Do you believe in god?

[bettercrypto]

I voted yes.  I always believe that God and gods exist.  It was thought ever since I was born, actually it was inculcated in my mind.  As proof of it is the power governing the natures and the universe to move accordingly and synchronously with each other.  There is this  Power that keep them in place together.  

[BADecker]

Then I came along in this forum and showed the proof that God exists:

<debunked pseudoscience proof stuff>......

Then along came people that know what they are talking about and blew it out of the water.

"The Joint" was the best I think. He absolutely smashed it to pieces and all you could do was put your fingers in your ears and go "la la la".
And the funniest thing of all............      "The Joint" is a theist.  

You continually say there is rebuttal. But you never show any of it. By not showing any of it, you rebut yourself.

Just use the search facility using "The Joint" as the search subject user. You'll soon figure it out.

The Joint and I never discussed it that much.    

1) Yes I know. He found it very little effort to shoot it down so very quickly, which you never recovered from.
2) All the easier for you to find it. (Not that you want to find it of course.)

I don't know why he stopped posting. But he stopped. Can't have a discussion when someone stops discussing.

You said all that you had to say back then. Why would he waste time debunking it again anyway? Once is enough. Once is all we need. Case closed.

As you can see, I am still here talking about it.    

There's lots of flat earth people still talking as well.

As they say; talk is cheap.

The reason why your talk is cheap is, you can't rebut the proof and evidence that God exists. All you can do is say that God doesn't exist, or that you have rebutted, when you really haven't.

Come on! Express the rebuttal itself if you have one. Rebut the info here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

At least af_newbie makes a halfhearted attempt to rebut entropy now and again.

[hyudien]

1. Humans are a product of evolution from simpler life forms.  The physical evidence is OVERWHELMING.
Universe was most likely created out of nothing.  Probably a product of some sort of singularity in other universes and we are the side effect of some other
process.  Just like Hawking radiation has a corresponding particles that enter the black holes and exist on the inside but not on the outside, our Big Bang is a
result of some other process elsewhere.  The latest theory is that our universe is sort of a black hole and we are holographic projections of the information on the event horizon.  Our universe is probably seen as some sort of object (black hole or whatever the observers in that observing universe call it) in some other universe.  The bottom line is there are many unknowns, questions to be answered.

2. We are all hairless apes.  There is no 'if/maybe' about this.  

3. People believe in God because most people need answers to feel safe.  Others investigate and observe to discover the reality and try to explain the unknowns.

• If you say about evolution theory it's impossible, human's with monkey are very different. If darwin theory says that animals evolved to allow them to survive, and if they can't they'll be die. So, i'll give you an example about evolution theory: They said: "giraffe have a short neck but they experience at their neck, if can't follow changes that occurred then they would be die". So, if monkey can't follow changes that occurred then they would be die, But until now we can see everywhere many monkey still exist in the world.
• How many thousands of years it needs the theory of evolution? Since first century until no 2017 all of human not different, just a little changed that occur in humans, but still have same human structure.
• Feel safe from what? If want to safe, why not go to police office?

[stats]

Then I came along in this forum and showed the proof that God exists:

<debunked pseudoscience proof stuff>......

Then along came people that know what they are talking about and blew it out of the water.

"The Joint" was the best I think. He absolutely smashed it to pieces and all you could do was put your fingers in your ears and go "la la la".
And the funniest thing of all............      "The Joint" is a theist.  

You continually say there is rebuttal. But you never show any of it. By not showing any of it, you rebut yourself.

Just use the search facility using "The Joint" as the search subject user. You'll soon figure it out.

The Joint and I never discussed it that much.    

1) Yes I know. He found it very little effort to shoot it down so very quickly, which you never recovered from.
2) All the easier for you to find it. (Not that you want to find it of course.)

I don't know why he stopped posting. But he stopped. Can't have a discussion when someone stops discussing.

You said all that you had to say back then. Why would he waste time debunking it again anyway? Once is enough. Once is all we need. Case closed.

As you can see, I am still here talking about it.    

There's lots of flat earth people still talking as well.

As they say; talk is cheap.

The reason why your talk is cheap is, you can't rebut the proof and evidence that God exists. All you can do is say that God doesn't exist, or that you have rebutted, when you really haven't.

Come on! Express the rebuttal itself if you have one. Rebut the info here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

At least af_newbie makes a halfhearted attempt to rebut entropy now and again.

Your words have been defunked.....

Your words mean nothing.....

Yet you continue to throw them around as a "Bible"

Are you a prophet? Are you trying to get your own fictional book?

