Avalon batch [2] countdown!

[pikeadz]

The Chinese culture is really one of its own.

Read some books on zen, my friend.  It may or may not put you at ease, but you will likely identify with eastern culture a little better.  I am not saying you need to become buddhist, but open your mind to other ways a little bit.  To you, this is about profit and "me me me", to them it is something different.  I am not saying Avalon couldn't provide a simple update.  We'd all like that.  But if you read into BitSyncom's comments, especially in the thread where he and Kano went at it, he is simply not going to post updates which will feed the trolls until the last possible moment.  If you can't find some comfort in the fact others have received theirs successfully, then find some in this:  You are on their terms, not the other way around.  Badmouthing them will get you nowhere, but patience may get you somewhere.

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[jspielberg]

The Chinese culture is really one of its own.

Read some books on zen, my friend.  It may or may not put you at ease, but you will likely identify with eastern culture a little better.  I am not saying you need to become buddhist, but open your mind to other ways a little bit.  To you, this is about profit and "me me me", to them it is something different.  I am not saying Avalon couldn't provide a simple update.  We'd all like that.  But if you read into BitSyncom's comments, especially in the thread where he and Kano went at it, he is simply not going to post updates which will feed the trolls until the last possible moment.  If you can't find some comfort in the fact others have received theirs successfully, then find some in this:  You are on their terms, not the other way around.  Badmouthing them will get you nowhere, but patience may get you somewhere.

I think detachment is a skill that us westerns find difficult; especially the detachment from outcomes. 

They may be having issues with their new process, but I have full faith that Avalon will continue along their path of providing high quality products in a timely manner (at least compared to their competition  ).

[rudrigorc2]

As a great poet once said:

You take the good, you take the bad,
you take them both and there you have
The Facts of Life, the Facts of Life.

Zen people, zen.

I like very much the poem and all zen stuff, thanks for posting, that does not make it easy because we all know they are mining, its bright clear, they said this themselves in the last newsletter they would do it a few days and that would help get the machines we funded done. Totally comprehensible, they are working for us, avalon exists because of we all here funded Icarus, Lancelot *both pre-mined and delivery with very very little delay* and now we have to wait the new shiny hot air blowing toy.

BTC is stronger, the network safer, no one is complaining about the success of this enterprise, but the full-of-rigmarole-newsletters, delay and repetitive schedule missing --those guys really enjoyd the holidays-- let alone the language avalon public man uses to communicate with their costumers(sic) should have been very different from the start. Some people should visit more the ASICMINER thread and learn how to deal with the people that make big projects possible. Basically, when you have money and fame you should at least try to be a gentleman too. I miss the days we could deal direct with the great ngzhang and have a straight conversation. But what can we do? Facts of life, facts of life.

Peace.

[minternj]

No, they said they had a decision to make after batch 2. To mine or to keep selling units to fund their development ( of gen2 maybe?). Correct me if I'm wrong but that's how I read  that march newsletter.

Edit but yes, they could be mining no matter how you interpret their newsletter. Hash rate has been climibing.

[bennybong]

The Chinese culture is really one of its own.

Read some books on zen, my friend.  It may or may not put you at ease, but you will likely identify with eastern culture a little better.  I am not saying you need to become buddhist, but open your mind to other ways a little bit.  To you, this is about profit and "me me me", to them it is something different.  I am not saying Avalon couldn't provide a simple update.  We'd all like that.  But if you read into BitSyncom's comments, especially in the thread where he and Kano went at it, he is simply not going to post updates which will feed the trolls until the last possible moment.  If you can't find some comfort in the fact others have received theirs successfully, then find some in this:  You are on their terms, not the other way around.  Badmouthing them will get you nowhere, but patience may get you somewhere.

As a great poet once said:

You take the good, you take the bad,
you take them both and there you have
The Facts of Life, the Facts of Life.

Zen people, zen.

I like very much the poem and all zen stuff, thanks for posting, that does not make it easy because we all know they are mining, its bright clear, they said this themselves in the last newsletter they would do it a few days and that would help get the machines we funded done. Totally comprehensible, they are working for us, avalon exists because of we all here funded Icarus, Lancelot *both pre-mined and delivery with very very little delay* and now we have to wait the new shiny hot air blowing toy.

BTC is stronger, the network safer, no one is complaining about the success of this enterprise, but the full-of-rigmarole-newsletters, delay and repetitive schedule missing --those guys really enjoyd the holidays-- let alone the language avalon public man uses to communicate with their costumers(sic) should have been very different from the start. Some people should visit more the ASICMINER thread and learn how to deal with the people that make big projects possible. Basically, when you have money and fame you should at least try to be a gentleman too. I miss the days we could deal direct with the great ngzhang and have a straight conversation. But what can we do? Facts of life, facts of life.

Peace.

I like how this thread is going. 

Be still now
I am with you,
I am deep within you;
You are at peace.
You cannot be harmed;
You will not suffer.
Breathe deeply,
Breathe in the healing love of the universe,
And breathe out the sickness which has taken you.
I am with you.


...okay so that is DJ Shadow (blood on the motorway), but I love it, and it works here people! 

