2024 NBA Season

[Oasisman]

The Athletic is reporting that the Philadelphia 76ers are refusing to trade James Harden and requesting him to appear in training camp. However, James Harden has said he has no plans to play for the 76ers this year and won’t be attending training camp. We’ve got ourselves a bit of a stand-off situation to start the 2024 season.

I don't get it. Are we witnessing the same thing that happened with Ben Simmons? I mean, does this prove that something is wrong in the 76ers' management than the players? Because this ain't the first anymore that a player refused to play for them.

Ha! I guess the Sixers are like destroying careers, instead of getting rid of players who lost interest in playing for their team, they tend to hold them till he lost his value, and that could definitely affect the player's consistency in the game. Similar to what happened with Simmons. He lost value as he lost his game too. He could've focused and improved on his shooting, but the fact that he's still with the Sixers, it held him back from performing his best because he is not interested with the team anymore. I hope this doesn't affect James Harden though. Embid might be out in the next couple of season or until his next free agency.

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[Pamadar]

The Athletic is reporting that the Philadelphia 76ers are refusing to trade James Harden and requesting him to appear in training camp. However, James Harden has said he has no plans to play for the 76ers this year and won’t be attending training camp. We’ve got ourselves a bit of a stand-off situation to start the 2024 season.

Now we are seeing a drama again with Harden. Kawhi has been with a lot of dramas because of his injuries, and load management, but Harden is a lot worse than him.
I mean coming out very fat with the Rockets, this feeling where he's like the boss of the Sixers and just saying things like that. Commissioner Adam Silver warned the league already after Lillard saying that he doesn't want to play except for the Heat, and for sure he will take measures for this one as well.

First it was Simmons who didn't want to play after what happened to him, and now Harden. I'm just a bit pissed with this players who they think that they are the authority, and they have the power to choose what they want to do like they're the boss of their own team. Like WTF!!!, and I hope that out Commissioner will not take this very lightly, and put sanctions to players who are acting like this. Overall, I will not be surprised if the Sixers will be forced to trade him before the season starts just because of how he is acting right now, or they will just let him stay with the Sixers since his contract will expire after this upcoming season.

Kawhi Leonard is different though because injuries are actually preventing him to play but if we take that out, we wouldn't be seeing any problems with his name. Moreover, these things weren't even a thing in the past but now they are giving these players more power that is why some of them are already asking for a trade after a single season with a failure that includes them on the equation why the whole thing didn't worked out. But I guess that it became a norm nowadays that these star players will just wash their hands and walk away if don't like how it goes.

Seems to me that the organization gives them more power though they can't blame them as fans are mostly supporting them and that is what franchise owners want.

Give them the contract and attract fans to follow and support the team and the merchandise they are just doing
it for money and there's nothing we can do about that kind of cycle. It's their business and they will choose where
the money will be. Situation will be negotiated and soon we will just hear updates to whatever the decision between
teams and players are being dealt with.

[karabiber]

The Athletic is reporting that the Philadelphia 76ers are refusing to trade James Harden and requesting him to appear in training camp. However, James Harden has said he has no plans to play for the 76ers this year and won’t be attending training camp. We’ve got ourselves a bit of a stand-off situation to start the 2024 season.

Anyone who looks at things rationally should know that this situation will happen. I think teams are tired of players asking for trades to the teams they want to go to, even though they have contracts and those contracts are not expiring. This situation causes the teams to have great problems in forming squads. I am fed up with this situation as a spectator. The Sixers need a good quarterback right now, a good hand to distribute the ball. Actually Harris and Harden are a good source of trade for the Sixers and since they don’t use forwards much, he can let them go and make up for their squad. They didn’t allow the trade because they couldn’t find the player they wanted.

