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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 2 (1.8%)
<$6,500 - 7 (6.3%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (0.9%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.8%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.7%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (5.4%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3.6%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (10.8%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (11.7%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 6 (5.4%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (5.4%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (9.9%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 10 (9%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 7 (6.3%)
>$9,500 - 14 (12.6%)
$20,000 - 7 (6.3%)
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March 12, 2018, 11:05:30 AM

Don't feel too guilty. Our rektonings will come.

http://trilema.com/2018/the-republic-without-mp/

Hah.  Is the author having a seizure?  I couldn’t get past the second paragraph.  


Was Occupy Wall Street a left wing thing?  The movement wasn’t supported by Libertarians?
OWS had a good number of leftist/socialist dweebs in it. Not sure if there were right wingers as well. But most of the people that I've heard talk were a bunch of morons who blamed capitalism for everything without even understanding the most basic basics of Economics and voluntary exchange.
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March 12, 2018, 11:05:57 AM

https://i.imgur.com/pCvwxwS.png

TERA future visions from early Feb, do you see it as being at the pink arrow?
I cant say since the rest of the chart didnt really fit.
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March 12, 2018, 11:10:18 AM

Going up at the moment.

But I would not celebrate yet.

We had this a couple of times where it went until 11k, 11,5k and bounced back to sub 9k.

I will celebrate if we crack the almighte 12k ;-)
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March 12, 2018, 11:13:43 AM

Cloud mining contracts are a security

https://bitsonline.com/genesis-mining-securities/
Well IANAL, but the fact that a contract is a scam doesn't mean it can't be a security. Or does it?

Care to expand?  I have no interest in cloud mining contracts so haven’t followed this one. 
Well I haven't followed this one either, so I was just assuming.

All the cloud mining contracts I've checked out are losing deals, in the sense that you get less than you would by just buying bitcoin. And then the contract expires (while bitcoin doesn't). Maybe naming this particular contract a scam was a bit far fetched, but I wouldn't sign into it.
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March 12, 2018, 11:15:29 AM

Chart seemed to catch the movements pretty well, all the main thrusts were pretty close to fitting. It doesn't seem like anything has changed structurally, it's still in a glade until it looks down, and time is running out. Future options from here:

- Massive volume run up past 11, this would allow a chance at a new dead cat high and buy another 2-4 weeks

- Sideways for a few days or weeks and then crash again
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March 12, 2018, 11:19:51 AM

I want to believe in 10x per year support line:

512 -> 5120 -> 51200




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March 12, 2018, 11:32:18 AM

Bitstamp and CME on the future of futures.  11am Eastern time.

http://www.workcast.com/register?cpak=6985576196751870
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March 12, 2018, 11:32:40 AM

Cloud mining contracts are a security

https://bitsonline.com/genesis-mining-securities/
Well IANAL, but the fact that a contract is a scam doesn't mean it can't be a security. Or does it?

The easy way for them to get out of this is for them to describe the contracts as leases, which are by definition not securities, but they didn't, so idiots.
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March 12, 2018, 11:34:05 AM

A few months ago someone asked me how even BTC storage solutions like
a cold wallet can be secure when anyone can theoretically guess the private
key of any wallet.

Today I discovered this beautiful illustration  Grin



If anyone of you is trying to guess a specific Bitcoin private key, I guess
you can safely stop this endeavour now.
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March 12, 2018, 11:35:50 AM

Ok but you cant brute force powerball numbers with a computer at 1ghs or discover math formulas to reverse engineer it.
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March 12, 2018, 11:45:16 AM
Merited by yefi (1), explorer (1)

You can brute force Powerball with a pen and paper.  That’s what the population is doing every week.
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March 12, 2018, 11:46:21 AM

You can brute force Powerball with a pen and paper.  That’s what the population is doing every week.
But there is a high cost for each guess.
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March 12, 2018, 11:57:21 AM

Indeed.  Now I need to go away and think about what that might mean in crypto.  What if miners had to pay a fee to mine but that was their entry ticket to a prize pool?  What does that mean in game theory terms?
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March 12, 2018, 12:11:59 PM

I had not seen that before.  Thank you.

It would be helpful to get the original Japanese and have a second opinion from a native speaker as to the meaning of the bolded words.  
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This is his site so he might hear you Wink


Satoshi does not want to have anything to do with us or anyone for that matter. He/she is just probably chill in some semi-tropical place like Azerbaijan, South Korea or Chile, with a drink in his/her hand, with his/her family by his/her side. Smiley
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March 12, 2018, 12:25:44 PM

You can brute force Powerball with a pen and paper.  That’s what the population is doing every week.
But there is a high cost for each guess.
And the reward distribution system is a mess, they tell me.
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March 12, 2018, 12:54:32 PM

https://www.deribit.com/main#/futures?tab=BTC-30MAR18
Think I saw this before then forgot. It is tiny. Any one used it or know the people?
Deribit: The Futures And Option Exchange For Cryptocurrencies
Deribit is live since June 2016 after several years of development. John Jansen, the original founder teamed up with Marius Jansen, Sebastian Smyczýnski and Andrew Yanovsky. Deribit started as a Bitcoin Futures and Options trading platform going live in the summer of 2016. We run our daily office from Amsterdam (The Netherlands).
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March 12, 2018, 12:56:22 PM

Looks like a promising start of the week for BTCitcoin  Cool
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March 12, 2018, 01:08:52 PM

Indeed.  Now I need to go away and think about what that might mean in crypto.  What if miners had to pay a fee to mine but that was their entry ticket to a prize pool?  What does that mean in game theory terms?
Miners do pay a fee to mine, hardware cost and electricity cost.
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March 12, 2018, 01:09:29 PM

Hardware is paid once up front, not per guess, and electricity is free in certain places.
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