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October 27, 2022, 08:57:24 AM
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While the Lakers continue to struggle and I guess this could go on to 0-10 as they all have a tougher opponent in thier first 10 games lol.

I bet on the Lakers today thinking they are gonna play hard, but it's still the same, this team has no hope, with or without Westbrook they still continue to struggle. I think Lebron is not anymore the king because he cannot anymore carry his team.  Grin

Yeah, and I thought that same, they have reported that Westbrook will not play, so we assumed that something different is going to happen. But nothing, just the usual Lakers who just didn't have what it takes to have a win. Although their opponent is a tough team, but still at least they should make it close.

Another huge game by Giannis to lead the Bucks against the struggling Nets team. 43 points for him and 14 rebounds.
Bobby Portis also had a double double with 20 points and 11 rebounds. And obviously, its KD and Kyrie who carry the Nets but it's not enough.

The nets also are the same team, they can't finish the game with a win, also, I notice about Durant's Shooting, he is not as good as During his prime, probably because he was really affected by his previous injury. Durant scored 33 points but he was -17, which means his impact does not help the team much. Also, the Nets lose their aggressiveness in grabbing the ball as they are outrebounded by the Bucks. 54-37, big difference.

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October 27, 2022, 09:11:02 AM
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While the Lakers continue to struggle and I guess this could go on to 0-10 as they all have a tougher opponent in thier first 10 games lol.

I bet on the Lakers today thinking they are gonna play hard, but it's still the same, this team has no hope, with or without Westbrook they still continue to struggle. I think Lebron is not anymore the king because he cannot anymore carry his team.  Grin

Yeah, and I thought that same, they have reported that Westbrook will not play, so we assumed that something different is going to happen. But nothing, just the usual Lakers who just didn't have what it takes to have a win. Although their opponent is a tough team, but still at least they should make it close.

Another huge game by Giannis to lead the Bucks against the struggling Nets team. 43 points for him and 14 rebounds.
Bobby Portis also had a double double with 20 points and 11 rebounds. And obviously, its KD and Kyrie who carry the Nets but it's not enough.

The nets also are the same team, they can't finish the game with a win, also, I notice about Durant's Shooting, he is not as good as During his prime, probably because he was really affected by his previous injury. Durant scored 33 points but he was -17, which means his impact does not help the team much. Also, the Nets lose their aggressiveness in grabbing the ball as they are outrebounded by the Bucks. 54-37, big difference.

They are much dominated by Bucks that's why maybe there's an effect on mental toughness especially with Simmons so they really need to figure out the problem because looking at their rooster they already have solid rooster already its just they need to make this work together and they need chemistry also with consistency.

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October 27, 2022, 09:21:19 AM
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The Brooklyn Nets lost against the Memphis Grizzlies.
Desmond Bane is the guy who did most of the damage, especially in the 2nd half where he made 32 points while Ja Morant never stops to amaze his fans with 38 points and 4/6 from downtown.
He's doing better in shooting threes than the previous year. Defenders cannot just leave him alone behind the arc.
I am really sad for Ben Simmons, I think the officials are targeting him. The 5th foul was questionable already and he just spent 1 minute in the game then the 6th foul happened which made Coach Nash furious.  Grin
Good sportsmanship from Kyrie after the game.


The Brooklyn Nets haven't started well into the league this year, either. To be honest Memphis is a good team, Ja Morant and Bane's performance was pretty good. I think it's one of the best playing teams of the year. But the Brooklyn Nets also have a pretty good roster. Despite this, I think it's a bit sad that they are losing the match, actually Irving and Durant are playing very well, but these performances are not enough to win the match Smiley

If you look closely, the Memphis Grizzlies players doesn't rely heavily on their star players and as you can see, most of them can score double digits especially Morant and Bane that is why they can easily deliver their team to a win. While the Nets situation is a bit different, yes, they got a good roster but only KD and Irving are mostly driving the ball and the ones who contribute mostly for the team. Anyway, the season have just started, we will see a lot of improvement soon.
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October 27, 2022, 09:25:15 AM
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While the Lakers continue to struggle and I guess this could go on to 0-10 as they all have a tougher opponent in thier first 10 games lol.

