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Atheism is irrational unless it is absolute nihilism this is simple fact. I am a non believer but one day we will make our own new world or find another  .. Atheism is irrational unless it is absolute nihilism this is simple fact.? So what you just said is a lie?.. I have just proved you wrong Atheism is irrational?.. Make our own new world find another new world.. Is what i say absolute nihilism?.. So as an atheist how am i irrational.. Make our own new world find another new world..A PURPOSE  .. Why do you think i keep saying science is the key to life?..It gives us a purpose.. You wont find it rattling bones praying or voodoo.. we have found out through science one day this planet will blow up or the sun will die?.. What's our purpose?.. So as an atheist what i said is it absolute nihilism..And is it useless to want to find new worlds or make another?.. Ok lets go a bit deeper looking at this through the worldview of moral nihilism. Moral nihilism is not the deepest form of nihilism but it is the most common. You say that your purpose in life is to work towards finding another world for humanity to live on. Lets take a look at your purpose from the perspective of nihilism: 1 ) We want to find a new world so that the human species continues to exist after the sun goes out. 2 ) We want the human species to continue to exist because they represent our genetic descendants and offspring. 3 ) We want our genetic descendants and offspring to survive because we care about them. 4 ) We care about them because evolution selected for this trait. 5 ) Evolution is the fitness and selection of life to its environment. 6 ) Life is a self replicating chemical reaction. 7 ) Chemical reactions are the spontaneous thing that happens when higher energy compounds are converted to lower energy compounds. 8 ) Spontaneous reactions occur throughout the universe and are ultimately processes of basic physics and chemistry. 9 ) Basic physics and chemistry have no value or meaning they just happen to occur. Therefore your "purpose" also has no objective value or meaning it is ultimately just the spontaneous result of simple physics and chemistry. Personally I entirely disagree with this argument. However, if you are not a moral nihilist you have to prove this argument is false not just say "no its not" or say you don't like it but prove it to be false. On a biological level the purpose in life is to pass your genetic material to future generations. This is hardwired into all living things, plants and animals. On a personal level, the purpose of one's live is to enjoy it. You only got one, so enjoy it in whatever you do. Believe in some bat shit crazy bronze age stuff or teach people about the evils of religions. Your pick. Why would the earth create a human?..symbiotic relationship or a cancer?.. On a personal level, the purpose of one's live is to enjoy it..If you had no money would you?.. Just a couple of things to think about  .. But everything you say is spot on..NEVER STOP teach people about the evils of religions.. Stops people from being STUPID  ..I.E blowing themselves up  ..
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Yes and that's why no god  .. Popcorn1 you appear to be both an atheist and a moral nihilist. Congratulations your worldview is appears to be rational. However, don't get too cocky. Remember: Evil is often RationalI have argued elsewhere that the philosophy of nihilism is not comparable with the sustained growth of knowledge and is thus inherently destructive. However, those arguments are too long and abstract to reproduce in this post. If you wish to read them they start here. Unfortunately time constraints will prevent me from participating further in this debate. I agree with af_newbie that this is indeed a fundamental choice. You can embrace a belief of existential nothingness that is inherently self-destructive or you can choose something better. Your pick. Some people have no choice  .. Finland Is Giving $587 A Month to 2,000 Citizens, No Questions Asked ... fortune.com/2017/01/03/finland-universal-basic-income-experiment/ 7 days ago - Finland Is Giving Nearly $600 a Month to 2,000 Jobless Citizens, No ... well as how people will spend the free money, reports Business Insider. If it happens then we got free choice  ..That is my fight free money for all rich or poor.. Everybody gets a starting point to spend..EVERYBODY  .. It's looking good..People say it makes people lazy..Yes if you give them to much it would.. But just enough to get you by makes you want to earn that little bit more.. Plus it saves on people mental health ..Well we all know what poverty can do.. Poverty cost?.. Police.. jails.. hospitals.. insurance claims.. courts..All will save money if people have a basic income.. I think a poor person who steals which is most poor people or be no need to steal?.. The crime they commit can cost the tax payer about 3 million over a criminals life time EASY.. Think about it.. The police call out..The cars they need..The cells and station..The jails they go to.. The court cost for lawyers and judges..The criminal damages.. The victim goes to hospital claims insurance for damages.. That's just 1 offence say he does 300 over his life time?.. Some people in the uk have 300 convictions for house theft..  .. But that's what having no money does to some people they end up doing stupid stuff to get it.. But with basic income peoples lives become much better and less crime and people grow healthier  .. And no they don't become LAZY..It's looking really good the outcome.. Remember even when you work you still get it..NO QUESTIONS ASKED..