[Japinat]

Here we go again with this guy and not so long ago we saw him when he wanted to leave the team he would do some funny thing for them to finally consider how to trade him as quickly as possible. remember when leaves his body to consume more than he needs and gains a huge amount of weight which makes him fat. The Houston Rockets became so frustrated and quickly released him because they thought there would be no chance for him to contribute good things to the team and suddenly after that, he retained his old self again. Now that he's doing his same old trick again the 76ers don't care about it anymore.

There should be some penalties on having this attitude, right? I thought that there's already a rule that a player shouldn't say such as transfers vulgarly against his current team. He has gained weight and there's a reason why he did that but having this attitude when the team wants him to be present on the training camp should still make him act professionally. It is not gonna be a surprise if there will be sanctions that will be placed on him regards to his contract if he's not attending practices if should be.

There will be sanctions and we will get to that because I think that the NBA can't wait to make their move and make them as a lesson for the players who are planning to do the very same thing in the future. It's not that they can just decide whatever they want and whatever they pleased to do because legally, they are obliged to follow the team's order because they are under a unique contract and if Philly will order Harden to participate in the training camp, he better be in that camp if he doesn't want any further problems that might affect his career.

[freedomgo]

Here we go again with this guy and not so long ago we saw him when he wanted to leave the team he would do some funny thing for them to finally consider how to trade him as quickly as possible. remember when leaves his body to consume more than he needs and gains a huge amount of weight which makes him fat. The Houston Rockets became so frustrated and quickly released him because they thought there would be no chance for him to contribute good things to the team and suddenly after that, he retained his old self again. Now that he's doing his same old trick again the 76ers don't care about it anymore.

There should be some penalties on having this attitude, right? I thought that there's already a rule that a player shouldn't say such as transfers vulgarly against his current team. He has gained weight and there's a reason why he did that but having this attitude when the team wants him to be present on the training camp should still make him act professionally. It is not gonna be a surprise if there will be sanctions that will be placed on him regards to his contract if he's not attending practices if should be.

There will be sanctions and we will get to that because I think that the NBA can't wait to make their move and make them as a lesson for the players who are planning to do the very same thing in the future. It's not that they can just decide whatever they want and whatever they pleased to do because legally, they are obliged to follow the team's order because they are under a unique contract and if Philly will order Harden to participate in the training camp, he better be in that camp if he doesn't want any further problems that might affect his career.

Right! It is only a matter of time before the NBA will start speaking again because they already made a warning and their next move will be a punishment to these big headed players just because they are a star. I mean, I would side with Dame Lillard for making this request because he cannot see himself with the Portland anymore and he's been for almost his whole career but James Harden? I don't think he's even deserving to make that kind of request.

Either way, the league is about to commence another season and let's expect that there will be some announcement about what's going on these days before proceeding to the first few games of the season.

[yazher]

Kawhi Leonard is different though because injuries are actually preventing him to play but if we take that out, we wouldn't be seeing any problems with his name. Moreover, these things weren't even a thing in the past but now they are giving these players more power that is why some of them are already asking for a trade after a single season with a failure that includes them on the equation why the whole thing didn't worked out. But I guess that it became a norm nowadays that these star players will just wash their hands and walk away if don't like how it goes.

The Clippers were just unlucky to get him when he was not at his best anymore because of these injuries and probably there will be no teams that will be interested in him when he comes back again healthy because same as the other players that are prone to injuries Kawhi Leonard will not be helping any team anymore or might be just become a hindrance for any team's progress to get to the NBA finals. There's no doubt about his performance in Toronto Raptors but sadly it didn't last long because he wasn't consistent and always lacked some performance to bring his team back to the NBA finals.

[püsür]

The Athletic is reporting that the Philadelphia 76ers are refusing to trade James Harden and requesting him to appear in training camp. However, James Harden has said he has no plans to play for the 76ers this year and won’t be attending training camp. We’ve got ourselves a bit of a stand-off situation to start the 2024 season.

