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[AakZaki]

I also will see more old school tracks, but the habe not so many money than the boring new tracks...

The provisional MtoGp Calender for next year is online.
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I'm happy that my country is on the MotoGP calendar for next season. Even though I don't really understand that the Mandalika Circuit is included in the reserve venue in the temporary schedule published by Dorna Sports, with the status subject to homologation. Indeed, currently this circuit is still under construction and targeted for completion in 2021. In addition, I also heard that Dorna will review it in February 2021 and I hope to pass. The news from Mandalika's management has also made a 10-year contract with Dorna. The following is an illustration of the Mandalika Circuit from one of the local media in my country.

Source Image : https://finance.detik.com

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[aesma]

Hulk will race? Who got Covid again? I red that Grosjean missed his flight to Istanbul, so maybe Hulkenberg is waiting for another chance to race .
Seriously, like always, Hamilton is huge favorite, while Bottas and Verstappen will fight for 2nd place. Unless something extraordinary will happen.

I didn't see any news about who got covid again. He probably replace Lance Stroll again? All F1 and sports news sites say he will race again in İstanbul after all these years.

Scuderia AlphaTauri and Red Bull pilots made a commercial photo shoot playing backgammon in Bosphorus.

Gasly against Albon, funny !

Grosjean just got a third kid, might explain why he missed his flight. Congrats to him. Apparently he's looking at joining Indycar.

[xzone]

After many years I am very excited that we will follow the Formula 1 race in Turkey again. Only a few hours left for the organization to begin. Istanbulpark is a very technical track and needs to be studied well. As many drivers will be racing at this track for the first time, we can see a surprising result. Maybe track can be slippery

Turn 8 back for 2020!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feWvb-Blt0A&ab_channel=BenF1%2AHU%2A

[LTU_btc]

@ingiltere, thanks for sharing these photos! Do you know what year car Alpha Tauri are using for this exhibition? Because as I know they can't use current cars for these things. So, it should be old Toro Rosso in Alpha Tauri colors.
@aesma, it would be interesting to see Grosejean in IndyCar. I like this racing series, often it's much more exciting and unpredictable than F1.
Few days ago I read that only driver who messaged Grosejan after news about exit from Haas was Russel. I felt a bit sad for Romain.

Turn 8 back for 2020!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feWvb-Blt0A&ab_channel=BenF1%2AHU%2A

Turn 8 with 4 apexes is one of greatest and most challenging turns in current F1, together with Parabolica and Eau Rouge. So much G-force!

[Apes]

I'm happy that my country is on the MotoGP calendar for next season. Even though I don't really understand that the Mandalika Circuit is included in the reserve venue in the temporary schedule published by Dorna Sports, with the status subject to homologation. Indeed, currently this circuit is still under construction and targeted for completion in 2021. In addition, I also heard that Dorna will review it in February 2021 and I hope to pass. The news from Mandalika's management has also made a 10-year contract with Dorna. The following is an illustration of the Mandalika Circuit from one of the local media in my country.

Source Image : https://finance.detik.com

beautiful circuit. I also hope that the Mandalika circuit can pas the certification and can participate in the MotoGP 2021 calendar, the kind of street circuit that adopted in mandalika will be more challenging than the usual circuit and will make this competition even more tight and interesting.
and in my opinion, having the mandalika will make the competition more refreshing and make this competition even fresher.

[dre1982]

@ingiltere, thanks for sharing these photos! Do you know what year car Alpha Tauri are using for this exhibition? Because as I know they can't use current cars for these things. So, it should be old Toro Rosso in Alpha Tauri colors.
@aesma, it would be interesting to see Grosejean in IndyCar. I like this racing series, often it's much more exciting and unpredictable than F1.
Few days ago I read that only driver who messaged Grosejan after news about exit from Haas was Russel. I felt a bit sad for Romain.

Turn 8 back for 2020!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feWvb-Blt0A&ab_channel=BenF1%2AHU%2A

Turn 8 with 4 apexes is one of greatest and most challenging turns in current F1, together with Parabolica and Eau Rouge. So much G-force!

Turn 8 looks nice. Free practice will start within 20 minutes from now. Let's see how the teams/drivers will do on this track.

[dre1982]

Wondering top 3.

Even Vettel was at #5. Don't know what Ferrari did, but it works.