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Elon Musk: Moving Toward Universal Basic Income Due To ... - YouTube Video for elon musk wants universal income youtube▶ 2:02 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJgtRBkFnfw4 Nov 2016 - Uploaded by CNBC Tesla and SpaceX founder Elon Musk told CNBC on Friday that economies would most likely need a form of Elon Musk - Universal incomes and robots. - YouTube Video for elon musk wants universal income youtube▶ 9:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJB9FrBQKCsBasic Income: Has its Time Come? - YouTube Video for elon musk wants universal income youtube▶ 26:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhugmXSHdfEU.S. Congress Discusses AI, Automation, Robotics and Basic Income ... Video for elon musk wants universal income youtube▶ 1:50:56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX06f3DPXt428 May 2016 - Uploaded by Singularity Lectures Universal Basic Income - YouTube Video for elon musk wants universal income youtube▶ 3:40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqESogRgrYw29 Sep 2016 - Uploaded by Inequality Media Robert Reich explains why a universal basic income may be the answer. Learn... I believe in us humans to do the right thing.. LETS GET THE OLD THINKERS OUT  ..They kill our children to line there own pockets  .. When people have money they have less children and the children turn out to be good citizens instead of bad ones ..
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Elon Musk: Moving Toward Universal Basic Income Due To ... - YouTube Video for elon musk wants universal income youtube▶ 2:02 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJgtRBkFnfw4 Nov 2016 - Uploaded by CNBC Tesla and SpaceX founder Elon Musk told CNBC on Friday that economies would most likely need a form of Elon Musk - Universal incomes and robots. - YouTube Video for elon musk wants universal income youtube▶ 9:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJB9FrBQKCsBasic Income: Has its Time Come? - YouTube Video for elon musk wants universal income youtube▶ 26:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhugmXSHdfEU.S. Congress Discusses AI, Automation, Robotics and Basic Income ... Video for elon musk wants universal income youtube▶ 1:50:56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX06f3DPXt428 May 2016 - Uploaded by Singularity Lectures Universal Basic Income - YouTube Video for elon musk wants universal income youtube▶ 3:40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqESogRgrYw29 Sep 2016 - Uploaded by Inequality Media Robert Reich explains why a universal basic income may be the answer. Learn... I believe in us humans to do the right thing..LETS GET THE OLD THINKERS OUT  ..They kill our children to line there own pockets  .. When people have money they have less children and the children turn out to be good citizens instead of bad ones .. Since God placed the knowledge of good and evil into people, you can trust in people, because God made them to be trustworthy. But, can you trust yourself? 
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Yes, Of course I always believe in God an I 'd like to say prayer with God while i'm working or travelling around and I 'm blessed by God. I feel happy and peaceful in God and I believe that God is real.
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Leftism is the religion which promises the individual he/she can entirely free, protected, while protecting the right of everyone else to be entirely free and protected.
Sounds very noble right? Read on...
All religions exist to protect the society (and the family) against the defection of the individual. Traditional religions argue that subjugation of some of the "evil" whims of the individual (e.g. extra-martial affairs) is necessary to maximize the success of the society, e.g. children who grow up without their fathers usually do statistically much worse in life in various metrics, including health.
Whereas, in leftism the "evil" is not "protecting the right of everyone else to be entirely free and protected". But what does this really mean? It is double-speak. It really means to steal from production so as to enable people to abandon their moral responsibilities so that the society can be utterly destroyed by hedonism and other ramifications of offering everyone "state-supported freedom" (which is a guaranteed megadeath hell in the future).
But don't dare tell the leftist, atheists that their idealism is corrupt, bankrupt, and disingenuous. They will gut you with a knife if you dare challenge the veracity of their beloved social justice.
"Entirely free" means you can do what ever you want and there are no NATURAL LAW ramifications (the State will always support your right to do what ever you want), as long as you support the State's right to protect and economically provide for everyone's right to do what ever they want. In other words, a "free for all" of political correctness and stealing.