Here we go again with this guy and not so long ago we saw him when he wanted to leave the team he would do some funny thing for them to finally consider how to trade him as quickly as possible. remember when leaves his body to consume more than he needs and gains a huge amount of weight which makes him fat. The Houston Rockets became so frustrated and quickly released him because they thought there would be no chance for him to contribute good things to the team and suddenly after that, he retained his old self again. Now that he's doing his same old trick again the 76ers don't care about it anymore.

I think Rockets just did the smart thing, instead of being tortured by this guy I would also just rather do a rebuilding and not being subjected to Harden's drama. I have had it with this guy as a simple NBA fan. What are these players thinking? It is not good for anyone, themselves, the teams, the fans, the league. Nba is giving too much power to these players. That being said, I think 76ers will just give up and trade him. Because they are helpless and it is inevitable that these players get what they want. I used to like players being traded, that is some exciting part of the nba. But Harden, Kyrie, Durant and Westbrook just killed it for me. I think we can already say that this is yet another year we can't expect anything proper from 76ers. That is such a shame.

I don’t think they should trade him. Players are getting way too much power in today’s NBA. Philly should force him to live up to his contract and if not then he can sit on the bench and waste the final years of his career not playing. One day he’ll look back and realize he should have lived up to his word instead of trying to force what he wants.

I just saw the news that there is a rule in the new CBA(The Collective Bargaining Agreement between the NBPA and the NBA) that if Harden doesn't attend camp, philadelphia can suspend his contract. They can sit him for a year and prevent him from playing for another team. So, as you have pointed out. That is exactly right. Is he going to really just waste his final years? There must be something else he is considering, otherwise it seems quite an unintelligent move to me that he is doing. Either Morey will be fired and the incoming gm's first order of business will be to get rid of Harden or Morey will stay and Harden will sit on the bench maybe until the trade deadline, maybe all season. Harden's opt-in to his contract is very weird. Harden could have had no contract, he exercised his player option instead of signing with the team of his choice. This made me think that Morey probably promised Harden a max contract this summer and he didn't keep his word.

[FanEagle]

Kawhi has always been one of the biggest "what ifs" in the history of NBA, of course there are a lot more as well and this isn't at the top for sure but he is a big one. This dude won 2 fmvp's and is not even considered remotely anywhere the top, not even in any top 10 topics ever, I am not saying that he is not in it, I am saying he is not even considered to be in it at all, ever.

How many other 2 time finals mvp's can you name that people wouldn't even consider a small slight chance of them being in top 10? Nobody. That dude spent 2 years as bringing championship to his team, and all rest of his career as spending time resting his injury. That's really not normal and should be considered a bit weird but unlucky at the same time.

[livingfree]

Kawhi has always been one of the biggest "what ifs" in the history of NBA, of course there are a lot more as well and this isn't at the top for sure but he is a big one. This dude won 2 fmvp's and is not even considered remotely anywhere the top, not even in any top 10 topics ever, I am not saying that he is not in it, I am saying he is not even considered to be in it at all, ever.

How many other 2 time finals mvp's can you name that people wouldn't even consider a small slight chance of them being in top 10? Nobody. That dude spent 2 years as bringing championship to his team, and all rest of his career as spending time resting his injury. That's really not normal and should be considered a bit weird but unlucky at the same time.

He's just underrated.

Sadly, there are players that have been at the top of fans preference and that's why they're more getting recognition. They're talking about title's and what, while some are getting the huge contracts despite not even touching a finals game.

And if it's about title, no doubt that Kawhi did it without that much of a superstar roster for his last or most recent title still, he's able to count on that roster that he's been with.

[OgNasty]

Kawhi has always been one of the biggest "what ifs" in the history of NBA, of course there are a lot more as well and this isn't at the top for sure but he is a big one. This dude won 2 fmvp's and is not even considered remotely anywhere the top, not even in any top 10 topics ever, I am not saying that he is not in it, I am saying he is not even considered to be in it at all, ever.

How many other 2 time finals mvp's can you name that people wouldn't even consider a small slight chance of them being in top 10? Nobody. That dude spent 2 years as bringing championship to his team, and all rest of his career as spending time resting his injury. That's really not normal and should be considered a bit weird but unlucky at the same time.