I bet on the Lakers today thinking they are gonna play hard, but it's still the same, this team has no hope, with or without Westbrook they still continue to struggle. I think Lebron is not anymore the king because he cannot anymore carry his team.  Grin

Yeah, and I thought that same, they have reported that Westbrook will not play, so we assumed that something different is going to happen. But nothing, just the usual Lakers who just didn't have what it takes to have a win. Although their opponent is a tough team, but still at least they should make it close.

Another huge game by Giannis to lead the Bucks against the struggling Nets team. 43 points for him and 14 rebounds.
Bobby Portis also had a double double with 20 points and 11 rebounds. And obviously, its KD and Kyrie who carry the Nets but it's not enough.

The nets also are the same team, they can't finish the game with a win, also, I notice about Durant's Shooting, he is not as good as During his prime, probably because he was really affected by his previous injury. Durant scored 33 points but he was -17, which means his impact does not help the team much. Also, the Nets lose their aggressiveness in grabbing the ball as they are outrebounded by the Bucks. 54-37, big difference.

They are much dominated by Bucks that's why maybe there's an effect on mental toughness especially with Simmons so they really need to figure out the problem because looking at their rooster they already have solid rooster already its just they need to make this work together and they need chemistry also with consistency.

I almost forgot, yeah, Simmons is considered a star player as he was traded for James Harden, but look at his performance, he was even worse that Russell Westbrook of the LA Lakers. Simmons played 34 points but only made 4 points, I get that he had 9 assists but the Nets really needs to spread their offense, and not rely on Durant and Irving only.

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October 27, 2022, 09:45:54 AM
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With or without Russ , Lakers still lost so I don't think the problem is Russ and most likely the entire team has a problem and they don't want to play together anymore. But wait , they are not alone because 76ers are looking like Huston 3 years ago when Harder was trying to win games by himself and he is trying but he is trying alone ... . Anyway, I'm happy with my team Bulls with the W and Bucks gave no chance to Nets...another Lakers and 76ers story is happening there as well. Grin

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October 27, 2022, 09:51:46 AM
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With or without Russ , Lakers still lost so I don't think the problem is Russ and most likely the entire team has a problem and they don't want to play together anymore. But wait , they are not alone because 76ers are looking like Huston 3 years ago when Harder was trying to win games by himself and he is trying but he is trying alone ... . Anyway, I'm happy with my team Bulls with the W and Bucks gave no chance to Nets...another Lakers and 76ers story is happening there as well. Grin
Yeah, it's the whole team.

Sad to see that they have to struggle this early. It's now a serious matter that there should be some re-strategize that must be done or else, we'll just keep seeing them losing their next games.

Most fans are expecting them to go lowball and there's no retrieval from them anymore. But let's see if the next games will show some difference and if it will break their losing streak.

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October 27, 2022, 09:59:11 AM
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The Brooklyn Nets lost against the Memphis Grizzlies.
Desmond Bane is the guy who did most of the damage, especially in the 2nd half where he made 32 points while Ja Morant never stops to amaze his fans with 38 points and 4/6 from downtown.
He's doing better in shooting threes than the previous year. Defenders cannot just leave him alone behind the arc.
I am really sad for Ben Simmons, I think the officials are targeting him. The 5th foul was questionable already and he just spent 1 minute in the game then the 6th foul happened which made Coach Nash furious.  Grin
Good sportsmanship from Kyrie after the game.


