Do you believe in god?

[iluvbitcoins]

Here's the way western Christians see Jesus or Iesous.

https://sdanotes.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/jesus-pic.jpg

Considering where he was born, this is what he really looked like.

http://www.shunya.net/Pictures/Syria/palmyra/BedouinMan.jpg

Check the Bible for the description of O.T. King David. He was ruddy in appearance, probably a redhead or blonde.

Jesus was a physical descendant of David's. We don't know that today's M.E. people are exemplary of people 2,000 years ago.

A redhead or a blonde in Israel?

What the fuck

Are you serious? 

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Never mind what colour his hair was. Did he ever exist in the first place, that's the question.

Christianity was a sophisticated government propaganda exercise to pacify the subject of the Roman Empire.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2451087/American-Bible-scholar-claims-ancient-confessions-prove-story-Jesus-Christ-entirely-fabricated-Roman-aristocrats.html

* Don't bother replying BADlogic, you'll only lie anyway. Thanks. *

[iluvbitcoins]

Never mind what colour his hair was. Did he ever exist in the first place, that's the question.

Christianity was a sophisticated government propaganda exercise to pacify the subject of the Roman Empire.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2451087/American-Bible-scholar-claims-ancient-confessions-prove-story-Jesus-Christ-entirely-fabricated-Roman-aristocrats.html

* Don't bother replying BADlogic, you'll only lie anyway. Thanks. *

Very insteresting theory

But were the Jews really so important mighty Rome would have to create a religion in order to pacify them?

If so, why would there be so many banishments and murders of Christians up to 313 AC

[BADecker]

Here's the way western Christians see Jesus or Iesous.

https://sdanotes.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/jesus-pic.jpg

Considering where he was born, this is what he really looked like.

http://www.shunya.net/Pictures/Syria/palmyra/BedouinMan.jpg

Check the Bible for the description of O.T. King David. He was ruddy in appearance, probably a redhead or blonde.

Jesus was a physical descendant of David's. We don't know that today's M.E. people are exemplary of people 2,000 years ago.

A redhead or a blonde in Israel?

What the fuck

Are you serious? 

I gave you the reasoning. Bible history shows that this may easily have been so.

[CoinCube]

Never mind what colour his hair was. Did he ever exist in the first place, that's the question.

Christianity was a sophisticated government propaganda exercise to pacify the subject of the Roman Empire.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2451087/American-Bible-scholar-claims-ancient-confessions-prove-story-Jesus-Christ-entirely-fabricated-Roman-aristocrats.html

* Don't bother replying BADlogic, you'll only lie anyway. Thanks. *

Very insteresting theory

But were the Jews really so important mighty Rome would have to create a religion in order to pacify them?

If so, why would there be so many banishments and murders of Christians up to 313 AC

Dumb theory under Rome the Jews were a defeated people utterly crushed not once but twice and driven into slavery and dispersed exile. For Rome the Jews were a rebellious afterthought a defeated people.

Interesting history on the Jewish rebellions against Rome:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish%E2%80%93Roman_wars

[BADecker]

Never mind what colour his hair was. Did he ever exist in the first place, that's the question.

Christianity was a sophisticated government propaganda exercise to pacify the subject of the Roman Empire.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2451087/American-Bible-scholar-claims-ancient-confessions-prove-story-Jesus-Christ-entirely-fabricated-Roman-aristocrats.html

* Don't bother replying BADlogic, you'll only lie anyway. Thanks. *

Very insteresting theory

But were the Jews really so important mighty Rome would have to create a religion in order to pacify them?

If so, why would there be so many banishments and murders of Christians up to 313 AC

It is more than a theory.  There is an actual physical evidence that it is true.
Titus Flavius Josephus was a real person, a first century Jewish historian.  Wrote a nice story, got a Roman citizenship, the rest is history :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYRoYl7i6U

 
https://i.imgsafe.org/bddc7023a5.png

Note how many times the guy in the video pushes his glasses back on his nose. Much of the time they didn't even need it. Is he shy and nervous? Can't he find a good optician? Doesn't he know how to adjust his own glasses by bending them a little? Maybe he would see history in a whole different light if he could just get his glasses settled onto his face.

[af_newbie]

Here's the way western Christians see Jesus or Iesous.

https://sdanotes.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/jesus-pic.jpg

Considering where he was born, this is what he really looked like.

http://www.shunya.net/Pictures/Syria/palmyra/BedouinMan.jpg

Check the Bible for the description of O.T. King David. He was ruddy in appearance, probably a redhead or blonde.

