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April 17, 2018, 01:28:49 PM


And if you complain about migrants on facebook or twitter, you go to jail. At least in germany and england, same pattern everywhere, just a matter of degrees.

Slight exaggeration. If true, the 51.9% of UK population who voted for Brexit primarily due to immigration concerns would be in jail.  You can complain about migrants, it's racism which is illegal and rightly so.

In other news....it's a sea of green in cryptoland  Grin
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April 17, 2018, 01:31:25 PM

I can't believe what's happening over there in Europe.

It's terrifying to me.

Guess (((who))) we have to thank for it.



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April 17, 2018, 01:32:17 PM

work illegally

something is seriously wrong with any system where work is ever illegal

We're also still plugging away at a tried and failed system,  democracy and capitalism. So ya, things look kinda grim in the forecast while the majority of us either consent to doom or try to find the best loophole to escape cope with it.    
So, what's the alternative to capitalism in your book? Cause I don't see anything wrong with it. It's the only system, if unobstructed, that self-regulates. Everything else is artificially steered by humans, humans that are inherently incapable of seeing the bigger picture of all the interactions in a system as complex as our planet. And so far I haven't even read about anything that comes even remotely close to capitalism.

Democracy on the other hand... is just the opposite extreme of authoritarian regimes and ultimately not much different.

capitalism feeds the human greed that's the biggest issue i see with it... That greed then leads man to make immoral decisions. The more power you have the better are the chances of you getting away with the crime...

Surely I don't have a working model for humans to follow vs. capitalism and I agree with Thekool1s, greed and power seeking are the largest problems. Greed and power separates us fundamentally.    
I'm not sure how long but I don't believe capitalism will exist far into our evolution. I think our unique ability to be conscience of ourselves will ultimately lead us back to hive mind where 1 is no more important than another and in fact its critical that all participate selflessly and  simultaneously. Sort of like ants. Fire-ants if you like  Grin or bees.  Sure, there's a queen but shes not an authoritarian figure but responsible to create the strongest and most efficient community for the whole. Quite contrary to our current and historical attempts.
Humans cannot possibly evolve without passing through this simple and fundamental value of selflessness.
Democracy suggests that the majority will pass a vote. Compounded with greed (capitalism) leads to corruption and ultimately tyranny where only division is possible.  Currently humans are the biggest joke on the planet although we are unique in our ability to be self aware and pursue individual free will (tainted by our own constructs of democracy and capitalism).  
Hive mind in my opinion is the only way forward and when we start to become this, those previous constructs will dissolve.
Hypergamy ensures there will always be competition for resources.
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April 17, 2018, 01:34:22 PM


And if you complain about migrants on facebook or twitter, you go to jail. At least in germany and england, same pattern everywhere, just a matter of degrees.

Slight exaggeration. If true, the 51.9% of UK population who voted for Brexit primarily due to immigration concerns would be in jail.  You can complain about migrants, it's racism which is illegal and rightly so.

In other news....it's a sea of green in cryptoland  Grin
No exaggeration. Check Sargon on youtube, he covers this shit. It's happening. Also look up the nazi pug while at it.
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You can complain about migrants, it's racism which is illegal and rightly so.

Rightly what? Illegal opinions? That's the last stage of cucked.
edit: Cuckstians think they're cool but they're really just virtue signal larpers/faggots.

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April 17, 2018, 01:41:09 PM


And if you complain about migrants on facebook or twitter, you go to jail. At least in germany and england, same pattern everywhere, just a matter of degrees.

Slight exaggeration. If true, the 51.9% of UK population who voted for Brexit primarily due to immigration concerns would be in jail.  You can complain about migrants, it's racism which is illegal and rightly so.

In other news....it's a sea of green in cryptoland  Grin
No exaggeration. Check Sargon on youtube, he covers this shit. It's happening. Also look up the nazi pug while at it.

Oh, must be true then. I've just posted an anti-immigration tweet here in UK.  I'll let you know if I go to jail.
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April 17, 2018, 01:43:25 PM



Soon...

Send you my last merit, because Vegeta.

FOMO is getting to me because I didn't pull the trigger at $ 7k
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So, what's the alternative to capitalism in your book? Cause I don't see anything wrong with it. It's the only system, if unobstructed, that self-regulates. Everything else is artificially steered by humans, humans that are inherently incapable of seeing the bigger picture of all the interactions in a system as complex as our planet. And so far I haven't even read about anything that comes even remotely close to capitalism.

Democracy on the other hand... is just the opposite extreme of authoritarian regimes and ultimately not much different.

Capitalism self-regulates just fine in some cases, like it will determine the number of barbershops in a town. But there are other cases: bank runs, monopolies, etc.
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So, what's the alternative to capitalism in your book? Cause I don't see anything wrong with it. It's the only system, if unobstructed, that self-regulates. Everything else is artificially steered by humans, humans that are inherently incapable of seeing the bigger picture of all the interactions in a system as complex as our planet. And so far I haven't even read about anything that comes even remotely close to capitalism.

Democracy on the other hand... is just the opposite extreme of authoritarian regimes and ultimately not much different.

Capitalism self-regulates just fine in some cases, like it will determine the number of barbershops in a town. But there are other cases: bank runs, monopolies, etc.
Bank runs are only a problem because banks lend out 50 times more than they have.
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April 17, 2018, 02:22:17 PM

https://twitter.com/Pepillionaire/status/985400164046327808 Nice. South Park meets btc advice.
twitter is intermittently broken, so meanwhile, on capitalism:

https://medium.com/@jimmysong/why-bitcoin-works-fe32879a73f5
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Bitcoin’s main benefit to society can be understood as bringing back sound money. Sound money allows for capital accumulation which allows for investment, leading to better goods and services for less effort. This, in turn, benefits all of civilization. We’re not there yet, but this is the main value proposition.

