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March 29, 2018, 12:44:42 PM

I don't usually post here but in my opinion the current downtrend and stagnation is because of the mt. gox coins. It's like a looming sword hanging over bitcoin. I didn't buy into most FUD like China ban, Korea ban, etc. but personally when I read that Kobayashi sold thousands of coins, and could possibly sell many, many more it was the first time I actually got worried for bitcoin. If I was an investor, and thinking of investing a million or two, into bitcoin, this news would absolutely change my mind. Not only is it very plausible that those coins can be sold in the near future, but the impact is very clear.

I don't think the crash from the ATH was caused by Kobayashi, but I think the current stagnation and continuing down-trend certainly was. It has made people much more cautious and the only way out of this is if the court in Japan would release a statement that these coins will 100% not be sold but returned to the original owners in some fashion (as they should be). I know there was a statement that, until September, there will be no further sell-off but as an investor, 6 months are too soon for me to risk any significant amount just to have bitcoin dumped by a whale, or more appropriately, the mother of all whales. I am hoping this is not discouraging, I hope to be wrong and believe this can be turned around but to be honest right now I don't know how.
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March 29, 2018, 12:57:34 PM
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March Futures contracts on bitcoin are ending in next 24 hours. Rapid moves can be expected at times approaching futures contract settlements.

Bitcoin dominance now 45.6%.

Next 24 hours are going to be interesting, if it touches $7300 and bounces back, it'd be a double bottom with the last dip.
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March 29, 2018, 12:58:55 PM
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No earthquake, no imminent disaster, no fear, no Gox. This weekend is just starting earlier because of Easter. Weekdays resume on Tuesday.

How low’s it gonna be by then though? I’m sensing a drop to $5xxx which would suck!
Low $6xxx surely.

Another SureFire estimate(TM) by SOMA Analytics!

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March 29, 2018, 01:12:17 PM

No earthquake, no imminent disaster, no fear, no Gox. This weekend is just starting earlier because of Easter. Weekdays resume on Tuesday.

I think weakness would be mostly attributed to end of tax year?     Its left a regular downtrend, this is just irregular selling.   I would put a target of 7300 for the last trend as a bottom and 8300 as a target upside that would meet alot of the trades with price previously going sideways.

I'm not certain its in play yet or not but theres a very old trend going back to last May, price is now about 6991.   Its the same line which formed the bottom in Feb
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March 29, 2018, 01:16:43 PM

We're going back to 3k for the next accumulation phase before the next major bull run in 2019/2020.
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March 29, 2018, 01:17:20 PM

As bad as it looks at the moment. The order book on bitstamp looks much different today. Gone are the series of walls which stopped any movement to the upside and its basically flat above $7800. Of course they can reappear at any time but they were constant over the last month or so.
It will also take a catalyst to get things moving
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March 29, 2018, 01:22:15 PM
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Guys, your reasons for the continuing downtrend are all wrong.

It's pretty simple.

1. Whale(s) spend a full year pumping Bitcoin and altcoins to the moon, using massive leverage.

2. Whale(s) gain control of the float and thin it out, pushing prices to the moon.

3. Whale(s) massively short sell/dump in one go. Ending bull run.  Whale mega money then sits on sidelines.

4. Whale(s) use lotza coins to squeeze remaining float up and down to make money trading. Mostly down.

5. Average Joes finally lose interest. Sell at bottom.

... and then... eventually... (*we are not there yet*)...

6. Whale(s) use sidelined mega money to scoop up cheap coins at the bottom. Downtrend over. Next bull run starts.

There are no "reasons". There are no plausible "FUD". Its just the way it goes.

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March 29, 2018, 01:26:24 PM

Guys, your reasons for the continuing downtrend are all wrong.

It's pretty simple.

1. Whale(s) spend a full year pumping Bitcoin and altcoins to the moon, using massive leverage.

2. Whale(s) gain control of the float and thin it out, pushing prices to the moon.

3. Whale(s) massively short sell/dump in one go. Ending bull run.  Whale mega money then sits on sidelines.

4. Whale(s) use lotza coins to squeeze remaining float up and down to make money trading. Mostly down.

5. Average Joes finally lose interest. Sell at bottom.

... and then... eventually... (*we are not there yet*)...

6. Whale(s) use sidelined mega money to scoop up cheap coins at the bottom. Downtrend over. Next bull run starts.

There are no "reasons". There are no plausible "FUD". Its just the way it goes.



Exactly - and 6 will not start until maximum despair

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March 29, 2018, 01:27:45 PM

Guys, your reasons for the continuing downtrend are all wrong.

It's pretty simple.