Jesus was a physical descendant of David's. We don't know that today's M.E. people are exemplary of people 2,000 years ago.

A redhead or a blonde in Israel?

What the fuck

Are you serious?  

I gave you the reasoning. Bible history shows that this may easily have been so.

Bible history?  Bible is a bunch of horseshit:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0

You guys should take out the obvious BS. 

[BADecker]

Here's the way western Christians see Jesus or Iesous.

https://sdanotes.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/jesus-pic.jpg

Considering where he was born, this is what he really looked like.

http://www.shunya.net/Pictures/Syria/palmyra/BedouinMan.jpg

Check the Bible for the description of O.T. King David. He was ruddy in appearance, probably a redhead or blonde.

Jesus was a physical descendant of David's. We don't know that today's M.E. people are exemplary of people 2,000 years ago.

A redhead or a blonde in Israel?

What the fuck

Are you serious?  

I gave you the reasoning. Bible history shows that this may easily have been so.

Bible history?  Bible is a bunch of horseshit:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0

You guys should take out the obvious BS.  

Why do you think like this?

The Bible is a miraculous book. It can't exist the way it does. One simple fact alone makes it virtually impossible. That fact is the writings found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Research into the Dead Sea Scrolls shows that the Old Testament was almost exactly the same 2,000 years following the time the Dead Sea Scrolls were placed in the Qumran Caves. How can this be, since the only way the later copies came into being was through people copying them? There was guidance from God to make it happen this way.

First, if the Bible were unimportant, there would have been very little copying of it. Second, if the Bible were unimportant, the copies of it after the Dead Sea Scrolls would have changed far more than the tiny bit that they did.

In addition, consider the following chart from https://noapologizing.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/more-reliable-aristotle-or-the-new-testament/:

Author		Date Written		Number of Copies		Accuracy of Copies
Plato		427-347 B.C.		7		---
Aristotle		384-322 B.C.		49		---
Homer (Iliad)		900 B.C		643		95%
NewTestament		1st Cent. A.D. (50-100 A.D.)		5,600		99.5%

Further from the site:

This is an incredible chart.  The New Testament has 5,600 copies…In Greek.  The “in Greek” is significant because the original text was written in Greek (common language of the day).  If we add copies from various languages such as Latin the total number of copies would go as high as 24,000.  That is 24,000 copies of the original documents, the original writings of the Apostles.  No other document in antiquity can claim such a volume.  Other famous writers of antiquity fail this test.  This is not to say that the copies of these other documents are inadequate or that the copies are wrong.  It is simply to say that you have much less quantity with which to verify its contents and, therefore, much less confidence in those copies.

Consider Plato.  Plato is well known for his writing “The Republic”.  There are only 7 copies of the original.  How confident can one be that the translation we read of “The Republic” is the one that Plato wrote?  Confidence level has to be low because you only have 7 copies to compare against one another.  However, historically speaking, “The Republic” has been accepted as an accurate recording of Plato’s words.

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In other words, the Bible is way beyond something that mankind would write and hand down to their children and families. The Bible is important. The Bible is truth. The fact of its power shows that God is behind it. If God weren't behind it, we would only have, say, one or two hundred copies at most.

Wake up. You are trying to fight God.

[QuestionAuthority]

The Rigveda (Sanskrit: ऋग्वेद ṛgveda, from ṛc "praise, shine" and veda "knowledge") is an ancient Indian collection of Vedic Sanskrit hymns. It is one of the four canonical sacred texts (śruti) of Hinduism known as the Vedas. The text is a collection of 1,028 hymns and 10,600 verses, organized into ten books (Mandalas). Originally composed between 1700-1500BC it remains the oldest written scripture available. Thousands of copies were written down hundreds of years before the advent of Christianity.

[dippididodaday]

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Further from the site:

This is an incredible chart.  The New Testament has 5,600 copies…In Greek.  The “in Greek” is significant because the original text was written in Greek (common language of the day).  If we add copies from various languages such as Latin the total number of copies would go as high as 24,000.  That is 24,000 copies of the original documents, the original writings of the Apostles.  No other document in antiquity can claim such a volume.  Other famous writers of antiquity fail this test.  This is not to say that the copies of these other documents are inadequate or that the copies are wrong.  It is simply to say that you have much less quantity with which to verify its contents and, therefore, much less confidence in those copies.

