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Author Topic: [ANN] Zcoin (XZC) - Implementing Zerocoin technology for financial privacy  (Read 455419 times)
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October 25, 2016, 04:59:29 AM
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ZCOIN+ZCASH This coins dev is ocminer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=43526
I have evidence , disclosures soon

ZCASH https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1626185.0 DEV ocminer
only ocminer launch thread ZCASH

ZCOIN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638450.0 DEV ocminer
only ocminer compile one miner for zcoin
Big Dump ZCOIN coming



Oh wow I'd love to be one of the founders of one of those coins but unfortunately I'm just the pool guy Smiley

I confirm ocminer made the pool. very suspicious act for a pool owner. hmm

let me see if i can read between the lines here.

zcoinGPU claimed to have an optimised GPU miner for Zcoin. He wanted to sell it for 0.3 BTC a pop. To convince potential buyers he need to show proof of hashrate achieved through such GPU miner. One potential buyer asked  zcoinGPU to put his GPU miner to work on ocminer's pool with a specific username.  zcoinGPU tried it by photoshopping but no one was convinced. He then tried to bribe ocminer to help change the name of top hashrate owner on his pool but ocminer being an honest guy denied. So zcoinGPU is pissed off with ocminer and is bad mouthing him.

Conclusion:
 zcoinGPU is a scammer trying to sell GPU miner which does not exist.
 ocminer has been running mining pools reliably since more than 5 years and have high trust rating on bitcointalk.

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October 25, 2016, 05:25:32 AM
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The inflation is very different for fiat vs Zcoin.

For fiat 2% inflation in next year equates to inflation of 0.005% daily.

For ZEC, 1000% inflation in next year equates to 3% daily inflation rate.

Good luck with buying ZEC now and holding it long term.

It's all about supply and demand. I think most here wished they could have bought Bitcoin in the first few thousand blocks regardless of its inflation.

Comparing bitcoin to ZEC is a bit stretch. It was the only one coin then. today there are thousands of coin and hundreds are promising.

If you want things in perspective, ZCASH is ethereum and ZEC is expanse.
> ZCASH is ethereum and ZEC is expanse.  < pure wisdom  Cry

Then what would be like ethereum classic?

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October 25, 2016, 06:55:46 AM
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What do you think, how will the launch of ZEC affect XZC ?
Will XZC price go up or will it drop?

As i can see ZEC = ethereum , XZC = ethereum classic
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October 25, 2016, 08:49:58 AM
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Please note to those who doubt that Roger Ver is invested in Zcoin, this is published on Bitcoin.com (the site that he owns too)

https://news.bitcoin.com/zero-knowledge-zcoin-launching-soon/

Look at the disclaimer at the end of the article:
"Disclaimer: Bitcoin.com owner Roger Ver is invested in ZCoin."

Roger is invested in both Zcoin and Zcash.

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October 25, 2016, 09:23:51 AM
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Roger is smart. Be like Roger.
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October 25, 2016, 09:43:37 AM
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Why has it been trading on trex 5 days away from the official release?

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October 25, 2016, 09:47:13 AM
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I'm still CPU mining because a GPU miner isn't worth making.

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October 25, 2016, 10:03:02 AM
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nice price by LMAO ppl are WAY overpaying if buying in now sheesh.
Really? The first live, working, non-experimental cryptocurrency with Zerocoin transactions. Supported by Roger Ver. Currently under $1 million market cap. Yeah, way overpriced. Grin

Currently under 1 million usd marketcap with 230K coins in circulation.

At the same price of XZC its marketcap will be 12 millions after a year when there are more than 2.5 million XZC in circulation. and after 4 years if the price of XZC stays the same marketcap will be 50 millions.

So yeah not so cheap. If you know how hyperinflationary XZC is.

Right. But that's not how supply and demand work. In fiat money, future inflation of monetary supply also doesn't affect current prices. Otherwise you could take that argument and run with it and claim that prices should be 7x what they are now, because in 100 years at 2% inflation there will be over 7x as much money.

