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[TERA2]

Now that the forum is completely pessimistic I wouldnt be suprised if it just spiked straight up to 20K like 'Aha! Fooled you. The bear market is off.'

so I see you set yourself up for both ways eh? you should be a cold reader. the credulous folk would see you as a psychic genius...

EXACTLY what these predicting folks try to do.  Predict in both directions, and then try to act as if whatever happens was consistent with what they were predicting all along.  The best posters remain those who condition their predictions and remain humble about correct outcomes.  I really doubt that anyone can predict with more than 80% confidence, and even that is quite high, but yeah, I already understand that a large majority of folks do like to predict in terms of absolutes, even though future outcomes do not work like that (until they become historical events).   

I was making more of a sarcastic remark rather than a prediction.

However there are people who set themselves up using a matrix of accounts with every combination of multiple predictions. For example if there are 3 yes/no predictions to be made then they need 8 accounts. Whichever account made all the correct predictions is then used to pump something.

[Arriemoller]

So, let's see if I got it all right.

I go to the library, (with my clothes on), download the "make your paper wallet" site from the library computer (so the computer can't be traced to me) onto a USB stick. Buy a refurbished poo computer from Ebay, Get naked, take a shower just to be sure, put on a balaclava thats been in the microwave to kill the microcameras that might have been put there by the Chinese who made it, get an enema, make the wallets, preferably in a dark room with loud music, print them on a virgin printer, pour petrol on the printer and computer and burn them, put the wallets in an envelope seal it with wax and my coat of arms, and put it in my box in the bank.

Did I miss anything?

But seriously, thank you all for your input, I know OPSEC is important, and I do get more and more paranoid as the price goes up.

[Dabs]

However there are people who set themselves up using a matrix of accounts with every combination of multiple predictions. For example if there are 3 yes/no predictions to be made then they need 8 accounts. Whichever account made all the correct predictions is then used to pump something.

Awesome, that's brute force right there. All possible combinations. Takes a lot of work to do manually the more predictions in a row you need to get correct, but I guess it can be automated.

[Rosewater Foundation]

Did I miss anything?

Burn the bank.

[bitserve]

Try to use the Via BTC accelerator

https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

Sorry, your TXID doesn't exist  when I use accelerator.

How were your funds stolen?

Windows 10, I just did a fresh install a few days ago. I haven’t installed much other then btc, Ltd, ripple wallet. Not sure how I got a virus. It turned off windows defender and I only saw it detected a virus when I turned it back on. This is after I already noticed my coins moving on the blockchain. I don’t keep wallets on on my pc but I had them on for a min earlier today to move some coins.

That's what hardware wallets are for... to NEVER let your regular computer know your private keys not even for a brief second (which people with paperwallets will have to do when they decide to claim them).

Unfortunately that advice is of not much help for your recent incident now

Um, read his latest post. Its all good man...

Yeah, should have read all the pending posts before replying anything... Great that he recovered the funds in the end! The advice stands though, and it seems many people are also going that route nowadays in comparison to even the beginning of this year.

[TERA2]

So, let's see if I got it all right.

I go to the library, (with my clothes on), download the "make your paper wallet" site from the library computer (so the computer can't be traced to me) onto a USB stick. Buy a refurbished poo computer from Ebay, Get naked, take a shower just to be sure, put on a balaclava thats been in the microwave to kill the microcameras that might have been put there by the Chinese who made it, get an enema, make the wallets, preferably in a dark room with loud music, print them on a virgin printer, pour petrol on the printer and computer and burn them, put the wallets in an envelope seal it with wax and my coat of arms, and put it in my box in the bank.

Did I miss anything?

But seriously, thank you all for your input, I know OPSEC is important, and I do get more and more paranoid as the price goes up.

I would tear the paper wallet in half and store it in two different banks and also cut off a third piece that is only memorized.

[Rosewater Foundation]

So, let's see if I got it all right.

I go to the library, (with my clothes on), download the "make your paper wallet" site from the library computer (so the computer can't be traced to me) onto a USB stick. Buy a refurbished poo computer from Ebay, Get naked, take a shower just to be sure, put on a balaclava thats been in the microwave to kill the microcameras that might have been put there by the Chinese who made it, get an enema, make the wallets, preferably in a dark room with loud music, print them on a virgin printer, pour petrol on the printer and computer and burn them, put the wallets in an envelope seal it with wax and my coat of arms, and put it in my box in the bank.

Did I miss anything?

But seriously, thank you all for your input, I know OPSEC is important, and I do get more and more paranoid as the price goes up.

I would tear the paper wallet in half and store it in two different banks and also cut off a third piece that is only memorized.