He's just underrated.

Sadly, there are players that have been at the top of fans preference and that's why they're more getting recognition. They're talking about title's and what, while some are getting the huge contracts despite not even touching a finals game.

And if it's about title, no doubt that Kawhi did it without that much of a superstar roster for his last or most recent title still, he's able to count on that roster that he's been with.

Crazy how one play against a dirty player seemingly derailed Kawhi from what an amazing career. Not to say he hasn’t had one, but he was certainly cut down right before his prime by a dirty close out. At least the NBA addressed the issue with a rule change, but you have to wonder how good Kawhi could have been.

[wheelz1200]

Kawhi has always been one of the biggest "what ifs" in the history of NBA, of course there are a lot more as well and this isn't at the top for sure but he is a big one. This dude won 2 fmvp's and is not even considered remotely anywhere the top, not even in any top 10 topics ever, I am not saying that he is not in it, I am saying he is not even considered to be in it at all, ever.

How many other 2 time finals mvp's can you name that people wouldn't even consider a small slight chance of them being in top 10? Nobody. That dude spent 2 years as bringing championship to his team, and all rest of his career as spending time resting his injury. That's really not normal and should be considered a bit weird but unlucky at the same time.

Agreed he is one of the biggest what ifs. Seems like a good dude too.  He is definitely unlucky in that his body won't keep up with him.  He is on eof those players who doesn't look like they should be good but when he is healthy no one in the NBA can guard him.  Never seen anyone get so many open shots for themselves.  Unfortunately time isn't on his side he is Def on the backside of his career.

[Yaunfitda]

Kawhi has always been one of the biggest "what ifs" in the history of NBA, of course there are a lot more as well and this isn't at the top for sure but he is a big one. This dude won 2 fmvp's and is not even considered remotely anywhere the top, not even in any top 10 topics ever, I am not saying that he is not in it, I am saying he is not even considered to be in it at all, ever.

How many other 2 time finals mvp's can you name that people wouldn't even consider a small slight chance of them being in top 10? Nobody. That dude spent 2 years as bringing championship to his team, and all rest of his career as spending time resting his injury. That's really not normal and should be considered a bit weird but unlucky at the same time.

Agreed he is one of the biggest what ifs. Seems like a good dude too.  He is definitely unlucky in that his body won't keep up with him.  He is on eof those players who doesn't look like they should be good but when he is healthy no one in the NBA can guard him.  Never seen anyone get so many open shots for themselves.  Unfortunately time isn't on his side he is Def on the backside of his career.

Yes, and during when he is healthy with the Raptors and some playing time with the Clippers, he was even compared to MJ, on how he played the mid-range and of course his defense as well as he is known to have that "Klaw" that can take the ball from anyone during his prime.

But his body now is very different when he move to Clippers and in a sense I will call that he is busted already as he can't play one whole season without having injuries. They even design minutes restrictions for him to prevent his body to fall or at least prevent an injuries. They put him on. rigorous training program that at the start of last year season, his quads and legs seems to improved a lot but it didn't help at all.

[btc_angela]

Kawhi has always been one of the biggest "what ifs" in the history of NBA, of course there are a lot more as well and this isn't at the top for sure but he is a big one. This dude won 2 fmvp's and is not even considered remotely anywhere the top, not even in any top 10 topics ever, I am not saying that he is not in it, I am saying he is not even considered to be in it at all, ever.

How many other 2 time finals mvp's can you name that people wouldn't even consider a small slight chance of them being in top 10? Nobody. That dude spent 2 years as bringing championship to his team, and all rest of his career as spending time resting his injury. That's really not normal and should be considered a bit weird but unlucky at the same time.

He's just underrated.

Sadly, there are players that have been at the top of fans preference and that's why they're more getting recognition. They're talking about title's and what, while some are getting the huge contracts despite not even touching a finals game.

