[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform

[martinholly167]

i buy any quantity ICN offer ....1ICN=0.50 dollar

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[martinholly167]

offer quantity

[ImHash]

i buy any quantity ICN offer ....

435 I have  will you buy now? no delay like others and empty words.

[martinholly167]

yes

[martinholly167]

ICN sell someone or not

[szafa]

Proposes to buy on LIQUI.

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ICN sell someone or not

https://i.imgsafe.org/21da271acf.png

That is my proof so if you send to my address 0.333BTC I will then tell Sladana to send to your account 435 ICN.

This is my address: 1FJoef9N8r2mwEMXdM9ju6UUfHaGCS2Gym

[zaki12]

ICN sell someone or not

selling 530 ICN for 0.35 BTC 

[kingcrimson]

I also buy every amount for ICO PRICE.

Lot's of emotions going on, like a roller coaster.

First you wanted to sell 400.000 ICN, I PM you & CC Iconomi to take a quarter, now you want to buy any amount for ICO price.

If somebody is not holding your balls, better hold your balls by yourself and calm down.

First i wanted to sell but my friend told me to keep calm and to buy how much i can because he is sure we will see a big raise. x4 in his opinion is nothing for launch

4X ICO, even the iou's aren't selling for that. After four delays in a row we will be lucky to get 2X.

Doesn't make sense, noone even know what the price will be, look at Lisk for example, wasn't Lisk delayed a month and was way above 2x the price? 

Yes lisk raised to 6X ICO, and waves was 3X ICO.

[waszurHölle]

Yes lisk raised to 6X ICO, and waves was 3X ICO.

Waves was never 3x the ico price, even worse, they were BELOW ico price

[Toro iskandar]

Yes lisk raised to 6X ICO, and waves was 3X ICO.

Waves was never 3x the ico price, even worse, they were BELOW ico price

ICN to 100x ICO   

[kalpit]

To everyone those who were asking about exchange. I emailed Bittrex asking about ICN exchange.
Here is the reply I got    

Ryan Hentz (Bittrex)

Oct 13, 22:20 PDT

Thanks for the request. Our policy is to not comment on whether we will launch coins but we only add coins under active development with high community demand. Please encourage the development team to contact support@bittrex.com.

We gauge demand based off of tweets, hash power, length of bitcointalk thread, volume on other exchanges, etc. Follow us on twitter @bittrexexchange and tweet about how much you like this coin and Bittrex. We respond to creative and insightful posts to help market your favorite coins and Bittrex. I'd also consider coming to our irc channel #bittrex on irc.freenode.net and do some guerrilla marketing. The traders there can help you gain exposure for your coin.

Thanks,
Ryan @ Bittrex
Follow us on Twitter: https[Suspicious link removed]xchange
For real time chat with the Bittrex team and other crypto-currency enthusiasts, join our slack at http://slack.bittrex.com


Either iconomi hasn't yet contacted bittrex or they are on NDAs.

I request developers to contact bittrex if they haven't.

The other conditions specified like btt length, popularity are easily qualified by Iconomi.

I hope we will see exchanges soon after ICN launch ( expected launch of ICN -25 October ).

Anyhow, I would not be dumping my 2k + ICNs. I just posted this to help those asking these questions.

[Xtrata]

To everyone those who were asking about exchange. I emailed Bittrex asking about ICN exchange.
Here is the reply I got    

Ryan Hentz (Bittrex)

Oct 13, 22:20 PDT

Thanks for the request. Our policy is to not comment on whether we will launch coins but we only add coins under active development with high community demand. Please encourage the development team to contact support@bittrex.com.

We gauge demand based off of tweets, hash power, length of bitcointalk thread, volume on other exchanges, etc. Follow us on twitter @bittrexexchange and tweet about how much you like this coin and Bittrex. We respond to creative and insightful posts to help market your favorite coins and Bittrex. I'd also consider coming to our irc channel #bittrex on irc.freenode.net and do some guerrilla marketing. The traders there can help you gain exposure for your coin.

Thanks,
Ryan @ Bittrex
Follow us on Twitter: https[Suspicious link removed]xchange
For real time chat with the Bittrex team and other crypto-currency enthusiasts, join our slack at http://slack.bittrex.com


Either iconomi hasn't yet contacted bittrex or they are on NDAs.

I request developers to contact bittrex if they haven't.

The other conditions specified like btt length, popularity are easily qualified by Iconomi.

I hope we will see exchanges soon after ICN launch ( expected launch of ICN -25 October ).

Anyhow, I would not be dumping my 2k + ICNs. I just posted this to help those asking these questions.

You know that his a standard answer for that question right? Doesn't matter who is asking

[Mefestofel_Mefis]

ICONOMI,

Someone asked this question on Reddit.  Could you provide an answer to this?
 

