having an injury. We saw it happen in many of them and how they're able to get back hard after their recovery. These two got no superstars but doing great jobs on their respective teams.
Ja morant is a good player I am not against that, but people are overreacting on his good moves, and yes he is scoring a lot of points and he is playing well but that's a game that could be locked down easily with some good defense, a bit of zone on inside, some one step behind defending and you could lock him down on playoff games.

He needs to learn how to shoot threes a lot better to be a danger, nobody can defend Lebron like that, because even though he is a freight train when he wants to go in, and even at his age he dunks over people, he could also still kill you inside if he leave him open. Ja doesn't have that yet, and he needs to improve it asap if he wants to be a superstar.
I am not overreacting to him, he made 49 points in that game and that should be it. How often do we see players make that much score when they're not in a superteam unlike the other teams in the NBA? The boy is improving his threes and if it keeps on happening like that, for sure that there's something that will change the fate of his team. Well, we can say about such defense and offense in terms of words but when you're inside in the actual words, things will change and escalate quickly.

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October 23, 2022, 09:06:26 PM
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Of course, Jokic is a very valuable player, and the Nuggets management is well aware of that. As you probably know, the Nuggets agreed and signed a 5-year contract extension with him early in the offseason. So the Nuggets have already kept him for a long time since his current contract will only expire after the 27-28th season. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Jokic plays for the Nuggets his entire career.
Yeah, Actually Jokic is the most valuable player for in NBA right now since he is good on both offense and defense while he is still young,  The only reason why Nuggets still don’t get the championship or even close on WCF is because Jokic has no solid team mate that can cover him while he is resting. Nuggets play is centered to Jokic which is the reason why they are always being beaten by strong teams on playoffs but Aaron Gordon is now improving well and probably he will be one of the key player on Nuggets to help Jokic.
It will be a loss for Nuggets if they let Jokic be traded since they are the one who develop this player since his rookie days.
I have to say this is going to get me hated, but I find Jokic to be a bit overrated. Yes dude has good stats that's for sure, but he is a slow center that doesn't really have that much skill at scoring if you ask me, he is using what he has right now but when he gets older, his passing will be the only thing left for him to do, his scoring will drop a whole ton, and his style is not going to age that well.
I feel like Embiid is better, because he has the strength and fighting spirit that Jokic doesn't have. Smart players are valuable and Jokic is smart, but he is not going to be great for too many years, just 2 more years and we will see a steep decline for him if you ask me.
I don't think that Jokic is overrated.
After all, I think that he is one of the key players for the Nuggets, and that is the case for the time being.
The whole Nuggets squad is built up around him but the sad part is that they don't have a decent replacement for him so that he can get some rest.

Averaging over 25 points, 7 to 8 assists, and 10 rebounds per game are all very encouraging statistics for a player of his caliber and a member of the Nuggets team who has been in good form for the past few seasons. As a Nuggets fan, I only hope that his burden will be somewhat lessened by the purchase of another player in his position by the Nuggets. This will enable him to enjoy a decent amount of rest during the games.

Jokic is an insane player. But is he overrated or not? That's another story.

Jokic is a talented player and he can provide really effective stability in the attacking phase. If you look at his stats, you can tell that he is a really capable player and that his passing is one of the most accurate in the league right now.

But when it comes to defending, I cannot say that he is insanely competent. Now I know that Jokic has won the MVP award two times back to back. But still, I don't feel he is a really good player when it comes to defending.

A simple conclusion. Looking at what he is doing in the attacking position at the moment, I have to believe he is one of the finest. But when it comes to defending I think he is a little overrated.

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October 23, 2022, 09:41:25 PM
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I have to say this is going to get me hated, but I find Jokic to be a bit overrated. Yes dude has good stats that's for sure, but he is a slow center that doesn't really have that much skill at scoring if you ask me, he is using what he has right now but when he gets older, his passing will be the only thing left for him to do, his scoring will drop a whole ton, and his style is not going to age that well.

I feel like Embiid is better, because he has the strength and fighting spirit that Jokic doesn't have. Smart players are valuable and Jokic is smart, but he is not going to be great for too many years, just 2 more years and we will see a steep decline for him if you ask me.
Well, and I figured I was the only one to think that of Jokic.
I confess he's a good player, but sometimes I think he's overhated, he's a center with technique, but unfortunately he can't defend very well compared to other players in his position.