1. Whale(s) spend a full year pumping Bitcoin and altcoins to the moon, using massive leverage.

2. Whale(s) gain control of the float and thin it out, pushing prices to the moon.

3. Whale(s) massively short sell/dump in one go. Ending bull run.  Whale mega money then sits on sidelines.

4. Whale(s) use lotza coins to squeeze remaining float up and down to make money trading. Mostly down.

5. Average Joes finally lose interest. Sell at bottom.

... and then... eventually... (*we are not there yet*)...

6. Whale(s) use sidelined mega money to scoop up cheap coins at the bottom. Downtrend over. Next bull run starts.

There are no "reasons". There are no plausible "FUD". Its just the way it goes.


and you just surf the waves that whales do. Profit!
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March 29, 2018, 01:32:27 PM

Guys, your reasons for the continuing downtrend are all wrong.

It's pretty simple.

1. Whale(s) spend a full year pumping Bitcoin and altcoins to the moon, using massive leverage.

2. Whale(s) gain control of the float and thin it out, pushing prices to the moon.

3. Whale(s) massively short sell/dump in one go. Ending bull run.  Whale mega money then sits on sidelines.

4. Whale(s) use lotza coins to squeeze remaining float up and down to make money trading. Mostly down.

5. Average Joes finally lose interest. Sell at bottom.

... and then... eventually... (*we are not there yet*)...

6. Whale(s) use sidelined mega money to scoop up cheap coins at the bottom. Downtrend over. Next bull run starts.

There are no "reasons". There are no plausible "FUD". Its just the way it goes.



Avarage Joe hasn't lost interest yet. You still seem very interested.
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March 29, 2018, 01:34:34 PM

So, it's all pump and dump, but what's the true value of bitcoin?

is 7k cheap enough for these fuckers ? or do we have to go lower ?
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March 29, 2018, 01:45:56 PM

Guys, your reasons for the continuing downtrend are all wrong.

It's pretty simple.

1. Whale(s) spend a full year pumping Bitcoin and altcoins to the moon, using massive leverage.

2. Whale(s) gain control of the float and thin it out, pushing prices to the moon.

3. Whale(s) massively short sell/dump in one go. Ending bull run.  Whale mega money then sits on sidelines.

4. Whale(s) use lotza coins to squeeze remaining float up and down to make money trading. Mostly down.

5. Average Joes finally lose interest. Sell at bottom.

... and then... eventually... (*we are not there yet*)...

6. Whale(s) use sidelined mega money to scoop up cheap coins at the bottom. Downtrend over. Next bull run starts.

There are no "reasons". There are no plausible "FUD". Its just the way it goes.

Avarage Joe hasn't lost interest yet. You still seem very interested.

Except he isn't Average Joe.

P.S. Are we not overfeeding the trolls? They're growing a bit fat and bold. Their smell is starting to make the place unpleasant to visit.
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March 29, 2018, 01:55:48 PM

Maybe it's time to get back to $8000? Maybe tomorrow?
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March 29, 2018, 01:59:47 PM

Maybe it's time to get back to $8000? Maybe tomorrow?

Seems possible. I don't believe those who say we go below 5k but let's see
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March 29, 2018, 02:10:20 PM

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Blockstream Inc, a blockchain solution company founded in 2014, has released a new Lightning App (LApp). It’s a WordPress plugin that allows users to accept payment in Bitcoin and other Lightning network supported crypto-currencies.

https://blockmanity.com/wordpress-websites-can-now-accept-instant-bitcoin-payments/
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March 29, 2018, 02:24:41 PM

Except he isn't Average Joe.

Oh yeah? Please explain.
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March 29, 2018, 02:26:12 PM

No earthquake, no imminent disaster, no fear, no Gox. This weekend is just starting earlier because of Easter. Weekdays resume on Tuesday.

How low’s it gonna be by then though? I’m sensing a drop to $5xxx which would suck!

Feels bad enough at the £5xxx range its in now - guess it depends upon how much more FUD comes out of the mainstream news outlets - stock markets are dropping a little and they are trying to make sure BTC isn't used as a  store of value

who will buy with real bread sub $5000?  Cool hehe
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Blockstream Inc, a blockchain solution company founded in 2014, has released a new Lightning App (LApp). It’s a WordPress plugin that allows users to accept payment in Bitcoin and other Lightning network supported crypto-currencies.

https://blockmanity.com/wordpress-websites-can-now-accept-instant-bitcoin-payments/

The more good news we get the more gloomy it'll be. 2014 was possibly the high point for good news. That just made Bitcoin double down on the fountain of feculence it was blasting into your gullet.
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March 29, 2018, 02:33:34 PM

Keep wanting to believe that 2014/2015 bear market is unlikely, even Tom Lee said on cnbc fast money the other day that there are WAY more on-ramps than there were back then. Also at end of 2013 when price ran up to 1200 the biggest exchange got hacked (gox obviously), holy buckets are things different now....

But I guess if tether somehow collapsed it could cause a similar systemic dump?

Maybe I am delusional and only want to remain a perma-bull, so shoot me..
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