Is taxation theft?

[Barrymore]

no, unless it's stolen and not being used to improve the common world.

Which is sadly the case in a hell lot of countries...
Developped countries are in the end only slightly affected by corruption and tax problem.
When you look at third world countries THERE you see how shitty a government can become.

Balance of power is always the most important.

Believe me in third countries there are people who are much richer than people in most developed countries. Problems with the redistribution of funds exist in all countries. The poorer the country the greater the difference between rich and poor.

[bakkang]

Taxation is not a theft, it is a one way of contributing to the economy of one country. As long as the government know how to manage the tax of people then the tax is really a big help in making the country progressive. So we should bear in our mind that taxation is not a theft but it is a way in making the country more progressive.

[voltesbit777]

Taxes is the base for any kind of gobeerment, what you really should ask is what are he goberment doing with the taxes you pay to improve your life and country. I dont think is a theft is necesary for the country.

In my country, which I stayed all commodities we had in here have taxes all we can buy goods stuff in any of the supermarket, fast food chain, restaurant, all aspects of business, also the house residence too had their own tax too.  Meaning everything has a tax

[Rastaman2016]

Taxation is not a theft, it is a one way of contributing to the economy of one country. As long as the government know how to manage the tax of people then the tax is really a big help in making the country progressive. So we should bear in our mind that taxation is not a theft but it is a way in making the country more progressive.

In our country, on the contrary, it is better not to pay taxes, because all this money goes into the pocket of the governors of the state and the economy does not improve at all.

[Alexzap]

Taxation is not a theft, it is a one way of contributing to the economy of one country. As long as the government know how to manage the tax of people then the tax is really a big help in making the country progressive. So we should bear in our mind that taxation is not a theft but it is a way in making the country more progressive.

In our country, on the contrary, it is better not to pay taxes, because all this money goes into the pocket of the governors of the state and the economy does not improve at all.

This position is wrong. When you don't pay taxes to the pockets of your corrupt politicians is not empty. Firstly they will still find how to steal, and secondly, if there is no money in the coffers, they will take the credit and steal the money. Such actions only make their country poorer. Debts will give your children they will live in poverty. Try to unite and change the country's leadership.

[Hazir]

In our country, on the contrary, it is better not to pay taxes, because all this money goes into the pocket of the governors of the state and the economy does not improve at all.

1. Without clear example where are you from your argument is invalid. Imagine the situation - you want to talk about specific situation but don't provide context.
2. Crooked politicians can't steal every single penny from your taxes, you have public roads, transport, parks or public schools or hospitals in your country?
3. If your country is in bad economic state in general, then taxes won't make it suddenly amazing, managing complicated economy is not that simple.

[youngagethinker]

Tax always reminds me that I don't really own a thing in these world. I can't even call my profession a property or my own because of that tax. Tax it's not just theft, it's a unfairness of mankind.

[GreenBits]

Tax always reminds me that I don't really own a thing in these world. I can't even call my profession a property or my own because of that tax. Tax it's not just theft, it's a unfairness of mankind.

Why does the cost of maintenance dissuade you from thinking that you own a thing? The government will continue to defend your property and assets from unlawful seizure and foreign aggression as long as it exists. You are a member of a club, your respective nation. Unfortunately, clubs have dues. Your property or asset continues to exist within your nations respective borders; at some point is this service of security simply.supposed to become free?

[Sithara007]

Tax always reminds me that I don't really own a thing in these world. I can't even call my profession a property or my own because of that tax. Tax it's not just theft, it's a unfairness of mankind.

There should be some sort of tax, either direct or indirect. Else, who will pay for the law enforcement, education, and defense? But the point is that, the overall tax should be in the 15% to 20% range and not more than that.

[craked5]

Tax always reminds me that I don't really own a thing in these world. I can't even call my profession a property or my own because of that tax. Tax it's not just theft, it's a unfairness of mankind.

Exactly.
Thanks for noticing.
Property is an artificial concept and tool created and used by human society.

But in the end, the only thing that make an object yours is the common agreement that this object is yours.
If whole society decides that something isn't yours but theirs... Then you're alone against the whole world. You have a different vision than everyone else and... Well you'll either forfeit or have to fight against the whole world to keep it.