He is an extremely fundamental and important player for the Nuggets, but I also agree that over time his level may decrease, I'm not saying about his technique and vision of the game, but his strength, mobility, agility, physical attributes related to the player.

Let's see if he can maintain this consistency in a few seasons in the future!

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October 23, 2022, 09:59:02 PM
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I have to say this is going to get me hated, but I find Jokic to be a bit overrated. Yes dude has good stats that's for sure, but he is a slow center that doesn't really have that much skill at scoring if you ask me, he is using what he has right now but when he gets older, his passing will be the only thing left for him to do, his scoring will drop a whole ton, and his style is not going to age that well.

I feel like Embiid is better, because he has the strength and fighting spirit that Jokic doesn't have. Smart players are valuable and Jokic is smart, but he is not going to be great for too many years, just 2 more years and we will see a steep decline for him if you ask me.
Well, and I figured I was the only one to think that of Jokic.
I confess he's a good player, but sometimes I think he's overhated, he's a center with technique, but unfortunately he can't defend very well compared to other players in his position.

He is an extremely fundamental and important player for the Nuggets, but I also agree that over time his level may decrease, I'm not saying about his technique and vision of the game, but his strength, mobility, agility, physical attributes related to the player.

Let's see if he can maintain this consistency in a few seasons in the future!


Or he can be defended very well in the low post with players like Draymond Green. Green is not a pure center, but it seems that Jokic has problems with players defended him inside. There were times in their playoff series last year wherein Green just literally took the ball from the hands of Jokic when he tries to post up Green.

But I think he is a good player, not in the in caliber of Dirk yet as he hasn't won any ring. And maybe the "hate" steam from him as a center that is not athletic enough, if we look at previous centers that really dominated the game in their primes, Kareem, Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain and the last great center of them, Shaq can move very quick as compare to Jokic.

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October 23, 2022, 10:06:18 PM
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Jokic is an insane player. But is he overrated or not? That's another story.

Jokic is a talented player and he can provide really effective stability in the attacking phase. If you look at his stats, you can tell that he is a really capable player and that his passing is one of the most accurate in the league right now.

But when it comes to defending, I cannot say that he is insanely competent. Now I know that Jokic has won the MVP award two times back to back. But still, I don't feel he is a really good player when it comes to defending.

A simple conclusion. Looking at what he is doing in the attacking position at the moment, I have to believe he is one of the finest. But when it comes to defending I think he is a little overrated.
There are certain areas where players like him are good at and with what's he's got right now, there's still some room for improvement like the one that you've mentioned.

No doubt why he'd won the MVP and it could change for this season and it's just a matter of satisfaction whether we'll think of it as someone capable of this and that specifically.

But with what Nuggets now and having him is a really great asset for the team.

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October 23, 2022, 10:40:47 PM
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Of course, Jokic is a very valuable player, and the Nuggets management is well aware of that. As you probably know, the Nuggets agreed and signed a 5-year contract extension with him early in the offseason. So the Nuggets have already kept him for a long time since his current contract will only expire after the 27-28th season. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Jokic plays for the Nuggets his entire career.

Jokic already cemented his status as a franchise player for the Denver Nuggets. I'm sure that even with no championships, Jokic will retire in the Denver Nuggets jersey. I even think that once his current huge contract expires, he will still be offered a huge contract.

Even though not a fan of the Denver Nuggets, I hope he can taste being a champion. He's just 27 years old after all and has lots of time to precious his prime. The Nuggets should always try to surround him with good role players, especially their bench squad. If possible, they should also consider getting a considered big fish on the free agency if there's any.

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Good, that you pointed that Gordon is doing his best to help Jokic, but not only Gordon, both Porter and Murray are back in good shape for this season.

Gordon is not consistent even in his prime days in Orlando Magic. That's the reality that everyone should take note of. Don't expect much from this guy. He is good off-the-bench in a supporting role. The Nuggets need consistent players to support Nikola Jokic.

Porter and Murray are no doubt, good teammates for Jokic but they should try to keep healthy at all times. Jokic is not an injury-prone player that's why it's a waste of opportunity for him if his reliable teammates are being sidelines because of injuries.