Your words are NOT proof. You are a false prophet trying to prove a point by using your own words as proof.

That is not proof.... that is delusional.

[QuestionAuthority]

Then I came along in this forum and showed the proof that God exists:

<debunked pseudoscience proof stuff>......

Then along came people that know what they are talking about and blew it out of the water.

"The Joint" was the best I think. He absolutely smashed it to pieces and all you could do was put your fingers in your ears and go "la la la".
And the funniest thing of all............      "The Joint" is a theist.  

You continually say there is rebuttal. But you never show any of it. By not showing any of it, you rebut yourself.

Just use the search facility using "The Joint" as the search subject user. You'll soon figure it out.

The Joint and I never discussed it that much.    

1) Yes I know. He found it very little effort to shoot it down so very quickly, which you never recovered from.
2) All the easier for you to find it. (Not that you want to find it of course.)

I don't know why he stopped posting. But he stopped. Can't have a discussion when someone stops discussing.

You said all that you had to say back then. Why would he waste time debunking it again anyway? Once is enough. Once is all we need. Case closed.

As you can see, I am still here talking about it.    

There's lots of flat earth people still talking as well.

As they say; talk is cheap.

The reason why your talk is cheap is, you can't rebut the proof and evidence that God exists. All you can do is say that God doesn't exist, or that you have rebutted, when you really haven't.

Come on! Express the rebuttal itself if you have one. Rebut the info here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

At least af_newbie makes a halfhearted attempt to rebut entropy now and again.

I think you need to be re-butted by your priest, again and again.

Entropy increasing, complexity collapsing?  You plant a seed, add water, energy from the Sun and in 30 years you have a fucking 50' tree.  so much for your 'devolving' argument.
We have evolved from simpler life forms.  Look at morphology and histology in a historical context.  The evidence is overwhelming.  Never mind genetic studies.

The idiots who say "well, bubba, we did not change since the time of Jesus so evolution is not possible?"  WTF.  You are fucking carrying 4-10% of Neanderthal genes.
We share 98% of DNA with chimps.

Education is the key.  Unfortunately, most Christian a-holes are 'homeschooled', whatever that means.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH_wPUVlJ38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3gPpPoWEBg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gqhlRdOxJg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrQyduTQRkI

Just to clear up what "homeschooling" means.

Parents without enough money, time or care about their kids education tell the school board they will teach their children at home. The parents rarely have enough of an education themselves to form coherent sentences and usually far less than required to teach. Almost zero/none/no homeschooling parents have a teaching degree.

Almost zero/none/no Christian homeschooling parents teach alternate theories that contradict their beliefs. They refuse to teach evolution or even the basics of other world religions. They much prefer to raise racist, sexist, bigoted freaks that go out into the world and do horrible things. Child sexual assault, torture, sociopathological programming, murder are taught in homeschooling.

For more info read Homeschooling Invisible Children http://hsinvisiblechildren.org

[CoinCube]

Just to clear up what "homeschooling" means.

Parents without enough money, time or care about their kids education tell the school board they will teach their children at home. The parents rarely have enough of an education themselves to form coherent sentences and usually far less than required to teach. Almost zero/none/no homeschooling parents have a teaching degree.

Almost zero/none/no Christian homeschooling parents teach alternate theories that contradict their beliefs. They refuse to teach evolution or even the basics of other world religions. They much prefer to raise racist, sexist, bigoted freaks that go out into the world and do horrible things. Child sexual assault, torture, sociopathological programming, murder are taught in homeschooling.

For more info read Homeschooling Invisible Children http://hsinvisiblechildren.org

Wow someone really loves state power and state control. I have the resources that have enabled me to purchase a home in a very good school distinct so I utilize the public school system. It is a good value in my area.

However, if I was stuck in an area with a very poor school system (and they exist) there is no way in a million years I would send my kids into an environment that is highly likely to damage them. I would work harder and have my wife stay home and home-school. Its not an ideal solution as is implies the lack of an adequate community to pool resources but sometimes it is the best option for parents.

Your comments that homeschooling is a mechanism for "raising racist, sexist, bigoted freaks that go out into the world and do horrible things. Child sexual assault, torture, sociopathological programming, murder..." Tells me that you are completely out of touch with society and the decisions and trade-offs that parents seeking to raise healthy and well adjusted children must make.

[QuestionAuthority]

Just to clear up what "homeschooling" means.

Parents without enough money, time or care about their kids education tell the school board they will teach their children at home. The parents rarely have enough of an education themselves to form coherent sentences and usually far less than required to teach. Almost zero/none/no homeschooling parents have a teaching degree.