But NATURAL LAW in inviolable. No State can protect every individual from the NATURAL LAW. And if you tell people they can be entirely free (including economic freedom for everyone and every whim), then you have lied.
In short, leftism is a Tragedy of the Commons. Thus is a false religion. It lies. It is Satan's religion.
To understand society we need to understand what our options are. There are only two ways to build and sustain a large and complex society. The first is oppression and slavery. Using oppression and slavery one can enforce control through violence. The second and far harder path is to build a free society but this path is challenging and slow as humans are not inherently designed to function in large groups. Whatever tribal hardwiring humans have it is designed for small groups where all members are known watched and observed. Maintaining a group larger then a tribe requires either the oppression of a police state or in the case of a free society a moral populace. This was well stated by Henning Web Prentis, Jr who described how the loss of morality would take a people from freedom to bondage. Paradoxically enough, the release of initiative and enterprise made possible by popular self-government ultimately generates disintegrating forces from within. Again and again after freedom has brought opportunity and some degree of plenty, the competent become selfish, luxury-loving and complacent, the incompetent and the unfortunate grow envious and covetous, and all three groups turn aside from the hard road of freedom to worship the Golden Calf of economic security.
The historical cycle seems to be: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to apathy; from apathy to dependency; and from dependency back to bondage once more." It is moral degradation that leads to bondage for it is moral strengthening that allows free societies to be built in the first place. This is why Ethical Monotheism is so important and the reason why so much that is good in the world came from the west. It is Ethical Monotheism that teaches us not to sin even when dealing with strangers. Whatever other factors may be present in an act of wrongdoing, folly is one that is never absent. To do a wrong act a man must for the moment think wrong; he must exercise bad judgment.
Sin, I repeat, in addition to anything else it may be, is always an act of wrong judgment. To commit a sin a man must for the moment believe that things are different from what they really are; he must confound values; he must see the moral universe out of focus; he must accept a lie as truth and see truth as a lie; he must ignore the signs on the highway and drive with his eyes shut; he must act as if he had no soul and was not accountable for his moral choices.
Sin is never a thing to be proud of. No act is wise that ignores remote consequences, and sin always does. Sin sees only today, or at most tomorrow; never the day after tomorrow, next month or next year. Death and judgment are pushed aside as if they did not exist...
Sin is basically an act of moral folly, and the greater the folly the greater the fool.
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No man can divide and conquer quite as effectively as the ethical "Monotheistic God" can. Look at how exceedingly well "Ethical Monotheistic God" has conquered for his kingdom right across the globe, through the religions that originated in the mid east, a multitude of beautifully organized NATURALLY formed indigenous cultures. Look how much more wonderfully integrated and balanced these cultures, who have existed for thousands of years on their own, have become since "God" has enacted his astoundingly magnificent ethical kingdom into their hearts - all across the globe. It is by far the best testament to his abundantly overflowing love and respect for the diversity (of cultures) he himself has ordained eons ago.
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Too bad Moonshadow is a scammer now. As a hardcore Jesus freak he would love this thread.
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No man can divide and conquer quite as effectively as the ethical "Monotheistic God" can. Look at how exceedingly well "Ethical Monotheistic God" has conquered for his kingdom right across the globe, through the religions that originated in the mid east, a multitude of beautifully organized NATURALLY formed indigenous cultures. Look how much more wonderfully integrated and balanced these cultures, who have existed for thousands of years on their own, have become since "God" has enacted his astoundingly magnificent ethical kingdom into their hearts - all across the globe. It is by far the best testament to his abundantly overflowing love and respect for the diversity (of cultures) he himself has ordained eons ago.
Just to clarify are we talking about the same cultures I think we are? http://siamagazin.com/10-chilling-true-stories-of-human-sacrifice/Mayan Blood Sacrifices Aztec Human Sacrifices Incan Children Sacrifices Child Sacrifice in Carthage Human Sacrifice in Hawaii  The reality is that theses societies and their "gods" were simply systems of oppression. If you don't understand that you don't understand history. The ‘darker link’ between ancient human sacrifice and our modern worldhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/04/05/the-darker-link-between-ancient-human-sacrifice-and-our-modern-world/?utm_term=.ad86596e364aThe ancients could kill you in a million different ways and give you a million different reasons why it needed to be done. In much of the pre-modern world, ritual sacrifice was framed as necessary for the good of the society at large — the only way to guarantee, say, a plentiful harvest or success in war.