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Lakers lose another close one to go to 0-3. Russell Westbrook still shooting terribly and costing them games down the stretch. LeBron put up 31 again on his quest to become the best scorer of all time. The star of the game though was Damian Lillard who got 41 points on 25 shots while carrying his team to a 2 point win over the Lakers. The Lakers really didn’t play bad. Even Westbrook didn’t turn the ball over. If he could just start making some shots they would be so much better…

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Lakers lose another close one to go to 0-3. Russell Westbrook still shooting terribly and costing them games down the stretch. LeBron put up 31 again on his quest to become the best scorer of all time. The star of the game though was Damian Lillard who got 41 points on 25 shots while carrying his team to a 2 point win over the Lakers. The Lakers really didn’t play bad. Even Westbrook didn’t turn the ball over. If he could just start making some shots they would be so much better…
4/15 shooting for Westbrook. He is considered one of the players that will help Lebron get W's, but this is how he is playing. So unreliable if you will ask me.

Now they tied with the Philly that has 0-3. The teams that we are expecting to be at the top are now the teams that are at the bottom and still no wins and on the other hand, the teams that we aren't expecting to be on the top are the ones that are the top right now. Talking about Portland and the Utah Jazz.

The first 3 games of Westbrook are very disappointing. Many are expecting some changes with how he is playing, but it looks like nothing changed. Maybe it's too early to judge some might say, but the Lakers will not enter the playoffs if he will continue to play like that. Their roster right now is very different from what it was when they won a title. That roster is way better than it is right now so aside from Westbrook, other players must step up on their performance every night.

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Or he can be defended very well in the low post with players like Draymond Green. Green is not a pure center, but it seems that Jokic has problems with players defended him inside. There were times in their playoff series last year wherein Green just literally took the ball from the hands of Jokic when he tries to post up Green.

But I think he is a good player, not in the in caliber of Dirk yet as he hasn't won any ring. And maybe the "hate" steam from him as a center that is not athletic enough, if we look at previous centers that really dominated the game in their primes, Kareem, Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain and the last great center of them, Shaq can move very quick as compare to Jokic.
Yes this is true. Green is not a center, but a PF. One of his main characteristics is the defense, because he defends very well
I could compare him with Rodman, (of course not in the same proportion), but in terms of defense.

Compared to NBA players past and present. The style of plays is totally different, today we have PF, C, which has a high ball control and some are 3 point shoot.

Jokic has a lot of technique, that's undeniable, but in terms of strength, dominance, and defense he lacks these attributes

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Lakers lose another close one to go to 0-3. Russell Westbrook still shooting terribly and costing them games down the stretch. LeBron put up 31 again on his quest to become the best scorer of all time. The star of the game though was Damian Lillard who got 41 points on 25 shots while carrying his team to a 2 point win over the Lakers. The Lakers really didn’t play bad. Even Westbrook didn’t turn the ball over. If he could just start making some shots they would be so much better…
4/15 shooting for Westbrook. He is considered one of the players that will help Lebron get W's, but this is how he is playing. So unreliable if you will ask me.
Forget about making shots or his shooting percentage. He's suppose to play smart as a point guard but look at how he didn't run the clock in the final seconds of the game while they are leading by 1 point.

24 seconds shot clock but he took a jumper with 18 seconds left. There was nobody positioned to take an offensive rebound.

It's not only a bad shooting night for him. It's also bad decision making.

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October 24, 2022, 03:49:03 AM
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Yes this is true. Green is not a center, but a PF. One of his main characteristics is the defense, because he defends very well
I could compare him with Rodman, (of course not in the same proportion), but in terms of defense.

Compared to NBA players past and present. The style of plays is totally different, today we have PF, C, which has a high ball control and some are 3 point shoot.

Jokic has a lot of technique, that's undeniable, but in terms of strength, dominance, and defense he lacks these attributes
Players varies in their won style of game and technique, like Dreymond Green had some defend techniques which sometimes helped him in games but he's still not center, he's versatile and fit in any position at any given point in time. Jokic also taking similarities with Green but doesn't have strength and don't also defend like Green and let's not forget that they're both different interms of their qualities on the court. It's really scarce to see a complete player this present time but there still quite number of them and their team wouldn't want to let them go due to their performance and solid results for the team.