Consider Plato.  Plato is well known for his writing “The Republic”.  There are only 7 copies of the original.  How confident can one be that the translation we read of “The Republic” is the one that Plato wrote?  Confidence level has to be low because you only have 7 copies to compare against one another.  However, historically speaking, “The Republic” has been accepted as an accurate recording of Plato’s words.

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Haha, really? Now this is complete BS BADdecker. I only need 1 copy of the original to provide more than adequate proof when the contents thereof is verified against the ONE and ONLY original, which does not exist at all.

[BADecker]

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Further from the site:

This is an incredible chart.  The New Testament has 5,600 copies…In Greek.  The “in Greek” is significant because the original text was written in Greek (common language of the day).  If we add copies from various languages such as Latin the total number of copies would go as high as 24,000.  That is 24,000 copies of the original documents, the original writings of the Apostles.  No other document in antiquity can claim such a volume.  Other famous writers of antiquity fail this test. This is not to say that the copies of these other documents are inadequate or that the copies are wrong.  It is simply to say that you have much less quantity with which to verify its contents and, therefore, much less confidence in those copies.

Consider Plato.  Plato is well known for his writing “The Republic”.  There are only 7 copies of the original.  How confident can one be that the translation we read of “The Republic” is the one that Plato wrote?  Confidence level has to be low because you only have 7 copies to compare against one another.  However, historically speaking, “The Republic” has been accepted as an accurate recording of Plato’s words.

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Haha, really? Now this is complete BS BADdecker. I only need 1 copy of the original to provide more than adequate proof when the contents thereof is verified against the ONE and ONLY original, which does not exist at all.

I saw that. You said, "Haha, really?!" So, you are joking around. After all, when the copies are almost exactly the same over hundreds or thousands of years, and when they are hand copied hundreds or thousands of times while remaining almost the same, why do you need the original? You would believe the original less than any of the copies, anyway. How do I know? Because you brush off the miracle even though you know that it is miraculous.

In addition, nobody knows that the originals of the books that make up the Bible do not exist.

[iluvbitcoins]

I gave you the reasoning. Bible history shows that this may easily have been so.

You gave me shit, Israelities were not bloody blonde
Hell, they're not blonde today when they have white genes

It is more than a theory.  There is an actual physical evidence that it is true.
Titus Flavius Josephus was a real person, a first century Jewish historian.  Wrote a nice story, got a Roman citizenship, the rest is history :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYRoYl7i6U

 

Nooo

Stop giving me documentaries!

I stayed up till 2am yesterday watching the last one  

I'm not saying that Tit Flavius was the guy Jesus was based on, I'm just saying Christanity probably wasn't invented because of Jews.
They weren't such an important factor in the Roman Empire, it might have just been the start of the idea.

[fasdorcas]

yes i believe because i don't think that world exist by its own and there is no one who create it...... i don't think so that the order of the world..... the working of every thing in order..... the day comes after night..... the solar system..... the nature came into existance by its own..... there is some one behind this...

[BADecker]

I gave you the reasoning. Bible history shows that this may easily have been so.

You gave me shit, Israelities were not bloody blonde
Hell, they're not blonde today when they have white genes

Of course, you lived back then. Or you have seen some snapshots of people from back then.

Haven't you figured out that change is occurring all over the place, around the world? If you believed in evolution, you would realize this.

[nkc007]

Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

Yes, I do believe in God

I don't know whether they exist or not.
It's my belief and I don't know the reason

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Never mind what colour his hair was. Did he ever exist in the first place, that's the question.

Christianity was a sophisticated government propaganda exercise to pacify the subject of the Roman Empire.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2451087/American-Bible-scholar-claims-ancient-confessions-prove-story-Jesus-Christ-entirely-fabricated-Roman-aristocrats.html

* Don't bother replying BADlogic, you'll only lie anyway. Thanks. *

Very insteresting theory

But were the Jews really so important mighty Rome would have to create a religion in order to pacify them?

If so, why would there be so many banishments and murders of Christians up to 313 AC

It is more than a theory.  There is an actual physical evidence that it is true.
Titus Flavius Josephus was a real person, a first century Jewish historian.  Wrote a nice story, got a Roman citizenship, the rest is history :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYRoYl7i6U

 
https://i.imgsafe.org/bddc7023a5.png

Note how many times the guy in the video pushes his glasses back on his nose. Much of the time they didn't even need it. Is he shy and nervous? Can't he find a good optician? Doesn't he know how to adjust his own glasses by bending them a little? Maybe he would see history in a whole different light if he could just get his glasses settled onto his face.