But the priests and rulers who sanctioned such killings may have had another motive, a new study suggests. An analysis of more than seven dozen Austronesian cultures revealed that the practice of human sacrifices tended to make societies increasingly less egalitarian and eventually gave rise to strict, inherited class systems. In other words, ritual killings helped keep the powerful in power and everyone else in check.
That finding might seem intuitive — societies in which some members are habitually killed probably value certain lives over others — but it has broader implications, the researchers said in the journal Nature. It suggests a “darker link between religion and the evolution of modern hierarchical societies,” they write, in which “ritual killings helped humans transition from the small egalitarian groups of our ancestors and the large, stratified societies we live in today.”
The motivation and method of the killings differed across cultures, the researchers explain in a piece for the Conversation: Sacrifices could be demanded for the death of a chief, the construction of a home, the start of a war, the outbreak of disease or the violation of a social taboo. The victims might be strangled, drowned, bludgeoned, burned, buried, crushed with a newly built canoe, or rolled off a roof and then decapitated.
But the link between the sacrifices and social hierarchies seemed to transcend those differences. The victims were almost always of low social status, and the more stratified the culture was, the more prevalent ritual killings were likely to be.
This finding supports the “social control hypothesis” of human sacrifice, the researchers said. This idea suggests that ritual killings are a way to terrorize people into submission, allowing the religious and political leaders (and in many cultures, those were one and the same) who ordered the killings to consolidate power unopposed.
There are only two ways to build and sustain a large and complex society. The first is oppression and slavery. The second and far harder path is to build a free society. God and Ethical Monotheism help us build the latter. Nihilism destroys knowledge and thus leads to the former.
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But just what if the question refers to a more holistic God context. As in the age-old idea of God. The God beyond all else, the God governing everything. Across diverse religion, do anyone of you believe in that?
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But just what if the question refers to a more holistic God context. As in the age-old idea of God. The God beyond all else, the God governing everything. Across diverse religion, do anyone of you believe in that?
I believe in universal God, Parent of all humankind. I believe that God is parent not only for Christians, but also Buddhists, Hindu, Muslims, Jews, Atheists etc. If so, it means that we all have one common Parent and therefore we are all part of one global family, brothers and sisters. When people realized it, wars and conflicts will stop and era of peace and Blessing will start. It's so sad to see that many believers use religion as tool to attack others, less fortunate people. God loves us all equally.
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But just what if the question refers to a more holistic God context. As in the age-old idea of God. The God beyond all else, the God governing everything. Across diverse religion, do anyone of you believe in that?
I believe in universal God, Parent of all humankind. I believe that God is parent not only for Christians, but also Buddhists, Hindu, Muslims, Jews, Atheists etc. If so, it means that we all have one common Parent and therefore we are all part of one global family, brothers and sisters. When people realized it, wars and conflicts will stop and era of peace and Blessing will start. It's so sad to see that many believers use religion as tool to attack others, less fortunate people. God loves us all equally. There was never equality between people and never will. Religion was invented to control people. What is equality if people fall on their knees before the preacher. I don't believe in God. Religion is a vestige of the past, when there was no state.
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But just what if the question refers to a more holistic God context. As in the age-old idea of God. The God beyond all else, the God governing everything. Across diverse religion, do anyone of you believe in that?
I believe in universal God, Parent of all humankind. I believe that God is parent not only for Christians, but also Buddhists, Hindu, Muslims, Jews, Atheists etc. If so, it means that we all have one common Parent and therefore we are all part of one global family, brothers and sisters. When people realized it, wars and conflicts will stop and era of peace and Blessing will start. It's so sad to see that many believers use religion as tool to attack others, less fortunate people. God loves us all equally. There was never equality between people and never will. Religion was invented to control people. What is equality if people fall on their knees before the preacher. I don't believe in God. Religion is a vestige of the past, when there was no state. That's precisely what the atheism religion is doing. They are there to weaken the morality of people who are theists and want to do as God tells them. Wake up. Google and Youtube search on "atheism religion." Find out for yourself how atheists who say that atheism ISN'T a religion, are really just running around the whole idea, and not really getting into it. The more an atheist dogmatizes his atheistic position, the more he makes atheism a religion. 
