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[Cnut237]

sadly mercedes was pretty far ahead of the other teams again with a 0,4s gap between mercedes and verstappen.

I'm not sure this is entirely due to Mercedes. Verstappen had his first time wiped for exceeding track limits... which meant he had to be more cautious on his next run, to avoid starting from tenth.
I'm not sure Mercedes have any real pace advantage... but they do have a strategic advantage now starting P1 and P2.

[coinlocket$]

Pole position for Bottas but we already know he will fail tomorrow.

Verstappen did a mistake on 1st try of the 2 in the 3rd part of qualify so in his last and only try he didn't push at his 100% or he was risking the 10th position.

Tomorrow we will see a fun race imho the track is still slippery for the new asphalt.

[jakdanyel]

Pole position for Bottas but we already know he will fail tomorrow.

Verstappen did a mistake on 1st try of the 2 in the 3rd part of qualify so in his last and only try he didn't push at his 100% or he was risking the 10th position.

Tomorrow we will see a fun race imho the track is still slippery for the new asphalt.

After seeing Bottas' performance in the practices, I was expecting him to have a good position in the qualifying. But taking the pole position was really unexpected for me.    If I'm not wrong, Verstappen actually had a lap time which was going to be enough for taking the pole position. But it was deleted unfortunately because he was out of track limits on a turn. But still, I think that Verstappen could win the race if he has a good start.

[blue Snow]

Today MotoGP on Jerez Circuit Spain, here starting grid the pool qualification:



Fabio Quartararo still on TOP stand with 25 points. however, Quartararo's position still at risk to defeat by Bagnaia with 20 points. In the Spain circuit, Bagnaia in the 4th pole position, If not careful Quartararo's position will be hijacked by the Ducati racer.

the race today, Marquez and Rossi position on 20th and 17th, I think it would be hard for both of them to get top position.

[Koal-84]

Today MotoGP on Jerez Circuit Spain, here starting grid the pool qualification:



Fabio Quartararo still on TOP stand with 25 points. however, Quartararo's position still at risk to defeat by Bagnaia with 20 points. In the Spain circuit, Bagnaia in the 4th pole position, If not careful Quartararo's position will be hijacked by the Ducati racer.

the race today, Marquez and Rossi position on 20th and 17th, I think it would be hard for both of them to get top position.

Very good starting position for Yamaha, I'm already looking forward to the race. I think it will be an uphill battle for victory, the new young generation of drivers has finally arrived. Seems like Rossi is already in his head next year with his own team, hope he can still make his 200th podium this year, but it will be very difficult. Marc had another bad crash, will he ever come back as old?

[Luzin]

the race today, Marquez and Rossi position on 20th and 17th, I think it would be hard for both of them to get top position.

Last year, if I'm not mistaken, the 1st and 2nd positions belonged to Yamaha. Fabio Quartararo and Maverick Vinale and third place, Dovizioso from Ducati. Today it seems that his dominance is still the same, it seems that Marquez has not been able to perform optimally. I heard he fell during FP 3. Maybe today Yamaha will win again here.

[Cnut237]

Verstappen actually had a lap time which was going to be enough for taking the pole position. But it was deleted unfortunately because he was out of track limits on a turn.

Yes, but exceeding the track limits gave him an advantage, which helped him to get such a low time.
Ultimately it was a weird Q3 session, with no-one able to get anywhere near the time Hamilton had set in the prior session. A gusting wind and a track surface like an ice rink may have made the qualifying times a little unrepresentative.

But still, I think that Verstappen could win the race if he has a good start.

Yes, as always the start is important. If Mercedes can hold P1 and P2 for the first few laps until things settle down, they might have a big strategic advantage when it comes to the pit stops... another factor in this could be whether or not Perez is able to keep up with the front three, or whether Verstappen will be left alone vs the Mercedes cars.

[Bitinity]

the race today, Marquez and Rossi position on 20th and 17th, I think it would be hard for both of them to get top position.

Last year, if I'm not mistaken, the 1st and 2nd positions belonged to Yamaha. Fabio Quartararo and Maverick Vinale and third place, Dovizioso from Ducati. Today it seems that his dominance is still the same, it seems that Marquez has not been able to perform optimally. I heard he fell during FP 3. Maybe today Yamaha will win again here.

Who is getting confused here? blue Snow is talking about 20th position on the starting grid which belongs to Alex Marquez and your reply is related to the crash of Marq Marquez. It seems that blue Snow wanted to talk about Marc Marquez as he compared it to Rossi, but he did take the position of Marq's brother (Alex).  

Fabio Quartararo still on TOP stand with 25 points. however, Quartararo's position still at risk to defeat by Bagnaia with 20 points.

I do not really understand which 25 points you are referring to? Quartararo is indeed still on top of the standing, but his points is 61 and Bagnaia with 46 points on the 2nd place.

[Luzin]

Who is getting confused here? blue Snow is talking about 20th position on the starting grid which belongs to Alex Marquez and your reply is related to the crash of Marq Marquez. It seems that blue Snow wanted to talk about Marc Marquez as he compared it to Rossi, but he did take the position of Marq's brother (Alex).  

