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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 9 (6.3%)
H2 2019 - 15 (10.4%)
H1 2020 - 27 (18.8%)
H2 2020 - 26 (18.1%)
H1 2021 - 12 (8.3%)
H2 2021 - 28 (19.4%)
H1 2022 - 6 (4.2%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.8%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 2 (1.4%)
2024 or Later - 15 (10.4%)
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June 28, 2018, 11:56:33 AM

https://www.ccn.com/exclusive-south-korea-reveals-new-positive-crypto-regulatory-guidelines/

reversal korean fud
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June 28, 2018, 12:03:15 PM
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Alright look guys. This whole bcash shill thing needs to stop. It has become an automatic reaction for some of you. Kind of like how SJWs call everyone nazis.

There is a simple test for these things. If you can't say something positive about your opponents, then you are the ideologue. Let's have a group exercise this morning. Say something nice about bcashers.

The point is, if one has to "shill" for their favorite shitcoin like it's some kind of silly, teenage popularity contest then they've already lost. Because that's called a fad. And fads always fade away into the shitcoin graveyard of oblivion (Note the past zombies NXT, feathercoin, primecoin, auracoin, vertcoin, dogecoin, etc., etc.)

Many shitcoins are already dead, they just don't know it yet because they are zombies. And shill all you want, if merchants aren't interested in adopting your shitcoin, and investors don't care, then it's already over for ya. Sorry.

The world doesn't need 1000 cryptocurrencies to succeed. It only needs one : BitcoinTM. And Bitcoin doesn't need shilling and marketing to succeed. It just needs people to discover, buy, and use it.
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June 28, 2018, 12:31:18 PM
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OT: Here's video of a cute market analyst talking about the current Chinese stock market.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-06-28/are-china-markets-having-a-2015-moment-video

Notice that through the entire short video, there's absolutely no discussion at all of the actual underlying Chinese economy itself and whether the market accurately reflects it or not. Just a bunch of blather about possible de-leveraging and the Chinese government's ability to manage the markets effectively or not.

Point? Fake, propped up market completely decoupled from reality.
Yup, thought she was a 7 at first, but then she started talking. 6/10 would not invest.

Every year China financial analysts bet each other on the 2nd and 3rd figures in the growth figures to be announced. Obviously it's gonna be 6.8something percent, but what exactly? 6.811%? 6.873%?

also ot: a great if old report on China consumer https://twitter.com/3747S_14458E/status/1012295079996764161
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June 28, 2018, 12:44:18 PM

Well, at least somebody is trying to hold "The bottom" up... . (Mic post some good pic)  Cheesy Wink

Confirmed. Bottom is being held up.




Sometimes I feel like my biggest contribution to this thread is butt pictures, but I guess that's good enough.
We are really in the bottom indeed! i like what's on the inner side loool  XD. really looking forward to see Bitcoin back again at it's 10k mark atleast.
That's interesting... I mean not only the image Tongue

How would you say that we have already reached the bottom?
Price of Bitcoin is at the 6000$ Barrier since april/may it has not even moved below that mark well i think that's the bottom of it bro. still optimistic for a comeback with the price around oct-nov Wink
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June 28, 2018, 01:11:43 PM
Last edit: June 28, 2018, 01:25:21 PM by realr0ach

Since really every person was talking about Bitcoin during the last Bullrun, I think there is too much weight on it in order to have the crazy and relentless growth we saw the last time.

The last bitcoin pump and dump to $20k was the one where the general public actually came in to buy, unlike previous bubbles.  Since the general public already came in, who is supposed to be the greater fool to buy the next pump and dump?  Martians?  All these Wall Street and Goldman Sachs Jew's main goal is ALWAYS to try and dump toxic waste on the general public for profit ($1400 Ethereums anyone?).  That package has already been delivered to the unhappy customers who probably don't want to receive any more packages.

So yes, the criminal owners of Bitfinex and their Tether scam will probably attempt to raise the price by fraud once again at some point, but there's not gonna be any buyers for it.  Then it will collapse back down in on itself.
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June 28, 2018, 01:42:48 PM


Brainwashed.