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October 24, 2022, 04:51:43 AM
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Now they tied with the Philly that has 0-3. The teams that we are expecting to be at the top are now the teams that are at the bottom and still no wins and on the other hand, the teams that we aren't expecting to be on the top are the ones that are the top right now. Talking about Portland and the Utah Jazz.

I never had any expectations for the Lakers since the get-go of this season. Their organization right now is in disarray and seems that they do not know what to do with their rosters. They acquired a lot of guards during the offseason but failed to trade Westbrook. Now they are full of guards that can't shoot. Then Lebron has to play point to because he has to chase those stats. Rob Pelinka has a lot to do but nothing seems to get done. It is still early in the season but unless they make a massive change in their roster, it will be a repeat of last season.

Forget about making shots or his shooting percentage. He's suppose to play smart as a point guard but look at how he didn't run the clock in the final seconds of the game while they are leading by 1 point.

24 seconds shot clock but he took a jumper with 18 seconds left. There was nobody positioned to take an offensive rebound.

It's not only a bad shooting night for him. It's also bad decision making.

And he will be crucified on social media because of that. But that is how all superstars are, they take shots even when they had a bad night. It is good that he is still confident to take shots but too bad it is a bad choice.
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October 24, 2022, 04:53:48 AM
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Lakers lose another close one to go to 0-3. Russell Westbrook still shooting terribly and costing them games down the stretch. LeBron put up 31 again on his quest to become the best scorer of all time. The star of the game though was Damian Lillard who got 41 points on 25 shots while carrying his team to a 2 point win over the Lakers. The Lakers really didn’t play bad. Even Westbrook didn’t turn the ball over. If he could just start making some shots they would be so much better…
4/15 shooting for Westbrook. He is considered one of the players that will help Lebron get W's, but this is how he is playing. So unreliable if you will ask me.
Forget about making shots or his shooting percentage. He's suppose to play smart as a point guard but look at how he didn't run the clock in the final seconds of the game while they are leading by 1 point.

24 seconds shot clock but he took a jumper with 18 seconds left. There was nobody positioned to take an offensive rebound.

It's not only a bad shooting night for him. It's also bad decision making.

Noticing that worse mistake while both your stars are trying to do everything to secure the win,

I mean, both LeBron and Davis are really trying to win this game in front of Lakers fans, but that shot coming from Westbrook,
is something that he should think twice, better to give the ball to LeBron and allow him to decide instead of taking that shot
without anyone inside to fight for the offensive rebound.
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October 24, 2022, 05:43:37 AM
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Was happy with the play of the Knicks last night.  Blow out pretty much all the way through.  The best part was the second unit looked real strong.  Was worried about their depth but they shoukd be getting back q grimes soon too.  

Also watched end to end the den gs game.  Impressed with Denver grit.  Tough to take on gs in theor building, jokic is just unreal.  Think it will be a race between him and doncic for mvp this year.  Them dudes are just crazy good.

I just seeing the matches highlights,
The Knicks had quite easy outing against the Pistons. I also agree that this was quite a blowout from the Knicks. And looking at this match I don't think they will have to worry too much about the depth of the team.

Jokic was the most important player in this match for the Denver nuggets. They also played quite well as a team. But Jokic was really unbelievable with his 12 rebounds and 26 points. Porter jr and Brown also made some important contributions in that match and eventually the performance from the Denver Nuggets was enough to win against the Warriors.

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October 24, 2022, 06:58:42 AM
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Lakers lose another close one to go to 0-3. Russell Westbrook still shooting terribly and costing them games down the stretch. LeBron put up 31 again on his quest to become the best scorer of all time. The star of the game though was Damian Lillard who got 41 points on 25 shots while carrying his team to a 2 point win over the Lakers. The Lakers really didn’t play bad. Even Westbrook didn’t turn the ball over. If he could just start making some shots they would be so much better…

What a game for Dame Lillard hitting that Dame time 3 to take the lead.
While the Lakers continue to struggle offensively.
I have to agree that the Lakers is not really playing bad defensively, they just can't shoot. They might be under heavy pressure now and they can't shake off the bad start and continue missing shots, particularly the 3pt fg.
The next 7 opponent for the Lakers are also a tough teams. If they can't find a way to adjust their game and start winning, I'm afraid they'll start with 0-10.

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