Almost zero/none/no Christian homeschooling parents teach alternate theories that contradict their beliefs. They refuse to teach evolution or even the basics of other world religions. They much prefer to raise racist, sexist, bigoted freaks that go out into the world and do horrible things. Child sexual assault, torture, sociopathological programming, murder are taught in homeschooling.

For more info read Homeschooling Invisible Children http://hsinvisiblechildren.org

Wow someone really loves state power and state control. I have the resources that have enabled me to purchase a home in a very good school distinct so I utilize the public school system. It is a good value in my area.

However, if I was stuck in an area with a very poor school system (and they exist) there is no way in a million years I would send my kids into an environment that is highly likely to damage them. I would work harder and have my wife stay home and home-school. Its not an ideal solution as is implies the lack of an adequate community to pool resources but sometimes it is the best option for parents.

Your comments that homeschooling is a mechanism for "raising racist, sexist, bigoted freaks that go out into the world and do horrible things. Child sexual assault, torture, sociopathological programming, murder..." Tells me that you are completely out of touch with society and the decisions and trade-offs that parents seeking to raise healthy and well adjusted children must make.

Why don't you look at the site I linked and read the stories. It's more common than you think. Homeschooling should be illegal. The "trade-offs" of home schooling children are, raising children than can have well balanced social relationships with people not directly related to them or sequestering children and stifling their social development. There are very few places in the U.S. where public school education isn't available and in some of those places parents have the ability to send their children away for the school year.

[EyeRis]

why to don`t belive in god ? you must belive in something

[CoinCube]

What makes these parents think they can do a better job than a group of teachers with advanced degrees and years of teaching experience.  Pure ignorance.

But then again, they are Christian so ignorance runs in their blood.

No it is mainly because these parents believe that schools no longer teach the most important lesson children must learn that of character education. Schooling has become a moral void which is actually quite dangerous for a young child. Parents who homeschool judge the cost of educational loss to be offset the by the gains in establishing an education based on character development free of the drugs, gangs, teenage sex, and liberal social morals so dominant in today's schools. Its not a trade off I have judged worth it but I understand it.

This short 5 minute video may help to clarify the issue for you:

How Do We Make Society Better?

[thephill97]

many people in this days don`t belive in good look arround the people goes crazy.

[CoinCube]

I think such parents are just being selfish.  Overprotective, they just want to keep kids at home.

This form of abuse should be illegal.

I think parents are trying to do what they feel is best for their children. Empowering the state to override parental will should only be done in clear and extreme cases of abuse.

This is not one of those situations.

Homeschooled children are required to take regular exams to show they are learning and receiving an education. If their performance is too poor they have to return to traditional schooling.

That is a reasonable compromise.

Also reasonable are school voucher programs that allow parents to pull out of bad public schools and enroll in private or religious schools.

[natgeomancer]

Let me just clear 'god' is different from God. God is the real one who is the creator of the universe. And god'/s are the ones who are created to be worshiped by pagans and even the people today.

[gabmen]

Let me just clear 'god' is different from God. God is the real one who is the creator of the universe. And god'/s are the ones who are created to be worshiped by pagans and even the people today.

I think you're taking this a bit too literally. The term God and god are coined by people like you and me. It doesn't make sense to differentiate the two. The term God didn't even exist until a couple of decades back and so I don't think capitalization of the first letter would have bearing at all oh my

[QuestionAuthority]

Let me just clear 'god' is different from God. God is the real one who is the creator of the universe. And god'/s are the ones who are created to be worshiped by pagans and even the people today.

I think you're taking this a bit too literally. The term God and god are coined by people like you and me. It doesn't make sense to differentiate the two. The term God didn't even exist until a couple of decades back and so I don't think capitalization of the first letter would have bearing at all oh my

I found this old photo of Jesus and his Apostles. Maybe we should ask them how to spell it properly.

 

I found this photo of Mary holding her son Jesus with Mary's mother in the background.

[CoinCube]

I cannot speak for the US, but here in Canada, most people enroll their kids in 'Christian/Catholic' schools because those schools have less problems with drugs and gun violence.  
The schools are not better, but they are safer.

My kids go to 'Christian' schools so are many kids from 'Muslim' and 'Buddist' families. The religion class goes until Grade 10, then the IB (International Baccalaureate) program starts.

Only hardcore religious fanatics homeschool their children.  Amish and Mennonite communities 'school' programs run until Grade 7, then kids go to work in construction, farms etc.  There are some Mennonite kids
that go to 'Mennonite University', but most end up doing menial jobs all their lives.