Who is your employer? Roger, Jihan or Brian?

Lol. You obviously didn’t read the “Satoshi not Core” link. I don’t work for scammers. Nor do I work for Core scammers. Yet I repeat myself.

I hope you aren’t under some illusion that BCH is Satoshi’s immutable protocol.

Nope. I ve read it and as I see you are just a different attacker who is trying to fork another altcoin from btc without any segwit in it. That's retarded because it already exists, bcash.

Since bcash is a failed coup and will never ever succeed, i guess this is Roger&Jihan's next plan.

A direct attack coming from miners.

You know who else described a similar story not so long ago? Jbreher, another bcash shill.

Haha mindrust, you're such a treat.

Words have meanings. I am not renumerated by others for my BCH advocacy. Accordingly, I am not a shill.

Further, it seems your comprehension skills are completely lacking. To read anunymint's writings and conclude that he is trying to fork an altcoin off of BTC is just laughable.

Lastly your seeming insistence that Roger, Jihan, and Brian are some sort of boogeymen belies a very childish world outlook.
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June 28, 2018, 01:43:09 PM

Alright look guys. This whole bcash shill thing needs to stop. It has become an automatic reaction for some of you. Kind of like how SJWs call everyone nazis.

There is a simple test for these things. If you can't say something positive about your opponents, then you are the ideologue. Let's have a group exercise this morning. Say something nice about bcashers.

The point is, if one has to "shill" for their favorite shitcoin like it's some kind of silly, teenage popularity contest then they've already lost. Because that's called a fad. And fads always fade away into the shitcoin graveyard of oblivion (Note the past zombies NXT, feathercoin, primecoin, auracoin, vertcoin, dogecoin, etc., etc.)

Many shitcoins are already dead, they just don't know it yet because they are zombies. And shill all you want, if merchants aren't interested in adopting your shitcoin, and investors don't care, then it's already over for ya. Sorry.

The world doesn't need 1000 cryptocurrencies to succeed. It only needs one : BitcoinTM. And Bitcoin doesn't need shilling and marketing to succeed. It just needs people to discover, buy, and use it.
The point is that people who are not shilling anything are being called shills. It's exactly the same process as when lefties call peoples nazis. It doesn't mean anything anymore, beyond "shut up".
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June 28, 2018, 01:52:53 PM

OT: Here's video of a cute market analyst talking about the current Chinese stock market.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-06-28/are-china-markets-having-a-2015-moment-video

Notice that through the entire short video, there's absolutely no discussion at all of the actual underlying Chinese economy itself and whether the market accurately reflects it or not. Just a bunch of blather about possible de-leveraging and the Chinese government's ability to manage the markets effectively or not.

Point? Fake, propped up market completely decoupled from reality.
Yup, thought she was a 7 at first, but then she started talking. 6/10 would not invest.

Every year China financial analysts bet each other on the 2nd and 3rd figures in the growth figures to be announced. Obviously it's gonna be 6.8something percent, but what exactly? 6.811%? 6.873%?

also ot: a great if old report on China consumer https://twitter.com/3747S_14458E/status/1012295079996764161
China, double figure grow at any price, yes thats right no room on bicycle way because of bicycles.
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2018/03/bike-share-oversupply-in-china-huge-piles-of-abandoned-and-broken-bicycles/556268/
Lets not even talk about the cityes build in some remote place and can house millions
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June 28, 2018, 02:04:28 PM


Words have meanings. I am not renumerated by others for my BCH advocacy. Accordingly, I am not a shill.


Language changes news at eleven. Have you not noticed, you silly old fossil?

Lotsa the young now use 'shill' to mean 'advocate' or 'adherent' and they use 'paid shill' to mean that insult that scares you so, the older-fashioned 'shill'.

I am a bitcoin shill. You are a shitcoin shill. Deal with it lol.
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June 28, 2018, 02:31:46 PM

Have you ever heard the saying there is no bad advertising? Every time you engage with these supporters of alt coins..in a bitcoin thread.. its exactly like that. Just my two sats.