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But just what if the question refers to a more holistic God context. As in the age-old idea of God. The God beyond all else, the God governing everything. Across diverse religion, do anyone of you believe in that?
I believe in universal God, Parent of all humankind. I believe that God is parent not only for Christians, but also Buddhists, Hindu, Muslims, Jews, Atheists etc. If so, it means that we all have one common Parent and therefore we are all part of one global family, brothers and sisters. When people realized it, wars and conflicts will stop and era of peace and Blessing will start. It's so sad to see that many believers use religion as tool to attack others, less fortunate people. God loves us all equally. There was never equality between people and never will. Religion was invented to control people. What is equality if people fall on their knees before the preacher. I don't believe in God. Religion is a vestige of the past, when there was no state. That's precisely what the atheism religion is doing. They are there to weaken the morality of people who are theists and want to do as God tells them. Wake up. Google and Youtube search on "atheism religion." Find out for yourself how atheists who say that atheism ISN'T a religion, are really just running around the whole idea, and not really getting into it. The more an atheist dogmatizes his atheistic position, the more he makes atheism a religion.  Atheism is not a religion. Believers worship God, atheists don't worship anyone. Moreover, they require evidence in order not to be deceived. Believers also deceived and they are not smart enough to see this.
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But just what if the question refers to a more holistic God context. As in the age-old idea of God. The God beyond all else, the God governing everything. Across diverse religion, do anyone of you believe in that?
I believe in universal God, Parent of all humankind. I believe that God is parent not only for Christians, but also Buddhists, Hindu, Muslims, Jews, Atheists etc. If so, it means that we all have one common Parent and therefore we are all part of one global family, brothers and sisters. When people realized it, wars and conflicts will stop and era of peace and Blessing will start. It's so sad to see that many believers use religion as tool to attack others, less fortunate people. God loves us all equally. There was never equality between people and never will. Religion was invented to control people. What is equality if people fall on their knees before the preacher. I don't believe in God. Religion is a vestige of the past, when there was no state. That's precisely what the atheism religion is doing. They are there to weaken the morality of people who are theists and want to do as God tells them. Wake up. Google and Youtube search on "atheism religion." Find out for yourself how atheists who say that atheism ISN'T a religion, are really just running around the whole idea, and not really getting into it. The more an atheist dogmatizes his atheistic position, the more he makes atheism a religion.  Atheism is not a religion. Believers worship God, atheists don't worship anyone. Moreover, they require evidence in order not to be deceived. Believers also deceived and they are not smart enough to see this. When atheists make the determination that there is no God, even though they know that they don't have enough factual knowledge to prove that there is no God, they are setting themselves up as though they were gods, just by making their determination. Atheism not only becomes a religion because of their beliefs that aren't necessarily true, but becomes a lie as well, because they know that they don't know that there is no God. 
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But just what if the question refers to a more holistic God context. As in the age-old idea of God. The God beyond all else, the God governing everything. Across diverse religion, do anyone of you believe in that?
I believe in universal God, Parent of all humankind. I believe that God is parent not only for Christians, but also Buddhists, Hindu, Muslims, Jews, Atheists etc. If so, it means that we all have one common Parent and therefore we are all part of one global family, brothers and sisters. When people realized it, wars and conflicts will stop and era of peace and Blessing will start. It's so sad to see that many believers use religion as tool to attack others, less fortunate people. God loves us all equally. There was never equality between people and never will. Religion was invented to control people. What is equality if people fall on their knees before the preacher. I don't believe in God. Religion is a vestige of the past, when there was no state. That's precisely what the atheism religion is doing. They are there to weaken the morality of people who are theists and want to do as God tells them. Wake up. Google and Youtube search on "atheism religion." Find out for yourself how atheists who say that atheism ISN'T a religion, are really just running around the whole idea, and not really getting into it. The more an atheist dogmatizes his atheistic position, the more he makes atheism a religion.  Atheism is not a religion. Believers worship God, atheists don't worship anyone. Moreover, they require evidence in order not to be deceived. Believers also deceived and they are not smart enough to see this. When atheists make the determination that there is no God, even though they know that they don't have enough factual knowledge to prove that there is no God, they are setting themselves up as though they were gods, just by making their determination. Atheism not only becomes a religion because of their beliefs that aren't necessarily true, but becomes a lie as well, because they know that they don't know that there is no God.  I could say the same about those who believe in God. You have no proof that God exists. In addition, scientists decided to prove that something is, not what something is not. So atheism is not a religion, but the opinion of scientists.