What happens when he burns the banks? It's a flaw.

[windjc]

So, let's see if I got it all right.

I go to the library, (with my clothes on), download the "make your paper wallet" site from the library computer (so the computer can't be traced to me) onto a USB stick. Buy a refurbished poo computer from Ebay, Get naked, take a shower just to be sure, put on a balaclava thats been in the microwave to kill the microcameras that might have been put there by the Chinese who made it, get an enema, make the wallets, preferably in a dark room with loud music, print them on a virgin printer, pour petrol on the printer and computer and burn them, put the wallets in an envelope seal it with wax and my coat of arms, and put it in my box in the bank.

Did I miss anything?

But seriously, thank you all for your input, I know OPSEC is important, and I do get more and more paranoid as the price goes up.

I would tear the paper wallet in half and store it in two different banks and also cut off a third piece that is only memorized.

Then if you had a head injury you could easily lose your fortune.

[Arriemoller]

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[criptix]

Now that the forum is completely pessimistic I wouldnt be suprised if it just spiked straight up to 20K like 'Aha! Fooled you. The bear market is off.'

so I see you set yourself up for both ways eh? you should be a cold reader. the credulous folk would see you as a psychic genius...

EXACTLY what these predicting folks try to do.  Predict in both directions, and then try to act as if whatever happens was consistent with what they were predicting all along.  The best posters remain those who condition their predictions and remain humble about correct outcomes.  I really doubt that anyone can predict with more than 80% confidence, and even that is quite high, but yeah, I already understand that a large majority of folks do like to predict in terms of absolutes, even though future outcomes do not work like that (until they become historical events).   

I was making more of a sarcastic remark rather than a prediction.

However there are people who set themselves up using a matrix of accounts with every combination of multiple predictions. For example if there are 3 yes/no predictions to be made then they need 8 accounts. Whichever account made all the correct predictions is then used to pump something.

Except your name is John McMonkey (TM).

[sirazimuth]

The poll is bullish as fark. Who here really thinks we're going to see $20k in three days? Tera?

Screw 20K we need it to .....

Jeezus! thats like one of those mega annoying ads from the olden days... CLICK HERE FOR FREE BITCOIN!
Frikkin spare me.... (no offence btw ...im just lit up tonite)

[Arriemoller]

So, let's see if I got it all right.

I go to the library, (with my clothes on), download the "make your paper wallet" site from the library computer (so the computer can't be traced to me) onto a USB stick. Buy a refurbished poo computer from Ebay, Get naked, take a shower just to be sure, put on a balaclava thats been in the microwave to kill the microcameras that might have been put there by the Chinese who made it, get an enema, make the wallets, preferably in a dark room with loud music, print them on a virgin printer, pour petrol on the printer and computer and burn them, put the wallets in an envelope seal it with wax and my coat of arms, and put it in my box in the bank.

Did I miss anything?

But seriously, thank you all for your input, I know OPSEC is important, and I do get more and more paranoid as the price goes up.

I would tear the paper wallet in half and store it in two different banks and also cut off a third piece that is only memorized.

Then if you had a head injury you could easily lose your fortune.

How does that not apply to all types of storage?

[jojo69]

However there are people who set themselves up using a matrix of accounts with every combination of multiple predictions. For example if there are 3 yes/no predictions to be made then they need 8 accounts. Whichever account made all the correct predictions is then used to pump something.

[Rosewater Foundation]

im just lit up tonite

[RejectedBanana]

Indeed. Those dry cleaning people are fond of putting microdot cameras on your clothes, powered by static electricity.

But where people really blow it is failing to do an enema before entering the room with the computer. Because you know what kind of people proctologists are, and they have been known to sneak into people's bedrooms at night to plant their malware....

C

That goes without saying of course.

But I start off with a similar routine to this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1vw7E7uE3E

With a full removal of gut flora followed by a fecal transplant when my crypto business is complete.

Hahaha...

[Dabs]

So, let's see if I got it all right.

I go to the library, (with my clothes on), download the "make your paper wallet" site from the library computer (so the computer can't be traced to me) onto a USB stick. Buy a refurbished poo computer from Ebay, Get naked, take a shower just to be sure, put on a balaclava thats been in the microwave to kill the microcameras that might have been put there by the Chinese who made it, get an enema, make the wallets, preferably in a dark room with loud music, print them on a virgin printer, pour petrol on the printer and computer and burn them, put the wallets in an envelope seal it with wax and my coat of arms, and put it in my box in the bank.

Did I miss anything?

But seriously, thank you all for your input, I know OPSEC is important, and I do get more and more paranoid as the price goes up.