And if it's about title, no doubt that Kawhi did it without that much of a superstar roster for his last or most recent title still, he's able to count on that roster that he's been with.

Crazy how one play against a dirty player seemingly derailed Kawhi from what an amazing career. Not to say he hasn’t had one, but he was certainly cut down right before his prime by a dirty close out. At least the NBA addressed the issue with a rule change, but you have to wonder how good Kawhi could have been.

Yes, for San Antonio Spurs fans, they wouldn't forget how ZaZa did that intentionally to Kawhi and it did have a butterfly effect, first NBA have to change the rule and give space to the shooter, and second Kawhi won a ring to Toronto.

But that really derailed Kawhi's career and I think it is still the offshot of that dirty plays that up to still this day Kawhi didn't recovered fully and when he went to Clippers everything started to fall apart on his side.

[danherbias07]

The Athletic is reporting that the Philadelphia 76ers are refusing to trade James Harden and requesting him to appear in training camp. However, James Harden has said he has no plans to play for the 76ers this year and won’t be attending training camp. We’ve got ourselves a bit of a stand-off situation to start the 2024 season.

I don't get it. Are we witnessing the same thing that happened with Ben Simmons? I mean, does this prove that something is wrong in the 76ers' management than the players? Because this ain't the first anymore that a player refused to play for them.

We'll have to wait and see, my friend, but it's quite possible we might witness a situation similar to what's happening now, and it could potentially impact James Harden's career, just like Simmons is experiencing. The 76ers seem to be facing a problem here. While I don't have all the contract details, it seems like they might be wasting money and sacrificing their chances of making the playoffs if they opt not to trade James Harden and would choose to play undermanned. In my opinion, this doesn't seem to be a strategic move; it appears to be an inefficient way of handling the situation.

But if the other party doesn't like to play anymore, I doubt they can do something about it. Just like what Ben Simmons did. He just let the 76ers take the money but he still didn't play until he is free. I am curious though as to what could make James Harden feel this way. Is it the same as what the 76ers did with Ben Simmons or is there any other reason why Harden is being stubborn?
But I guess they won't leak any of that information since this is an internal dispute.

Ha! I guess the Sixers are like destroying careers, instead of getting rid of players who lost interest in playing for their team, they tend to hold them till he lost his value, and that could definitely affect the player's consistency in the game. Similar to what happened with Simmons. He lost value as he lost his game too. He could've focused and improved on his shooting, but the fact that he's still with the Sixers, it held him back from performing his best because he is not interested with the team anymore. I hope this doesn't affect James Harden though. Embid might be out in the next couple of season or until his next free agency.

I hope so too. But Harden already proved that he is a good player for a long time in his career although he has that bad habit of being nervous in a playoff or Conference Finals game.
Still, I think teams will be glad to sign him up if ever the 76ers would let him go. That's a better choice especially for teams who are aiming for the "win now" road. Like Clippers as an example.

[LogitechMouse]

Kawhi has always been one of the biggest "what ifs" in the history of NBA, of course there are a lot more as well and this isn't at the top for sure but he is a big one. This dude won 2 fmvp's and is not even considered remotely anywhere the top, not even in any top 10 topics ever, I am not saying that he is not in it, I am saying he is not even considered to be in it at all, ever.

How many other 2 time finals mvp's can you name that people wouldn't even consider a small slight chance of them being in top 10? Nobody. That dude spent 2 years as bringing championship to his team, and all rest of his career as spending time resting his injury. That's really not normal and should be considered a bit weird but unlucky at the same time.

The king of "Load Management".

That's what some people call him right now, and that's true. Ever since he went to the Clippers after winning a title with the Raptors, he's been doing this load management sh*t that ruins the whole team. What's worse is that, he only says that he will not play just minutes or hours before the game even starts. I mean like WTF!!. You're being paid, and you will choose whether you will play or not even though you can play?