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Words have meanings. I am not renumerated by others for my BCH advocacy. Accordingly, I am not a shill.


Language changes news at eleven. Have you not noticed, you silly old fossil?

Lotsa the young now use 'shill' to mean 'advocate' or 'adherent' and they use 'paid shill' to mean that insult that scares you so, the older-fashioned 'shill'.

I am a bitcoin shill. You are a shitcoin shill. Deal with it lol.
He is, however, profiting from doing so, which is an indirect form of shilling.

That's not the problem. The problem is that a lot of you use it simply as a catch-all to shut people up.
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Words have meanings. I am not renumerated by others for my BCH advocacy. Accordingly, I am not a shill.


Language changes news at eleven. Have you not noticed, you silly old fossil?

Lotsa the young now use 'shill' to mean 'advocate' or 'adherent' and they use 'paid shill' to mean that insult that scares you so, the older-fashioned 'shill'.

I am a bitcoin shill. You are a shitcoin shill. Deal with it lol.
He is, however, profiting from doing so, which is an indirect form of shilling.

That's not the problem. The problem is that a lot of you use it simply as a catch-all to shut people up.

Again no. It is your problem not 'the' problem. You don't like it, fine, good, but own it, say 'my problem'.
I don't happen to agree, as I reckon we would all be better off if the language police could fuck off and leave us to shutting a lot more people the fuck up by whatever means necessary.
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Words have meanings. I am not renumerated by others for my BCH advocacy. Accordingly, I am not a shill.


Language changes news at eleven. Have you not noticed, you silly old fossil?

Lotsa the young now use 'shill' to mean 'advocate' or 'adherent' and they use 'paid shill' to mean that insult that scares you so, the older-fashioned 'shill'.

I am a bitcoin shill. You are a shitcoin shill. Deal with it lol.
He is, however, profiting from doing so, which is an indirect form of shilling.

That's not the problem. The problem is that a lot of you use it simply as a catch-all to shut people up.

Again no. It is your problem not 'the' problem. You don't like it, fine, good, but own it, say 'my problem'.
I don't happen to agree, as I reckon we would all be better off if the language police could fuck off and leave us to shutting a lot more people the fuck up by whatever means necessary.

Things that affect us all, affect us all. Even if you can't see it. And you ARE the language police. Every time you call someone a shill who is not actually shilling anything, that's policing. It's calling someone a wrongthinker. And if you don't know what that means then go read 1984. Actually read it, don't just google that term.
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June 28, 2018, 02:50:14 PM
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Alright look guys. This whole bcash shill thing needs to stop. It has become an automatic reaction for some of you. Kind of like how SJWs call everyone nazis.

There is a simple test for these things. If you can't say something positive about your opponents, then you are the ideologue. Let's have a group exercise this morning. Say something nice about bcashers.

Ok.. Ok.. if I HAVE to...  um...

"In the end they will have given me their money."

There.  You are right.  I feel better already!
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Words have meanings. I am not renumerated by others for my BCH advocacy. Accordingly, I am not a shill.


Language changes news at eleven. Have you not noticed, you silly old fossil?

Lotsa the young now use 'shill' to mean 'advocate' or 'adherent' and they use 'paid shill' to mean that insult that scares you so, the older-fashioned 'shill'.

I am a bitcoin shill. You are a shitcoin shill. Deal with it lol.
He is, however, profiting from doing so, which is an indirect form of shilling.

That's not the problem. The problem is that a lot of you use it simply as a catch-all to shut people up.

Again no. It is your problem not 'the' problem. You don't like it, fine, good, but own it, say 'my problem'.
I don't happen to agree, as I reckon we would all be better off if the language police could fuck off and leave us to shutting a lot more people the fuck up by whatever means necessary.