I would just roll some dice about a hundred times (256 bits needed huh), they don't even have to be casino grade. Or shuffle a deck of cards. ... That opendime thing looks interesting too.


I found some code before to generate paper wallets, and dice2key, and nobrainer ... they take input from your keyboard and combine it with other randomness from your computer to spit out completely random private keys.

Here's a paper wallet generator with source code: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361092

And here's the dice2key one: https://github.com/swansontec/dice2key

But I seem to have found another one similar somewhere else, I have saved it locally on my drive but you may want to go look for an open source version and compile it yourself.

For paper wallet purposes, both bitaddress.org and vanitygen will work just as well. You could also go with something like Warp Wallet and a bunch of random words (or again, dice rolls.)

[Rosewater Foundation]

Indeed. Those dry cleaning people are fond of putting microdot cameras on your clothes, powered by static electricity.

But where people really blow it is failing to do an enema before entering the room with the computer. Because you know what kind of people proctologists are, and they have been known to sneak into people's bedrooms at night to plant their malware....

C

That goes without saying of course.

But I start off with a similar routine to this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1vw7E7uE3E

With a full removal of gut flora followed by a fecal transplant when my crypto business is complete.

Hahaha...

You laugh, but I'd pay good money for that kind of treatment.

(I'll pay extra if you'll have someone verify my checksum.)

[Arriemoller]

So, let's see if I got it all right.

I go to the library, (with my clothes on), download the "make your paper wallet" site from the library computer (so the computer can't be traced to me) onto a USB stick. Buy a refurbished poo computer from Ebay, Get naked, take a shower just to be sure, put on a balaclava thats been in the microwave to kill the microcameras that might have been put there by the Chinese who made it, get an enema, make the wallets, preferably in a dark room with loud music, print them on a virgin printer, pour petrol on the printer and computer and burn them, put the wallets in an envelope seal it with wax and my coat of arms, and put it in my box in the bank.

Did I miss anything?

But seriously, thank you all for your input, I know OPSEC is important, and I do get more and more paranoid as the price goes up.

I would just roll some dice about a hundred times (256 bits needed huh), they don't even have to be casino grade. Or shuffle a deck of cards. ... That opendime thing looks interesting too.


I found some code before to generate paper wallets, and dice2key, and nobrainer ... they take input from your keyboard and combine it with other randomness from your computer to spit out completely random private keys.

Here's a paper wallet generator with source code: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361092

And here's the dice2key one: https://github.com/swansontec/dice2key

But I seem to have found another one similar somewhere else, I have saved it locally on my drive but you may want to go look for an open source version and compile it yourself.

For paper wallet purposes, both bitaddress.org and vanitygen will work just as well. You could also go with something like Warp Wallet and a bunch of random words (or again, dice rolls.)

Thanks.

[Rosewater Foundation]

randomness

[JayJuanGee]

Very interesting CNBC conversation around Bitcoin and hedge funds.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2017/12/26/hedge-funds-want-in-on-the-bitcoin-action-heres-why.html

Yep...

Holy moley!!!

This guy has a very conservative presentation of the bitcoin situation, and even how bitcoin might fit into traditional financial thinking - but if you really consider what he is saying, it seems that bitcoin has to do another 5x - 10x before it is going to begin to be treated seriously by traditional investment circles.

Which hedge funds did he say were getting involved?  I tried 3 times to catch it but can’t make out the names.  I don’t think he is saying Sequoia?

I was not really interested in that level of detail regarding who exactly are the "firms" looking at this Bitcoin thingie-ma-jiggie because a lot of what wallstreet journalist Gregory Zuckerman is saying is that none of the hedge funds are getting involved seriously, and each of them are kind of waiting for bitcoin to become more "safe" and BIGGER and more safe on both the upside and the short side, and currently bitcoin remains difficult to short without an adequate level of liquidity for such shorting possibilities.

  So these ongoing considerations by traditional financial institutions but largely failure to actually act, seems to be overall bullish, in my thinking.   Each and all of them are too chicken shit, but they are itching, and thinking and any of them could be getting into bitcoin "on the side" or covertly considering ways to invest in bitcoin on the side while bitcoin gets bigger and Bigger and BIGGER.   

Without getting into particulars regarding "which ones" or "who" is considering getting in, doesn't the skittish scaredy-cat of traditional financial fucks kind of talk demonstrate to you that we are in such an "early adoption" phase that perhaps we have not even reached an "early adoption" phase yet because mainstream remains ongoingly too scaredy-cat, while being enticed by the thought of it and still having some quasi-bullish discussions about BTC historical performance coupled with future performance contemplations and desires to short bitcoin in some undefined future moment? perhaps after bitcoin reaches a $10 trillion market cap (my numbers here)?