Nervous I expect. Someone like you might try to execute him.

[QuestionAuthority]

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Further from the site:

This is an incredible chart.  The New Testament has 5,600 copies…In Greek.  The “in Greek” is significant because the original text was written in Greek (common language of the day).  If we add copies from various languages such as Latin the total number of copies would go as high as 24,000.  That is 24,000 copies of the original documents, the original writings of the Apostles.  No other document in antiquity can claim such a volume.  Other famous writers of antiquity fail this test. This is not to say that the copies of these other documents are inadequate or that the copies are wrong.  It is simply to say that you have much less quantity with which to verify its contents and, therefore, much less confidence in those copies.

Consider Plato.  Plato is well known for his writing “The Republic”.  There are only 7 copies of the original.  How confident can one be that the translation we read of “The Republic” is the one that Plato wrote?  Confidence level has to be low because you only have 7 copies to compare against one another.  However, historically speaking, “The Republic” has been accepted as an accurate recording of Plato’s words.

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Haha, really? Now this is complete BS BADdecker. I only need 1 copy of the original to provide more than adequate proof when the contents thereof is verified against the ONE and ONLY original, which does not exist at all.

I saw that. You said, "Haha, really?!" So, you are joking around. After all, when the copies are almost exactly the same over hundreds or thousands of years, and when they are hand copied hundreds or thousands of times while remaining almost the same, why do you need the original? You would believe the original less than any of the copies, anyway. How do I know? Because you brush off the miracle even though you know that it is miraculous.

In addition, nobody knows that the originals of the books that make up the Bible do not exist.

Just admit it GODecker, my religion is older than yours, it was first, it has more written manuscripts before yours and people believed in it before your garden of eden was created. I win.

Hinduism is the true religion. Unlike your religion of hate and fear, Hinduism prescribes the eternal duties, such as honesty, refraining from injuring living beings (ahimsa), patience, forbearance, self-restraint, and compassion, among others. Varnashrama Dharma teaches an ideal system of a democratic, multicultural, global society with the values of equality and equal opportunities for all, the right to education, liberty, the dignity of the individual and participation in governance without fear.

Christianity crushes intelligence because it is a miserable system of fearmongering where your god rules through power, pain of death and eternal torture. Mine is a system of self education and awakening that enlightens the intellect, grows the spirit and celebrates sexuality, freedom and liberation from evil through self improvement. I can't understand why anyone, other than the most ignorant people, would want to believe in that miserable excuse of a religion called Christianity.

[BADecker]

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Further from the site:

This is an incredible chart.  The New Testament has 5,600 copies…In Greek.  The “in Greek” is significant because the original text was written in Greek (common language of the day).  If we add copies from various languages such as Latin the total number of copies would go as high as 24,000.  That is 24,000 copies of the original documents, the original writings of the Apostles.  No other document in antiquity can claim such a volume.  Other famous writers of antiquity fail this test. This is not to say that the copies of these other documents are inadequate or that the copies are wrong.  It is simply to say that you have much less quantity with which to verify its contents and, therefore, much less confidence in those copies.

Consider Plato.  Plato is well known for his writing “The Republic”.  There are only 7 copies of the original.  How confident can one be that the translation we read of “The Republic” is the one that Plato wrote?  Confidence level has to be low because you only have 7 copies to compare against one another.  However, historically speaking, “The Republic” has been accepted as an accurate recording of Plato’s words.

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Haha, really? Now this is complete BS BADdecker. I only need 1 copy of the original to provide more than adequate proof when the contents thereof is verified against the ONE and ONLY original, which does not exist at all.

I saw that. You said, "Haha, really?!" So, you are joking around. After all, when the copies are almost exactly the same over hundreds or thousands of years, and when they are hand copied hundreds or thousands of times while remaining almost the same, why do you need the original? You would believe the original less than any of the copies, anyway. How do I know? Because you brush off the miracle even though you know that it is miraculous.

In addition, nobody knows that the originals of the books that make up the Bible do not exist.

Just admit it GODecker, my religion is older than yours, it was first, it has more written manuscripts before yours and people believed in it before your garden of eden was created. I win.