The Brooklyn Nets haven't started well into the league this year, either. To be honest Memphis is a good team, Ja Morant and Bane's performance was pretty good. I think it's one of the best playing teams of the year. But the Brooklyn Nets also have a pretty good roster. Despite this, I think it's a bit sad that they are losing the match, actually Irving and Durant are playing very well, but these performances are not enough to win the match Smiley

If you look closely, the Memphis Grizzlies players doesn't rely heavily on their star players and as you can see, most of them can score double digits especially Morant and Bane that is why they can easily deliver their team to a win. While the Nets situation is a bit different, yes, they got a good roster but only KD and Irving are mostly driving the ball and the ones who contribute mostly for the team. Anyway, the season have just started, we will see a lot of improvement soon.

That's a good observation. Memphis rotates the ball and they are finding the right man before leaning to
their stars comparing the system to Nets, who mostly let Kyrie and KD to take over and create their own shots.

There's a big impact when a team rotates the ball. It will be tough for the opposing team to check who's going to take
the shot, unlike with system, where only stars dribbling and taking over.

Nets, Sixers and Lakers are the good examples where most of the time only their stars who holding the ball and making shots.
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October 27, 2022, 10:10:08 AM
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I don't really understand why there's this people who wanted to see a player who will always fits their visions, if it doesn't fit, they will say that he is overrated. We should not forget that players have their own respective strengths and weaknesses and that is why they are given that specific role. For Ja Morant, he is still young and we will see a lot more improvements on his side in the coming seasons. It's already a good thing that he can carry his team on his own way he is, at his age, it's not an easy feat to do. I think we should praise him rather than discrediting him on what he did, he deserved it, really.
Damn right. This is the same with the Ben Simmons case. He can't shoot, so why force it. Somehow, he will learn it on his way to being a star because he will need it to stretch the options of plays he can make as a point forward. If he can do a hesitation move acting like he was shooting, then he will be more terrifying as a ball handler.
Ja Morant on the other hand is already trying. He is shooting threes but his form is not yet perfect. Well, Steph's form is also not a good one because a good defender could easily block it if not for his quick release. Training is the key.

Exactly, I don't know why they are too eager to see these new players (stars in the future) to fit their standards, it's just like forcing to see Steph Curry dunking every single time that he'll attack the paint. Just let them be and you will be amazed on what they can do to help the team in every game. There's still a room for some improvements especially that they are still young. Just like you've said mate, training is the key.

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October 27, 2022, 10:15:42 AM
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Nets, Sixers and Lakers are the good examples where most of the time only their stars who holding the ball and making shots.

And it's not any more effective on the current style of basketball, lots of teams now that are good because they are playing as a team, like for example, the Utah Jazz, they traded their best players, and look where they are now, they are tied with the number 1 in the West. I'll bet, Jazz has a bigger chance of getting in the playoffs than the Lakers, the team just need some miracle to be consistent.



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October 27, 2022, 12:40:40 PM
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With or without Russ , Lakers still lost so I don't think the problem is Russ and most likely the entire team has a problem and they don't want to play together anymore. But wait , they are not alone because 76ers are looking like Huston 3 years ago when Harder was trying to win games by himself and he is trying but he is trying alone ... . Anyway, I'm happy with my team Bulls with the W and Bucks gave no chance to Nets...another Lakers and 76ers story is happening there as well. Grin
Yeah, it's the whole team.

Sad to see that they have to struggle this early. It's now a serious matter that there should be some re-strategize that must be done or else, we'll just keep seeing them losing their next games.

Most fans are expecting them to go lowball and there's no retrieval from them anymore. But let's see if the next games will show some difference and if it will break their losing streak.

In the last match against the Denver Nuggets, Lonnie Walker, Anthony Davis, and LeBron James performed very well. But the problem is, other players either did not perform well or significantly underperformed. It doesn't matter if they play Russell Westbrook or not, as long as they start playing together as a team, this result is not going to improve.

I am starting to feel like 76ers won't be able to live up to the promises that they made before the start of the season. At least they don't seem to be playing like that. Philadelphia 76ers are also facing almost the same problems as Lakers. Team performance is required.