Hahaha LOL. I didn't pay attention to who was in the 20th position in the starting grid, so I thought it was Marc Marquez. Because I think Alex Marquez is often called Alex and Marcq is Marquez. I'm sorry if I was wrong. But I am waiting for this race, maybe it will be more exciting than the previous series.

[blue Snow]

It seems that blue Snow wanted to talk about Marc Marquez as he compared it to Rossi, but he did take the position of Marq's brother (Alex).

yes, sorry. I want to compare to mark but made a mistaken, 20th position is alex. marq in 14th osotion on grid.

I do not really understand which 25 points you are referring to? Quartararo is indeed still on top of the standing, but his points is 61 and Bagnaia with 46 points on the 2nd place.

I mean on portugal, Quartaro create 25 points. that I was create mistaken (25 point for 1 games) again, I don't look at 2 games (qatar and doha) before with Quartaro get full point either.

[swogerino]

Pole position for Bottas but we already know he will fail tomorrow.

Verstappen did a mistake on 1st try of the 2 in the 3rd part of qualify so in his last and only try he didn't push at his 100% or he was risking the 10th position.

Tomorrow we will see a fun race imho the track is still slippery for the new asphalt.

Most of the time Bottas is known for bad starts in general but today is a race which is quite different compared to other tracks with a lot of bumps so anything can happen.I predict at least 1 Safety Car in today race.

[tokeweed]

What does everyone think of this bet:  Russell to finish with points (to finish top 10) priced at 2.85.  He said that he’s going to push really hard to get a point during an interview. 

Value or could be better?

[Jackl87]

The Race is over. Sadly not many exciting moments this weekend. Hamilton won again of course and it seemed that he still had some reserves left if verstappen would have come closer. A shame that bottas could not keep up with hamilton and verstappen again. That is kinda sad, for him but also for the whole competition because now it's already clear again after 3 races that bottas will have to work for hamilton this year again as he can not really challenge him. Also i was happy to see that Mick Schumacher was able to overtake latifi close to the end. He really seems to have some talented as he is driving in the weakest car of all and still managed to overtake a williams.

[Cnut237]

Hamilton won again of course

Not really 'of course' though, surely? Mercedes did look to have a slightly faster car this time around, but it's the first time this season, and the gap was very narrow. Max was fairly close for the whole race. The way it's going, it looks like who has the best car might go back and forth between Mercedes and Red Bull depending on the specific demands of each track.

[coinlocket$]

As predicted another messed up GP from Bottas, he is so weak.
Great win for Hamilton.

Today Mercedes was a better car than Redbull, the championship will be fun this year.

The race by itself was very boring, as told you is a nice track where is fun to race for drivers but boring to see for people.

[LTU_btc]

Yeah, it wasn't most exciting race, I expected for something more in this track. Hamilton was great today, his overtake over Verstappen was perfect. Good race for Perez - after all, 4th place is his best result in Red Bull so far. Maybe 8th place doesn't sounds sexy, but it was solid race for Alonso.
And Kimi big mistake was something what you don't expect from most experienced F1 driver.
Next GP after less than week in Barcelona - one of the most boring tracks in my opinion, if we exclude city circuits.

[boltz]

As predicted another messed up GP from Bottas, he is so weak.
Great win for Hamilton.

Today Mercedes was a better car than Redbull, the championship will be fun this year.

The race by itself was very boring, as told you is a nice track where is fun to race for drivers but boring to see for people.

So true. The circuit itself is amazing if you race on it but for watching it won't deliver any big shows or crashes that would put the fan on the edge when he's watching. And yes, another failed start for Bottas but I think he knows well his role in the team and even if he had a good start and great pace, at some point the team orders would come and Lewis will pass him. It happened today with Lec and Sainz too.

[Cnut237]

Today Mercedes was a better car than Redbull, the championship will be fun this year.

I think the Mercedes was slightly better, yes. Hamilton certainly looked faster on the hards, although Bottas couldn't get close to Max.

The story of the race was basically:
1. Slow reactions from Hamilton at the SC restart; Verstappen overtook for 2nd.
2. Mistake by Verstappen (slide) which let Hamilton overtake for 2nd.

Anything else, Bottas, Perez etc, is largely irrelevant.

[coinlocket$]

Next GP after less than week in Barcelona - one of the most boring tracks in my opinion, if we exclude city circuits.

Yep, another super boring GP, even worse since the teams have a lot of data in this track cause the old tests done here for years.
The only hope is to see some rain otherwise it will a race where you can go to sleep after the start.

And so far the water prediction says 0% rain in Barcelona next week. 

[Cnut237]

Yep, another super boring GP

What we really need, given that Mercedes and Red Bull are so closely matched, is for Bottas and Perez to step it up a bit. Max vs Lewis at the front is better than just Lewis at the front, it adds some competition. But if we had both Red Bulls and both Mercs up there, vying for position, undercutting each other and forcing split strategies, it would be more interesting.

I really hope the 2022 changes have the desired effect of bringing the pack closer together and allowing more overtaking.