Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[serveria.com]

Why not? Whats stopping it? Weve seen it before.

We did but the price and investments into mining gear were not that huge. Not even close. The price of Bitcoin is being manipulated it's clear as day. They will never allow BTC to fall that low.

[gentlemand]

We did but the price and investments into mining gear were not that huge. Not even close. The price of Bitcoin is being manipulated it's clear as day. They will never allow BTC to fall that low.

I'm sure many a large investor knows nothing about mining and even if they did, why should they care about poor little miners? There'll always be someone to pick up the slack if the current ones evaporate.

I think we're long past the point where one entity can control anything. And if groups work in unison, they'll fall apart if one member sees profit by being contrary. There's no shortage of people who'd love to attempt to push prices to that level and no shortage of pussies willing to hand it to them.

[TERA2]

Why not? Whats stopping it? Weve seen it before.

We did but the price and investments into mining gear were not that huge. Not even close. The price of Bitcoin is being manipulated it's clear as day. They will never allow BTC to fall that low.

Who is the one not allowing btc to fall and how are they doing it?

[cAPSLOCK]

Even if ETH has been my biggest earner, I have to agree that it is also running out of potential like bitcoin did in the past. In all probability, EOS will eventually make it obsolete. My senses tell me that EOS will get the most hype because of this in the coming year or two.

LOL. Quoting for posterity.  Will consider for a tshirt, or part of my dark ages crypto quote collage I will be hanging on my wall in a decade or so.

I understand if this can be a little confusing for you.

Straight to the personal attack.  Classy.  You got nothing Bittard.

[HairyMaclairy]

Cmon Infofront you would be up in arms if Michelle Obama was acting SoS.  Or Malia if she was older.  So would I.  I would lose my nut if Hillary was President and appointed Chelsea as acting SoS.  You can’t tell me you believe this is ok.   Appointing close family members to the highest positions in the government is what third world dictators do.  

This sort of behavior should transcend party lines and we should all stand up against it, because it leads to tyranny.

[El duderino_]

We are repeating the same patterns from 2013/2014/2015.

Bitcoin will drop back down to 2-3k and consolidate there for a while before resuming the next major bull run, probably fluctuating between 3 and 5 grand for a while.

Eth will return to $200ish, Bitcoin Cash will drop to 300-400

This is my prediction and I don't give a damn if you think I'm a nutcase.

I can only go off what I see happening now and so far the pattern is almost the same.

Sssssjjjjj don’t call those low prices Just on patterns you think are the same as they are today
Maybe you don’t have any BTC today its No shame Just be happy with This very low prices and buy youre piece

[greensheep]

We are repeating the same patterns from 2013/2014/2015.

Bitcoin will drop back down to 2-3k and consolidate there for a while before resuming the next major bull run, probably fluctuating between 3 and 5 grand for a while.

Eth will return to $200ish, Bitcoin Cash will drop to 300-400

This is my prediction and I don't give a damn if you think I'm a nutcase.

I can only go off what I see happening now and so far the pattern is almost the same.

maybe, maybe not
But it looks quite the same behaviour indeed
the run up was not that quick/high this time, let's see what follows...

[Ivor Biggun]

We are repeating the same patterns from 2013/2014/2015.

Bitcoin will drop back down to 2-3k and consolidate there for a while before resuming the next major bull run, probably fluctuating between 3 and 5 grand for a while.

Eth will return to $200ish, Bitcoin Cash will drop to 300-400

This is my prediction and I don't give a damn if you think I'm a nutcase.

I can only go off what I see happening now and so far the pattern is almost the same.

Sssssjjjjj don’t call those low prices Just on patterns you think are the same as they are today
Maybe you don’t have any BTC today its No shame Just be happy with This very low prices and buy youre piece

If he's so sure about those "patterns", then bitcoin should go back up to a double top at £12k about nine months after the ATH. He should buy the cheap coins now before the prices increase. In 2014 bitcoin double topped at $600+ about nine months after the ATH.



