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May 17, 2012, 10:52:34 AM
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Great first post 10 hours and 4 more to go Cool
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May 17, 2012, 11:17:45 AM
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Hi Moderator,

Now that i have spent 4 hours and have 5 posts, is it automatic that my permissions to post else were are invoked or do i need to PM someone

Thanks in advance

Pradeep

I  believe, you need to pm the one who started discussion, the original post seems to indicate so. But the warn, chapcha code is very hard!

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May 18, 2012, 07:16:20 AM
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This sucks there is topic I want to post about but cant.

Lazy work around and worst rule set of any forum on the internet.
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May 18, 2012, 05:32:42 PM
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Seem reasonable.
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May 18, 2012, 05:55:17 PM
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i am curious to know whether the newbie rules have stopped any spam. i do not mind waiting a few hours (and a few posts) in order to report a bug with one of the mining apps. having a large aversion to spammers, i'd really like to know if this rule has resulted in effective spam reduction.
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May 18, 2012, 06:42:24 PM
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i am curious to know whether the newbie rules have stopped any spam. i do not mind waiting a few hours (and a few posts) in order to report a bug with one of the mining apps. having a large aversion to spammers, i'd really like to know if this rule has resulted in effective spam reduction.

It has been very effective in stopping spam. There is no spam outside of the newbie-accessible sections. It's also fairly effective at deterring trolls, since "drive-by" trolling is eliminated (as well as drive-by contributing, unfortunately...), and getting banned means you have to go through the newbie process again.

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May 18, 2012, 06:48:27 PM
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i am curious to know whether the newbie rules have stopped any spam. i do not mind waiting a few hours (and a few posts) in order to report a bug with one of the mining apps. having a large aversion to spammers, i'd really like to know if this rule has resulted in effective spam reduction.

It has been very effective in stopping spam. There is no spam outside of the newbie-accessible sections. It's also fairly effective at deterring trolls, since "drive-by" trolling is eliminated (as well as drive-by contributing, unfortunately...), and getting banned means you have to go through the newbie process again.

how was the current threshold derived? has there always been a newbie "wait period" or was it added after-the-fact and the parameters tweaked? it's something i've suggested to a few other forums i've come across that have spam issues.
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May 18, 2012, 07:54:01 PM
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how was the current threshold derived? has there always been a newbie "wait period" or was it added after-the-fact and the parameters tweaked? it's something i've suggested to a few other forums i've come across that have spam issues.

Originally there was no restriction. For a very short time the limit was just 50 posts. Then the current time+posts restriction was put in place. These numbers work alright. If I wanted to stick with newbie restrictions forever, I'd probably add some more restrictions so people couldn't lurk for 4 hours and then post 5 posts in a few minutes.

It's planned to remove these newbie restrictions in the future, once the moderation system is improved. I don't like blocking drive-by contributors. It should require almost no effort for an unregistered user to post something. The low "barrier to contribution" is how 4chan and Wikipedia got so popular.

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May 18, 2012, 09:17:28 PM
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how was the current threshold derived? has there always been a newbie "wait period" or was it added after-the-fact and the parameters tweaked? it's something i've suggested to a few other forums i've come across that have spam issues.

Originally there was no restriction. For a very short time the limit was just 50 posts. Then the current time+posts restriction was put in place. These numbers work alright. If I wanted to stick with newbie restrictions forever, I'd probably add some more restrictions so people couldn't lurk for 4 hours and then post 5 posts in a few minutes.

It's planned to remove these newbie restrictions in the future, once the moderation system is improved. I don't like blocking drive-by contributors. It should require almost no effort for an unregistered user to post something. The low "barrier to contribution" is how 4chan and Wikipedia got so popular.

Yes, I agree with the drive-by contributor aspect, which is why I am going to request a pre-emptive whitelisting. I have spent who-knows-how-many hours anonymously lurking over quite a few months, but it wasn't until I had a problem with the mining app I use that I wanted to participate in a thread. Smiley Same thing happened with wikipedia: I first contributed there in 2003, but didn't make any significant contributions until 2 years later.
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May 19, 2012, 06:04:45 PM
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Okay, thanks, I am restricted as well.

Ok, gracias, estoy restricto tambien... §
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May 20, 2012, 08:18:29 PM
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I'm happy with these restrictions, 50 posts is rather silly - No one would even stay on the forum if we had to pass 50 posts to be granted.
Every forum should have restrictions, there is too much spam, & idiocracy these days.
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May 20, 2012, 08:46:30 PM
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To much troll in the forum. I see.
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May 20, 2012, 10:04:57 PM
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Even if I don t like these restrictions...I guess they are necessary  Undecided
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May 21, 2012, 12:08:24 AM
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Even if I don t like these restrictions...I guess they are necessary  Undecided
This is pretty much my thoughts exactly, while I'm glad the issue (that I wasn't here for though) is at least greatly reduced, this is still a pain.  Signed up to post asking for coins back from the glitch on bitcoinduit. Good luck to all the other souls on here.
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May 21, 2012, 02:20:24 AM
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Makes sense. Just wondering I have spent 5+ hours here before registering is that still eligible?
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May 21, 2012, 03:14:18 AM
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Makes sense. Just wondering I have spent 5+ hours here before registering is that still eligible?

Sorry, but only the time spent while logged in counts towards that total.

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May 21, 2012, 08:13:50 AM
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Anything that reduces trolling is welcome in my book.
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May 21, 2012, 11:32:40 AM
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I really like this system, it keeps the trolls away.
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May 21, 2012, 08:48:42 PM
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Took me a while to figure this one out, i was searching for the reply post button.  Cry
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May 21, 2012, 10:19:22 PM
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I dont like it.. Trolls have time and will simply colltect that 5 posts in a few minutes... I they had no time they wouldnt troll around.. And other users dont get it why they cant post..
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