To teach kids at home requires a lot of effort (if you want your kids to succeed in university).  
It is easier to rely on the government school programs, teaching aids, and augment/enhance the curriculum at home as required.

Going off on a tangent and homeschool them on all the Bible nonsense and hate is just harmful, IMHO.

Safer schools that teach character education are better. Schools that do a better job teaching the basics reading, writing, arithmetic are also better. Schools better in one area but weaker in another involves trade-offs. The people best positioned to make a decision on which option is best for children are parents.

I agree that teaching kids at home requires tremendous effort if you want your kids to succeed at a university. However, it is not impossible.

I also agree that it is much easier to pool resources at a school. For parents who feel that government schools are too unsafe or too immoral most of the time the best option would be a strictly religious school. However, those are expensive and not located in every geographic area.

For parents who have the ability to home-school their children and the time, but lack the financial resources or the geography to send their children to a religious school homeschooling is a rational choice and there is nothing wrong with it.

Obvious we agree that if parents are not capable of education their children on the basics to at least to the level of a below average traditional school they should not be homeschooling. The purpose of standardized testing for home-schooled children is to intercede in these cases.
  

[dippididodaday]

Let me just clear 'god' is different from God. God is the real one who is the creator of the universe. And god'/s are the ones who are created to be worshiped by pagans and even the people today.

I think you're taking this a bit too literally. The term God and god are coined by people like you and me. It doesn't make sense to differentiate the two. The term God didn't even exist until a couple of decades back and so I don't think capitalization of the first letter would have bearing at all oh my

I found this old photo of Jesus and his Apostles. Maybe we should ask them how to spell it properly.

 

I found this photo of Mary holding her son Jesus with Mary's mother in the background.

He's a cute little boy, isn't he? Poor Mary though, still so young, and being forced into this 'being mother of the savior of the Jews stuff' is just completely unfair and wrong. Wasn't she supposed to also have had an uninterrupted life of a little girl like all the other girls?

In those ancient times the people spoke Greek so "Jesus" is a complete misnomer. His name would have been prononced "Iesous" or "Jeshua" in Hebrew, but definitely nothing at all like "Jesus".

[QuestionAuthority]

Let me just clear 'god' is different from God. God is the real one who is the creator of the universe. And god'/s are the ones who are created to be worshiped by pagans and even the people today.

I think you're taking this a bit too literally. The term God and god are coined by people like you and me. It doesn't make sense to differentiate the two. The term God didn't even exist until a couple of decades back and so I don't think capitalization of the first letter would have bearing at all oh my

I found this old photo of Jesus and his Apostles. Maybe we should ask them how to spell it properly.

 

I found this photo of Mary holding her son Jesus with Mary's mother in the background.

He's a cute little boy, isn't he? Poor Mary though, still so young, and being forced into this 'being mother of the savior of the Jews stuff' is just completely unfair and wrong. Wasn't she supposed to also have had an uninterrupted life of a little girl like all the other girls?

In those ancient times the people spoke Greek so "Jesus" is a complete misnomer. His name would have been prononced "Iesous" or "Jeshua" in Hebrew, but definitely nothing at all like "Jesus".

Isn't it funny that Christians want to keep telling the story of the preteen girl that had her vagina ripped apart by the lord.

Here's the way western Christians see Jesus or Iesous.



Considering where he was born, this is what he really looked like.

[popcorn1]

Jesus was nothing compared to this guy..

 Homeless Man Does Unbelievable Act Social Experiment - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tkVPnrj1q0

[BADecker]

Here's the way western Christians see Jesus or Iesous.

https://sdanotes.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/jesus-pic.jpg

Considering where he was born, this is what he really looked like.

http://www.shunya.net/Pictures/Syria/palmyra/BedouinMan.jpg

Check the Bible for the description of O.T. King David. He was ruddy in appearance, probably a redhead or blonde.

Jesus was a physical descendant of David's. We don't know that today's M.E. people are exemplary of people 2,000 years ago.

[QuestionAuthority]

Here's the way western Christians see Jesus or Iesous.

https://sdanotes.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/jesus-pic.jpg

Considering where he was born, this is what he really looked like.

http://www.shunya.net/Pictures/Syria/palmyra/BedouinMan.jpg

Check the Bible for the description of O.T. King David. He was ruddy in appearance, probably a redhead or blonde.

Jesus was a physical descendant of David's. We don't know that today's M.E. people are exemplary of people 2,000 years ago.

Typical Christian, change reality to suit your prejudices and preferences.