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No man can divide and conquer quite as effectively as the ethical "Monotheistic God" can. Look at how exceedingly well "Ethical Monotheistic God" has conquered for his kingdom right across the globe, through the religions that originated in the mid east, a multitude of beautifully organized NATURALLY formed indigenous cultures. Look how much more wonderfully integrated and balanced these cultures, who have existed for thousands of years on their own, have become since "God" has enacted his astoundingly magnificent ethical kingdom into their hearts - all across the globe. It is by far the best testament to his abundantly overflowing love and respect for the diversity (of cultures) he himself has ordained eons ago.
Just to clarify are we talking about the same cultures I think we are? There are only two ways to build and sustain a large and complex society. The first is oppression and slavery. The second and far harder path is to build a free society. From wiki the following snippets: 44,000 years ago Australia separated from Papua New Guinea...Aboriginal Australians one of the oldest living populations in the world and possibly the oldest outside of Africa, confirming they may also have the oldest continuous culture on the planet...the Aboriginal peoples have occupied the same territory continuously longer than any other human populations... Australia was isolated for a long time from the rest of Southeast Asia, and remained untouched by migrations and population expansions. This information suggest to me these cultures (more than 400 distinct Australian Aboriginal peoples) came a god damn long way on their own, without the interference of the Christian West. But now, we see this, also from wiki (under Aboriginal Australians) : Aboriginal Australians have disproportionately high rates of severe physical disability, as much as three times that of non-Aboriginal Australians, possibly due to higher rates of chronic diseases such as diabetes and kidney disease. One study reports that Aboriginal Australians are affected by a large number of infectious diseases, particularly in rural areas. These diseases include strongyloidiasis, hookworm caused by Ancylostoma duodenale, scabies, and streptococcal infections Another study examining the psychosocial functioning of high risk exposed and low risk exposed Aboriginal Australians aged 12–17 found that in high risk youths, personal wellbeing was protected by a sense of solidarity and common low socioeconomic status. However, in low risk youths, perceptions of racism caused poor psychosocial functioning. The researchers suggested that factors such as racism, discrimination, and alienation contributed to physiological health risks in families belonging to ethnic minorities Aboriginal Australians suffer from high rates of heart diseaseDue to the complex nature of the alcohol and domestic violence issue in the Northern Territory, proposed solutions are contentious Modern Aboriginal Australians tend to have nutritionally poor diets, especially in rural areas where higher food costs drive people to consume cheaper, lower quality foods. The average diet contains too many refined carbohydrates and excessive salt, while lacking fruit and vegetables It seems to me the Christian West did a tremendous job in fucking up these intracately formed, finely balanced, NATURAL cultures.
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But just what if the question refers to a more holistic God context. As in the age-old idea of God. The God beyond all else, the God governing everything. Across diverse religion, do anyone of you believe in that?
I believe in universal God, Parent of all humankind. I believe that God is parent not only for Christians, but also Buddhists, Hindu, Muslims, Jews, Atheists etc. If so, it means that we all have one common Parent and therefore we are all part of one global family, brothers and sisters. When people realized it, wars and conflicts will stop and era of peace and Blessing will start. It's so sad to see that many believers use religion as tool to attack others, less fortunate people. God loves us all equally. There was never equality between people and never will. Religion was invented to control people. What is equality if people fall on their knees before the preacher. I don't believe in God. Religion is a vestige of the past, when there was no state. That's precisely what the atheism religion is doing. They are there to weaken the morality of people who are theists and want to do as God tells them. Wake up. Google and Youtube search on "atheism religion." Find out for yourself how atheists who say that atheism ISN'T a religion, are really just running around the whole idea, and not really getting into it. The more an atheist dogmatizes his atheistic position, the more he makes atheism a religion.  Atheism is not a religion. Believers worship God, atheists don't worship anyone. Moreover, they require evidence in order not to be deceived. Believers also deceived and they are not smart enough to see this. When atheists make the determination that there is no God, even though they know that they don't have enough factual knowledge to prove that there is no God, they are setting themselves up as though they were gods, just by making their determination. Atheism not only becomes a religion because of their beliefs that aren't necessarily true, but becomes a lie as well, because they know that they don't know that there is no God.  I could say the same about those who believe in God. You have no proof that God exists. In addition, scientists decided to prove that something is, not what something is not. So atheism is not a religion, but the opinion of scientists. The point wasn't to state that God exists or doesn't exist. The point is just as you have said, above. Like as theists have religion in their theism, even so atheists have religion in their atheism. 