[Koal-84]

I also will see more old school tracks, but the habe not so many money than the boring new tracks...

The provisional MtoGp Calender for next year is online.
~snip~

I'm happy that my country is on the MotoGP calendar for next season. Even though I don't really understand that the Mandalika Circuit is included in the reserve venue in the temporary schedule published by Dorna Sports, with the status subject to homologation. Indeed, currently this circuit is still under construction and targeted for completion in 2021. In addition, I also heard that Dorna will review it in February 2021 and I hope to pass. The news from Mandalika's management has also made a 10-year contract with Dorna. The following is an illustration of the Mandalika Circuit from one of the local media in my country.

Source Image : https://finance.detik.com

Looks nice the track at Indonesia also the location are very nice  . To the covid tests at the MotoGP already i don't trust the test see as example Rossi that's already a farce. One day negativ, next day positive the day after negativ...

Having initially tested positive again last Tuesday, Rossi cleared the other tests he had to take and was able to take part in the European Grand Prix last weekend.

However, on Tuesday having returned home to Italy Rossi tested “positive with a very low viral load” and was recommended by doctors to take another two tests.

The first one take on Wednesday returned a negative result on Thursday, with his next one taken this morning also returning negative.

Rossi has now been cleared to take part in this weekend’s Valencia GP alongside his crew after they cleared all the relevant tests.

Source: https://us.motorsport.com/motogp/news/rossi-cleared-covid-yamaha-valencia/4908047/

[Cnut237]

Toto Wolff saying "Ferrari will sacrifice 2021 too, is hard for them to come back. They will rebuild the tech division and they will come back in 2022"

It's not just Toto saying it. Ferrari have said so themselves, and have brought in a new designer specifically to focus on 2022.

The reason that they have no chance (or very little chance) in 2021 is that the Covid pandemic pushed the rule changes back a year to 2022, and means that next year has only very limited and restricted development permitted. All teams are limited in the changes they can make for 2021, and given that Ferrari are so far behind this year, it seems unlikely given those constraints that there is any possibility they can catch up.
The other side of this is the speculation about whether Hamilton will sign a new contract - the development limits next year means he's likely to have the best car again, and a clear run at an 8th world title... surely he'd not turn down that chance.

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Free practice 1 of F1 already happened, we have 2 hours difference in time zone.

Free practice 2 will happens in minutes!

We are 10 sec slower or even more from the record of the GP for rain.

Pos   Driver   Team   Gap
1   Max Verstappen   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing   1m35.077s
2   Alexander Albon   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing   0.241s
3   Charles Leclerc   Scuderia Ferrari   0.430s
4   Pierre Gasly   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   0.466s
5   Sebastian Vettel   Scuderia Ferrari   0.543s
6   Daniil Kvyat   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   1.661s
7   Lando Norris   McLaren F1 Team   2.139s
8   Antonio Giovinazzi   Alfa Romeo Racing ORLEN   2.426s
9   Valtteri Bottas   Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team   2.552s
10   Esteban Ocon   Renault DP World F1 Team   3.351s
11   Nicholas Latifi   Williams Racing   3.431s
12   Sergio Perez   BWT Racing Point F1 Team   3.535s
13   Lance Stroll   BWT Racing Point F1 Team   4.407s
14   Romain Grosjean   Haas F1 Team   4.948s
15   Lewis Hamilton   Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team   5.148s
16   Kimi Raikkonen   Alfa Romeo Racing ORLEN   5.958s
17   Kevin Magnussen   Haas F1 Team   6.777s
18   Daniel Ricciardo   Renault DP World F1 Team   10.079s
19   Carlos Sainz Jr.   McLaren F1 Team   11.385s
20   George Russell   Williams Racing   14.179s


Source: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/153474/verstappen-leads-turkish-gp-fp1-on-slippery-track

[dre1982]

Free practice 1 of F1 already happened, we have 2 hours difference in time zone.

Free practice 2 will happens in minutes!

We are 10 sec slower or even more from the record of the GP for rain.