The inflation is very different for fiat vs Zcoin.

For fiat 2% inflation in next year equates to inflation of 0.005% daily.

For ZEC, 1000% inflation in next year equates to 3% daily inflation rate.

Good luck with buying ZEC now and holding it long term.
Zcoin inflation is 0.36% daily ,not 0.005% as you said ,7200 coin produced per day .

                               
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October 25, 2016, 10:23:56 AM
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H/s is decreasing.......getting really tough to mine....plus price isn't helping either

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October 25, 2016, 11:14:35 AM
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Why has it been trading on trex 5 days away from the official release?

So what happens on launch day? Exchanges seem to just pull the source and list it on their own discretion. What would make the release date any different from today or yesterday?

Its not the first time when exchanges list crapcoins or IOU before the actual launch.

"hey we launched, happy trading" <- is this the actual business model here?

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October 25, 2016, 12:10:43 PM
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Why has it been trading on trex 5 days away from the official release?

So what happens on launch day? Exchanges seem to just pull the source and list it on their own discretion. What would make the release date any different from today or yesterday?

Its not the first time when exchanges list crapcoins or IOU before the actual launch.

"hey we launched, happy trading" <- is this the actual business model here?

You realize this is Zcoin (not zcash) right?

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October 25, 2016, 12:16:27 PM
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H/s is decreasing.......getting really tough to mine....plus price isn't helping either

I've got 1,560 8-cores on it atm.

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October 25, 2016, 12:19:03 PM
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H/s is decreasing.......getting really tough to mine....plus price isn't helping either

I've got 1,560 8-cores on it atm.

That's a lot of cores  Smiley

Profitable at current prices?

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October 25, 2016, 12:24:29 PM
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H/s is decreasing.......getting really tough to mine....plus price isn't helping either

I've got 1,560 8-cores on it atm.

That's a lot of cores  Smiley

Profitable at current prices?

Insanely, for me. And this time, I'm not even using a special miner. Well, I bumped it ~5%, but that's about it. The trick is cheap compute, this time.

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October 25, 2016, 12:39:51 PM
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I get the approx same speed with a i5 4 core and i7 8 core, so there must be a trick there that i don't know
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October 25, 2016, 12:44:36 PM
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I get the approx same speed with a i5 4 core and i7 8 core, so there must be a trick there that i don't know

Nope, memory-bound.

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October 25, 2016, 12:47:16 PM
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H/s is decreasing.......getting really tough to mine....plus price isn't helping either

I've got 1,560 8-cores on it atm.
I think that you must have alot of free high speed multi-cores computers so if would have a this soft for mining




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October 25, 2016, 12:48:56 PM
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H/s is decreasing.......getting really tough to mine....plus price isn't helping either

I've got 1,560 8-cores on it atm.
I think that you must have alot of free high speed multi-cores computers so if would have a this soft for mining

Not free, just cheap.

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October 25, 2016, 01:01:42 PM
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Why has it been trading on trex 5 days away from the official release?

So what happens on launch day? Exchanges seem to just pull the source and list it on their own discretion. What would make the release date any different from today or yesterday?

Its not the first time when exchanges list crapcoins or IOU before the actual launch.

"hey we launched, happy trading" <- is this the actual business model here?

You realize this is Zcoin (not zcash) right?


Overall, it looks like its not hmmm. Im referring to this article https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/zcash-creator-on-the-upcoming-zcash-launch-privacy-and-the-unfinished-internet-revolution-1472568389.

Am I right in assuming that theyre not affiliated with Zooko Wilcox?

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October 25, 2016, 01:12:15 PM
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I get the approx same speed with a i5 4 core and i7 8 core, so there must be a trick there that i don't know

Nope, memory-bound.
Yeah i read about that, but still don't understand does it refer to cpu cache or the ram in the mobo lol
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