Bulls have shown something that Lakers and Philadelphia 76ers are not able to do. Have an overall successful performance. Zack LaVine was the most outstanding performer for the Bulls, but he also received a lot of help from his teammates.

@boltz, I also agree with you on Bucks versus Nets. We saw a few very brilliant individual performances but not enough team chemistry. Giannis Antrtokounmpo was the pick of the players for the Bucks. Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving played well for Nets but in the end that was not enough.

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October 27, 2022, 01:11:16 PM
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@boltz, I also agree with you on Bucks versus Nets. We saw a few very brilliant individual performances but not enough team chemistry. Giannis Antrtokounmpo was the pick of the players for the Bucks. Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving played well for Nets but in the end that was not enough.
They lack defense. A big one. Not in the painted area but where the players are gaining momentum which is outside. That's why Giannis can break their defense so easily when he starts pressing the turbo mode.
Plus, Giannis is also upgraded now, he is loaded with different options to be offensive because of the shooting addition.
The Jazz did some magic right there after they dispose Gobert and Mitchell, they seem like a different team, a much improved team. After the Heat handed over the Blazers their first loss of the season, the Jazz are now sitting at the top of the Western conference. Their team chemistry this season is something special, 4-6 guys would put up 10+ points, and I guess that's the key story for their last 5 games.
Yes, it's surprising how they blend with each other even though they came from different teams. Clarkson is an exception though because if my memory serves me right, Markkanen and Sexton were there back when he was a Cavalier. That could be the reason creating chemistry is easy for them.

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October 27, 2022, 01:27:46 PM
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nice pick @YuginKadoya... did you have a parlay bet on the teams you choose also?

It would be nice if you put some parlay for a bigger return, but since you lose one, that would still ruin your parlay.
It's actually unexpected for the Blazers because after a great start, they lose by a huge margin, that's disappointing for me.

Nope! I didn't do it with parlay this time and I think I made the right decision in doing so because as you have seen 1 loss will surely ruin my Parlay but I guess I didn't do it because there is a close team in there I think it was the Toronto Raptors VS Philadelphia 76ers that has a close odds that is why I think it could surely ruin the parley because of the odds, their odds was 1.99 for the Raptors and 1.86 for the 76ers, but then again I have lost to the Portland Trail Blazers VS Miami Heat bet, because of the Miami Heat,



Here is my pick for games Tomorrow, and this time I am doing a Parley,

Brooklyn Nets VS Dallas Mavericks

The stake odds for this game are 2.22 for the Nets and 1.69 for the Mavericks, right now the Nets are not consistent although Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving have given their all in the game, and they have tremendous scores that surely can win any game, but apparently, they are not lucky enough to win, and right now so likely Luka Doncic will surely prevail here, my pick The Dallas Mavericks.

Oklahoma City Thunder VS Los Angeles Clippers

The stake odds for this game are 3.25 for the Thunders and 1.36 for the Clippers I guess the Thunders winning against the Clipper were just luck and this could be a revenge kind of play for the Los Angeles Clippers, so my pick will be the Clippers,

Sacramento Kings VS Memphis Grizzlies

Stake odds for this game are 2.25 for the Kings and 1.68 for the Grizzlies, Surely this is pretty much obvious my pick will be the Memphis Grizzlies,

Golden State Warriors VS Miami Heat

Stake odds for this game are 1.35 for the Warriors and 3.35 for the Heat, for me, I am a huge fan of the Warriors and likely their loss was just dumb luck, but for me, they will surely win against the Miami Heat so my pick is the Golden State Warriors,
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October 27, 2022, 02:51:17 PM
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the team just need some miracle to be consistent.

That's too much lol. There's no need for a miracle but an adjustment. On where it should be started, the Lakers are the only ones who can solve that. It might be alarming already that the Lakers are now 0-4 but still, lots of time to work on that adjustment. Just don't make it to the point where that good adjustment will now finally come at the mid-half of the season.