Contrast this to our society which is based on fiat money and you can see the difference. Instead of a large number of rent seekers, we instead get entrepreneurs. Instead of people playing zero sum games, we get innovations that add to the pie.

In short, Bitcoin works because Bitcoin is sound money. And sound money changes everything. Bitcoin will change the role of government, how people relate to one another, how people will perceive the future, how everyone will plan, etc. Bitcoin is nothing less than a complete upheaval of the current fiat system with large second and third order effects that incentivize building instead of rent-seeking.

Welcome to the revolution.
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April 17, 2018, 02:36:45 PM

Not to mention the landfill mountain of debt money fueled garbage products.

It is impossible to make a profit manufacturing items of real quality in this environment.  When the money is meaningless, and constantly devaluing, people will buy anything.

The ecological consequences of the fiat system have been profound, it can't end soon enough.
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So, what's the alternative to capitalism in your book? Cause I don't see anything wrong with it. It's the only system, if unobstructed, that self-regulates. Everything else is artificially steered by humans, humans that are inherently incapable of seeing the bigger picture of all the interactions in a system as complex as our planet. And so far I haven't even read about anything that comes even remotely close to capitalism.

Democracy on the other hand... is just the opposite extreme of authoritarian regimes and ultimately not much different.

Capitalism self-regulates just fine in some cases, like it will determine the number of barbershops in a town. But there are other cases: bank runs, monopolies, etc.
Bank runs are only a problem because banks lend out 50 times more than they have.

It's just an example of an unstable system. There are plenty of such examples, aside from banks. Sometimes a small problem for a company might create a self-fulfilling prophecy, and lead to bigger and bigger problems.
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April 17, 2018, 02:55:01 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMVYFPEbLVo Pornhub and Verge Cryptocurrency - The Future has Cum
pl halp i wanna go home nao kthx
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April 17, 2018, 02:58:47 PM


And if you complain about migrants on facebook or twitter, you go to jail. At least in germany and england, same pattern everywhere, just a matter of degrees.

Slight exaggeration. If true, the 51.9% of UK population who voted for Brexit primarily due to immigration concerns would be in jail.  You can complain about migrants, it's racism which is illegal and rightly so.

In other news....it's a sea of green in cryptoland  Grin

Racism is illegal? Despite our problems, I'm often glad I live in America, where at least we have truly free speech.
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April 17, 2018, 03:01:32 PM


So, what's the alternative to capitalism in your book? Cause I don't see anything wrong with it. It's the only system, if unobstructed, that self-regulates. Everything else is artificially steered by humans, humans that are inherently incapable of seeing the bigger picture of all the interactions in a system as complex as our planet. And so far I haven't even read about anything that comes even remotely close to capitalism.

Democracy on the other hand... is just the opposite extreme of authoritarian regimes and ultimately not much different.

Capitalism self-regulates just fine in some cases, like it will determine the number of barbershops in a town. But there are other cases: bank runs, monopolies, etc.
Bank runs are only a problem because banks lend out 50 times more than they have.

It's just an example of an unstable system. There are plenty of such examples, aside from banks. Sometimes a small problem for a company might create a self-fulfilling prophecy, and lead to bigger and bigger problems.
It has nothing to do with capitalism. What banks do is fraud, and anyone else would go to jail over it.
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And if you complain about migrants on facebook or twitter, you go to jail. At least in germany and england, same pattern everywhere, just a matter of degrees.

Slight exaggeration. If true, the 51.9% of UK population who voted for Brexit primarily due to immigration concerns would be in jail.  You can complain about migrants, it's racism which is illegal and rightly so.

In other news....it's a sea of green in cryptoland  Grin

Racism is illegal? Despite our problems, I'm often glad I live in America, where at least we have truly free speech.
No you don't. Not since the invention of hate speech.
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And if you complain about migrants on facebook or twitter, you go to jail. At least in germany and england, same pattern everywhere, just a matter of degrees.

Slight exaggeration. If true, the 51.9% of UK population who voted for Brexit primarily due to immigration concerns would be in jail.  You can complain about migrants, it's racism which is illegal and rightly so.

In other news....it's a sea of green in cryptoland  Grin

Racism is illegal? Despite our problems, I'm often glad I live in America, where at least we have truly free speech.
No you don't. Not since the invention of hate speech.

Hate speech is still legal and protected speech.
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April 17, 2018, 03:15:06 PM


Localbitcoins went all kyc/aml.
At least they tell you about the info retention. Other firms, not so much.
afaiac, they were always mitm-bait.
The twitterati are recommending hodlhodl and bisq now instead.
But otc for the win, it's the only way to be sure.
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April 17, 2018, 03:48:40 PM

American bank Goldman Sachs raises profits by more than a quarter


Dutch news www.nu.nl



Yea Damn they makes profits with there fake news bringin the price down And buying cheap in


Fuckerssssss
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meh, edge cases

In almost every industry the quality of even the very finest examples are being dragged down by the lowest common denominator.

$700 Hilti drill has plastic gears

No dial indicators currently being manufactured to historical standards

Antique machine tools are being rebuilt for industry as machines of similar quality can not be procured at any price.

I believe the debt money is the primary cause of our state of industrial decline.




also...Apple?, quality hardware?  really Bob?
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