Anyway with regards to him being considered in the top 10, he's easily on the top 10 on the list of current active players right now "IF" he's healthy. We already saw how good he is back when he was in the Raptors, and he won a title there. I mean with his skills on both offense, and defense, I can put him in the top 10 conversation no doubts. It's just that injuries really ruin one's career, and that includes him. We know his potential, and how good he is.

2 Finals MVP's don't matter if you play like that. Always getting injured, can't be a leader, always silent, and at the same time, don't know how to laugh . Kidding aside, Kawhi no doubt is a top 10 player, and there was a time where even Lebron is afraid of him when Kawhi is in the court because of how good he is defensively. I already said the problem with him, and I hope there will be a cure with that one.

[carlisle1]

Kawhi has always been one of the biggest "what ifs" in the history of NBA, of course there are a lot more as well and this isn't at the top for sure but he is a big one. This dude won 2 fmvp's and is not even considered remotely anywhere the top, not even in any top 10 topics ever, I am not saying that he is not in it, I am saying he is not even considered to be in it at all, ever.

How many other 2 time finals mvp's can you name that people wouldn't even consider a small slight chance of them being in top 10? Nobody. That dude spent 2 years as bringing championship to his team, and all rest of his career as spending time resting his injury. That's really not normal and should be considered a bit weird but unlucky at the same time.

He's just underrated.

Sadly, there are players that have been at the top of fans preference and that's why they're more getting recognition. They're talking about title's and what, while some are getting the huge contracts despite not even touching a finals game.

And if it's about title, no doubt that Kawhi did it without that much of a superstar roster for his last or most recent title still, he's able to count on that roster that he's been with.

Crazy how one play against a dirty player seemingly derailed Kawhi from what an amazing career. Not to say he hasn’t had one, but he was certainly cut down right before his prime by a dirty close out. At least the NBA addressed the issue with a rule change, but you have to wonder how good Kawhi could have been.

Yes, for San Antonio Spurs fans, they wouldn't forget how ZaZa did that intentionally to Kawhi and it did have a butterfly effect, first NBA have to change the rule and give space to the shooter, and second Kawhi won a ring to Toronto.

But that really derailed Kawhi's career and I think it is still the offshot of that dirty plays that up to still this day Kawhi didn't recovered fully and when he went to Clippers everything started to fall apart on his side.

It resulted in a good adjustment from the rules. After that incident with Zaza and Kawhai, NBA adjust the rules about that kind of defense,
good for the future players but for Kawhai it's really affects him.

Though after that he still won another title plus an FMVP but it didn't work out well as up to know he still suffering from that injury
and still curing it and trying to adjust to help his team.

We never know what awaits for him in this upcoming season. Hopefully, we see some healthy run from him.

[Natalim]

Kawhi has always been one of the biggest "what ifs" in the history of NBA, of course there are a lot more as well and this isn't at the top for sure but he is a big one. This dude won 2 fmvp's and is not even considered remotely anywhere the top, not even in any top 10 topics ever, I am not saying that he is not in it, I am saying he is not even considered to be in it at all, ever.

How many other 2 time finals mvp's can you name that people wouldn't even consider a small slight chance of them being in top 10? Nobody. That dude spent 2 years as bringing championship to his team, and all rest of his career as spending time resting his injury. That's really not normal and should be considered a bit weird but unlucky at the same time.

He's just underrated.

Sadly, there are players that have been at the top of fans preference and that's why they're more getting recognition. They're talking about title's and what, while some are getting the huge contracts despite not even touching a finals game.

And if it's about title, no doubt that Kawhi did it without that much of a superstar roster for his last or most recent title still, he's able to count on that roster that he's been with.

Crazy how one play against a dirty player seemingly derailed Kawhi from what an amazing career. Not to say he hasn’t had one, but he was certainly cut down right before his prime by a dirty close out. At least the NBA addressed the issue with a rule change, but you have to wonder how good Kawhi could have been.