Some people see other "patterns" that they say will lead to another ATH at $100k by the summer. I'm just hodling until at least $100k whether it takes months or years to get there.

[ivomm]

Just a warning to everyone that reads our forum: This thread is infested by traders dreaming to buy at 2-3K. The desparate trolls are posting on each page with the hope to influence the market.  The truth is that there are many hodling thousands of bitcoins that are not going to sell them at the current prices.  The professional traders look at the ROI price for the miners and see it as the bottom. Currently this is in the 7K-8K range. With the new mining devices the profit will decrease, so even before the halvening, the BTC price will climb significantly. Moreover, recall that in Jan-March 2017 the price oscillated in the 800-1200$ range. This year is the same old story, only that BTC added another 0: 8K-12K. Don't trust the bear trolls! They know BTC will add another 0 in the coming years (may be months) to the price. These guys are pretending to be successful traders but 99% of them are complete failures. They just spread FUD with the hope to turn the few bucks (left from the altcoins fiasco) to millions,  buying as low as possible! All this is just "food for thought" for the noobs who believe Tera and co are sincere in their 'realistic predictions'.

[d_eddie]

Cmon Infofront you would be up in arms if Michelle Obama was acting SoS.  Or Malia if she was older.  So would I.  I would lose my nut if Hillary was President and appointed Chelsea as acting SoS.  You can’t tell me you believe this is ok.   Appointing close family members to the highest positions in the government is what third world dictators do.  

This sort of behavior should transcend party lines and we should all stand up against it, because it leads to tyranny.

The last line of decency is broken.
The US have been a "hereditary semiconstitutional republic" for a few decades anyway.

[Typex]

Just a warning to everyone that reads our forum. This thread is infested by traders dreaming to buy at 2-3K. The desparate trolls are posting on each page with the hope to influence the market.  The truth is that there are many hodling thousands of bitcoins that are not going to sell them at these prices.  The professional traders look at the ROI price for the miners and see it as the bottom. Currently this is in the 7K-8K range. With the new mining devices the profit will decrease, so even before the halvening the BTC price will climb significantly. Moreover, recall that in Jan-March 2017 the price oscillated in the 800-1200$ range. This year is the same old story, only that BTC added another 0: 8K-12K. Don't trust the bear trolls! They know BTC will add another 0 in the coming years (maybe months) to the price. These guys are pretending to be successful traders but 99% of them are complete failures. They just spread FUD with the hope to turn the few bucks left from the altcoins fiasco to millions,  buying as low as possible! All this is just "food for thought" for the noobs who believe Tera and co are sincere in their 'realistic predictions'.

I bet in December you would have called anyone claiming BTC to be $59xx on February 5th a "desperate troll" too.  The fact is nobody here really knows whats going to happen.  Just because it costs the miners $X today doesnt mean shit.  Trump could make a comment in passing about enacting laws banning crytocurrency and the price would be $2-3K by tomorrow morning.

[Sitarow]

Bitcoin will drop back down to 2-3k

Yeah, halting every single mining operation in the whole white world, sure  

Why not? Whats stopping it? Weve seen it before. Actually mining is disrupting itself every day by releasing faster and faster ASICs.

Because buying btc outright vs buying back mining hardware would be a smart business move.

[El duderino_]

Just a warning to everyone that reads our forum: This thread is infested by traders dreaming to buy at 2-3K. ...These guys are pretending to be successful traders but 99% of them are complete failures. They just spread FUD with the hope to turn the few bucks (left from the altcoins fiasco) to millions,  buying as low as possible! All this is just "food for thought" for the noobs who believe Tera and co are sincere in their 'realistic predictions'.

+WO merit ( now i got back a few Smerit) i like to send them as well 
Nicely spoken

[Toxic2040]

I have a naturally suspicious mind I suppose. I like to think its just a natural degeneracy related to autism.(/s) Of course as I have said...I've been wrong before and will be again.

Idle speculation.

According to the talking heads over at CNBC the downturn in the stock market was caused by 3 reasons.

1. The latest market downturn began shortly after the government Friday reported a sharp rise in average hourly earnings of 2.9 percent annualized.