Utah Jazz and Portland Trail Blazers are unusual to see on the top of the standings but the question of whether they can able to maintain those spots is still a question. However, it's good to see unusual teams on the 1st and 2nd seeds for other NBA enthusiasts to shift their interest to these teams and not just focus on the Lakers.

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I don't really understand why there's this people who wanted to see a player who will always fits their visions, if it doesn't fit, they will say that he is overrated. We should not forget that players have their own respective strengths and weaknesses and that is why they are given that specific role. For Ja Morant, he is still young and we will see a lot more improvements on his side in the coming seasons. It's already a good thing that he can carry his team on his own way he is, at his age, it's not an easy feat to do. I think we should praise him rather than discrediting him on what he did, he deserved it, really.
Damn right. This is the same with the Ben Simmons case. He can't shoot, so why force it. Somehow, he will learn it on his way to being a star because he will need it to stretch the options of plays he can make as a point forward. If he can do a hesitation move acting like he was shooting, then he will be more terrifying as a ball handler.
Ja Morant on the other hand is already trying. He is shooting threes but his form is not yet perfect. Well, Steph's form is also not a good one because a good defender could easily block it if not for his quick release. Training is the key.

Exactly, I don't know why they are too eager to see these new players (stars in the future) to fit their standards, it's just like forcing to see Steph Curry dunking every single time that he'll attack the paint. Just let them be and you will be amazed on what they can do to help the team in every game. There's still a room for some improvements especially that they are still young. Just like you've said mate, training is the key.

Yeah, if they will dedicate and adjust then the expectations will be met, but forcing them will only see a more negative side of those players.

Though as a fan or as a critic's expectations might need to be reached to make them more
Impressive. for now, let them play the way they think they were, doing it the best and allow them
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October 27, 2022, 03:16:03 PM
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It wasn't Jordan Clarkson's fault on why Zion had that injury, it was a clean block and it's been replayed many times after the incident. It was a scary fall though, the Pelicans needed to give Zion some rest first while the season had just started which they did because Zion wasn't in the game earlier versus the Mavericks. Anyway, is there any update regarding Zion's situation and Ingram too?

Yes, I agree with that, anyone who saw the video would easily tell that it was a clean block. Zion made a wrong move when trying to dunk the ball as he puts the ball behind him, I think he wasn't expecting that Clarkson was behind him, so that happen, but it was just a clean play, no intention to injure him.

No doubt about that, Zion carelessly made that move and dunk the ball without having some extra precaution that one player of the opposite team will chase him all the way down and it happened that Clarkson was the nearest player to do the block. It happened so fast because it was just a fast break, I hope Zion got some lessons on this one because he and his team cannot afford to lose him again this season.

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October 27, 2022, 03:21:05 PM
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Yeah, it's the whole team.

Sad to see that they have to struggle this early. It's now a serious matter that there should be some re-strategize that must be done or else, we'll just keep seeing them losing their next games.

Most fans are expecting them to go lowball and there's no retrieval from them anymore. But let's see if the next games will show some difference and if it will break their losing streak.

On the one hand, it might be too early to say that the Lakers will be underdogs because the regular season has just begun, and they still have enough time. On the other hand, such a poor start to the season has become the worst for the Lakers in the last 7 seasons, and it's obvious that they have some internal problems which they should solve as soon as possible. Of course, the Lakers will break this losing streak sooner or later, but I doubt they will be able to do that in the upcoming games because their next opponents will be the Wolves, Nuggets, and Pelicans.

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October 27, 2022, 03:26:29 PM
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I also thought some reasons on why does the Lakers have this poor performance and came to a conclusion that maybe their coach was one of the reason that affects their chemistry but the Celtics had the same situation too yet they didn't had a hard time since the season started, now they have a good record of 3 wins out of four games. Surely the Lakers haven't yet solved their own puzzles that's why they are struggling.