Yes, for San Antonio Spurs fans, they wouldn't forget how ZaZa did that intentionally to Kawhi and it did have a butterfly effect, first NBA have to change the rule and give space to the shooter, and second Kawhi won a ring to Toronto.

But that really derailed Kawhi's career and I think it is still the offshot of that dirty plays that up to still this day Kawhi didn't recovered fully and when he went to Clippers everything started to fall apart on his side.

It resulted in a good adjustment from the rules. After that incident with Zaza and Kawhai, NBA adjust the rules about that kind of defense,
good for the future players but for Kawhai it's really affects him.

Though after that he still won another title plus an FMVP but it didn't work out well as up to know he still suffering from that injury
and still curing it and trying to adjust to help his team.

We never know what awaits for him in this upcoming season. Hopefully, we see some healthy run from him.

I believe that was called the 'landing spot' foul. Kawhi managed to win championship with the Raptors after his injury was healed as he request to be traded, so I would say he's doing well. Perhaps his increasing age has made him more susceptible to injuries. However, with proper management, akin to what the Lakers did with Davis, the Clippers could become a powerful team in the playoffs. Given their roster featuring PG and WB, reaching the playoffs shouldn't be an issue, especially since they've been building their team chemistry.

[livingfree]

He's just underrated.

Sadly, there are players that have been at the top of fans preference and that's why they're more getting recognition. They're talking about title's and what, while some are getting the huge contracts despite not even touching a finals game.

And if it's about title, no doubt that Kawhi did it without that much of a superstar roster for his last or most recent title still, he's able to count on that roster that he's been with.

Crazy how one play against a dirty player seemingly derailed Kawhi from what an amazing career. Not to say he hasn’t had one, but he was certainly cut down right before his prime by a dirty close out. At least the NBA addressed the issue with a rule change, but you have to wonder how good Kawhi could have been.

Those dirty moves against him did really a lot to his career and you're right that it could have been better without it.

Yet, he still got the titles and he's still doing good as of now, at least IMO.

I could think of Westbrook just as him, with the little contract that he had accepted. Yes, his plays won't change but the look and view on him by everyone will surely changed.

[Sanitough]

He's just underrated.

Sadly, there are players that have been at the top of fans preference and that's why they're more getting recognition. They're talking about title's and what, while some are getting the huge contracts despite not even touching a finals game.

And if it's about title, no doubt that Kawhi did it without that much of a superstar roster for his last or most recent title still, he's able to count on that roster that he's been with.

Crazy how one play against a dirty player seemingly derailed Kawhi from what an amazing career. Not to say he hasn’t had one, but he was certainly cut down right before his prime by a dirty close out. At least the NBA addressed the issue with a rule change, but you have to wonder how good Kawhi could have been.

Those dirty moves against him did really a lot to his career and you're right that it could have been better without it.

Yet, he still got the titles and he's still doing good as of now, at least IMO.

I could think of Westbrook just as him, with the little contract that he had accepted. Yes, his plays won't change but the look and view on him by everyone will surely changed.

Well, we can't turn back time; let's just accept what happened to him in the past. What matters is he is still in the NBA and still playing. Personally, I don't think Leonard's career will end up like Westbrook's, because judging by his stats (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01.html), the consistency is still present. So even if he gets traded or his contract expires, I'm pretty sure there are still teams that would be willing to give him a good contract.

Have you forgotten about Paul George's injury? I think his injuries were far worse than Leonard's, but look where he is now. He is still playing like a true star.

[Kelvinid]

Have you forgotten about Paul George's injury? I think his injuries were far worse than Leonard's, but look where he is now. He is still playing like a true star.

Who could forget that? It's one of the worst injuries, and at one point, I thought PG wouldn't be able to come back anymore. But he did well; he was able to come back and perform like his usual self, which is in contrast to the case of Derrick Rose. However, I'm no expert. Although Leonard's injury doesn't look as severe, I still consider it very serious since it was an ankle injury, and that area is quite sensitive. Once a player has a history of injury, it becomes easier to reinjure again.