I am not based in the US, but wouldn't it be necessary for US citizens to be accredited investors in order to be allowed to invest in this project? ICN is clearly not an app token, it has very obvious characteristics of a security, even promising a dividend. Isn't this what makes listing or offering to accredited investors only necessary in the States?

https://www.reddit.com/r/icocrypto/comments/4zuk5h/iconomi_icn/d7a41in

ICONOMI,

I came across another related comment to the above.  It's in reference to the Golem token sale, but same rules would apply to any ICO.

References: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEC_v._W._J._Howey_Co http://apps.americanbar.org/buslaw/blt/2005-05-06/forcier.shtml

The Howie Test:

Under the Howey Test, an interest will be classified as a security only if the following three elements are present:

*an investment of money has been made,
*in a common enterprise and
*the investor has the expectation of profits, which profits are expected to arise solely, or substantially, from the efforts of the promoter or third party.

So here is what is going on. You can insist all night and all day that your "Tokens" are "just crypto, man, it's unregulated dude" until you are blue in the face.

Problem is, according to the Howie Test, if it looks like a duck walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a security, must be registered with the securities and exchange commission, must be sold only to accredited investors worth more than $1 million excluding the value of their home and with 5 years of trailing income of $200,000 per year, and you can only promote the security (like you are doing here) if you are a Registered Rep for a bona fide Registered Broker Dealer.

Here's where your token becomes a security "It is important to note that GNT will NOT be used for payments within the Golem network: Its only role is to grant the owner a share in the Golem network’s fee revenue."

Oooffff! You SAY it's a token. But according to the Howie test, people have to pay in ETH (which has a dollar value), the token carries no votes and no say in the management (so 2 and 3, a third party will do the work) and you are selling it with the expectation that a profit will be made by the "investor" from the fees and distributed to token holders.

No voting rights + dividends = Preferred Share!

If the SEC notices, or if you piss off anyone in the slightest, particularly because you are raising well over a million dollars---you could go to jail just for this post!

Everyone involved in the management (and your little investing club) is also selling securities, unregistered, without a licence! They need to all STFU until the lawyer tells you how right I am.

Crypto exchanges wont be able to sell or carry this, because it is a preferred share, and while they are Fincen licenced, they are not SEC registered broker dealers! It would have to be traded on a stock exchange, and stock exchanges don't do crypto, so you'll have to create paper!

You guys really, really need to get someone from the business faculty (this is a school project right?) to corroberate everything I have told you, and call a securities lawyer for advice before selling this like it was fucking Dogecoin.

Dogecoin didn't pay dividends and no promises of profits were made---and they didn't use financial terms like "ICO".

I STRONGLY suggest you remove this post and any others where your non-licenced ass has been peddling and promoting unregistered securities to unsophisticated investors. This post is enough to put you in jail.

If you read ETH's ICO info, you'll note that they are very, very careful not to promise any profit at all.

This is where you are fucking up. Call a lawyer.

Your welcome. (I am a former LICENCED Stock Broker).

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ethinvestorsgroup/comments/4wu46p/golem_token_sale/d6a7lat

Can your legal team respond to this and guarantee you're not putting yourselves, investors, and the ICONOMI platform at risk of litigation?

We'll check and address this. Not now. Could also be with a blog post.

Very interested to hear more discussion on this, bumping this so it doesn't get buried in the bounty-spam spam

Guys, I have just obtained information from people close to developers. The transfer reason not in ETH the POLONIEX and BITTREX exchanges don't want to place ICN at the exchanges. Because of specified in this message. They can't make under the law. Developers don't know how to solve this problem.

[ShooterXD]

You really deserve a big LOL.

Why ICONOMI dont will be listed?

Ure high, very high!

[marty123]

I am buying ICN for 5 btc at ICO rate, message me if you have to sell.

[Mefestofel_Mefis]

Crypto exchanges wont be able to sell or carry this, because it is a preferred share, and while they are Fincen licenced, they are not SEC registered broker dealers! It is the official answer from the exchanges. In total because of dividends.
It is the checked information. I don't joke now.  

[kalpit]

One question - will exchanges be eligible for dividends or will only the ones who hold them of exchanges or on ICONOMI website be eligible?

Firstly, you cannot use exchanges to receive icns.
If you use some wallet such as myetherwallet. You can receive dividends in that Wallet in ETHs. Also if you decide to keep them in iconomi itself, you'll still receive dividends. Most probably, you would get dividends  in a eth online Wallet by iconomi.

Why wouldn't you be able to use exchanges to receive ICN if it is listed there?

It's written on Iconomi website that you cannot use exchanges. I don't the exact reason. But if iconomi has stated it, there must be a valid reason behind it.

To everyone those who were asking about exchange. I emailed Bittrex asking about ICN exchange.
Here is the reply I got    

Ryan Hentz (Bittrex)

Oct 13, 22:20 PDT

Thanks for the request. Our policy is to not comment on whether we will launch coins but we only add coins under active development with high community demand. Please encourage the development team to contact support@bittrex.com.