The concept of property is simply an agreement between everyone. It's not a natural thing that can't be changed.

[kirch]

taxing is robbing the honest and paying the poor
rich and dishonest people always getaway with taxes

[DicePlayer21]

Taxes are already a painful topic for every person in the world. The elderly people remember in due time how taxes were paid even for fruit trees, and also for animals in the household. And today, except for all taxes that were, taxes on property ownership of land, real estate and even outbuildings were added. And one incomprehensible video of the state has nothing to do with this, it's no trouble to put it in my possession, why should I pay for my work.

[craked5]

taxing is robbing the honest and paying the poor
rich and dishonest people always getaway with taxes

In there current form that's quite true...
But a very simple idea could be taxation of salaries at the source and then taxation of companies on the turnover and not on the net result.

That would be simple and unavoidable.

[Forester618]

taxing is robbing the honest and paying the poor
rich and dishonest people always getaway with taxes

In there current form that's quite true...
But a very simple idea could be taxation of salaries at the source and then taxation of companies on the turnover and not on the net result.

That would be simple and unavoidable.

The government take taxes on all the paths of circulation of money. First you pay the payroll tax, then you pay the tax on any purchase. It turns out that we always pay about 50% of their income in tax. I consider it stealing.

[youdamushi]

taxing is robbing the honest and paying the poor
rich and dishonest people always getaway with taxes

In there current form that's quite true...
But a very simple idea could be taxation of salaries at the source and then taxation of companies on the turnover and not on the net result.

That would be simple and unavoidable.

The government take taxes on all the paths of circulation of money. First you pay the payroll tax, then you pay the tax on any purchase. It turns out that we always pay about 50% of their income in tax. I consider it stealing.

I don't know where you're from but 50% is high.

You can't consider it stealing if in exchange you get free education, healthcare and all...

[Prohodimec]

taxing is robbing the honest and paying the poor
rich and dishonest people always getaway with taxes

In there current form that's quite true...
But a very simple idea could be taxation of salaries at the source and then taxation of companies on the turnover and not on the net result.

That would be simple and unavoidable.

The government take taxes on all the paths of circulation of money. First you pay the payroll tax, then you pay the tax on any purchase. It turns out that we always pay about 50% of their income in tax. I consider it stealing.

I don't know where you're from but 50% is high.

You can't consider it stealing if in exchange you get free education, healthcare and all...

In our country, you can only name conditionally free education and health care, and if you really want to learn and be healthy, you need to pay money for it.

[BADecker]

taxing is robbing the honest and paying the poor
rich and dishonest people always getaway with taxes

In there current form that's quite true...
But a very simple idea could be taxation of salaries at the source and then taxation of companies on the turnover and not on the net result.

That would be simple and unavoidable.

The government take taxes on all the paths of circulation of money. First you pay the payroll tax, then you pay the tax on any purchase. It turns out that we always pay about 50% of their income in tax. I consider it stealing.

I don't know where you're from but 50% is high.

You can't consider it stealing if in exchange you get free education, healthcare and all...

In our country, you can only name conditionally free education and health care, and if you really want to learn and be healthy, you need to pay money for it.

However, if you pay money for things you don't need and want, and if the money is forced out of you, that is taxation.

Get rid of taxation, and simply buy the things you want.

All forms of money are government setups... except Bitcoin. Use Bitcoin to buy and sell voluntarily what you want. Drop taxation theft which gives you things that you don't want, and supports the taxation people in ways they aren't worthy of.

[Forester618]

While the trade in bitcoins is poorly developed. You have to change the bitcoins to the exchange and convert them to other currencies. Indirectly it turns out that we pay taxes even bitcoins.

[BADecker]

People are already trading bitcoins for other property as a means of exchange just like money. Why would you need other money when Bitcoin is worldwide?

[Forester618]

People are already trading bitcoins for other property as a means of exchange just like money. Why would you need other money when Bitcoin is worldwide?

How long ago did you go to the supermarket and buy food with bitcoin? You can only do a limited number of online purchases with bitcoins. Our main expenses in local currency. The government never miss an opportunity to cash in on us.