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October 17, 2016, 01:53:02 AM
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are there any Mac wallets available ?

Why is this coin only available on these 'weird and shitty ' exchanges ?
does not seem/feel good !

Because it's a weird and shitty coin that is going to be superceded in the "weird and shitty and premined and trusted setup" niche by zcash in about 10 days.
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October 17, 2016, 02:09:21 AM
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are there any Mac wallets available ?

Why is this coin only available on these 'weird and shitty ' exchanges ?
does not seem/feel good !

Because it's a weird and shitty coin that is going to be superceded in the "weird and shitty and premined and trusted setup" niche by zcash in about 10 days.

The only weird thing here is the persistence of those who can only blame their own ignorance for missing the ZCoin train in spreading lies and FUD.

Myth: "Weird and shitty"
Fact: Based upon the very advanced ZCoin protocol proposed by academic researchers (See http://spar.isi.jhu.edu/~mgreen/ZerocoinOakland.pdf)

Myth: "Premined"
Fact: There was no premine whatsoever.

Myth: "Trusted setup is insecure"
Fact: The inability to perform prime factorization in a reasonable amount of time (where 'reasonable' means CPU-years) is the basis of modern cryptography. If you can easily compromise a trusted setup then congratulations, the entire world is yours to take.

I'm seriously wondering how some people are even able to breathe.

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October 17, 2016, 02:43:41 AM
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any news of a GPU miner on the horizon?
seems a modified version of lyra2 with additional rows and block height as a parameter is definitely in the realm of doable..

i'd say it most likely already exists but someone is holding it close to their chest..

If zcoin is switching algos soon i dont think we'll ever see one

Where did you read about algo change? Sure you don't mean zcash?

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October 17, 2016, 02:52:11 AM
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any news of a GPU miner on the horizon?
seems a modified version of lyra2 with additional rows and block height as a parameter is definitely in the realm of doable..

i'd say it most likely already exists but someone is holding it close to their chest..

If zcoin is switching algos soon i dont think we'll ever see one

Where did you read about algo change? Sure you don't mean zcash?

It's under development milestones on github.  They are switching to MTP.

https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/usenixsecurity16/sec16_paper_biryukov.pdf

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October 17, 2016, 02:52:42 AM
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are there any Mac wallets available ?

Why is this coin only available on these 'weird and shitty ' exchanges ?
does not seem/feel good !

Because it's a weird and shitty coin that is going to be superceded in the "weird and shitty and premined and trusted setup" niche by zcash in about 10 days.

The only weird thing here is the persistence of those who can only blame their own ignorance for missing the ZCoin train in spreading lies and FUD.

Myth: "Weird and shitty"
Fact: Based upon the very advanced ZCoin protocol proposed by academic researchers (See http://spar.isi.jhu.edu/~mgreen/ZerocoinOakland.pdf)

Myth: "Premined"
Fact: There was no premine whatsoever.

Myth: "Trusted setup is insecure"
Fact: The inability to perform prime factorization in a reasonable amount of time (where 'reasonable' means CPU-years) is the basis of modern cryptography. If you can easily compromise a trusted setup then congratulations, the entire world is yours to take.

I'm seriously wondering how some people are even able to breathe.



easy there
i am asking a general question here
and your answer does NOT help at all !
so .... ?

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October 17, 2016, 02:55:16 AM
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I drew the fib levels for our market on tradingview (because you can't anywhere for nova).

We are currently at the .382 retracement level.  It's usually a good spot to buy, we will see...  Cheesy

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MTP algo CPU friendly ?
ASIC resistant?
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MTP algo CPU friendly ?
ASIC resistant?

According the the whitepaper, yes.  It's memory hard. 

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October 17, 2016, 04:38:02 AM
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Where is current hashrate Suprnova or MN? Can not choose which info is real..
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Where is current hashrate Suprnova or MN? Can not choose which info is real..

Both are accurate; nethashrate (equivalent to networkhashps via getmininginfo) is quite irrelevant, as it is based on calculations derived from the rate that blocks are being solved, its not actually derived from network conditions.
Suprnova is 1,600kh/s and Pool.mn is around 240kh/s.

If you were to take the same share rate/size as currently being submitted (as scrypt), you'd divide the results by 128 for Lyra2.

Additionally, i got quite sick of xzc.pool.mn; as the stratum appeared to continuously fail and reappear last night (no doubt due to traffic).
This may actually be an implementation problem with Zerocoin and not pool.mn itself.

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Where is current hashrate Suprnova or MN? Can not choose which info is real..

Both are accurate; nethashrate (equivalent to networkhashps via getmininginfo) is quite irrelevant, as it is based on calculations derived from the rate that blocks are being solved, its not actually derived from network conditions.
Suprnova is 1,600kh/s and Pool.mn is around 240kh/s.

If you were to take the same share rate/size as currently being submitted (as scrypt), you'd divide the results by 128 for Lyra2.

Additionally, i got quite sick of xzc.pool.mn; as the stratum appeared to continuously fail and reappear last night (no doubt due to traffic).
This may actually be an implementation problem with Zerocoin and not pool.mn itself.
Ok, that is good to know. But statistics page on both pool show total different results.
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Where is current hashrate Suprnova or MN? Can not choose which info is real..
cpu-pool is current hashrate real.
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Where is current hashrate Suprnova or MN? Can not choose which info is real..

Both are accurate; nethashrate (equivalent to networkhashps via getmininginfo) is quite irrelevant, as it is based on calculations derived from the rate that blocks are being solved, its not actually derived from network conditions.
Suprnova is 1,600kh/s and Pool.mn is around 240kh/s.

If you were to take the same share rate/size as currently being submitted (as scrypt), you'd divide the results by 128 for Lyra2.

Additionally, i got quite sick of xzc.pool.mn; as the stratum appeared to continuously fail and reappear last night (no doubt due to traffic).
This may actually be an implementation problem with Zerocoin and not pool.mn itself.
Ok, that is good to know. But statistics page on both pool show total different results.

apologies; my answer contradicts itself.. whichever nethashrate is higher will be the accurate 'world' hashrate. however both pool hashrates are correct.

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cpu-pool what does Orphaned mean in the transactions ??
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cpu-pool what does Orphaned mean in the transactions ??

Orphaned (in the context of blocks found) basically means that two found blocks on the network were found to conflict and the 'orphaned' one was chosen to be invalid. Usually because one was propogated across the network quicker than the other block finder (pool or individual) was able to.

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October 17, 2016, 06:34:55 AM
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Where is current hashrate Suprnova or MN? Can not choose which info is real..
cpu-pool is current hashrate real.
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October 17, 2016, 06:37:41 AM
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Is there any news on possible listing of zcoin on bittrex? volume on nova is big enough compared to other coins listed there. I have a hunch it will be this week.. Smiley
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October 17, 2016, 06:40:06 AM
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Yeah unfortunately the block we've found was orphaned by another block, so ours became invalid :-(

We simply need more hash on the pool and it should be better, is there anything we might do to get more users on the pool ?
Whats so bad about the pool that only a few hop over ?

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You can set a little additional reward for those who will find a block. At least untill there will be enough hashing power at your pool.

Also, as I mentioned before, please add a port 443, may be 80 for those who are behing the firewalls. It will be your advantage.  Wink

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Where is current hashrate Suprnova or MN? Can not choose which info is real..
cpu-pool is current hashrate real.
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