Things that affect us all, affect us all. Even if you can't see it. And you ARE the language police. Every time you call someone a shill who is not actually shilling anything, that's policing. It's calling someone a wrongthinker. And if you don't know what that means then go read 1984. Actually read it, don't just google that term.
Someone once said shilling doesn't mean anything. Oh wait that was you. You were right, it's lost almost all of its negative meaning nowadays.
And don't do that - go and ~do homework~ read such and such children's book. fuck that we all read that shit in kindergarten ffs, and at o-level and again when we grew up.
If it's all new to you , fine, but wake me up when you've read half what I have that is relevant to this. Oh wait you'll never catch up because of your cruel confirmation bias.
In the meantime, you're back on ignore. You can have the last words, as all you seem to want to do is get your own point across.
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June 28, 2018, 03:04:59 PM

Alright look guys. This whole bcash shill thing needs to stop. It has become an automatic reaction for some of you. Kind of like how SJWs call everyone nazis.

There is a simple test for these things. If you can't say something positive about your opponents, then you are the ideologue. Let's have a group exercise this morning. Say something nice about bcashers.

Ok.. Ok.. if I HAVE to...  um...

"In the end they will have given me their money."

There.  You are right.  I feel better already!
Two of you have made this point, and it is a good point. I have benefited from it as well. But, as technically correct as it is and as good as it feels, it is still just another form of dragging people down.

It's the difference between seeing a rich person and going "he must have stolen to get that much money" or going "I want to be rich too!".

One is destructive, the other constructive.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if bcash goes to zero forever. But this is not about them. It's about us. The more we focus on pulling others down, the more we become like them, the more likely it is we do things that hurt our own cause just to spite others.

So, really this time, positive things about bcashers.
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Words have meanings. I am not renumerated by others for my BCH advocacy. Accordingly, I am not a shill.


Language changes news at eleven. Have you not noticed, you silly old fossil?

Lotsa the young now use 'shill' to mean 'advocate' or 'adherent' and they use 'paid shill' to mean that insult that scares you so, the older-fashioned 'shill'.

I am a bitcoin shill. You are a shitcoin shill. Deal with it lol.
He is, however, profiting from doing so, which is an indirect form of shilling.

That's not the problem. The problem is that a lot of you use it simply as a catch-all to shut people up.

Again no. It is your problem not 'the' problem. You don't like it, fine, good, but own it, say 'my problem'.
I don't happen to agree, as I reckon we would all be better off if the language police could fuck off and leave us to shutting a lot more people the fuck up by whatever means necessary.

Things that affect us all, affect us all. Even if you can't see it. And you ARE the language police. Every time you call someone a shill who is not actually shilling anything, that's policing. It's calling someone a wrongthinker. And if you don't know what that means then go read 1984. Actually read it, don't just google that term.
Someone once said shilling doesn't mean anything. Oh wait that was you. You were right, it's lost almost all of its negative meaning nowadays.
And don't do that - go and ~do homework~ read such and such children's book. fuck that we all read that shit in kindergarten ffs, and at o-level and again when we grew up.
If it's all new to you , fine, but wake me up when you've read half what I have that is relevant to this. Oh wait you'll never catch up because of your cruel confirmation bias.
In the meantime, you're back on ignore. You can have the last words, as all you seem to want to do is get your own point across.
I said it doesn't mean anything beyond "shut up". Which is how you are using it, again, right here. And did you just call 1984 a childrens book with a straight face?

And for the record, no. What I want is to be wrong. So help me out. It's the only way to learn.
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June 28, 2018, 03:10:28 PM

may the Lord bless and keep Roger...far away from us
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If you haven't seen this before it's worth a watch.

Andreas explains why Big Blocks are not going to work. (watch time: 5-6mins, Petabyte Blocks & Streaming Money)

https://youtu.be/AecPrwqjbGw?t=11m39s
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June 28, 2018, 03:58:23 PM

If you haven't seen this before it's worth a watch.

Andreas explains why Big Blocks are not going to work. (watch time: 5-6mins, Petabyte Blocks & Streaming Money)

https://youtu.be/AecPrwqjbGw?t=11m39s

he is talking about how big block sizes would make bitcoin centralized (because he knows how Computing technologie would develop in the next 10 years ofc.)

Even if so: LN is by design centralized.


So whats that argument even about?
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