[Minor Miner]

To put it in perspective, if what a lot of people are saying is true and Avalon has stolen (yes stolen because they are sold so they are not avalon's to use) 200 batch II machines and used them to mine the last 16 days, the amount of the theft is large.
That would give them between 15 and 20% of the network or 540-720 btc per DAY.   That is over $1M in the last 15 days.

We all know that FriedCat pays dividends every wednesday.   I think 200 people (max since some ordered more than one) are owed this $1MM.  That is a nice dividend of $50,000 each.   

[oakpacific]

Avalon look at what your neighbor in Shenzhen, ASICMiner has achieved with the delivery speed

[Bitcoin123321]

Lots things to update.

1. We are currently investigating on the three or so shipments that have shown up badly damaged to the customers. They do no appear to be simple delivery damage: they are not dents but some corners of some of the units have been snapped off. It takes a great amount of force to snap 3mm aluminum that's been bolted down with 0.9mm screws in a box with foam padding. We are not ruling out the possibility of sabotage.

In future, when receiving an Avalon package, if there is any rattling sound coming from inside, open the package in front of DHL/EMS and inspect the inside, if there is damage immediately return the package to the sender. The receiver must submit the complaint so us, the shipper can receive this information from DHL/EMS and we can investigate.

Do not worry, even if DHL/EMS does not compensate for the damages, once you send the damaged unit back, we will send you a replacement free of charge.



2. Our new SMT equipment has arrived, it is expected to be tweaked and fully functional by the second week of May. Expect an updated gallery of our facility soon. In the mean time we are going to send out ~20 units through our new shipping channels and test the waters. We expect to go full throttle once the new SMT line comes online.



3. We also recently released a new firmware that is our most stabled version yet, it also increases the performance by about 2Gh/s and lowers idle power consumption, see the wiki for full details. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon#20130419
 
p.s. few people in the Avalon team is sick, so we are moving rather slow at the moment.

[Bowjob]

All right, ETA JUNE. Someone dig up my old post saying realistically it will be in the hands of customers at the end of may. I called it.

[cedivad]

Until when we I didn't read the newsletter, I was sure that it was a trolling attempt. I can't believe its real... 65 days of delays to install a new production line that will double the capacity... Even if it was real, what a deal...

[Bitcoin123321]

我在等2个星期 如果还收不到我的机器 我会联合一些用户采取过激行为 鱼死网破吧 我所有的财产都投入到了2批和3批 我不想一次次被欺骗了 尽管我一直是NGZ的支持者

[Wayne_Chang]

我在等2个星期 如果还收不到我的机器 我会联合一些用户采取过激行为 鱼死网破吧 我所有的财产都投入到了2批和3批 我不想一次次被欺骗了 尽管我一直是NGZ的支持者

我想知道你准备怎么做？

[el_rlee]

In such as two weeks if you also received less than my machine I will joint some users take excesses fish died Network to break it all my property are inputs to the Batch 2 and 3 batches I do not want to again and again is to deceive the despite I have been is NGZ supportperson
I want to know how are you going to do?

Would somebody care to translate? After all this is an English section of this forum, and Google Translate really doesn't make sense to me.

[Bitcoin123321]

我在等2个星期 如果还收不到我的机器 我会联合一些用户采取过激行为 鱼死网破吧 我所有的财产都投入到了2批和3批 我不想一次次被欺骗了 尽管我一直是NGZ的支持者

我想知道你准备怎么做？

我还是会继续等的 除非到了机器到了已经到了回本都很困难的情况下 ，我从第一批就开始订购avalon 第2 3批 投入了所有的资产，我的期望很高，以为第一批机器已经到的情况下，第2批会更顺利些，但是如果蝴蝶大量发货 ，avalon继续推迟到7月甚至8月，我所有的投入就已经很危险，有的时候 爱恨就在一瞬间，我会举报他们非法集资 找官方介入调查。到现在为止，我还是梦想着五月中旬就会收到我的机器，哪怕是5月末。

[luffy]

in other words: have a nice summer 
great news for #1 owners, asicminer and (BFL?)

[michelet]

We still can have our ROI.. BFL is even worst https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192709.0
Honestly companies like this don't deserve to stay on the market, Avalon included. Every other company would have already been closed.
employed sick? Wtf I should care? Is it my fault?
sabotage? It seems like the excuse of the dog that eats the homework at school.. In any case who care? We want the units for which we paid, not excuses
I am glad to have bought some Asic hardware from AsicMiner, that is the only company that is not telling bullshits to his customers so far.

[el_rlee]

If all the components are available I would have LOVED to pay up charge for external assembly.

[goxed]

We still can have our ROI.. BFL is even worst https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192709.0
Honestly companies like this don't deserve to stay on the market, Avalon included. Every other company would have already been closed.
employed sick? Wtf I should care? Is it my fault?
sabotage? It seems like the excuse of the dog that eats the homework at school.. In any case who care? We want the units for which we paid, not excuses
I am glad to have bought some Asic hardware from AsicMiner, that is the only company that is not telling bullshits to his customers so far.

How can one purchase hw from asicminer?

[el_rlee]

How can one purchase hw from asicminer?

Costly fun.

[michelet]

There has been two auctions so far
 this is the last one
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189248.0
in the,first auction I received my blade 4 days after the payment.