Pos   Driver   Team   Gap
1   Max Verstappen   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing   1m35.077s
2   Alexander Albon   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing   0.241s
3   Charles Leclerc   Scuderia Ferrari   0.430s
4   Pierre Gasly   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   0.466s
5   Sebastian Vettel   Scuderia Ferrari   0.543s
6   Daniil Kvyat   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   1.661s
7   Lando Norris   McLaren F1 Team   2.139s
8   Antonio Giovinazzi   Alfa Romeo Racing ORLEN   2.426s
9   Valtteri Bottas   Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team   2.552s
10   Esteban Ocon   Renault DP World F1 Team   3.351s
11   Nicholas Latifi   Williams Racing   3.431s
12   Sergio Perez   BWT Racing Point F1 Team   3.535s
13   Lance Stroll   BWT Racing Point F1 Team   4.407s
14   Romain Grosjean   Haas F1 Team   4.948s
15   Lewis Hamilton   Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team   5.148s
16   Kimi Raikkonen   Alfa Romeo Racing ORLEN   5.958s
17   Kevin Magnussen   Haas F1 Team   6.777s
18   Daniel Ricciardo   Renault DP World F1 Team   10.079s
19   Carlos Sainz Jr.   McLaren F1 Team   11.385s
20   George Russell   Williams Racing   14.179s


Source: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/153474/verstappen-leads-turkish-gp-fp1-on-slippery-track

They are now already a lot quicker then the morning session. At the moment the fastest is 1.28.330 and now everyone is running on the Soft tyres so I expect that the will be even quicker.

[tokeweed]

^  Merc are prolly not pushing it atm...  Expect total domination at FP3, qualifying and a Merc 1 - 2 on Sunday..  You know...  The usual. 

[dre1982]

^  Merc are prolly not pushing it atm...  Expect total domination at FP3, qualifying and a Merc 1 - 2 on Sunday..  You know...  The usual. 

Yep so we will see Bottas at P1 in FP3 and Hamilton taken pole again. 

Let's hope for Albon that the can set a result this weekend. Today he was doing well.

[ingiltere]

@ingiltere, thanks for sharing these photos! Do you know what year car Alpha Tauri are using for this exhibition? Because as I know they can't use current cars for these things. So, it should be old Toro Rosso in Alpha Tauri colors.

I couldn't find any info about that but you are probably right. They wouldn't use main racing car for a promo drive.


İstanbul Park atmosphere is great. Today started really good. Red Bull did well but it's just the practice. This weekend will be so much fun!

[coinlocket$]

Free practice 2 done and a decent Ferrari, if they only can touch the engine...



Source; https://f1i.com/news/389711-turkish-grand-prix-free-practice-2-results.html

Mercedes not so strong so far they seem to be have a "difficult" time with the low grip

[aesma]

If Ferrari has done something to their engine (new oil injection ?) they haven't done it to the other teams running a customer engine...

[dre1982]

Free practice 2 done and a decent Ferrari, if they only can touch the engine...



Source; https://f1i.com/news/389711-turkish-grand-prix-free-practice-2-results.html

Mercedes not so strong so far they seem to be have a "difficult" time with the low grip

Normally if Hamilton is complaining that he doesn't have any grip he gets the fastest laps.

[coinlocket$]

If Ferrari has done something to their engine (new oil injection ?) they haven't done it to the other teams running a customer engine...

They can't touch the engine with the new regulation.
If you have a bad new engine at the start of the season you need to carry it till the next year.

[Cnut237]

Normally if Hamilton is complaining that he doesn't have any grip he gets the fastest laps.

Yes, that definitely happens during races!
This time it sounds different. Bit of a weird one, but apparently the track was resurfaced only a couple of weeks ago, and is leaking bitumen which is making the surface a bit greasy and causing loss of grip and some spins. Sounds like the sort of thing that isn't going to get rectified in time for the race. Could be chaos on Sunday!

[sana54210]

Hamilton will surely sign again and with 2021 being tech limited, he will have the best car again and considering he is Hamilton and he has best car dude will get the title once again, at this point I am not watching to see who will be first because we know who will be the first, I am watching to see if anything exciting will happen under him.

I am a big fan of Lando Norris myself because I like watching him at twitch, and he has been doing very well this season, next year I am hoping to see him do even better, I hope he will become a top 3 driver only behind awesome Mercedes cars (which is unlikely I know but one can hope!).

Ferrari on the other hand needs to have improvements beyond limitations, like limitations are already there yet they are so far away, so limitations are not the reason why their cars suck, they could improve even right now if they could but fail, so maybe new designer could change that.