Hinduism is the true religion. Unlike your religion of hate and fear, Hinduism prescribes the eternal duties, such as honesty, refraining from injuring living beings (ahimsa), patience, forbearance, self-restraint, and compassion, among others. Varnashrama Dharma teaches an ideal system of a democratic, multicultural, global society with the values of equality and equal opportunities for all, the right to education, liberty, the dignity of the individual and participation in governance without fear.

Christianity crushes intelligence because it is a miserable system of fearmongering where your god rules through power, pain of death and eternal torture. Mine is a system of self education and awakening that enlightens the intellect, grows the spirit and celebrates sexuality, freedom and liberation from evil through self improvement. I can't understand why anyone, other than the most ignorant people, would want to believe in that miserable excuse of a religion called Christianity.

1 John 4:18:

There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

So, if you have Jesus salvation, there is no fear in the sense of being afraid.

You can see the Biblical age of the earth here http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

[BADecker]

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Further from the site:

This is an incredible chart.  The New Testament has 5,600 copies…In Greek.  The “in Greek” is significant because the original text was written in Greek (common language of the day).  If we add copies from various languages such as Latin the total number of copies would go as high as 24,000.  That is 24,000 copies of the original documents, the original writings of the Apostles.  No other document in antiquity can claim such a volume.  Other famous writers of antiquity fail this test. This is not to say that the copies of these other documents are inadequate or that the copies are wrong.  It is simply to say that you have much less quantity with which to verify its contents and, therefore, much less confidence in those copies.

Consider Plato.  Plato is well known for his writing “The Republic”.  There are only 7 copies of the original.  How confident can one be that the translation we read of “The Republic” is the one that Plato wrote?  Confidence level has to be low because you only have 7 copies to compare against one another.  However, historically speaking, “The Republic” has been accepted as an accurate recording of Plato’s words.

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Haha, really? Now this is complete BS BADdecker. I only need 1 copy of the original to provide more than adequate proof when the contents thereof is verified against the ONE and ONLY original, which does not exist at all.

I saw that. You said, "Haha, really?!" So, you are joking around. After all, when the copies are almost exactly the same over hundreds or thousands of years, and when they are hand copied hundreds or thousands of times while remaining almost the same, why do you need the original? You would believe the original less than any of the copies, anyway. How do I know? Because you brush off the miracle even though you know that it is miraculous.

In addition, nobody knows that the originals of the books that make up the Bible do not exist.

Just admit it GODecker, my religion is older than yours, it was first, it has more written manuscripts before yours and people believed in it before your garden of eden was created. I win.

Hinduism is the true religion. Unlike your religion of hate and fear, Hinduism prescribes the eternal duties, such as honesty, refraining from injuring living beings (ahimsa), patience, forbearance, self-restraint, and compassion, among others. Varnashrama Dharma teaches an ideal system of a democratic, multicultural, global society with the values of equality and equal opportunities for all, the right to education, liberty, the dignity of the individual and participation in governance without fear.

Christianity crushes intelligence because it is a miserable system of fearmongering where your god rules through power, pain of death and eternal torture. Mine is a system of self education and awakening that enlightens the intellect, grows the spirit and celebrates sexuality, freedom and liberation from evil through self improvement. I can't understand why anyone, other than the most ignorant people, would want to believe in that miserable excuse of a religion called Christianity.

1 John 4:18:

There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

So, if you have Jesus salvation, there is no fear in the sense of being afraid.

You can see the Biblical age of the earth here http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

Are the biblical years different from real years.  You guys seem to have methaphores for everything.  6 days were not really 6 days.  Maybe one biblical year is really 750,000 years.

I suggest you travel to Sweden and examine the 9,500 old LIVING tree.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/29879/6-oldest-trees-world

http://mentalfloss.com/sites/default/legacy/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/old-swedish-tree.jpg

Ah, let's see. Is the guy around who planted that tree 9,500 years ago? Well, are some of his family still around? How about some of his buddies? Did he leave a written record that has been handed down, parents to children, over thousands of years like the Bible record was? Well, maybe God came and told somebody that it was that old, right? Or were you there yourself back then?

Science guesswork isn't cutting it here.

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Are the biblical years different from real years.  You guys seem to have methaphores for everything.  6 days were not really 6 days.  Maybe one biblical year is really 750,000 years.

4.54 × 10⁹ years / 6 days = 7.56 × 10⁸
7.56 × 10⁸ / 6 = 1.261 × 10⁸

Make one biblical day equal 1.261 × 10⁸ our years then it works.