We gauge demand based off of tweets, hash power, length of bitcointalk thread, volume on other exchanges, etc. Follow us on twitter @bittrexexchange and tweet about how much you like this coin and Bittrex. We respond to creative and insightful posts to help market your favorite coins and Bittrex. I'd also consider coming to our irc channel #bittrex on irc.freenode.net and do some guerrilla marketing. The traders there can help you gain exposure for your coin.

Thanks,
Ryan @ Bittrex
Follow us on Twitter: https[Suspicious link removed]xchange
For real time chat with the Bittrex team and other crypto-currency enthusiasts, join our slack at http://slack.bittrex.com


Either iconomi hasn't yet contacted bittrex or they are on NDAs.

I request developers to contact bittrex if they haven't.

The other conditions specified like btt length, popularity are easily qualified by Iconomi.

I hope we will see exchanges soon after ICN launch ( expected launch of ICN -25 October ).

Anyhow, I would not be dumping my 2k + ICNs. I just posted this to help those asking these questions.

You know that his a standard answer for that question right? Doesn't matter who is asking

Maybe, it's a standard answer. But see , i things to be highlighted here are-
1. Iconomi team would have to contact bittrex for icn to be added to it.
2. Decision for a coin is taken on basis of length of btt ( very long for iconomi ), tweets ( iconomi team regularly tweets and many people are demanding exchanges)

Wait! A user here is saying it won't be listed on bittrex. He is trolling , Right?

[favdesu]

Crypto exchanges wont be able to sell or carry this, because it is a preferred share, and while they are Fincen licenced, they are not SEC registered broker dealers! It is the official answer from the exchanges. In total because of dividends.
It is the checked information. I don't joke now.  

Fuck Off you dickhead

well, this could be very true. mycelium tokens are not listed due to the same reason.

I don't think that's a big problem, ICN can be listed on decentralized exchanges such as bitsquare or bitshares... the INDEX and Perfomance fund should see no problems with listings though

[Mefestofel_Mefis]

One question - will exchanges be eligible for dividends or will only the ones who hold them of exchanges or on ICONOMI website be eligible?

Firstly, you cannot use exchanges to receive icns.
If you use some wallet such as myetherwallet. You can receive dividends in that Wallet in ETHs. Also if you decide to keep them in iconomi itself, you'll still receive dividends. Most probably, you would get dividends  in a eth online Wallet by iconomi.

Why wouldn't you be able to use exchanges to receive ICN if it is listed there?

It's written on Iconomi website that you cannot use exchanges. I don't the exact reason. But if iconomi has stated it, there must be a valid reason behind it.

To everyone those who were asking about exchange. I emailed Bittrex asking about ICN exchange.
Here is the reply I got    

Ryan Hentz (Bittrex)

Oct 13, 22:20 PDT

Thanks for the request. Our policy is to not comment on whether we will launch coins but we only add coins under active development with high community demand. Please encourage the development team to contact support@bittrex.com.

We gauge demand based off of tweets, hash power, length of bitcointalk thread, volume on other exchanges, etc. Follow us on twitter @bittrexexchange and tweet about how much you like this coin and Bittrex. We respond to creative and insightful posts to help market your favorite coins and Bittrex. I'd also consider coming to our irc channel #bittrex on irc.freenode.net and do some guerrilla marketing. The traders there can help you gain exposure for your coin.

Thanks,
Ryan @ Bittrex
Follow us on Twitter: https[Suspicious link removed]xchange
For real time chat with the Bittrex team and other crypto-currency enthusiasts, join our slack at http://slack.bittrex.com


Either iconomi hasn't yet contacted bittrex or they are on NDAs.

I request developers to contact bittrex if they haven't.

The other conditions specified like btt length, popularity are easily qualified by Iconomi.

I hope we will see exchanges soon after ICN launch ( expected launch of ICN -25 October ).

Anyhow, I would not be dumping my 2k + ICNs. I just posted this to help those asking these questions.

You know that his a standard answer for that question right? Doesn't matter who is asking

Maybe, it's a standard answer. But see , i things to be highlighted here are-
1. Iconomi team would have to contact bittrex for icn to be added to it.
2. Decision for a coin is taken on basis of length of btt ( very long for iconomi ), tweets ( iconomi team regularly tweets and many people are demanding exchanges)

Wait! A user here is saying it won't be listed ion bittrex. He is trolling , Right?

I don't joke. The exchanges don't want to accept ICN because it was carried to securities because of dividend payouts.

Crypto exchanges wont be able to sell or carry this, because it is a preferred share, and while they are Fincen licenced, they are not SEC registered broker dealers!

It isn't problems with ETH network, developers try to solve this problem. Therefore play for time.

If they don't manage to solve it only that YOBIT will be able to accept them.