It seems to me that the head coaches of the Celtics and the Lakers are in different situations. Mazzulla has been an assistant coach with the Celtics since 2019. So I think it was easy for him to adapt as a head coach because he already knows the players and coaching staff of the Celtics for a long time, while Ham may clearly be more difficult in this aspect.
By the way, there are rumors that Westbrook may miss the upcoming game against the Nuggets. It will be funny if the Lakers win without him, although the Nuggets are clearly not an easy opponent.

How different is it? Both of them happened to be an assistant coach the same roster for quite some years before they have promoted to be the head coach of the same team they acted as an assistant years before, the only difference is Darvin Ham acted the job much longer way back when there is still Pau Gasol, Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal in the Lakers way back in 2011. Yet it seems that Darvin Ham is more struggling in the job unlike Mazzulla who had a much easier journey.

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October 27, 2022, 03:32:14 PM
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With or without Russ , Lakers still lost so I don't think the problem is Russ and most likely the entire team has a problem and they don't want to play together anymore. But wait , they are not alone because 76ers are looking like Huston 3 years ago when Harder was trying to win games by himself and he is trying but he is trying alone ... . Anyway, I'm happy with my team Bulls with the W and Bucks gave no chance to Nets...another Lakers and 76ers story is happening there as well. Grin

The Lakers have started this season really badly, I honestly didn't think they would lose so many games. They actually didn't play badly against the Denver Nuggets, but the overall performance of the team wasn't enough to win the game. The Nuggets have an amazing player like Jokic.
The Lakers need new shooters to get out of this situation, with new players to replace Westbrook, the team could get a lot better Smiley

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October 27, 2022, 07:02:02 PM
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With or without Russ , Lakers still lost so I don't think the problem is Russ and most likely the entire team has a problem and they don't want to play together anymore. But wait , they are not alone because 76ers are looking like Huston 3 years ago when Harder was trying to win games by himself and he is trying but he is trying alone ... . Anyway, I'm happy with my team Bulls with the W and Bucks gave no chance to Nets...another Lakers and 76ers story is happening there as well. Grin
The Lakers have started this season really badly, I honestly didn't think they would lose so many games. They actually didn't play badly against the Denver Nuggets, but the overall performance of the team wasn't enough to win the game. The Nuggets have an amazing player like Jokic.
The Lakers need new shooters to get out of this situation, with new players to replace Westbrook, the team could get a lot better Smiley
The sad thing about them is the fact that there is nothing they could do about it neither. Like they are bad right now and if they change something up then they will become good? That is not possible, the roster sucks big time, they have a terrible roster and Lebron is looking for a way out right away, he doesn't want to spend last 1-2 years in a terrible team.

Long story short, Lakers will be tanking this year, and not even getting any proper rookies because they don't own their picks, and they are just going to suck because they suck and not tanking for wembeyamba. Alli n all I am guessing that they will finish the season with about 25 wins give or take, if they get any better maybe 30 wins but that’s it, they are just too terrible.
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@boltz, I also agree with you on Bucks versus Nets. We saw a few very brilliant individual performances but not enough team chemistry. Giannis Antrtokounmpo was the pick of the players for the Bucks. Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving played well for Nets but in the end that was not enough.
They lack defense. A big one. Not in the painted area but where the players are gaining momentum which is outside. That's why Giannis can break their defense so easily when he starts pressing the turbo mode.
Plus, Giannis is also upgraded now, he is loaded with different options to be offensive because of the shooting addition.
Yes, Nets lack defensively big time but second half Giannis was beast. What a rightful nickname he has, Freak. He also said in the after game press conference, that in the second half he was just being best of himself, not much of a team player. Don't get me wrong, I don't personally like him or his type of playing but I respect him a lot. He is so effective and probably the only guy who is impossible to defend in the league right now. Doncic, Jokic, KD, Lebron etc. all are amazing players but they are more defendable. Giannis is unstoppable. So, in my opinion, Nets actually played better than expected. Even though they lack team chemistry hugely. But they might have a better chemistry soon.

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