2. Investors have been fearing that inflation will push the Fed into raising rates more quickly than anticipated.

3. Treating good news as bad news is an ugly harbinger, another classic sign of a late-stage bull market that chills trading floors.

I have a slightly different take on it for your consumption.

What if its funds fleeing a outdated legacy system to try and get a early entrance into a paradigm changing new asset class.  Hows that for spin?

Regardless of your feelings on it, the fact remains that bitcoin has remained rock solid throughout the day as it shrugged off the nearly 3% slide of the American stock market.

As the daily gets ready to close we have had light volumes trading in a mostly positive direction. I am expecting volume to increase significantly over the coming weekend.
#dyor #btfd #cryptouplift

[El duderino_]

BUT offcourse nobody knows whats Going to happen , BUT patterns / TA / Drawing lines over and over again on the same charts/ ...... is all searching in the dust trying to predict the unpredictable .... offcourse sometimes out of all the predictions Will be one that got iT right
Even @ the ATH list 2 times same Guy very close .... last time very wrong its all a guess with those who have long term believe and those that hope iT would fail.....

Rest is Just talk and fun and adrenaline and FUD and for Some emotionally attachment and So on .....

[Ivor Biggun]

BUT offcourse nobody knows whats Going to happen , BUT patterns / TA / Drawing lines over and over again on the same charts/ ...... is all searching in the sust trying to predict the onpredictable .... offcourse somethimes out of all the predictions Will be one Thats got iT right
Even @ the ATH list 2 times same Guy very close .... last time very wrong its all a guess with those who have long term believe and those that hope iT would fail.....

Rest is Just talk and fun and adrenaline and FUD and for Some emotionally attachment and So on .....

There's always one guy who says "I successfully called the bottom/top last time, so my next call must be right". His next call is inevitably wrong.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[drays]

Yup, there is always somebody like that
This time its me  

As there are so many professional traders here (who apparently understand much more than me), and as far as there was a talk regarding the similarity of current bubble to 2013-2014 one, I would like to ask if anyone thinks this my assumption from one month ago makes any sense:

Interesting... If we take the pattern of the 2013-2014 bubble (for example from here: https://mobile.twitter.com/cryptohodlor/status/958352479934017539/photo/1) and just plainly apply it on current one, we can notice up to now everything seems extremely similar. Even the bounce levels are exactly the same, we just need to make two adjustments:
 1. The price on the old chart has to be multiplied by around x18 (the total peak of 1.1K becomes 20K, the first bounce start of 330 becomes 6K, the bounce peak of 670 becomes 12K etc)
 2. The time scale needs to be adjusted by around x3 (things now seem to change 3x faster)

With those adjustments to the old chart we get exactly what we have now in 2018.

If this analogy is correct, the absolute bottom of this beginning bear market will be around 3.8-4K, it will be reached in around 4 months from the peak (somewhere in April), and the overall length of bear market would be around 8 months (rising back somewhere in August?).

When I posted this about one month ago, we were out of 6K lows, but didn't reach the 12K top yet. I was actually surprised to see it was quite precise. Does anyone think such scenario (especially the time schedule) sounds realistic?

BTW, if this analogy/prediction is correct, we will witness a big sell-off very soon - starting maybe in about 5-15 days - first to about 7.2K, then to under 5.4K one-two weeks later, before having a temporary bounce to almost the current levels . I'm not happy to tell that, but well, if it indeed follows the old graph, things will be good longterm, and thats the most important.

P.S.Excuse my English, once again

[pfrtlpfmpf]

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Btw: i love the

 "Question" : . . . God
 "Answer" : . . . Bless     part.

[Ivor Biggun]

Does anyone think such scenario (especially the time schedule) sounds realistic?

No, it's probably going to be inevitably wrong.

[Ivor Biggun]

Guys, i got mail from Melania Trump, at first i didn´t believe it, but when i take my handsomeness into consideration, anything is possible, what do you suggest i should do ? Time is of essence ! :

I didn't know Melania Trump was a Nigerian princess.