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But just what if the question refers to a more holistic God context. As in the age-old idea of God. The God beyond all else, the God governing everything. Across diverse religion, do anyone of you believe in that?
I believe in universal God, Parent of all humankind. I believe that God is parent not only for Christians, but also Buddhists, Hindu, Muslims, Jews, Atheists etc. If so, it means that we all have one common Parent and therefore we are all part of one global family, brothers and sisters. When people realized it, wars and conflicts will stop and era of peace and Blessing will start. It's so sad to see that many believers use religion as tool to attack others, less fortunate people. God loves us all equally. There was never equality between people and never will. Religion was invented to control people. What is equality if people fall on their knees before the preacher. I don't believe in God. Religion is a vestige of the past, when there was no state. That's precisely what the atheism religion is doing. They are there to weaken the morality of people who are theists and want to do as God tells them. Wake up. Google and Youtube search on "atheism religion." Find out for yourself how atheists who say that atheism ISN'T a religion, are really just running around the whole idea, and not really getting into it. The more an atheist dogmatizes his atheistic position, the more he makes atheism a religion.  I'm not an atheist. I believe in Vaishnavism and the supreme being or god is Vishnu in which Krishna is gods avatar. The holy texts are the Vedas and Upanishads. The Vedas are among the oldest sacred texts in the world. The Samhitas date to roughly 1700–1100 BC when Rig Veda was authored. Your religion is a relative newcomer to the god scene. Why did your god not show himself to the devotees of the Sri Sampradaya the believers of the true and first god of the people? Was he afraid of Vishnu's power? The Bhagavad Gita tells us, “The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it" and “delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed.” Your search for something greater than yourself has led you astray toward false gods because your bewildered mind is your enemy and your intellect and reasoning are corrupted. Accept Vishnu and set your mind at peace before it's too late.
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But just what if the question refers to a more holistic God context. As in the age-old idea of God. The God beyond all else, the God governing everything. Across diverse religion, do anyone of you believe in that?
I believe in universal God, Parent of all humankind. I believe that God is parent not only for Christians, but also Buddhists, Hindu, Muslims, Jews, Atheists etc. If so, it means that we all have one common Parent and therefore we are all part of one global family, brothers and sisters. When people realized it, wars and conflicts will stop and era of peace and Blessing will start. It's so sad to see that many believers use religion as tool to attack others, less fortunate people. God loves us all equally. There was never equality between people and never will. Religion was invented to control people. What is equality if people fall on their knees before the preacher. I don't believe in God. Religion is a vestige of the past, when there was no state. That's precisely what the atheism religion is doing. They are there to weaken the morality of people who are theists and want to do as God tells them. Wake up. Google and Youtube search on "atheism religion." Find out for yourself how atheists who say that atheism ISN'T a religion, are really just running around the whole idea, and not really getting into it. The more an atheist dogmatizes his atheistic position, the more he makes atheism a religion.  I'm not an atheist. I believe in Vaishnavism and the supreme being or god is Vishnu in which Krishna is gods avatar. The holy texts are the Vedas and Upanishads. The Vedas are among the oldest sacred texts in the world. The Samhitas date to roughly 1700–1100 BC when Rig Veda was authored. Your religion is a relative newcomer to the god scene. Why did your god not show himself to the devotees of the Sri Sampradaya the believers of the true and first god of the people? Was he afraid of Vishnu's power? The Bhagavad Gita tells us, “The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it" and “delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed.” Your search for something greater than yourself has led you astray toward false gods because your bewildered mind is your enemy and your intellect and reasoning are corrupted. Accept Vishnu and set your mind at peace before it's too late. If you have any questions about or for God, the answers are in the bible, or you can ask Him in the judgment at the last day... if your knees aren't quaking too hard. 
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